gps issues - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi There
I have an 02 XDA mini S, tomtom 5.21 a bt-74r GPS and a 2GB miniSD card.
I would like to get tomtom reading from the GPS device but alas it seems that it doesne like it.
I've tried a few methods but can't seem to get anything to work.
- pairing the devices, setting outbound port to device (com6) a
- set inbound to com7
-reinstalled things
- tried porting Com6 to com9 for tomtom with gpsgate
One thing i dont seem to have that others mention is a GPS section in the programs>settings>connections. Should i have this?
I've not actually installed any software for the GPS (none came with it (ebay cheapy...) ) do i need this?
Quite a few questions for my first post ;-)
Look forward to hearing any replies.
Thanks,
nozom

nozom said:
Hi There
I have an 02 XDA mini S, tomtom 5.21 a bt-74r GPS and a 2GB miniSD card.
I would like to get tomtom reading from the GPS device but alas it seems that it doesne like it.
I've tried a few methods but can't seem to get anything to work.
- pairing the devices, setting outbound port to device (com6) a
- set inbound to com7
-reinstalled things
- tried porting Com6 to com9 for tomtom with gpsgate
One thing i dont seem to have that others mention is a GPS section in the programs>settings>connections. Should i have this?
I've not actually installed any software for the GPS (none came with it (ebay cheapy...) ) do i need this?
Quite a few questions for my first post ;-)
Look forward to hearing any replies.
Thanks,
nozom
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Show GPS control pannel
HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
keep the Hide key but change the value to 0 and
delete the redirect value and
soft reset

rock on! i've got the GPS icon up, have to wait till i get home to try the GPS...
I got the GPS working last night without the Icon through a free little tool called visualGPS so it seems i have all the right parts, just needed this little switch to make tomtom work (hopefully!)
will let you know how i get on.
Cheers,
nozom

Right, got it working nicely
Basically it was the 5-5.21 upgrade that was needed as version 5 seemed to have a few issues picking up com ports 6-7.
glad i got it going, i thought the mini S might not have enough grunt but it seems fine.
Thanks for the help
nozom

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How employ other gps software with EMTAC BT antenna than TT

I have the tomtom navigator 3 and a EMTAC bluetooth antenna and this works perfectly
My problem is that when I'am trying to employ other softwares like VITONAVIGATOR, GPSDASH ,INTELLIGOLF, and so on I cannot configure the softwares to recognize my antenna.
Kindest regards
@[email protected]
hi,
solution is simple...
sorry to say it, but uninstall TomTom GPS or better the whole TomTom and use Mapsonic or Mapopolis instead of it...
i did the same.
buzz
emtac
Yes of course but i already bought tomtom, is there any other solution?
Simple, in Remove Programs uninstall TomTom~GPS.
This won't prevent TomTom from working but will stop TomTom locking the BT Com Port for its own exclusive use.
Plenty of discussion of this on our website, see our detailed explanation here.
@griffog
man, that's an excellent guide there... really good one...
;o) basically i meant the same... ;o)))
but, tomtom needs also far more processing power than other comparable programs, that means battery drains 30% faster, slower UI response, etc.
i know, battery is not any issue if you are driving, but i sometimes walk as well... )))
anyway, i don't like tomtom...
do you maybe know, is it possible to do crossborder routing in newer tomtom versions? like you can in mapopolis?
THANX
buzz
It looks like TomTom v5 will do cross border-routing yes. I have never experienced slow response to the UI except when using SD for map storage on iPAQ2210's. Using CF resolves this.
v5 also introduces walking and cycling modes which alter the route calculations. What PDA/GPS/memory Card Combo do you use?
darren it our work around doesnt work for xda2
griffog said:
It looks like TomTom v5 will do cross border-routing yes. I have never experienced slow response to the UI except when using SD for map storage on iPAQ2210's. Using CF resolves this.
v5 also introduces walking and cycling modes which alter the route calculations. What PDA/GPS/memory Card Combo do you use?
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hi griffog,
i'm using XDA2 + EMTAC BT + Mapsonic or Mapopolis.
Maps are on Transcend 64Mb SD card.
i'm very satisfied with this combination
buzz
just being playing with mine :lol: :shock: eerrrr right
first delete gps 2.07 or above then soft reset the device install pocket bluetooth tools delete the pairing with your receiver repair then ( during which you will be asked to create a serial port for this device select NO at this point then intall gps 2.06 available from www.pocketgpsworld.com this available in the downloads section under tomtom gps drivers.
download the cab file and copy it to the xda2 and then exicute it from file explorer select you reciver and away you go
well thats how i did it hopefully the above ramblings make sense :lol:
Alix, how will he configure the other gps software if no serial port has been assigned, I understand this works under tomtom as "bluetooth gps" but I am not so sure it will work with the software he mentions.unless you have tried it, if so how did you configure it.?
bluetooth tools asigns the comport to com7 not sure hows these thing work really it just worked for me i can run tomtom 3 and copoilt 5 on the same machine

