JASJAR or XDA EXEC? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

hey guys which should i get cant decide, i dont like the name jasjar but i like the colour.
also is there a way of swapping between 3G and GPRS if i want to reguardless of whether your in a 3G area or not because i get very cheep gprs and might wanna use it even if im in a 3G area. thanks
Neckarb

I had the same dilema and went with the jas jar for several reasons.
1) no o2 commitment (they are, in my personal experince, rubbish in so many ways)
2) cool grey case.
3) imate release rom updates on a regular basis, o2 release one every four thousand years, if your lucky.
4) the jas jar was available sooner
I think you'll find that youll pay the same rate per mb regardless of whether you are using the umts (3g) or edge(2.5g/gprs) networks. you're just liable to use it up faster on umts becaue of the higher data rate! you can force it not to use umts if you want tho'.

Maybe neckarb is on one of the old BT Cellent Genie tariffs where GPRS may cost almost nothing?

Maybe neckarb is on one of the old BT Cellent Genie tariffs where GPRS may cost almost nothing?
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that i be. and so am interested on o2 for that sole reason, the other problem im having is i wanna pay abouy £400-£500 (either sim free) or preferable including a 12month contract but cannot find the jasjar for that price even though i found the exec for it so again aaah!

neckarb said:
hey guys which should i get cant decide, i dont like the name jasjar but i like the colour.
also is there a way of swapping between 3G and GPRS if i want to reguardless of whether your in a 3G area or not because i get very cheep gprs and might wanna use it even if im in a 3G area. thanks
Neckarb
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Yes you can force the Universal into GSM mode under settings/phone/Band...There you select GSM instead of 'Auto' under 'Select your network'. Apparently it saves you loads of battery power too as UMTS is power hungry.
Regards

cheers for that mate, can the xda exec be reflashed with an imate rom as im a member of club imate and would love to get the rom updates.

asking for problems
From what i have read from other o2 devices with Imate roms, its is problematic.
get an universal rom first, that way if the imate rom gives your grief, the change back is less trouble.
Please post your findings, it would be interesting.

Can anyone else clarify this? I was intending to get the O2 XDA Exec, but with such a new device and new OS, it's bound to need a ROM upgrade or two. I was looking on the O2 site for ROM upgrades to any of their other XDA devices but couldn't find any which is not a good sign.
My understanding is that i-mate ROM updates will not work on the O2 XDA Exec, in which case I reckon the money saved on an Exec against a Jasjar will not be worth it.

They should be the same hardware, so you could get the slick looking XDA Exec and put the imate ROM on.

it would be great if i could, becuase i found the xda exec £150 cheeper than the jasjar but i love my imate rom updates, has anyone sucsessfully flashed the xda exec or mda pro with the imate jasjar roms?

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Xda IIi - XDA IIs or MDA? Please help

Hi there,
I need some urgent advise:
I have an XDA II from O2 and I now can get a new device from O2 as contract upgrade.
The options are XDAIIs or XDAIIi, alternatively I can dump O2 and make a contract with Tmobile for the MDA(compact), this last option is a bit of a pain though, because most people I call have O2 and also my international calls are cheaper with O2.
I don't use XDA very much as you do and hardly mess up with sw or upgrades. I mainly use it to call, take pictures/videos, watch movies, internet and for remembering appointments...
If it is fast enough I'd like to use it (via wi-fi) to surf the net with my laptop(as I don't have a landline), but I don't know if this is possible...
Now, question is: which one do you suggest me to get? I have to get it by the 30th of july...
Thanks guys!
Gio
Well the MDA compact doesn't have wifi so that might help your descision...
and also would depend on if you would use the keyboard on s
personaly i think that GPRS is way too slow for my temperament
if i wanted to surf from a laptop i would get a 3g phone like the htc universal of cause that will not be out by 30th
thanks.
I don't think I'd use the keyboard as it's probably easier to use the on screen one, also the keyboard feels like it's a bit loose and I'm afraid it might open on its own.
Only good thing I see on the IIs is the quadband that the other doesn't have...

