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Hi all I have just ordered a QTEK 2020 and am waiting eagerly for it...
At this point I have just one question: are software, drivers, applications, settings, roms and so on common for all of XDA II, MDAII, QTEK 2020, i-MATE and HTC? Should I look for specific QTEK 2020 software and drivers or is everything compatible? Are there specific QTEK 2020 ROMS or can I flash it with an XDA II rom for instance?
I'm asking this because there seems to be much more staff for XDA II and barely anything for the QTEK 2020.
Thanks.
Only had my Qtec 2 weeks, flashed the ROM to below, excellant I would recommend to anyone.
My new ROM details:Get this direct from QTEC http://www.qtek.nu/files/RUU172752WWE.zip
1.72.00WWE,
ROM date 03/15/04
Radio version 1.14.00
Protocol version 1337.24
ExtROM Version 1.66.130
History:My QTEC was a unlocked version from Expansys http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108269, I use Orange, I used the info from thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10866 specifically page 4-NPG (Thanks)
1. Get to bootloader (power+navi-key+reset)
2. Put device into cradle
2. Run update (the original from Qtek)
Took about 1 hour for whole process to complete! :?
I have seen a vast improvement in the general speed/stability for the device since ROM update, so i would recommend it.
I use TomTom 3.03 Navigator GPS software, with a TomTom Bluetooth reciever and a BlueTrek G2 headset at the same time no problem. I can even recieve calls while navigating!
With regards to Software you might want to look in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/FAQ for details of the differences between devices, mainly operating system ram etc.
Hope this helps you, this is the best all purpose gadjet I have ever had...
thanks gadjet, at least you're giving me the feeling that I haven't spent all that money for nothing. I have spent £399 on the qtek 2020, got it from expansys too, but unfortunately, i ordered it friday and on my order status they said that it's still at the central warehouse and I have to wait 3 more days for it to be shipped!! So I'll now have it on Wednesday or Thursday most probably!! One problem with the QTEK site is that it's all in Swedish or whatever language it is, and I don't understand anything other than Maltese, English, French and Italian :?
BTW, thanks especially for the link below gadjet, it basically says that apparently any software for any of the XDA II, MDA II, QTEK 2020 i-MATE and HIMALAYA are common, so if I don't find a spcific thing for the QTEK 2020 itself I may use one for the other brand names....
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gadjet said:
With regards to Software you might want to look in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/FAQ for details of the differences between devices, mainly operating system ram etc.
Hope this helps you, this is the best all purpose gadjet I have ever had...
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Glad to be of help
You won't be dissappointed when you do get it, it's a great pice of hardware..
Itried to become a member to the club i-mate.
But i can´t, because my device is called Qtek S100 not i-mate jam, It´s the same device, but the only says that i have to contact the store from where i bought it, but what can they do?????? Change the name on my device????
Conclusion:: Club i-mate sucks. :evil:
Club I-Mate is only for I-Mate Jam owners. Not for MDA Compact or Qtek owners.
Although clubimate does have many issues due to which you can fairly conclude that their support sucks, your problem however does not seem to be an issue with imate but rather with Qtek.
cubimate is for people who have bought an Imate branded device and you clearly have not. So you should be looking for a clubQtek (if one exists)... and if there is none then its the Qtek people you should be complaining to.
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
pelle68 said:
Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Imate and Qtek buy the magician from HTC and rebrand it. Since they sell independently and are rivals, Imate has no business serving Qtek customers.
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outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Ι understand what you say, but think about I-mate. Why allow you to enter in their forum, get their know how, their info, their applications, their firmware... when you haven't paid them for buying the S100???
It's all about branding... I also have a Qtek 2020, which is the MDA II... I cannot enter in the i-mate forum like you...
Don't bother though there is nothing important to find there... The firmware updates cannot be loaded to your S100. You can download them from an official Qtek website... We in Greece have one: www.qtek.gr
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outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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No, the difference is also in the content of the Extended ROM. For the Hardware, it is HTC that you can contact...
