Now that the honeymoon period is over I have started noticing a few problems with the JJ. The most serious I noted is that when the JJ has gone through some use after its last soft reset it tends to freeze when a new text message arrives in the in-box. This does not happen when the JJ has been freshly soft reset and only when some time has passed since it was last soft reset. Since I have set the unit to vibrating alert on receipt of a new message the vibrator continuously starts operating and the phone freezes. To stop the vibrator you need to do a soft reset again.
Anybody had this problem??? I am planning to do a hard reset and see what happens.
Regards
Definitely related to some software that you have installed. I use sms everyday and havent faced any such problem.
Yes it does freezes your device when you receive new SMS, some time even I lost the SMS which was coming tru,..
Once I lost the MMS Account itself, then had to go for softreset and got it back again...
I've had the same thing happening. Very annoying. That's just Microsoft as we know it. We can't get out of the habbit of frequent softresets.
I did a complete ROM upgrade today and I replaced the Arabic ROM which came preinstalled on my JJ with the english version as available at the clubimate site. Without installing any 3rd party software I tested the SMS freezing problem and unfortunately it is very much there. This at least proves that no 3rd party software is to blame for this.
Now I am thinking that maybe I will have to dispose of the JJ as I so much depend on text messaging. The worst part is that as the JJ freezes on arrival of a new SMS the message itself is also lost and after doing the soft reset you can never tell from whom the message was.
I will really appreciate if anyone can help
Kind Regards
Inherent
If you have an SD card inserted try removing it and see if the problem persist.
What i dont get is why this problem is unique to a very small percentage of devices. Many of use the device for SMS quite frequently and dont face this problem. I wonder what the triggering factor is.
universaldoc said:
What i dont get is why this problem is unique to a very small percentage of devices. Many of use the device for SMS quite frequently and dont face this problem. I wonder what the triggering factor is.
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I have this problem since I updated my ROM.
I posted this a few days back that the Jasjar tends to hang not all the time but most of the time when a new SMS arrives and in fact the SMS is also lost when you recover after a soft reset.
I thought that I will re-post this question because now more users would have had more experience with their Jasjars. For me this problem does not seem to go. I have tried even a hard reset and the problem keeps coming back even with no third party software installed.
I shall be obliged if anyone else who has had this problem may kindly post his views because this may put some pressure on the people at i-mate to come up with a fix. I fear that since this problem is being faced by a very small minority of JJ users a fix may never see the light of the day.
Kind Regards
I have a himalaya device with WM5 and have the exact same 'sms-lockup' problem.
Also, somethimes all the incoming calls are forwarded to my voicemail, even when my phone ison and the signal is strong and im not using my device. This can only be solved by a reset or after i made a call myself. Till that time no-one could call me!
The problems started when i installed another WM5-rom and a new radio-rom( 1.18 ). This was the first time a upgraded the radio-rom, so i think this could be the problem.
Im going to install the older radio-rom ver1.08 (recommanded in combi with WM5 by buzzdef.net). I hope this solves it!
I to have the same problem... Every time you open a new text message or even after sending message and when you get delivery report it freezes and you will have to reset.. but if you are in the middle of a call the phone still works fine but not able to use the PDA part because its freeze...
Have installed another, older, radio-rom( 1.08 ) and used it for almost a week... no freezes sofar!! I dont know if this rom can be used for a Universal device...
Just uncheck the "turn off device after..." option in battery settings and this problem will go away.
This was pointed out by user Khaled in another thread.
im also experiencing this after i upgraded to Second Edition. my Himalaya tends to freeze when receiving SMS. applications starts to slow down but will eventually recover after the SMS receipt notification, no need for softresets. i also noticed that currently, it would take about 10 seconds before SMS notification appears in the screen. im sure about this because i would know that an SMS is coming because my computer monitor, adjacent to my XDA, would flicker. so the turn-around time from the flickering of the monitor to the SMS notification would last around 10-12 seconds. is this normal?
I was so fed up with the SMS freezing problem that I sold my Jasjar, albeit at a much loss and exchanged it for a new one.
