BT voice dial while in standby - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Voice dialing from bluetooth works fine while my K-Jam is on, but when it goes into standby mode it doesnt work. I press the button on the headset and I get the headset beep indicating it has connected, but I never hear the speed dail beep. If I bring the K-Jam out of standby mode, I can see the speed dial program is on teh screen, but it seems stuck. Maybe any ideas?
Thanks, John

All Wizards suffer from this; currently no known way around it, hopefully a update will cure this issue or someone will find a way.

A little more digging and I have seen where others have tried to find a work around. Here is what I am doing for now. I am turning off automatic standby and using the "device lock" to keep buttons from accidentally being pushed instead of putting it in standby by pushing the power button. I am not sure what the battery usage will be now, but I will test it for awhile and see. By the way, does anyone know how I can assign one of the hard buttons to device lock? Is there an exe somewhere or can someone point me to a registry entry for this?
Thanks

haven't found keylock yet, but found "power off"
may create a short cut in programs?

My Qtek does not have this problem.
I'm using voicedial from my bluetooth headset. It works perfect even when the phone is in standby mode! It wakes up and makes the call perfectly!! I have a Qtek 9100 and a SonyEricsson HBH-662.

same here with my dopod 838 and HBH-662 it seems to work nicely even if the device is in standby. Is this because of the headset?
::adit

No problem here either...
Dutch MDA Vario + HBH-662 headset - works like a charm standby or not.
By the way... why bother installing MS Voice when the Wizard comes with it's own voice dialing utility?

lisa1982 said:
By the way... why bother installing MS Voice when the Wizard comes with it's own voice dialing utility?
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Probably because MS Voice Command is based on speaker independent recognition. So, you don't record a voice tag for the few contacts you dial most often, you just say 'call <contact> at|on mobile|home|work' and it will try and recognise the contact from your entire list.
Also pretty cool for casually pressing the button and asking 'what appointments do I have today' and having the details and locations read out to you...
Dox

lisa1982
OEM voicedial does not allow you to dial by digits 5-5-5-1-2-3-4 etc OEM voice dial is limited to voice tags MS Voice Command allows you to dial any contact in you're list also the ability of MS VC to announce upcoming appointments etc.
There are more these are only a few examples.

Can you guys that are able to make BT calls from standbye mode post what rom etc you have installed?
Thanks, John

Question for all you guys with the SE HBH-662 headsets. Does the caller ID on the Headset work? Meaning when you get an incoming call does it scroll the phone number only or does it display the name of the contact (if you have them in your contacts)? And how is the battery life of the headset ? I've got a Motorola HS850 which I love but I'm having the same problem with voice dialling from Standby and am willing to buy another headset if it works.
Thanks.

Hi firas,
Only the number is displayed in a scrolling fashion and it has a good battery life. Highly recommended

I have the HBH-600 but dont think it would work any different with another headset. My K-Jam receives the signal, and beeps, but seems to get stuck after that. When I take it out of standbye after trying it, I see the voice app is open, but seems to be stuck. If another headset will fix the problem, I would gladly buy it.
John

techspy
My HBH-660 does the same thing as your's I may go ahead and get the HBH-662 and try it thogh, if it will fix the issue that would be great.

marka2k said:
All Wizards suffer from this; currently no known way around it, hopefully a update will cure this issue or someone will find a way.
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One method that does work is to use the "redial" function on your headset. On my HS850 it's press and hold the call button. The Wizard _will_ wake up and start dialling your last used number. Just tap the headset button again to cancel the call, and you're ready to use Voicedail.

Initiating a redial then cancelling it to get the phone to wake up is a work around but not a fix. I hope they resolve this or if the HBH-662 does work I wonder what the difference is?

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Initiating a redial then cancelling it to get the phone to wake up is a work around but not a fix.
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Thanks for your constructive input and for stating the obvious :roll: I was simply correcting your statement that there is "currently no known way around it" which is not true. All it takes is two extra button presses.