TOMTOM 5 compatible??

considering getting tomtom5 for my mda compact.
anyone know whether its compatible, has anyone got it?
Should be. TomTom 3 and 4 worked fine.
By the way, Bakonl's release of TomTom 5 was just posted on alt.binaries.warez.pocketpc.gps, along with a few maps.
Benelux map only.. :x
TT5 does work
and not only benlux maps are posted. italy, france, germany, spain, uk are posted as well. rest will be posted as well i guess.
anyway, waiting for my legal TT5 to arrive (with the bt gps), woei =)
I can't get it working... I tried installing in the program files and in the storage card directories but it crashes at the end of the tutorial, just after that the "Welcome to TomTom Navigator" message appears in the map screen.
I can't see the map nor the GPS is able to connect (TomTom "3" Navigator Wireless).
I can't find any registry entry, I modified the currentmap.dat in order to point to /storage card/italia-map.
Anyone was able to reproduce my problem and to solve it?
Yeah, I noticed there are a few maps out. I'd like Scandinavia tho Seems like a buggy version too.. Crashes often.
Yeah... reeeeally buggy, I tried to check the post in the alt.warez.pocketpc.gps newsgroup for infos about bugs/problems etc. but I can't find it in my nssp server and using the web I'm not able to see the post (I can just see the header) so... I still can't use it :lol: ; maybe it could be a bad installer, I noticed that sometimes it won't install some cabs from the cd, or maybe it's just the italian map which is corrupt... who knows? 8)
I guess the release on alt.binaries is a preview or beta version.
The official release of Tomtom 5 will be end of June.
Im still waiting for Destinator PN on emule...
Where can i find the TomTom 5?
I have installed TomTom 5 to see if it works, I'm unable to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236). The port does not show up on the device list under Buzz WM2005.
Does anybody know how to change this?
Ikkuh
I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!
JesperR said:
Where can i find the TomTom 5?
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www.tomtom.com
Stefan
bruxelles5 said:
I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!
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I had the same problem.... go to the bluetooth com ports, change the GSM to use COM8.
Then start -> settings -> gps, on the first tab set com4 and on the second tab tom com8. The thrid tab should have the checkbox set.
Now reset your device.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
Now exit tomtom and reset your device.
Start tomtom and wait a while (can take a few minutes for it to find the GPS).
This worked for me (you need the resets in order to detect the com ports!!)
Ikkuh
@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!
dickr43 said:
@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!
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There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port, and attach it to the hardware GPS. If you do this and reset the device, the virtual GPS will show up in TomTom (in my case it did ;-) )
Ikkuh
I must admit dickr43 has got a point. Even though you are trying to be helpful, Ikkuh, it's a bit hard to understand.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
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There IS no GSM setup in TT. Most likely you mean GPS?
There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port
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Doesn't exist either. Must be some third party app you have installed...
dickr43,
Try removing your GPS pairing from the Magician. Go select the 'Bluetooth Setting' icon under Settings/System and make sure both the serial ports are activated. Note which COM port is 'Outbound', then re-pair with your GPS device. Start TT and in the GPS settings panel, you should get things running by selecting the COM port that was marked for Outbound.
Unless you are running some third party software with virtual BT COM ports, that should get you up and running. If you are, try each COM port one by one. Don't hurry through the ports, but give it time to connect. 5-10 seconds at least. Also make absolutely sure your GPS is within range and has a satellite fix, or you are wasting your time.
I cant use tomtom 5 as a route map
I just want to use it sometimes without the gps module is it possible. Because with the older version it was possible to select a GPS simulator.
THX :lol:
The "unofficial" versions of TomTom5 doing the rounds seem to have been taken from beta builds. I installed without any problems, but noticed a number of bugs (not recognising GPS, the program freezing, picking up wild GPS info, settings not sticking)... sometimes you'd think it was working, and you'd think you'd got it stable, but then they'd fall down.
I've tried 3 different versions doing the rounds right now and none of them are stable. I'll wait a month or so for a more finished release is available.
i got my hands on TT5 aswell, the program looks realy nice and lot improvement to TT3, but as mentioned above, it's not very stable, spontain exiting of TT5 is not cool when youre in the middle of no where.
my gps was recognized directley,
i just went to BT settings and checked Com5 and a messege apeared that i must bond with a compatible device, so i bonded with my GPS reciever and in the TT wizard i could chose Com5 and it connected right away, much easyer than TT3
regards.
Hi,
I am considering getting TOMTOM5 for my T-Mobile MDA Compact and would like to use this in my car. Does anyone know or can provide screen shots of what the display looks like? Is it easily readable while driving?
Thanks
Msuk

GPS DEVICE WONT BOND!