Aftermath of upgrading from DOPOD 900 to the new 02 EXEC ROM

Dear All,
First of all i wish to thank everyone here for their posts. After carefully reading what you guys have been discussing, I decided to give it a try and had NO problems at all upgrading the ROM. I do have one question though, do any of you guys here have any idea on how to configure 3G and MMS for Maxis here in malaysia.
regards
Go to connection setting. Add a new modem connection, simply put in anything for name and select Cellular line for GPRS, 3G. Enter 'unet' for Access point, 'maxis' for Username and finally 'wap' for password.
To setup the MMS:-
Go to MMS, then MMS configuration. Select the servers tab. Click new then
key in Maxis for Servername, Gateway is 202.75.133.49, Port no. is 8080, Server address is http://172.16.74.100:10021/mmsc, Select the 3G connection that you just created in the upper step. Select 100K for size and finally WAP2.0. Hope this help.
Re: Aftermath of upgrading from DOPOD 900 to the new 02 EXEC
ziadasmat77 said:
Dear All,
First of all i wish to thank everyone here for their posts. After carefully reading what you guys have been discussing, I decided to give it a try and had NO problems at all upgrading the ROM. I do have one question though, do any of you guys here have any idea on how to configure 3G and MMS for Maxis here in malaysia.
regards
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Dear ziadasmat77,
Was there any particular reason why you upgrade your DOPOD 900 to the new O2 EXEC ROM? Sorry for asking this as I'm quite new to DOPOD 900.
Thanking you in advance your for kind reply.
Upgrading
I am a big fan of o2, i was very disappointed when o2 exec was not going to be released in malaysia, so now at least my device performs better and looks cool with the O2 Active
I don't think upgrading to Exec is a wise choice cause by comparing the Dopod900's rom to exec, the different is so minute, in fact it make me wonder if O2 has realized their own mistake and decides to release the original rom(this new release) instead of their problematic customized version.
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ziadasmat77 said:
I am a big fan of o2, i was very disappointed when o2 exec was not going to be released in malaysia, so now at least my device performs better and looks cool with the O2 Active
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Thank you for your reply. I thought it was meant for performance enhancement. In that case I'll stick to the original ROM.
Anyone having problem with their 3G, especially in Penang? I'm using Maxis3G unlimited package. Previous it worked flawlessly but since yesterday, it stop to work with a message like 'cannot locate the site' or 'cannot find the DNS'.
The funny thing is when there is only a GPRS signal, i can surf properly, but once i enter a 3G coverage zone(the icon switch to show 'U'), it stop working and prompt me the above message again.
So are there a lot of people using the dopod 900 in M'sia?
My uncle told me it was about 3888 at the last PC Fair. Don't think too many people will be buying it at that price.
Modem_man,
Im one of those suckers, Could not help it, But i also bought a QTEK 9100 for my wife from singapore, saved 400 RM when compared to DOPOD838
Honestly IHMO, Dopod 900 will get the latest and better rom faster than the rest due to that Dopod is a subsidiary of HTC and as you can see the agressiveness of HTC insisting on Dopod to monopolise Asian market and how O2 loose their market in supplying HTC product in Asia
Rm3888 during pc fair? So sad i missed that.. My hubby bought it as a Christmas present for me at Rm4050 from lowyat with 1G SD and Jabra headset.. really enjoying this great invention... just wish it could be a little bit faster.. i havent tried the tweaks yet for fear that i might mess it up.. as the saying goes, if it aint broke, dont fix it
well....the price of 3888 was without the sd and the headset.
I myself have the Qtek 9000 which I just recently purchased. Both my uncle and I were debating over whether to get the Universal or not and I was finally the one who cave in. I got the Qtek at a pretty good price too. Paid about US$880 for it.
As for the popularity, it seems that a lot of the S'poreans are going towards the route of the O2Exec with Tariffs because it's a lot cheaper than buying it in S'pore. And if Dopod knows wot's good for them, they'll make it look as cool as the O2. Love the black clamshell and blue keyboard.
Concerning the tweaks, I'm slowly beginning to start tweaking the Q to work as best as I can. And maybe even change the ROM to O2's rom at a later time.
Hi,
Could someone with an English Dopod 900 ROM please dump and post to this site?
Regards
Michael
Re: Aftermath of upgrading from DOPOD 900 to the new 02 EXEC
hi dear
can u please help me in getting faster ROM (new ROM) for my JasJar.
regards
After my Xda II died on me, I finally took the plunge and got Dopod 900 as my brithday & Christmas prezzie. Managed to beat it down to RM3,700 w/o SD or bluetooth headset.