Just my bad luck the problem is also there on my 2nd Jasjar. It is exactly the same as the one I have sold. When I get a new SMS the unit freezes and has to be soft reset. Please note that this does not happen every time but say 1 in 10 times. Anyways this makes the whole system very unreliable. When your phone is in your pocket and an SMS causes it to freeze you will never know if now somebody tries to make an urgent call because your unit is not responding.
I have also tried the remedy / fix mentioned in this fourm to to Uncheck Turn Off Device but does not work.
My only hope is that this problem is fixed in the next ROM upgrade.
In the meantime I am evaluating prospects of leaving the WM platform altogether and going for a Nokia 9500
a friend just adviced me that it was my Radio version that is causing the problem. 1.18 has a lot of bugs including this freezing issue. so he suggested that i reflash my ROM and go back to Radio version 1.17. could somebody point me where the bug issues of 1.18 are listed here in the forum? thanks
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Hi,
On my XDAII (1.72) I sometimes experience a not responding phone/SMS application or radio stack.
People trying to call me are instantly redirected to the voicemail, and if I try to make eiter a call or send a text message, respectively the phone application is stalling or the SMS 'Send' button stays in the 'pressed' state.
Soft-resetting the phone or toggling the 'turn off radio' function re-establishes the radio.
Does anyone knows of a solution?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated and possibly rewarded with a 6-pack Heineken beer
weird, mines just done the same thing. I sent an sms and nothing. I was then taken to the phone screen and it said something like invalid sim something.
I'm wondering if the sim card is not locked in place. I was fiddling around with mine yesterday and maybe forgot to lock the sim card in place.
Just a thought but maybe worth checking :wink:
what radio version do you have ? I recently have the problem that when people call me, the ringtone goes for about 2 seconds, then restarts, etc.
Meanwhile I can do nothing ( green button don't work) . When the caller hangs up my phone returns to the normal state.
I use radio 1.18. Thinking of downgrading to 1.17 which people say is more stable.
pleun said:
what radio version do you have ? I recently have the problem that when people call me, the ringtone goes for about 2 seconds, then restarts, etc.
Meanwhile I can do nothing ( green button don't work) . When the caller hangs up my phone returns to the normal state.
I use radio 1.18. Thinking of downgrading to 1.17 which people say is more stable.
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I'm using Radio version 1.17, ROM version 1.72.00WWE
The SIM is firmly locked into place
ah..... :shock:
Hello folks,
I have the same problem now for a week... It's driving me crazy... At
some point in time during the night or the day my Qtek2020 gets weird.
The result is that people trying to call me can't connect but to viocemail,
and I can't receive SMS. The only way I can see that I am having this
problem is that whenever I try to send a SMS I get a message "your SMS
cannot be sent", and if I try to make a call, the phone seems to dial out
normally the first second, but then the DIAL-button (which is color-less)
becomes green again...
Please, if someone knows what's wrong or if someone had the same
problem and solved without having to default the whole thing, please
let me know what is the solution.. It is really annoying, so I now have
to randomly reset my phone throughout the day.
PS: my battery is now on 4% so I have to look for my charger, and
after that I can supply with info about radio-version etc. I am running
WM2003 by the way, and I've had no problems like this before, this
unit has been working fine until now. I guess it's a sw-bug? And I
am also wondering if this problem occurs whenever I pass a place
with low signal.. hmm, it's so annoying..
Thanks for any help!
Fred
I've been having problems similar to the OP for 2-3 weeks now (found this thread in a search before posting). It's damned annoying, as it means you can't really trust your phone - am I meant to reset every morning, or more frequently? It seems an intermittent problem, in so far as I've been receiving and making calls as normal, and then you someone asks 'did you get my text?'. Gritting teeth, you call the phone from a landline to find that calls are going straight to voicemail. After a soft reset all missing texts are received immediately, and calls can again be received.