Hey there guys,
I got a problem, obviously
I have an Emtac III GPS unit: http://www.emtac.com/products/bluetooth/datasheet_btgpsiii.html
When I try to bond it, I get a yellow Q-mark. I get that even Before I try to add the password.
Secondly, Emtac does NOT have password, i.e. most BT devices have "0000" but this one hasnt got one.
In wm5.0 you HAVE to add a password in order to be able to click "Next" when adding a device. So I tried 0000, and also 0183 (which I got from a vendor).
None of them works, so my GPS device isnt bonded correctly and therefore I cant use it with Destinator GPS (like Tom Tom).
Does anyone know a fix/trick or anything that might help me??
NOTE: It worked great with my Magician before, no hassle there. So the GPS unit is fine.
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Not much I can add, only that the vendor passkey is the right one, as stated in the manual. Good luck. In most cases where a pairing process is not working the device driver is at fault, in other words not the right one for the device. Maybe a Win Mobile 5 issue, wrong driver (since it was working on your previous device). Suggest you check if you have the latest driver. Good luck.
Hi,
I'm also having the same problem with my Emtac III and my Jamin.
Again, it worked a treat with my old XDA2.
How did you go?
Did you find a fix?
Cheers,
Dev
Hi,
I have an i-Blue GPS and when I first bonded it, it had the same Question Mark as you. I then had to set up a new outgoing com port (next tab over) and then select the GPS device and pick a com port that was available - Com6 in my case.
I then edited my navigator.cfg file to force it to pick up Com6 as I couldn't pick it up from the list within navigator.
Have you gone through the steps of adding an outgoing port? This is a necessary step.
Hope it helps.
Craig.
Thanks Cags.
No I haven't set up an outgoing port, so I'll give it a whirl.
Destinator PN is the same as it only allows a certain number of comm ports to choose from.
Any got any ideas what file on Destinator PN I need to edit?
Cheers,
Deva
Hey thedeva,
I don't have any experience with Destinator sorry and I only had to change my cfg file because the options within Navigator wouldn't allow me to choose a com port that was allowable by the phone - I only had com 5 or 6. Maybe the port that your phone allows you to pick will be permitted in Destinator.
Sorry that doesn't help too much.
Craig.
montana said:
Hey there guys,
I got a problem, obviously
I have an Emtac III GPS unit: http://www.emtac.com/products/bluetooth/datasheet_btgpsiii.html
When I try to bond it, I get a yellow Q-mark. I get that even Before I try to add the password.
Secondly, Emtac does NOT have password, i.e. most BT devices have "0000" but this one hasnt got one.
In wm5.0 you HAVE to add a password in order to be able to click "Next" when adding a device. So I tried 0000, and also 0183 (which I got from a vendor).
None of them works, so my GPS device isnt bonded correctly and therefore I cant use it with Destinator GPS (like Tom Tom).
Does anyone know a fix/trick or anything that might help me??
NOTE: It worked great with my Magician before, no hassle there. So the GPS unit is fine.
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Set up a NEW OUTGOING COM PORT on com ports tab (in bluetooth settings) - COM6 with secure connection - Open Destinator and go to gps settings and either hit find gps either put COM6 - 57600 - NMEA manually and it should work fine.
IF YOU USE DESTINATOR 6 (NEWER THAN PN) AND YOU HAVE SWICHED EMTAC GPS FROM NMEA MODE TO SIRF WITH CRUX VIEW IT WILL NOT WORK. SWICH IT BACK AGAIN TO NMEA MODE AND IT WILL WORK FINE.
Hope this one will help you out.
Cheers.
Lucas0511 said:
Not much I can add, only that the vendor passkey is the right one, as stated in the manual. Good luck. In most cases where a pairing process is not working the device driver is at fault, in other words not the right one for the device. Maybe a Win Mobile 5 issue, wrong driver (since it was working on your previous device). Suggest you check if you have the latest driver. Good luck.
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Gps don't have password on device such as HP but on qtek (HTC) yes
the Emtac PW is different than other Gps (usually oooo )
Emtac PW is : 0183
try this you will see it work
TomTom and BT GPS
I believe TomTom requires the name of the GPS to end in "GPS"... try renaming it - or deleting and re-doing the partnership.
Charlie Grillo