O2 Xda Exec use on Cingular network

I've searched this can can't find anything...I was wondering if i could use the Exec on my cingular plan without having to change anything. I'd like to be able to use my existing SIM card with it. Thanks for the help.
Paden said:
I've searched this can can't find anything...I was wondering if i could use the Exec on my cingular plan without having to change anything. I'd like to be able to use my existing SIM card with it. Thanks for the help.
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Yes, you can , but you need had unlock O2 Exec , I used Cingular in my Exec work fine.
I got the same problem with you, I cant get it work with Cingular service and I cant get any solutions from searching net. I have tried to talk with them, go to their stores and do whatever I can. The result still the same, it really make me headache....I have already paid for 2 months fee in "NO SERVICE" condition and they cannot do anything!
O2 XDA Exec issue with cingular ....
O2 XDA Execs come unlocked from O2. When i received mine when it came first out in early october 2005, i just plugged in my Cingular SIM and there wasn't any problems. Though note that the SIM location is a little iffy at times, you shouldn't have a lot of problems.
You would also need to configure the GPRS settings on the Exec.
BTW, noticing you're from MO, which phone were you using prior to the Exec? it might give me more of an idea of your situation ...I've been using GSM phone for a while and i know that Cingular didn't have a full GSM network until a couple of months ago ... and if you came from AT&T then that's another ballgame as well ... AT&T used a mix of different standards as well ...
C
I was using MDA II before EXEC. Start from May, I can't get the signal anymore, at first I thought it was my MDA problem, so I changed it to EXEC. But, who knows? The same problem still there. Cingular just blame O2 that the EXEC has problem, and they do nothing.
Are you using EXEC now? How to change the GPRS setting?
In addition, I was Cingular customer about 1.5 year already. This problem happen since May. I really have no idea how to solve it.

NEW O2 EXEC-WHAT WOULD U DO?

hi all,
i have just bought a new O2 Exec.. I was wondering what software/tweaks you guys recommend.
Regards,
frz
i also just have my dopod 900, similar to o2 exec and i still dont know what to install. I saw something about AKU2 or AKU3 on the forum but dont know where to download, can someone please advice/help us as my device was sometimes cannot received data signal while connecting to internet.
I just download TCPMP player to the device and it was a great staff to play with and I will not use the WMP for movie/tv.
Guys, I've just bought myself a new suit.
Would you like to come over and try it on for me?
Come on - a little work on your side will be necessary, and searching is the best way to show that you've tried.
Have a read through this thread for guidelines on using the board:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534
And then have a look here for a starter:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32698&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
AKU stuff - get started slowly before you start modifying the OS too much, as a lot of the stuff on the board can make your system unstable if used incorrectly. Configure your basics, get yourself some good backup software, and then check out the wiki and the ftp.
Most of the newer roms will have some AKU support already in, I think.
V
Thanks a lot bro Vijay555. Will try to surf now and get more info.
danlee: as a friend from Malaysia, you might want to check out my buddies on www.ppcsg.com and www.gadget.sg
V
Danlee....
Just out of curiosity....how much is internet connectivity in M'sia?
I'm planning on coming home during the CNY and would like to use the service if it's not too expensive.
Would you mind posting the cost of the internet connection and who the provider is?
Will it be available prepaid?
Thanks.
Fellow M'sian in US.
To vijay555,
Thanks a lot but i cant do downdoading now cause i am on GPRS connection now. But i will visit your site when i got back home.
To Moden man,
The cost for GPRS connection will be 1 cent for 1kb. You can only use 3G in KL area. You can access by using DiGi, Celcom and Maxis as your service provider.

