Do O2 and Vodaphone 'Network Lock' their phones - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I am hoping to get a wizard as soon as they come out and it looks like O2 and Vodaphone will be first. Do both these carriers lock their phones? I currently have an Orange and a t-mobile account so would prefer to use my existing sims and just use the new account as a means to "spead the payment costs" (I got my jam for free 9 months ago for the price of a £22 p/m contract )
If they do lock their phones does anyway know if the existing unlock methods will work.
On a different note, I much prefer the look of the qtek 9100 to the k-jam - are there any hardware differences apart from the look?
Paul

I'm %90 sure they do... plus as a rule Vodafone butcher the firmware of most phones.
Get either a Imate or Qtek you should find it unlocked as its not a 'branded' phone.
I would suggest that buymobilephones.net is the best place as you can get one of the above with a contract... I am...
Terran

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UNLOCKING UNIVERSAL

Hello
My Question is if you can down grade the universal to WM2003SE
if you can do that you can use the unlock code we got on this forum
and if it is unlocked up grade to magneto (windows2005)
has anny one done this[/b]
Wouldnt make any difference as the Lock is held in the Radio Rom I beleive.
There also is no wm2003se for universal, it was designed as a 2005 device from start to end.
Nice idea, but I think making a working Unlock tool for the standard universal is a better idea.
is the o2 exec locked at all?
im travelling a lot between germany and uk, and therefore want to use my o2 plan simcard as well as my german eplus simcard.
The shop assistant in the o2 shop told me that i CAN use non-O2 simcards in the universal (o2 xda exec) without any problem. Could I also use a Orange PAYG simcard?
How much was it to officially unlock the phone?
thanks
Ive not received mine yet, but its possible they dont lock it. Unlikely though.
Can anyone with an Exec confirm if its provider locked?
Mine was unlocked on delivery. Also if you search these forums everyone else is reporting theres where not locked.
Can confirm that my Exec wasn't locked, tried both a Vodafone SIM and an Orange PayGo SIM with no problem.
Wizard
theres no point downgrading to wm2k3....you'll only run into more problems...
wm2k3 is built to share ram for both ram and rom.....so, that means, your 43meg partition would have to be divided....and thats just too bad! So, i guess, you just need to stick with wm5 for the time being....and hope for a good rom update to come by!
Best,
San
I asked the woman at O2 this morning if it's locked and she said it would be... I'll let you know when I get it on Monday.

O2 Exec with Singlepoint SIM

Hi,
I've ordered an O2 Exec and have an O2 account but the account is managed by Vodafone since they purchased Singlepoint (or SingleIQpoint, as I preferred to call them).
When I called Vodafone to ask whether I could upgrade my account to a 3G one I was told that my existing SIM card in the Exec would allow me to use 3G data speeds (no indication of exact speed) but that video calling would be impossible unless I shifted my account to a full Vodafone one.
Has anyone got any insights as to whether this is accurate or not?
Many thanks!
Case of SingleIQpoint again I fear! Call O2 and get the real story!
Although this may not be of any use, I had a similar experience with a vodafone reseller (who went t#ts up) a few years ago, I think it was with GPRS, I had to get a new SIM from Voda direct.
And as for singlepoint 4u /cauldwell grp, the least said the better!
I'm now stuck in one of those infernal loops where I call 02 who tell me to call Vodafone who tell me to call O2 who... :shock:
I'm now desperately trying to think up some scheme to sort this out.
I've had my Vodafone/SingleIQpoint/O2 account for about 2 years now. If I get the PAC number from another account, can my Vodafone/SingleIQpoint/O2 number be changed to it?
Please help me before my brain escapes through my ear...
@The Doctor, just use the O2 SIM you have and if you can't make video calls complain to O2 and SingleIQpoint. They will have to give you a new O2 SIM if you complain hard enough.
Also threaten to report Singlepoint to OfCom!

changing networks spv M3100

hi all. could somebody help this newbie. what it is i've just got a spv M3100 hermes 100 (htc tytn) on orange uk as it was cheaper then what t-mobile wanted £85.00 I payed including wayfinder 6 gps t-mobile wanted £200 including autoroute (bloody big differnce) now my question what software do I need to sim unlock the phone & cid unlock it so I can install the latest t-mobile wwe rom on it as orange only comes with version 1.06 as I want to use my t-mobile sim in the phone for the hscda 1.8meg broadband speeds as orange haven't upgraded yet as i'm on the web&walk max with the mda vario (wizzard200) and really would love to be able to use the hermes 100 with t-mobile as I don't want to have to get a new phone on t-mobile as i've already got 4 mobiles already lol. if somebody could help me I would be most gratfull. a pint is in it for the first person to give me a proper answear ;-) as I don't want to brick the phone trying to find the right software to do what I want

Will MDA Vario(UK) work with US Tmob SIM in US?