When in this state other PDA functions seem to work as normal. However, I suspect that the power display is "suspended" too. On performing a soft reset after experiencing this problem today, I immediately got "your battery is extremely low", whereas before the reset I recall it was around 50% (vBar image). As others have stated, one clue that not all is well is that sent texts do not get a "Message sent" confirmation.
I've been racking my brains as to what's changed recently on my PDA. For family reasons I've been making a lot more calls than usual, but I also added TomTom Navigator 5 a couple of months ago, and so have started intermittently using BT. But I don't use Sat Nav that frequently, and this problem seems more prevalent.
I'm conscious that I don't have latest and greatest ROM, etc, but am vary about attempting upgrades without strong reasons.
Has anyone seen and solved this issue?
Have you tried cleaning the contacts on the sim card? After a while dust and general wear and tear can mess them up. Also as it's obviously(?) a phone problem it might be beneficial to call your service provider for a new sim card.
That's what I had to do last week. Wish you the best anyway.
It can't have anything to with the sim card as I'm having this problem with a brand new sim card.
Hi,
i know this has came up alot, i was just wondering if anyone has found a fix for the xda exec crashing when a text is recieved. This does not happen to me often but it does happen and is quite annoying as the text is lost sometimes.
Also i find that sometimes when i leave my phone closed in clam shell mode overnight i wake up and open the phone but it seemed to be crashed. There was one night when my girlfriend sent me 3 txts during that night and she got delivery reports saying they were delivered,once i turnt my phone on in the morning it was frozen and i had to soft reset but didnt get any of her txts. Im now trialling to leave the phone on in standard pda mpde (screen facing out) overnight to see if it happens this way or not.
Michael
p.s: im using the standard rom that came with the phone
rom: 1.13.48
radio: 1.04.02
protocol: 42.37.P8
Yes the problem is very much there still. I have been using the Jasjar for almost 3 months now. During these 3 months this is my 2nd Jasjar and the problem is on both my units.
The chances of SMS freezing the Jasjar is more likely when the available RAM is below 17 MB. So what I am doing to reduces chances of this happening is to soft reset when the available RAM is below 18 MB. However this is still no gaurantee though it does reduce the chances of the Jasjar freezing upon receiving a text message.
This is a very annoying problem as this makes the whole thing so unreliable. You will never know that a text message has come through and caused your Jasjar to freeze till you need to use your phone again, and if during this period someone tries to contact you his call will not get through.
May I also mention that a few days back I also upgraded my Jasjar with the O2 ROM but the problem was still there. Furthermore I am convinced that this problem is not being caused by any 3rd party software. I can say so with confidence because I have hard rest several times and found the problem to be there even when no third party software was installed.
My only hope is now a ROM upgrade which I heard is due in December. I this does not solve the problem at least for me I can say that I am quitting and the Nokia 9500 will be my next phone.
Regards
@mho,
which mode are you using. I had the SMS freezing problem with my JJ but with my Exec in Corporate mode I have not suffered this. However, I have noticed that since I downloaded the latest ROM from the O2 my Exec is less stable then with the original ROM!
i am using the corporate mode, its mroe stable than the basic mode but upon recieving ssm it still crashes.
i think im going to call o2 today and ask them to change my phone. I thinking of samsung sgh-i300 now.
such a shame cos i really like the exec, if i didnt need a reliable txt function so much i wouldnt really care about it.
When I tried the O2 ROM on my i-mate Jasjar I also opted for the corporate mode and this still did not solve the text message freeing problem. I therefore shifted back to the original i-mate Jasjar ROM
Regards
Did you guys have Pocket Informant or TCMP + ffdshow/ac3 codec pack installed by any chance?
My SMS was perfectly fine until yesterday I installed the above, and upon receiving an SMS my exec (corp) hung...
Hard resetting now...
doody said:
Did you guys have Pocket Informant or TCMP + ffdshow/ac3 codec pack installed by any chance?
My SMS was perfectly fine until yesterday I installed the above, and upon receiving an SMS my exec (corp) hung...
Hard resetting now...
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I have TCMP installed and running on the original corporate ROM and NEVER had the crash upon receiving SMS.