Tried my new Wizard last night with my old Plantronics M3000 bluethooth headset, Device was in stanby and when i pressed the button on the headst it woke up and voice dailed no problems.
I am using the standard T- Mobile roms with the MDA Vario as it is only a day old.
Hope this helps

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Headset talk button

I can use the talk button to answer incoming calls on headset. Anybody knows a way to use that button for voice calling etc?
Hello
Just been browsing and I notice you have asked the same question as me, I did not notice it before as I searched for handsfree.
Anyway, what model do you have? I am SPV M600, I only noticed this problem today as I have just installed MP3's onto my SD card. While I had the headphones on I tried handsfree and noticed I could not activate voice dial with the button although I could answer and close calls.
On all of my old phones, I just pressed the button, it activated voice dial and I called the number, but not this phone.
I have set up voice dial on the phone, voice tagged contacts, and it is working great, none are failing to be recognised.
Have you managed to sort out the problem yet?
I called my phone supplier they could not help as they do not have a technical dept, and Orange just wont answer the phone, customer service is dreadful lately.
Dodgy headset ??
I got my SPV M600 today and headset works fine, and the use headset selection under phone settings is greyed out as well
Sorry I replied to the wrong thread. I dont know how to get the voice dial on the headset.
Spenner said:
Dodgy headset ??
I got my SPV M600 today and headset works fine, and the use headset selection under phone settings is greyed out as well
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Hi Spenner.
When you say your headset works, does it activate the voice dial software when the silver button is pressed or does it just answer and close calls?
Voice Dial
I think it can be solved with a registry modification. Unfortunately I cannot solve the problem myself. I tried all the properities bu I couldnt find any related one.
My phone is O2 XDA and just like you I only can answer and hang up calls by headset button.
i was asking about how to change behaviour of this button, hovewer nobydy knows
I would like to push it 1,2,3 times or push & hold and assign different actions for different pushes
it all used to work beautifully on my Orange M600. Then I upgraded to the Dopod ROm and the voice speed dialler i gone.
Bloody annoying! Can't work out how to get it back...

HELP PLEASE...Your supplied handfree working? Mine is NOT.