Hi
I'm off to the US in a month. I've got an unlocked UK MDA Vario ROM 1.6.2.4 WWE Radio 01.12.10. I've ordered a couple of T-mobile prepaid sims from the US so that my family and I can keep in touch over there without being stung by rediculous roaming charges. I gather the Vario will work with my own sim over there but will it work if I put the US sim in it? or do I need to start changing the ROM of the phone?
(I've also got an M1000 (UK) and a couple of Siemens CL75 poppy phones which are also unlocked and should work over there with UK sims)
If there's no joy with my existing phones I'll just get a couple of cheap prepay phones when I'm over there but I'd prefer not to if I don't need to.
Many thanks
Regards
Twojags
twojags said:
Hi
I'm off to the US in a month. I've got an unlocked UK MDA Vario ROM 1.6.2.4 WWE Radio 01.12.10. I've ordered a couple of T-mobile prepaid sims from the US so that my family and I can keep in touch over there without being stung by rediculous roaming charges. I gather the Vario will work with my own sim over there but will it work if I put the US sim in it? or do I need to start changing the ROM of the phone?
(I've also got an M1000 (UK) and a couple of Siemens CL75 poppy phones which are also unlocked and should work over there with UK sims)
If there's no joy with my existing phones I'll just get a couple of cheap prepay phones when I'm over there but I'd prefer not to if I don't need to.
Many thanks
Regards
Twojags
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YUP !!!
It'll work perfectly,provided as you say its SIM unlocked,but if its not sim unlocked then I'm afraid,you won't be able to use t-mobile sims.Download the WST tool and verify the locked/unlocked status of your phone or insert sim of any other network in the phone other then the official sim you are using and check if it works or not.
Cheers!
Many thanks Zabardast_1.That's good news. Yes it works with any uk SIM in it (except 3 of course). I unlocked it a while back.
Kind regards
Twojags
It should work
Hello twojags,
I'm also using a SIM-unlock WIZARD (German version) with a US t-mobile prepaid-SIM.
It works without any problems...
Regards
Huibuh_1

HD2 O2 "branding"

Hi, my son has an O2 contract about to expire and ready for upgrade. He has quite a good phone, so, does not need a new one. I want to use this upgrade to give myself an HD2 to use on my own contract.
O2 have said they will unlock the phone for me to do this.
However, are there any other things I should look out for? I am told that O2 overlay the firmware and remove certain functions that would still be there in the normal HTC build, like, router facilty etc?
I could cut an internet deal with somebody like Carphone Warehouse etc as I am told they send out a complete untouched HTC build?
This is my first post, so, soon to be an HD2 owner, just want to ensure I get it right!!
Thanks in advance,
Dave
nashdm2 said:
Hi, my son has an O2 contract about to expire and ready for upgrade. He has quite a good phone, so, does not need a new one. I want to use this upgrade to give myself an HD2 to use on my own contract.
O2 have said they will unlock the phone for me to do this.
However, are there any other things I should look out for? I am told that O2 overlay the firmware and remove certain functions that would still be there in the normal HTC build, like, router facilty etc?
I could cut an internet deal with somebody like Carphone Warehouse etc as I am told they send out a complete untouched HTC build?
This is my first post, so, soon to be an HD2 owner, just want to ensure I get it right!!
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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I have an o2 phone, and to be honest I wouldn't worry about their customisations. The only thing missing is the wifi access point (even though they advertise it on their website). I moved quickly to cooked roms that have it in anyway, so no problem, or you could go for HSPL then a wwe official rom, which restores the wifi access point but keeps you on supposedly more stable (hmmm) roms.
The main downside to it is that you have to wait for o2 specific rom updates if you dn't want to use HSPL, (as with most providers), but to be honest if you are getting the phone for free, its a small price to pay.
O2 unlocking can take up to 28 days, AND you might have to call them again and they will say 'oh sorry, we'll do the unlock form again, it'l be another 28 days' (bastids) so don't expect to be able to use it on a different network straight away.
You can get it from O2, the phone would be SIM locked to O2 (which you can unlock) and likely to be vendor locked HTCs end as well. You can bypass this using HSPL to install any ROM you want but if you can get it from CPW as a completely unlocked phone I would do so as you can then do what you want with it
customisation is fine its basically a wallpaper which you can change.
nashdm2 said:
However, are there any other things I should look out for? I am told that O2 overlay the firmware and remove certain functions that would still be there in the normal HTC build, like, router facilty etc?
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I got my HD2 from O2 which is now unlocked via O2 and running a custom rom which has all the features that O2 removed and more.
I find custom roms give me better useability and most are better than stock for features so wasn't too concerned about branded or not, Just what price I could get the deal at.
The only problem I find is not being able to download updates from HTC on my serial# but as above I usually use custom anyway so don't bother me really.
THANKFULLY the HD2 from O2 is nothing like the Diamond from O2 which had an awful blue theme! The HD2 looks how a HD2 shoudld look, as mentioned all they change is the home screen wallpaper.
Thanks for the prompt replies, much appreciated.
The fact that O2 take 28 days to unlock, together with the "normal" ROM upgrade probs, that has convinced me to go the CPW route I think. There are better options price wise on the net, but with the CPW, I can collect on the upgrade date, retain the number, job done. I dont intend to make massive use of the router facility, just small time use in case i need to use my laptop where there is no normal connectivity, very light use and better than signing up for a monthly mobile broadband contract, or minimum monthly top ups on pay as you go (most of them are not actually PAYG due to this!!!)
Thanks, Dave
Just received my HD2 from o2.
It has 1.48 ROM. No O2 customisations whatsoever. I cannot see any O2 insignia. just an O2 app to send me the net/mms/sms settings.
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just an O2 app to send me the net/mms/sms settings.
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that is actually part of your sim card, not form o2. if you put a vodafone sim in you get a vodafone settings app there instead.(well except its locked, of course, hehe)
If an unlocked phone is important to you (it was to me) then CPW is the only way to go. All their phones come unlocked as standard.
Have you started reading up on here yet on all the tweaks and changes you can undertake? Don't want to burst your bubble but think carefully; if you are happy with spending time hunting out tweaks and tweaking the phone to the way you want it then the HD2 will satisfy all your desires in this direction.
If however you don't fancy doing that and just want a high end working phone then do consider whether the HD2 is really for you.
Good luck; hope it all works out.
ATB
WB
p.s. my o2 handset is sim unlocked. currently using it with my T-mobile PAYG sim until number transfers.
it also has everything enabled - even wifi router. 1.48 loaded. works well.

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