T-mobile MDA vs. Cingular 8125

I'm looking to purchase one of these devices but not sure which one. I belong to Cingular but I like the look of the T-mobile MDA. Is there anything majorly different from a hardware/software point between these two?
If I get the t-mobile mda will I have any issues using it with Cingular? I know I need to sim unlock it first. My main use of this phone is for calls and text messgs. I rarely use the internet but may do so more later on. Just want to make sure the T-mobile softeware will not interfere with cingular settings. Can someone enlighten me? How about flashing it to a non branded rom? Or a cingular rom if thats possible. lol
Great forum my da way!!!
i bought a tmobile mda for use on cingular because of the keyboard design and general asthetics od the thing. i did unlock it then flashed it to the 217.7.2wwe cingular rom found on this sites ftp section. it works great with text, internet, has great rf reception. only thing i havent tried with it is mms.
rest easy; it works. if you have more questions there are people here much more experienced than i.
hardwares deep inside, they are the same machine. Once you have it (either 8125 or MDA) you can do SIM & CID unlock and put in any ROM for wizard you'd like; if you get MDA you can put 8125 rom on it and has all the cingular settings (which you can set it up manually also with other ROMs)
The main concern is the warranty. You are with Cingular and if you get 8125, whenever you have problem with it within 1 year of purchase, you can get warranty exchange (cingular will send you a new one, and you send the bad one back to them after you recieve the new one, all free)
But if you have MDA, you will have to send it to HTC for repair which might take a long time to come back.
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i bought a tmobile mda for use on cingular because of the keyboard design and general asthetics od the thing. i did unlock it then flashed it to the 217.7.2wwe cingular rom found on this sites ftp section. it works great with text, internet, has great rf reception. only thing i havent tried with it is mms.
rest easy; it works. if you have more questions there are people here much more experienced than i.
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Great! just what I was looking for. I did not know you could install a cingular rom over another brand. soo cool. Did you use the lokiwiz program (which version??) to unlock both the sim and cid? Or another program? Same here I like the rounded corners and two tone keyboard. I wish t-mobile online would sell w/o contract since its a decent price. At the store its almost 100 more.
New to PPC coming from the Motorola camp....
Know to search for a MDA....
Be Careful
Be careful, some of the newer Wizards (MDAs & 8125s) have a newer chip inside referred to as the G4 chip. It is my understanding that lokiwiz will SIM unlock the device which will allow you to use your Cingular SIM card. However, lokiwiz won't CID unlock the MDA with the new chip. So you won't be able to use all the new custom ROMs on ths site.
It is pretty easy to manually configure the setting so the MDA will work fully on Cingular. I have the 8125 and am using T-mobile. The internet, text messanging, and MMS work great.
Check out the threads on the Wizard Upgrading forum for more info. on how to tell which chip your phone has.
Thanks for the tip. I've read some threads about the dreaded G4 chip. Hopefully someone will crack it soon. There is a website that can unlock the G4 chip both sim and cid but it costs like 40 bucks. Worst case I can send it to them.
jdub71: How is the ear piece sound level on the MDA when on a call? how do you rate it? loud, med. or could be louder despite on full volume.
rambo6: Same question. How is you're ear piece volume level on the 8125?
PC mag suggested that the MDA had a lower ear piece volume than the 8125. I wanted to hear from actual users. Louder the better for me. Is there a reg. hack to make the ear piece volume louder? Thanks
I'm running an MDA on Cingular with no problems. Got it a week ago with every intention of flashing to 8125 cingular, but it seems to have figured out most Cingular settings automatically.No problems.... yet.
I don't see how one Wizard could be louder than another.
Have turn it down on both my plantronics bluetooth and wired earphones.