If you have a PC running Windows, you can't say that unix sucks, right ?
Fairiness in bussiness
You are all right!
I've learn the hard way that Qtek IS NOT iMate. I ordered an XDA-II from Expansys, that was out-of-stock and re-routed to be iMate, that ended up being a Qtek 2020, the price difference was even in my favour, Right?
W-R-O-N-G!!!
Qtek is almost a fake brand, (at least for my WWE version): No web page, no support, no upgrades, no forum, no----- NOTHING!
More than a year later, I gave up trying to get BT Handsfree support for my Qtek 2020, and get BT syncing at same time, so I ordered an iMate JAM from Expansys, Guess what? I just received a call from Expansys, offering me to switch to a Qtek S100!
I REFUSED!
I prefer to wait two more weeks rather than feel myself again in the wild, with no one "official" to help (Thanks ONLY to XDA developers and you guys here)
Conclussions:
HTC really sucks, since they are the ones who know how "hadicapped" their devices are, and provide no help.
Qtek sucks too, since they are making money for branding the devices and letting them unsupported.
Expansys sucks a bit too, though just for being un-informative and not advising their custommers that "manufacturing" is part of the thing, but "support is paramount" when you are talking about really new tech products that are going to need a lot of tweaking.
iMate might have their share too, but obviously not for my choosing of my Qtek 2020.
And iMate is even cheaper!
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Mythozz said:
pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Ι understand what you say, but think about I-mate. Why allow you to enter in their forum, get their know how, their info, their applications, their firmware... when you haven't paid them for buying the S100???
It's all about branding... I also have a Qtek 2020, which is the MDA II... I cannot enter in the i-mate forum like you...
Don't bother though there is nothing important to find there... The firmware updates cannot be loaded to your S100. You can download them from an official Qtek website... We in Greece have one: www.qtek.gr
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Any chance you could tell us what is new in the firmware available on http://www.qtek.gr/s100_firmware.html?
It seems to be of a later version than that of my swedish Qtek, and I would very much like to know what is in the update so I know if I should bother calling Brightpoint and ask them to put it on their web site.
Thanks!
Babelfished:
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Qtek S100 Firmware Update
ATTENTION! WITH THE UPGRADE ARE EXTINGUISHED THE DATA OF YOUR APPLIANCE! CONTACTS, PROGRAMS, SOUNDS OF CALL, PICTURES, VIDEO THAT CAN EXIST IN YOUR APPLIANCE, WILL ERASE!
Who can use Greek?
The Greek publication has been manufactured by the Ace-Hellas. The Greek publication is been disposed only for appliances that have been bought from the Ace-Hellas or her network of resellers.
What it needs I am careful?
The Qtek fortj'zej when becomes the upgrade. It should you attend it is completely fortjsme'no front you begin the upgrade.
That does become the upgrade firmware?
Attend to have passed the Activesync and exists communication with the computer. It is proposed you use some computer with Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Terminate any program you have open! Afterwards simply you execute the file that you lowered/you will lower and you follow the directives in your screen. If you face problem with the upgrade you try in some other computer. When it finishes the upgrade it will be supposed you realise hard-reset (the photograph in the end of upgrade in your computer, you shows how him makes).
I began the upgrade and in the middle to me it was cut the current and extinguished the computer (or more simply failed the upgrade).
Do not worry. The Qtek has his bootloader therefore it will be supposed after a reset you see white screen (the screen is not litted up therefore sees carefully from near distance) and is entered Serial.
1. You remove the Qtek from the base. Remove the battery for 30 seconds and xanatopoceti'ste.
2. You begin your computer regularly
3. You activate the Qtek and place in the base. The clue Serial should change in USB.
4. You execute again the upgrade.
I began the upgrade for 2nd time but failed again.
Try in some other computer. Try in computer with Windows 2000 or XP. The upgrade does not probably work rightly in Windows 95,98,ME. Also a other factor are the problematic USB Controllers (eg VIA)
Exist some does background for what it changed in the new publication?