Hello all
Can you tell me is your supplied handfree working?
I just installed some mp3's onto a new SD card, while I had the headphones on I thought I would try handsfree, it does not work.
The silver button you press to activate voice dial or answer calls does nothing, and I cannot speak into the microphone, I can only hear calls.
I have voice tabbed my contacts, voice dialing works great on the phone but not the headset. Inside the phone, the phone menu has 'Turn Hands-free On', this is greyed out. Has this feature been removed from the phone?
The phone is Orange SPV M600
Thanks
i find the button on the headset useless. 9 times out of ten it does nothing, then suddently it will end a call or open the voice prompt. I gave up and put it down to a windowsism.
Well, mine can only answer calls, it will not start voice dial and will not open the phone app. No problems with sound or mic.
I use Motorola H350 anyway so it doesn't really bother me.
Thanks
From a lot of Googling I have found nothing official even mentioning the use of the handsfree they advertise and supply. However, it would appear that this phone is only capable of answering and closing calls with handsfree, so not truly handsfree.
You still have to take out your nice new, expensive toy in order to make a call, clearly advertising it to potential muggers. Where I live that is just about everyone you see.
Does seem strange though that cheap old Nokias can do this, but a nice new computerised phone can not. Then again it is Microsoft. I have only had it a week, but already I have found that WM5 is not very backward compatible with software. There are issues with bluetooth headsets (which is why I cancelled an order), and in a week just like old ME, I have lost count of the number Soft Resets that I have had to perform.
I find the most useless feature is the voice dial, you have to open, start, programs, voicedial to make a call or use it. Why not just run the app manually rather than trust voicedial to guess what your after.
Sorry guys but I am not sure what the fuss is about.
I had my phone for a month before getting the BT headset (no problems there by the way) so I assigned the voice speed dial to the comm manager button. Easy and useful and you have the comm manager icon in the today tray so the button is not a major loss.
Now that I have the H350 which is more comfortable than the wired hands-free any way, everything works smoothly but this is with the i-mate ROM. Perhaps your BT troubles are from the Orange ROM?
voice speed used to work.....
I have an H500 headset which used to work splendidly on my Orange M600. The silver button would launch voice dialling and pick up and end calls.
however I upgraded to the Dopod ROm and now it does bugger all! I can hear the calls, but the headset will not launch voice dialling, and all options are greyed out.
Question is, is this feature in the main ROm or the extended part....I have acopy of the Orane extended ROm but can't see anything that looks like the right cab file.
I did not let Dopod customisations run after upgrading, and I really don't want to do a hard reset again!
If anyone knows which file you need to install voice speed dialling I'd be grateful!
Re: voice speed used to work.....
sickboy555 said:
I have an H500 headset which used to work splendidly on my Orange M600. The silver button would launch voice dialling and pick up and end calls.
however I upgraded to the Dopod ROm and now it does bugger all! I can hear the calls, but the headset will not launch voice dialling, and all options are greyed out.
Question is, is this feature in the main ROm or the extended part....I have acopy of the Orane extended ROm but can't see anything that looks like the right cab file.
I did not let Dopod customisations run after upgrading, and I really don't want to do a hard reset again!
If anyone knows which file you need to install voice speed dialling I'd be grateful!
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The wired headset does not work fully, it can only be used to answer or close calls, it will not initiate voice dialing. I bought a cheap bluetooth headset off of ebay, it paired straight away and initiates voice dialing. I have never been able to get my headet to work, I now just plug it in if I want to play music.
I am not sure about Dopod and Orange ROMs, but in i-mate ROM the speed dial app it self (cyberon voice speed dial) is in the extended ROM while it's settings applet is in ROM.
As for the part that is responsible for answering / ending calls that should be in ROM with any version.
the H500 IS a bluetooth headset- it's a Motorola and wasn't cheap!
It used to work as I say, then I went to the Dopod ROM and now there is no voice speed dialing at all.
I can't seem to find the cyberon cab files anywhere....
sickboy555 said:
the H500 IS a bluetooth headset- it's a Motorola and wasn't cheap!
It used to work as I say, then I went to the Dopod ROM and now there is no voice speed dialing at all.
I can't seem to find the cyberon cab files anywhere....
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Sorry I read too quickly, I originally started this post before I got bluetooth as I could not get the wired set to work.
Hi
From what I had read in the past when I was having problems with my headset, Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial software is embedded in the OS it does not come as a cutomisation. I have just brought mine up and it simply says Cyberon Voice Speed Dial Setting Version 1.1 Build 51212. Copyright (c) 2005 Cyberon Corporation. There is nothing there related to Orange, and I can not find it in any of the Orange Extended ROM CABS.
I guess Microsoft did a deal with them to install it in the Phone Edition of WM5.

Bluetooth Voice Activation

I am using a Plantronics 510 BT headset, but i can't figure out how to get the voice activation working.
I beginning to think that it is not supported, read the manual and afaik it doesn't mention the subject at all.
Has anyone got it working yet?
Tiemen said:
I am using a Plantronics 510 BT headset, but i can't figure out how to get the voice activation working.
I beginning to think that it is not supported, read the manual and afaik it doesn't mention the subject at all.
Has anyone got it working yet?
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I am not sure I understand your question but I use a SonyEricsson stereo BT headset and when I press the "answer" button on the headset (when phone is not ringing) the "Voice Speed Dial" program comes up.
It does the same with all my jabra
Yes the voice dial function to dial numbers and startup programs is what I meant.
I got it working now
Apparently I have to hold down the button for a second or two to make it work.
Next time I should try a little harder to figure it
anonimo said:
I am not sure I understand your question but I use a SonyEricsson stereo BT headset and when I press the "answer" button on the headset (when phone is not ringing) the "Voice Speed Dial" program comes up.
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Hi,
I've got a SE BT HBH-660 and when I push the asnwer button, I4ve got the "beep beep" in the speaker telling me that the Headset try to connect to the phone, but for some reason the Phone does not wake-up each time.
To make the voice dial working I need to ON/OFF the BT stack on the phone side.
When my SE BT headset is on and I make a phone call, not all the time the phone connect to the headset.
Did someone figure out the same behaviour ?
If yes how does it solve this ?