Couple of other quality control concerns with the MDA versus the 8125, I've heard that the MDA is more prone to having the paint come off the keys and that they are also more prone to having the stylus come loose after prolonged usage.
Don't have a MDA, only a 8125, but that's what I have gathered from reading the forums.
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How do you go about finding out what ROM version you have and also how do you tell if you have successfully unlocked your MDA?
Also how do you tell if you have the "G4" chip?
Thanks
Good question. I want a custom rom too.
8125ppc (and htc just updated)
You can go to the thread below to learn how to tell which chip is in your Wizard.
Also, I have great sound through the 8125's earpiece. Sometimes I have to turn it down.
My suggestion is buy whichever phone you want. The MDA has keys that are a little closer together. I'd suggest you look at both in person. You can buy either in the US through letstalk.com without a contract but the phone will be set up for either Cingular or T-mobile and you'll need to unlock it to use another carrier.
If you can hold off a few months, the TyTN or some UMTS form thereof should be offered in the U.S.
T-mobile is great but it will be at least a year before they get a 3G network going. Cingular is the only carrier in the U.S. with a 3G UMTS network in major cities. It's significantly faster than Edge but not as fast as Verizon's evdo.
I hope that HTC offers some phone to work on both the US and European UMTS/HSDPA networks soon. Some form of TyTN or the Trion would do it.
Once you start surfing the web and texting with a Wizard, you'll get addicted and want more speed. Verizion's evdo is so damn fast. I miss verizon's speed but love my Wizard and hope to have the newest HTC phone soon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54030
After read many many threads on these it does seem like the 8125 has a better build quality than the MDA. Sound quality may also be superior since alot of MDA owners are complaing about sound issues. I was going to get the MDA but now I'm leaning on the 8125. Main reason is availability. Its easier for me to get the 8125 since I'm on cingular. I'm just worried about the sound volume being too low. I've read about the slider not working and such.....many requests to boost the sound but no real answer.
Hmm. New phone called the TyTN? Made also by HTC? May look into that also.
My friend has a T-Mobile MDA and I have the Cingular 8125. He has the original rom that came with the phone and I have the latest one 2.25. We were at my friends basement he had 3-4 bars of connection while I had non or 1 bar. He always has better connection then me.
ZzFDKzZ said:
My friend has a T-Mobile MDA and I have the Cingular 8125. He has the original rom that came with the phone and I have the latest one 2.25. We were at my friends basement he had 3-4 bars of connection while I had non or 1 bar. He always has better connection then me.
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Okay,let's see here.....
1) Are you both using the same carriers ?
If yes to above, it is a Rom issue.
If no to above, then it is pretty obvious as to the reason for the different signal levels!
I have a Qtek 9100 Wizard with the summiter custom Cingular 2.24 rom and can tell you for a fact that different roms DO act differently.Even roms from the same carriers, I might add! LOL
Later........
Yeah like I said he has T-Mobile and I have Cingular. He has the original rom and I have that new one http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54726 Even with summiter 2.24 rom that I had last month he still had way better connection in my friends basement.
ZzFDKzZ said:
Yeah like I said he has T-Mobile and I have Cingular. He has the original rom and I have that new one http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54726 Even with summiter 2.24 rom that I had last month he still had way better connection in my friends basement.
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That's just to compare Cingular v.s. Tmobile signal, NOT 8125 v.s. MDA.
If your 8125 is SIM unlocked, try put in your friend's SIM card and see how is the signal on your phone; should be much better than your SIM.
.....Like I said, different carriers= different towers =different signal strength. As was said above, if sim unlocked, swap sims and see what happens.
Later.......
I never tought about that, I'll try the sim change next time.

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