MDA compact tomtom 5 cant see my GPS - please help

Have spent a long time trying to get my tomtom5 navigator working on my mda and now have it all going lovely - however I cant get my bluetooth reciever to be seen by tomtom. It is one of the BT-77 one that you see loads of on Ebay - did used to have it working with my old phone but not this one?
Any ideas - cant give up now!
Thanks
ROger
I have the same problem with an xdalls with a BT338 bluetooth gps.
I can get it to pair up. Tomtom5 does not see it though. Been thru all the settings that i can thing of.... i have the blue light flashing fast and then just logs off.
Paul
I have the BT-77 (also from ebay) and it works perfectly with the TomTom 5.21 software...
I had trouble with it initially too- it's to do with setting the right COM ports.
To get things working, I downloaded and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools:
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ Download version 1.0.1.2
Delete any existing pair that you may have with the GPS receiver...
Re-pair the device with the above software installed, and now you will get an iconic menu, use the serial port option and select an available COM port. Complete pairing procedure as per on screen instruction.
Now start up TomTom and go to GPS options in preferences- select 'other bluetooth device' and now you should see the something called 'BT on COMx' x being the port you assigned earlier of course. Complete configuration.
Wait for the receiver to get a fix and you should be ready to go.
I've used the Pocket Bluetooth Tools many times on different variants of the Magician and has work everytime.
Hi
thanks for the info - but still nothing
cant cope anymore
will buy a whole new system i think!
Thanks anyway
Roger
HELLO!
Well at last it works - not really sure why?
But I dont care it works!
thanks for the help
Roger
Hi!
Just registered to try and find out how to get my MDA II working with a bluetooth GPS and I find this thread. Thank you for the link to the bluetooth tools it seems to have worked a treat.
Cool. Glad it is working for you guys.
The software also works well with using Bluetooth and ActiveSync.