We unfortunately do not have the changes that realises the Qtek. It follows however background for Greek:
1.1.1 (03/02/05)
- With publication 1.06 is corrected the problem with the MMS in the network of Cosmote. - Correction of orthographic errors and other errors in fo'rmes.
- Automatic regulations GPRS Internet/MMS and on the 4 networks of mobile telephony. In the Q-Telecom exists only service MMS. Attention! It should you have activated your services from pa'roho'!
- Choice permanent report in the SMS. Can activate the possibility in each new SMS is preselected the report. This him you will find in the Regulations in the choice for Language.
1.0.0 - Initial Publication (20/12/04)
pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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You mean Nissan and Toyota aren't the same? They're both transportation devices, aren't they?
Same goes for Qtek branded phones & I-Mate branded phones. The guy who started this thread is pissed because he owns a Qtek branded phone, yet can't log into the I-Mate website to get support for it? Come on.
Toyota and Nissan are by far more different from eachother than the Qtek and iMate.
If you need to use cars for your example you might want to go for something like the Opel Agila and Suzuki Wagon R. Built by the same company, looks identical, but marketed by different companies.
Dopod 838 is the chinese version of the HTC wizard, it looks very nice to me compare with the Qtek/imate HTC wizard. Nevertheless, it's only available in chinese ROM....
Dopod 388 links
http://www.dopod.hk/product/pro.aspx?Product_Class_id=4&Product_id=18
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=2347
The one thing I really like about it is the fact that the soft keys are placed further away from the call & end-call keys. I keep pressing the soft key accidently when I try to end a call - it's pretty annoying!
Rajesh
ouch that dopod was really ugly =) love my qtek 9100 =D
Isn't this just the HTC WIZA100 series design? Same internally as the WIZA200, but in a different plastic case, as used in the cheap Cingular version?
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000217064619/
Actually, the Dopod 838 is available in both Traditonal Chinese and English ROMs. I live in HK (Australian) and have played with an English version Dopod 838.
Hope this helps. I personally prefer the look of the I-Mate/QTEK version.
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Isn't this just the HTC WIZA100 series design? Same internally as the WIZA200, but in a different plastic case, as used in the cheap Cingular version?
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000217064619/
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so is the Qtek 9100 has a plastic case or metal one ????
Both (the front bezel is alloy). But if the WZA100/Cingular 8125 is $100 cheaper, who cares?
1st impression of Dopod - Sony P900(i) & Urgly...
That's why I bought a K-JAM via eXpansys even no official support center in HK & no interest free installment. :twisted: :twisted:
Want to clarify: Dopod 838 is Wizard, and K-JAM, Qtek 9100, etc - are Prodigy. Dopod keyboard is much like Universal keyboard, IMHO better then Prodigy.
Want to clarify: Dopod 838 is Wizard, and K-JAM, Qtek 9100, etc - are Prodigy. Dopod keyboard is much like Universal keyboard, IMHO better then Prodigy.
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Want to clarify: Dopod 838 is Wizard, and K-JAM, Qtek 9100, etc - are Prodigy. Dopod keyboard is much like Universal keyboard, IMHO better then Prodigy.
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True, the Dopod/Cingular is the "original" Wizard design. Not convinced on the keyboard though. It might look nicer, but the photos show that, unlike the Universal, the keys are totally flat. To me that suggests zero tactile feedback, and so a high risk of pressing adjacent keys,
a) because there is no space between them, and
b) because of the lack of a "dome", no way of feeling that your finger is central on the key.
i like the cingular/dopod one more but i have a couple of questions. anyone know of the cingular release date for it? cuz i know it was supposed to be mid november then they kept delaying it now some one said feb 1. also why is the dopod $950 on ebay and the k-jam around 700$? also is the dopod 838 802.11b or g like the k-jam. one last thing anyone have a pic with the dopod/cingular model next to the k-jam? because it looks like the dopod is smaller.[/quote][/code][/list]
If I buy a M5000 and put the new imate rom on it will it be the "EXACT" same as a JasJar or Qtek etc...