Parrot carkit mute problem

Dear all,
I have a Parrot CK3100 carkit and I am running Bepe's 0.61 WWE and Radio 1.58.25.14.
BT pairing and sync is (more os less) seamless but I found that when I initiate the call with the phone's green button the call goes through the phone's loudspeaker. When I initiate the call with either by clicking on the contact's picture or action button on the name or voice dialing by Parrot everything works fine.
I know that I can turn the Parrot carkit's loudspeaker on by clicking menu->"turn headset on" but it is so dangerous to chek it and activate it while driving.
Is this the expected behaviour? Is this a Radio stack related problem? Anything I could do about making the external speakers work all the time the headset profile is activated? Anyway, it used to work as I expected with the original ROM.
Thanks, Z
zoltansz said:
Is this the expected behaviour?
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Yes, instead of pushing green button on phone use the call button on Parrot and everything works fine.
Sascha
You mean I've got to search for the contact on the phone or on the Parrot? Because I prefer the phone's T9 dialer. Would it work if I chose the contact on the phone and pressed the green button on Parrot? Will play with that tomorrow.
And once we're talking about Parrots...
I have 1015 contacts to sync. BT sync is okay (I use "Windows CE" when pairing), but quite a few of my numbers do not go to the carkit. (I don't have to tell there are my mom, sister, kids etc. All my customers are on the carkit.) Can I do anything about that? I can send them one by one, but OBEX is not working according to my experiences. It says it was okay, but I cannot find the contact afterwards.
Any idea is highly appreciated. Thanks
Get MS Voice Command, and never browse your phone book again. Trust me its a well worthwhile investment, I can't think of a single person that bought it and regretted it.
Look at this, perhaps it can help.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
robjo
zoltansz said:
Would it work if I chose the contact on the phone and pressed the green button on Parrot?
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Yes, that is precisely what I meant.
sonus said:
Get MS Voice Command, and never browse your phone book again.
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Doesn't work for me since my car apparently is too noisy (at least while running).
Sascha
As far as the noise is concerned, the trick is that you have to record the names while driving so that noise would be on the records as well. Fortunately, I have a Civic and that makes perfect background noise for this operation
Anyway, I have VC enabled but I am using only to narrate my upcoming appointments while headset profile is on and the calendar is free. Do not use that for dialing or navigating the shell.
zoltansz said:
the trick is that you have to record the names while driving so that noise would be on the records as well
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Since when do you have to record names in order to use MS voice command?
It's a speech recognition software which is user independant.
Sascha
Hi, as I said, I do not use VC for dialing. I use Parrot for that and I am basically very satisfied with that. The only problem is that, for some peculiar reason, not all my contacts gets sync-ed there.