TYTN TomTom Bluetooth GPS

Got my htc tytn loaded totom 5 onto it and guess what bluetooth gps doesn't work with it! Cannot get correct comm port .According to HTC TomTom know about this. Just hoping somebody already has a fix for this?
Had no problems pairing my BT Slim GPS with my Vario II, TomTom runs fine.
What GPS receiver you using ?
works fine on my xda trion as well.......im using tom tom 5.21 with BT-338 gps receiver.......im also using com port 0......you basically have to pair it and then add outgoing port as com port 0.....and during the installation on tom tom make sure you choose com port 0......that worked for me anyways....hope that helps.
Bluetooth GPS HTC TYTN
Thanks guys have re-installed tomtom and now it comes up with com prt 0.Probably didn't install correctly first time .Now up and running .Fantastic!!!!
I could cry
Hi everyone - I am having a similar problem
I have a new GPS receiver and have established a bluetooth partnership and done the outgoing port to com0 which is the default.
Tom Tom is installed and when I try and configure it I am not seeing all the options shown on the website. It just says no gps detected or something similar. I am sure its something simple.
Can anyone help please?
mobilecat said:
Hi everyone - I am having a similar problem
I have a new GPS receiver and have established a bluetooth partnership and done the outgoing port to com0 which is the default.
Tom Tom is installed and when I try and configure it I am not seeing all the options shown on the website. It just says no gps detected or something similar. I am sure its something simple.
Can anyone help please?
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There's a program CreatePorts that is floating around (you'll have to do a search) that allows TomTom to see additional com ports in the Bluetooth GPS setup. I used this same program on my Samsung i730, and now on the 8525.
You just paid your GPS with the PPC, create the outbound port (in my case I used com 2), run CreatePorts, and then go in to TomTom GPS setup.
Once you get it set up, you don't have to run the app anymore, and TomTom works great
OUCH
dew.man said:
There's a program CreatePorts that is floating around (you'll have to do a search) that allows TomTom to see additional com ports in the Bluetooth GPS setup. I used this same program on my Samsung i730, and now on the 8525.
You just paid your GPS with the PPC, create the outbound port (in my case I used com 2), run CreatePorts, and then go in to TomTom GPS setup.
Once you get it set up, you don't have to run the app anymore, and TomTom works great
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I tried running this but i can still only assign certain points from my bluetooth manager and dont have these displayed on the tomtom menu.
When you go into the GPS Status settings on Tomtom and tap configure, have you tried looking to see which com ports it lists and then going back to the bluetooth settings and doing trial and error to allocate any of those port numbers as an outgoing port for your GPS unit?
For my genuine Tomtom GPS unit, I did not even have to set up a port, I just had to pair the device but when I used a friends alternative brand of GPS unit for a short while, I was only able to get that one working under Com port 4. I can't quite remember but it may even have been a case that Com 4 only became visible in the Tomtom GPS configure menu after I had allocated it as an outgoing port for the GPS device (sorry, it is a while back so I can't quite remember the order in which I set it up)
Hope you get it sorted
arghh
I a so annoyed. I did this and had no luck. Later on I did something and got the option for port 2 and used it and it was great. I had to do a soft reset for something else and I cant do it again. tried everything.
MMMM
Happy yet frustrated
I have deleted create ports from my device as it only works once. I have reset my device. I reinstalled createports and extracted the file. I then saw port 2 straight away - the one that had been missing in tomtom.
The only problem is that if I do a soft reset I have to do that again!
It is very frustrating trying to get some of these things working. Have you thought about upgrading to Tomtom 6? you may find you have less problems getting the pairing and ports working right.
Failing that, I am sure you will be able to get it working again, just keep trying all the com ports one by one until you find one that appears in the Tomtom configuration. Like I said, on my XDA Vario II (Hermes) I managed to get it working on Com 4 and when I had an XDA Mini S (Wizard) I seem to remember that it was either Com 6 or Com 7 which worked on that one.
You might want to check the bluetooth settings for security and beam as well. Try turning security off (ie. passkey required off) and make sure the beam setting is ticked to receive all incoming beams.
I will keep my fingers crossed for you
download co-pilot for uk
Dashley said:
Got my htc tytn loaded totom 5 onto it and guess what bluetooth gps doesn't work with it! Cannot get correct comm port .According to HTC TomTom know about this. Just hoping somebody already has a fix for this?
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Any one got the co-pilot softwear to insallate for MDA VARIO 2.
download co-pilot softwear for UK.
Any one got the co-pilot softwear to insallate for MDA VARIO 2.
another thread
I have just seen another thread about XDA with a patch for this that seems to work. Can someone merge the threads?
Createports
Can anyone point me in the right direction to find this program. I think that it is hidden on the web somewhere near the holy grail.
Help with TT6 + TYTN + Royaltek 2110 please
I have a TYTN and a GPS Royaltek 2110. I have position com0 and other programs GPS work correctly. The problem is that the TT6 always shows he himself message “GPS nonfound”, although always I can say to him that this in the COM0 but does not find satellite.
That I can do? I put the TT5
somebody it has the CreatePorts program and it can put it?
Thanks
try this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288865
Pairing TOMTOM 6 with Bluetooth GPS
For all of you that are having problems pairing your GPS Bluetooth receiver with your Hermes see the instruction set below:
#Hermes can not be in flight Mode#
1st: Run BTHTools1100.exe
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2nd:
Pair them in Bluetooth Manager
Set:
Holux (outgoing port com4)
Incoming Port (com8)
no security
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3rd:
In settings >> Connections >> GPS
Programs set GPS program port to Com 8
Hardware set GPS hardware port to Com 4
baud rate 4800
If GPS program is not seen in settings\Connections
Use resco registry or other program and:
Go to Hkey_local_Machine\ControlPanel\GPS settings\ creat (make new) "Group" with Dword data =2
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In TomTom chose:
Bluetooth GPS
Com4
should be working Now
Pairing TOMTOM 6 with Bluetooth GPS (easy) - Kaiser
First after reading the posts I thought I had to reinstall Tom Tom or install another software. Luckily, I paused and read the message when I was about to configure my other bluetooth receiver. It said, first you must establish your bluetooth connection. Well, I lied coz I did try to go on and couldnt find COM 0 or whatever you guys have said.
But that's what I did, eventually. Paired the device as BT GPS, check the serial connection (not sure if secure connection needs to be checked but I left it unchecked to find out later). After that go to com port tab, and click add new port ie selected COM0.
Then go back to TT6 (restarted in my case), and to other bluetooth gps receiver then found COM 0 in there. Voila!!
Chose COM0, but still got no gps device message. Waited for about 2 mins while reading further into the posts and now my TT6 is working.
You could call that strike of luck I dont really care but yeah.. saving some batt power on my kaiser for the bank holiday;s trip. Have a great one everyone!!
P/s: Mine is O2 stellar on Dutty's great work.
Com 4 is the only one that works with Schaps 3.54

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