TT5 is coming for sure !
Checkout it out here ....
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtom-mobile-5.php
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=17753
Comes with built-in FULL postcode support = SWEET
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Missed this: http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=75&Language=1
Do they have an online service with daily or at least weekly map updates that doesn't cost a fortune?
If not - why bother.
Which company offers this for Sweden?
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Which company offers this for Sweden?
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As far as I know - no one offers what I am asking for in any market :-(
Before it is available a GPS is just not worth the price compared to a standard map for car navigation. On a boat or in the wilderness - sure, these environments don't change that often.
Navigated from northern Sweden to Barcelona with TomTom3 without ever finding a broken route. It even kept us clear from the autobahn in Germany, because you can't drive a light truck with a light trailer on it on Sundays.. Strange.. Had to re-route manually though, but it sure got us where we wanted and we were back on autobahn about 5 minutes after the ban ended.
I agree that they should offer updates, but once every quarter would be enough, I think.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/tomtom-navigator-pda-5.php
Review of Tomtom5 on PPC and PalmOS.
Loboman said:
Navigated from northern Sweden to Barcelona with TomTom3 without ever finding a broken route. It even kept us clear from the autobahn in Germany, because you can't drive a light truck with a light trailer on it on Sundays.. Strange.. Had to re-route manually though, but it sure got us where we wanted and we were back on autobahn about 5 minutes after the ban ended.
I agree that they should offer updates, but once every quarter would be enough, I think.
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I guess you still followed at least b-roads?
To follow b-roads I don't need a GPS, my old map will do just as well as long as I have my wife next to me.
It is when there is a sudden change to the route because of road works or tragic jams I need a GPS to suggest an alternative route. But with maps and traffic information older than ten to fifteen minutes this is of little help.
I think 200sek (£15) is about what one month of constantly updated maps for one country is worth for a private user. And with constant I mean at least every 15 minutes.
B-roads? Hehe, We were directed on roads the Germans themselves didn't know existed But without a doubt, they were really fast when going from one bigger road to another.
I bet you'll not find those 15 minute map updates this decade. Traffic info in one thing (which TomTom offers, although not in Sweden), but changed maps.. I think not..
Ok, you don't need to actually update the entire map every fifteen minutes. But you should at least get an update everytime there has been a change to the real world that affects the map. And it should definitely be updated with accurate speed limits.
If you don't like it don't buy it!
I personally think it's a usefull tool, I'm currently looking to relocate to a new area that I don't know and have found TomTom a fantastic aid when driving around cities you don't know looking for property.
Just put the post code in and drive from door to door
Oh and if you subscribe to the Traffic service you can get Live Traffic information delivered to your device by GPRS........ well you can in the UK anyway
UK and Holland has the traffic info only..
Accurate speed limits would be great. I don't know any program that offers this though. About the map updating, It's TeleAtlas who buys the data from local companies and sells it to the makers of GPS programs. I doubt even the local companies update very often, but I read somewhere that TeleAtlas wants users to tell them about errors in the maps so that they can update and have more accurate maps for the next release.
I think the main problem is the price model. Instead of selling cumulative updates at an affordable subscription cost, whenever ther is a new version of the map you have to buy an entirely new map! This is how it used to work in the old days, when maps had to be printed in books and put on a shelf in a shop.
And why are the maps by country or region? Give me the entire thing and let me pay for what I use! Not until I view or route through a part of the map on the device should I be charged for it.
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Hi,
I'm going for a short trip to London (sept 2007) a few day's walking in this beautiful city, and of course the Ameo will joins me to use as guide or take some pictures.
My questions are:
- Are there any recommendations for external power for the Ameo, I mean?
when I’m there you do a lot of things with the device (picture's tom-tom e.t.)
this will use the battery a lot in one day, I’m thinking to buy a spare battery
or an external battery, what is the best option so far?
- Some of you come from the UK self, are there some interest places in London to go to take some pictures?.
Thanks A Lot..
just buy a 2dollar US->UK adaptor and charge it at hotel or wherever.
surely you're not going to walk around with Ameo using it to direct you at every street corner ? i.e. have it on all day.
personally, i'd leave the Ameo at home, take a decent camera instead, and use a free 'tube' map to walk around and see the sights. No they're not 100% geographically accurate, but its hard to get lost using them.
This way, you might see some of London, rather than just the ameo screen
Check out the Millenium wheel, or London eye! Worth the trip, book in advance.
While your down there, St Pauls, Houses of Parliament (Big Ben) and Tate Modern are all nearby...(Try the slide in the Tate!, google it)
By all means go to Oxford street, but that and Totenham Court road are a waste of time now. Nothing but overpriced tourist traps that you would do well to avoid buying things in.