When I had my JJ I did get the freezing problem with receipt of a SMS - but I was also using Pocket Informant. On my Exec on Corp mode I don't use Pocket Informant but use Agenda Fusion and have never suffered the SMS issue. Looks like it could be a third-party app (I also may have used a Today screen plug-in on my JJ, which I don't use anymore) causing the SMS problem.
OK this is starting to peeve me..... hard reset, didn't install TCMP, only installed PI trial and SMS hang issue is back...argh!
no, i had no 3rd party apps and it still hung. I think someelse also didnt have any 3rd party apps and had this problem too.
thx mho... I'll test it out for a day or two more and if it still hangs I'm calling O2. I have a suspicion that it's an issue to do with the memory leaks, probably due to filehandles not being closed when accessing an SD card with LOTS of files in it.
Happening again after being ok for 2 days... calling O2 today...
Yes it is true... I am having same prob too... Even after hardreset without any 3rd party applications, after a while after softreset, my phone does freeze... Some time I am not even able to read the message.
Not sure how scientific this is - but I had the 'crash on SMS' quite a bit in the first week or so of using my Exec.
The first time it happened, I thought it might be to do with insufficient resources, so I regularly closed down background tasks and did occasional soft-resets to 'clean it up'. This didn't seem to make much difference.
HOWEVER, this week I've basically just made sure POutlook is actually running at all times, and I've not had a single problem.
When I fancy the old 'close all tasks' if I've got a load of apps running in the background - I just follow it with a swift press of the "envelope" button.
It SEEMS to be working!
FunkyMagic said:
It SEEMS to be working!
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Except I spoke too soon. Graaagh. :evil:
Came back to a flashing orange LED, opened up to see, and the thing had frozen.
doh! :evil:
I had the SMS freeze problem with my JJ now I only have it with email download over GPRS. Unfortunately a lot of Universal fans here don't think there are any problems with the Universal while the rest of us are trying to find workarounds. A bit annoying really.
It must be from the service provider, because someone already tested it after a hard reset with nothing installed and still getting these SMS freezes. It could also be the phone. It is hard to pinpoint because I don't see any Cingular-USA complaining of SMS freezing. As most Universal users are in the UK.
If it's any consolation.....happens to me once in a while too.....don't think it could be the network.....but maybe some O2 files??
no freeze but SMS just not received
see my post - only receiving some SMS - this is related to an XDA 2i
on O2 network
the more I trail this forum for SMS issues the more I am concerned that this is a serious bug with the phone.
I have done extensive troubleshooting on this and can confirm that it is a) not related to any loaded SW or backup, b) happening on nearly all XDA derivates to some extend, C) is mainly related to the unit trying to "wake up" (which is normal for SMS receive). Pattern seems to be that combined with a weak signal the XDA wakes up, looses network, re-aquires but the receive failed. The confirmation that the message was received is however already deliverd as the XDA woke up. I can re-create this behaviour at will now. If you send two messages within a short time frame the Second message only will be received. So it is definitely related to the unit waking up.
My XDA was with O2 for repair twice and no change in behaviour. they have agreed to exchange - but see above - form the posts here I think that it is a general problem with the unit
Hi,
I've noticed that sometimes after rebooting my MDA Pro some SMS are missing. Usually the once I had received within about 2hours of reseting the device.
How long should I have to wait before they are saved to a more permanent storage?
usually it never happens that it deletes it by itself even i have never heard abt this b4 . Did u upgraded it recently or ne other sms software installed ,that might b the reason for it.
I have the exact same problem... very frustrating! I just have the plain O2 software installed on my Exec, but any texts I get within about 30 mins of resetting just go. I heard it takes a while so put them in the permanent memory - why is this? Anyone know of a fix?
Davey
Good(?!?) to hear its not just me. I've had the problem on every version I've had installed.
A fix for this would be great!
jeuk said:
Good(?!?) to hear its not just me. I've had the problem on every version I've had installed.
A fix for this would be great!