Voice Command Problem With AT&T Tilt2

I have a stock Tilt2 from AT&T. MS Voice Command v1.6.21849 came with it, but has a problem. When trying to call a contact, or dial a number, it can't actually initiate the call. it shows the contact briefly, and that's it. If you tell it to show the contact, no problem. But trying to call a contact, or dial a number, won't work. I have both "Contacts" and "Phone" enabled in settings. I have searched the site here for hours & been unable to find anyting. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Edited to add: The problem only arises when using a bluetooth Headset. Thanks in advance again!
Same Problem
I have noticed the same problem. I did discover if I had the phone in my hand (outside the case or pocket) that it worked. I wonder if the mic input transfers back to the handset after the initial inquiry (i.e first beep, "call contact x" second beep, voice input transfers to handset microphone.)
Mine doesn't care in hand or not. VC is getting the command just fine, it just can't initiate dialing? When BT is NOT connected: Hold the send key, listen for the tone, speak command, verify correct contact, contact briefly shows on screen, phone dials number. When BT IS connected: push the headset button OR hold the send key, listen for the tone, speak command, verify correct contact, contact briefly shows on screen, there's a dull tone and that's the end. So VC is getting the information because it pulls up the right contact. It just can't initiate dialing.
Nakel said:
Mine doesn't care in hand or not. VC is getting the command just fine, it just can't initiate dialing? When BT is NOT connected: Hold the send key, listen for the tone, speak command, verify correct contact, contact briefly shows on screen, phone dials number. When BT IS connected: push the headset button OR hold the send key, listen for the tone, speak command, verify correct contact, contact briefly shows on screen, there's a dull tone and that's the end. So VC is getting the information because it pulls up the right contact. It just can't initiate dialing.
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Hmm. I just tried it on my stock ROM ATT Tilt 2 and it works ok. However, I need to get the timing just right. If I confirm the contact too soon, nothing happens. If I wait 1-2 seconds before confirming, it works. Stupid Widcom Bluetooth stack.
GermanGuy said:
Hmm. I just tried it on my stock ROM ATT Tilt 2 and it works ok. However, I need to get the timing just right. If I confirm the contact too soon, nothing happens. If I wait 1-2 seconds before confirming, it works. Stupid Widcom Bluetooth stack.
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That works for me too. Thanks! Weird though, works only if I initiate the call from the headset. If I initiate the voice dialing from the send key, while a BT headset is attached, still doesn't work...
Incoming caller announce
Does incoming call ounce work for you on the tilt 2? My announces over the speaker phone regardless of my settings.
GermanGuy said:
Hmm. I just tried it on my stock ROM ATT Tilt 2 and it works ok. However, I need to get the timing just right. If I confirm the contact too soon, nothing happens. If I wait 1-2 seconds before confirming, it works. Stupid Widcom Bluetooth stack.
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thanks for the tip. i was ready to give up on vc. waiting is such a simple solution. appreciate the help.
GermanGuy said:
Hmm. I just tried it on my stock ROM ATT Tilt 2 and it works ok. However, I need to get the timing just right. If I confirm the contact too soon, nothing happens. If I wait 1-2 seconds before confirming, it works. Stupid Widcom Bluetooth stack.
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That worked for may also, thank you.
Annouce works on held call
Hey guys,
I noticed today while i was on a call, another call came in and the voice command announced the call in my bt as it was suppose to.
I guess this goes back to the timing issue that was discussed on another thread about microsoft needing to update the vc software to work with these new BT stacks.
Anybody had any luck or can post bt headsets that actually work.
I upgraded from a Fuze which worked great with my headset not i have nothing working with the tilt 2
Please advise
andersondb1 said:
Hey guys,
I noticed today while i was on a call, another call came in and the voice command announced the call in my bt as it was suppose to.
I guess this goes back to the timing issue that was discussed on another thread about microsoft needing to update the vc software to work with these new BT stacks.
Anybody had any luck or can post bt headsets that actually work.
I upgraded from a Fuze which worked great with my headset not i have nothing working with the tilt 2
Please advise
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I have a Blue Ant Q1 that works very good with the tilt 2 & VC. It will read my text, e-mails, & in-coming calls all over the BT. Sometimes the messages & e-mails will flop back & forth over blue tooth & speakerphone. Plus, I can listen to my music on the Q1 as well.
I have the BlueAnt Q1 headset also and contrary to what was said eariler it does not announce incoming through the Tilt 2 Voice Commander software. This headset has its on software the will announce incoming phone number only but is not able to link that number to a name in your contacts.
Its a very neat headset as everything is done by voice commands. But like all the other headsets talked here it will announce everything else (Emails, appointments, test messages, etc) but incoming caller information through VC.
you ever get the feeling the left hand (microsoft)doesn't know what the right hand (bluetooth manufacturers) is doing?
The awkward voice command delay
GermanGuy said:
Hmm. I just tried it on my stock ROM ATT Tilt 2 and it works ok. However, I need to get the timing just right. If I confirm the contact too soon, nothing happens. If I wait 1-2 seconds before confirming, it works. Stupid Widcom Bluetooth stack.
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I agree completely. On my original tilt, you said "yes" right after the voice command confirmation prompt. With the Tilt 2 I need to wait about an awkward pause longer otherwise I get a call disconnected beep in the handset and the call does not go through. If anyone finds a registry value or other fix for this, I'd be greatly appreciative!
The text message announcements DO NOT WORK, but the email announcements DO! what's up with that?! can anyone explain this one to me? i even tried adding registry edits with no luck. i've tried several ideas and nothing seems to work. i believe there is a way to get it to work, as it does announce the emails as they come in, but i can't figure it out.
These issues are all because of the new Bluetooth Stack in Windows Mobile 6.5. MSVC is old and written for the old MS BT Stack. It will not be updated, so unfortunately what you get is what you get.
I have the same problem; incoming calls are announced just fine but text messages are not read to me as with my WinMo 6.1 Tilt. I really wish there was a fix for this!

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