If you put the newest Rom on all of the devices will they be the exact same as each other - other than the Logo on the outside of the device??
Thanks in advance
If you installed the same ROM on all the devices, yes... They aren't technically any different - Just the providers ROM's differ
thankyou - I would like to purchase one on ebay and have heard the qtek 9000 is better than the m5000 etc... and wanted to know if it mattered once the roms were the same.
The only actual physical difference between the brandings (AFAIK) is the printed logo.
SPV m5000s are usually locked to Orange so you have to use Buzz's unlocker before you can put another brand of ROM in them.
Hi Y´all!
As I understand it the HTC Wizard came in two different forms; Wizard & Prodigy (or Wizard 100 and Wizard 110 as I´ve read they are sometimes called), with the groups being as follows:
Wizard:
i-Mate K-Jam
O2 XDA Mini
Orange SPV M3000
Qtek 9100
T-Mobile MDA Vario
Prodigy:
Dopod 838
Cingular 8125
Vodafone VPA Compact II
What is really the difference between the two of these groups (besides the slight difference in shape), are there any at all?
BR Magnus
Wallengren said:
Hi Y´all!
As I understand it the HTC Wizard came in two different forms; Wizard & Prodigy (or Wizard 100 and Wizard 110 as I´ve read they are sometimes called), with the groups being as follows:
Wizard:
i-Mate K-Jam
O2 XDA Mini
Orange SPV M3000
Qtek 9100
T-Mobile MDA Vario
Prodigy:
Dopod 838
Cingular 8125
Vodafone VPA Compact II
What is really the difference between the two of these groups (besides the slight difference in shape), are there any at all?
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As far as I can see, they are actually the same (including the shape). HTC Prodigy was the original Code Name which was then changed to Wizard on its release (like Hermes is TyTn). Certain vendors may have the case recoloured (QTek) or have it slightly changed (O2 has the O2 logo embossed on it), but they are essentially the same.
ok so I accidentily mixed up the names of the two groups, according to geekzone (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/smartdevices.asp?phonemodelid=17 && http://www.geekzone.co.nz/smartdevices.asp?phonemodelid=156) the prodigy are the five devices in the top list and the wizard are the other three.
Plus they do look a bit different as seen in these pics:
cingular 8125:
http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/cingular-8125.jpg
qtek 9100:
http://www.joncollins.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/qtek-9100.jpg
The thing is that we develop an application running on these devices and now my development crew tell me that our application is handled differently by these two groups...
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The thing is that we develop an application running on these devices and now my development crew tell me that our application is handled differently by these two groups...
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From what I have read, the K-Jam and the XDA Mini S ARE both Wizards. Of this I am fairly certain. (They look like the one you posted from joncollins.net)
The HTC Prodigy in most pictures looks like the Wizard and in the Specs sounds like the wizard. In one set (on www.phones2udirect.co.uk) it says the Wizard has Windows PPC 2005 while the Prodigy has WM5 (and I know my "Wizard" has WM5).
The images of those with a different case seem to be few and far between (inlcuding the ones on the geekzone.co.nz pages you posted which have a different shell, but otherwise the specs are the same). Try Google images for more, but they all seem to look like my phone (XDA Mini S) too.
I'd recommend getting it to work on a standard Wizard (which seems the most prevalent design) and if someone can say that there is a problem with Phone X, get one in as there seems to be confusion over which is which (and there is also the HTC Prophet, just to try and confuse people more....).
{Edit} Maybe this will help -
European products - http://www.europe.htc.com/products/
Japanes product - http://www.japan.htc.com/product.htm
American Products - http://www.america.htc.com/products/default.html
The american one seems to have the phone you are on about and the T-Mobile MDA then everything else below that is something else I have not seen before.... but they are actually a different machine.{/edit}
thanks for the answer, very descriptive