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I've quite often elaborated on this problem and the solution to it (see for example http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=898&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ): make sure you entirely power down (simple suspending won't suffice with a Phone Edition device) the PPC BEFORE (or, instead of) resetting it. It will make sure the changes are flushed back to Flash ROM.
I have read somewhere in this forum that this can be solved my switching of (button at the left) and again switching it on before doing a soft reset. I didn't try it however.
Greeets
I have a really annoying problem with my Orange M3100 (hermes).
Intermitently, but almost every day now, the phone freezes up when a text message comes through, i.e. it will not switch on from standby mode.
I have to reset the phone, and I lose the text message. It can really screw my day up if it was an important text!
Does anyone else have this problem?
I'm looking for a ROM upgrade, but afaik there haven't been any releases from Orange yet. Do any of the other ROMs (i.e. HTC TyTN) have newer sections? I'm guessing it may be a radio ROM problem, but can't be sure of course.
Also hoping crossbow leaks for hermes soon, in case that sorts it out.
Let me know,
cheers,
Joe
I used to have this problem with my Universal.
I had removed the "Messaging" icon from my today screen to make space for other today plug-ins. Since the day I had put the Messaging icon back on my today screen, not once has my device frozen on receipt of a new SMS.
In case you too have removed the messaging icon from the today screen, I strongly suggest that you put it back.
Hope this helps and regards
I had a similar problem with an old MDA2 in which case it was caused by an incompatible SIM card which was old (Version 1.0)... I went to my Cell provider and they exchanged my SIM card with an upgraded one (SIM Version 3.5) and all my SMS problems went away!
My 2 cents...
Rayan
Thanks guys, but my messaging icon is still on the today screen.
Not sure about the sim card. It's the one that Orange sent me when i bought the phone, so I'm assuming it would be compatible. How can I tell what version SIM it is?
at least on mine it has V3.5 in big letters on one side of the chip...
@ Joehood
Did you manage to resolve this issue or are you having to live with it happening occasionally?
I have noticed this on my device and it occurs only occasionally but when it does it always coincides with a SMS being received and when I'm in the middle of writing one.
Do you have any 3rd party apps that may be causing this?
I have running, PhoneAlarm and PhonePad. I am currently running SPB Mobile SHell but this has happened before installing this. Also occurred in WM5 and WM6.
I figure it might be PhoneAlarm so might try living without to see if this might be the cause, but find this a very useful app.
i got a similar problem on my JASJAM, not being able to send messages right after receiving a message. used to have the phone crash after receiving a message too. i've upgraded my radio and ROM (now using Black Majik and radio ver 1.43) but the problem's still there. still hoping and looking for a cure, hehe...
Whenever I've had this problem, it's been because I'm connected to a bad wifi connection when the text message came in.
If its a good wifi connection that is working properly or if I have no wifi connection, it doesn't happen.
Can anyone help??
I've had my leo for a while now and I love the phone with one major exception.....
Sometimes when I call a contact nothing happens then after an eternity, 2minutes, the call is placed. I have good network connection and have tried it with and without 3G.
When this error is present I also get a problem whereby I can't hang up.
This seems to be a software problem. I'm on the T-mobile network in the UK. Does anyone else have the same problem?
I couldn't find anything on the forums. I've tried stripping programs/software off and have tried both hard and soft resets. The problem appeared to go away after a hard reset but then appear again weeks later for no apparent reason.
I have the original ROM version (1.43.110.2) and no significant mod's apart from Cookie home screen tabs and a few simple registry tweaks.
Any help guys, I'm contemplating taking the phone back but will I just end up with a reconditioned model? Mine's in mint condition and I don't want to end up with some banged up phone.
Hi, Did the phone work before the reg tweaks and software installation? A new T-Mobile UK ROM was published on the 15th, it might be an idea for you to flash your phone, test it then tweak, if it doesn't work after you flash it then speak to T-Mobile. If it workls after you flash it but not after you tweak then there's your problem Here is the link to HTC's UK web site with the download. I'd guess that T-Mobile will have a link on their support site for it too, somewhere: http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=2.
Hope this helps.
Mine does the same thing. Also mine also freezes when I get incoming calls. After I talk to the other person, I can't hang up. It's frozen. I have to hit the reset button on the back or take out the batter. I have two HD2's T-Mobile US Versions on release day.
I did do some HD2 tweaks to turn on the LED when I get messages though.
I'm going to reset both devices and see what happens. Maybe the old softwares don't work on the HD2 even though it's for WinMo 6.5.
I really hope it work, because I hate to return the unit. It's a beautiful hardware.
Thanks CMMY, I'll try installing the new ROM as soon as I get a chance.
I didn't have the problem before installing software/tweaks; but then again it was only probably a couple of days before I played around with it. After I did a hard reset and reinstalled some software it was working fine for at least a week before the problem re-occured, which seemed quite strange. Today the phone is working fine but will undoubtedly return, the fault seems entirely intermittent.
Daily driver: I also have the same problem when recieving calls. I'll let you know how I get on.
Same problem here, my phone is 3 days old and I have to remove the battery to end most calls, did a master reset and thought that fixed it. Couple hours later it was back at it. I'm using a tmobile hd2. This seems to be a very common problem, hope they come out with a patch soon..
Same problem here, hope it gets fixed someday
same problem
all the same..
t mobile croatia..
cant make phone call
cant hang up
...
all other provider sim works fine
help..
Do any of you use BSB tweeks?
steveianson said:
Do any of you use BSB tweeks?
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I am using it and i also have the same problem with the calls. This issue manifested before and also after BSB instalation.
I am using an orange branded rom 1.48
hionuth said:
I am using it and i also have the same problem with the calls. This issue manifested before and also after BSB instalation.
I am using an orange branded rom 1.48
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Try un-ticking "Tap Time"
it seems its a network related problem...
sim related...
got to ask for super sim..
like the data connection stops calls..
with a super sim the problem is much smoller.. :?
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Try un-ticking "Tap Time"
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This worked for me, thanks
I have this issue across diffrent roms, soft reboot does not fix it. just fixes itself after a while
Hi
Did you find a solution to this problem?
I'm using GSM HD2 Europe.
This problem start occurring after a while when I was using 29 Aug Energy rom.
After a reset the phone work ok for few hours.
When to problem start, the send physical button does not work.
if I want to make a call I must use the "phone" from the start menu.
When I try to end the call, the phone software stop responding, but the operation system keeps working.
In order to end the call I must remove the battery.
I when back to the original rom 1.66 from HTC site.
the problem still exist but less frequently.
(by the way the original rom work much slower then the energy custom rom.)
I’m wasting so much time on this phone, and I’m on the verge of giving up .
I will be happy to get some help.
Thanks
Ran S
If you do not have BsB tweaks, but used tweak #44 in "Leo's tips and tweaks", this can cause problems for some.
can't hangup
I found the reason for this problem. (at least for the specific problem I had)
I'm using resco keyboard.
if I leave the Caps lock on after using the keyboard, then the "Send" HW button does not work, and you can't hangup calls.
by opening the keyboard again and releasing the caps lock the all work fine again.
I've also had this problem... Made me consider selling this otherwise great HD2, sometimes even running it over with a car
When I want to make a call, phone just won't dial - it freezes, but everything else works fine (only "phone app" freezes). So, I give up the call. Few minutes later, it unfreezes, and phone starts calling. Usually, from my pocket. Also, after a call, I can't hang up. I often ended up with removing the battery.
I tried everything...
Restarting the phone makes everything ok, but only for a few minutes.
Installing different app, tweaks, etc - nothing.
Removing everything and returning the phone to factory settings - nothing.
Then, I remembered to disable Sense. That was it. I have used the phone without Sense for months, and it didn't happen. Not even ONCE!
Can anybody here do anything with this?
I still want to use Sense because it looks awsome, way better than Windows interface...
You could try a custom rom. I have been using Dutty's latest and greatest without any of the problems you're describing.