Check out a show in the West End, Visit Harrods in Knightsbridge, walk along Hyde Park and there is the Science Museum in Kensington (Exhibition Road). There are also about 3 other museums around that area. You can see the 10,000 year clock in the Science museum.
Go to Nottinghill Gate on a Sunday Morning and check out the Antiques Market/Street fair.
Above all, get an OYSTER card and pre-pay on it, will save you LOADS of money. Use the bus where you can so you dont miss the sights. London isnt actualy that big and the tube is hot dirty overpriced and you miss everything above ground.
If you wanna share some Ameo software give me a shout, im a London Local.
Don't catch the Tube, you'll see nothing! (It's underground) Plus your Ameo won't pick up a signal down there. London Busses are fantastic! They go everywhere and they're really cheap. It takes some working out, but once you figure out how to read the bus map at most bus stop, then you'll never look back. Best seat is the front of the top deck. If you like roller coasters, catch the No. 23.
I agree, get the Oyster card first.
Also, if you're interested in graffiti. Head to the Brick Lane Markets. There's a stall there selling a guide book to Banksy street art. The book contains a number of walking tours with GPS references for each piece of graffiti! Perfect for your Ameo!
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London Itinerary - Get a bus
tvrman said:
Hi,
- Some of you come from the UK self, are there some interest places in London to go to take some pictures?.
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Some place are worth pre-booking, London Eye has big queues and you can circumvent at least the ticket buying one by pre-booking (may even be cheaper I can't recall.)
Tate modern slide installation - you need to book timed tickets for that if you wnat to go on a big slide, not my thing and may actually have finished by now. If you do go and artistically inclined there is a neat (and free) modern art gallery carrying a little picasso and dali.
My recommendation would be to get one of the tour buses first (open top for good weather!) Get on one with a live commentary if you can. It will help orient you. They do offer discounted tickets that beat the queues for many big attractions. Bus tickets allow hop on and off at landmarks over a 24 hour period. Then you can go back and visit in detail the things you want to see.
Thinking about what else do you normally like to do, that might help you decide what you like to see in london, parks, museums, landmarks, hard rock cafe etc. How much do you want to pay or not.
One of the places I love in London is the free British library - you can see original manuscripts from many famous people like leonardo da vinci - a real connection with the past.
hi everybody,
Thanks for the info , i'll will take the info for my trip.
The Oyster card is indeed an great tip! i'll certainly buy one.
Should it be a smart decision if I buy a pre-paid card from T-mobile to use it for GPRS?,
my current provider in the Dutch is T-mobile but to use it from other country's it's expensive.
Thanks
Buy an Orange Payg card.
If you get a GPRS data card (not 3g) you can pay £1 gbp for all day GPRS unlimited data.
You can get the card for as little as £1 from some shops, I think orange store itself charges up to £5
Not sure on how T-Mob do payg data.
I dunno about London being a nice place - there are plenty of other 'better' European Cities. But as a tourist, you should enjoy yourself!
London is pretty easy to get around - Id recommend an A-Z on London, or just get hold of a detailed map. Id go with the Oyster Card as well, just saves so much hassle queuing for tickets e.t.c. and its cheaper. The Underground is OK providing you're not travelling at Rush-Hour, but its true, you don't get to see things. Ideal if you need to get to a certain bit of London though.
I wonder if anyone does a USB connected Solar Cell - you could stick it to a backpack and trickle charge your Ameo whilst your walking around. Its something I've thought about.
RE the data connection, see if T-mob do a free/discounted access deal on Wifi access points - there are LOADS of them in London and most allow access from Partners. I've got a BT Openzone agreement, which i've used all over the UK (including T-Mob AP's) and in France.
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I wonder if anyone does a USB connected Solar Cell - you could stick it to a backpack and trickle charge your Ameo whilst your walking around.
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Alternative I've seen are "mobile recharging stations" appearing in Easy Internet shops and the like. They have a bunch a small lockers each with a selection of recharging cables. I guess it costs money though.
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I dunno about London being a nice place - there are plenty of other 'better' European Cities. But as a tourist, you should enjoy yourself!
London is pretty easy to get around - Id recommend an A-Z on London, or just get hold of a detailed map. Id go with the Oyster Card as well, just saves so much hassle queuing for tickets e.t.c. and its cheaper. The Underground is OK providing you're not travelling at Rush-Hour, but its true, you don't get to see things. Ideal if you need to get to a certain bit of London though.
I wonder if anyone does a USB connected Solar Cell - you could stick it to a backpack and trickle charge your Ameo whilst your walking around. Its something I've thought about.
RE the data connection, see if T-mob do a free/discounted access deal on Wifi access points - there are LOADS of them in London and most allow access from Partners. I've got a BT Openzone agreement, which i've used all over the UK (including T-Mob AP's) and in France.
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Ears prick up "France" did you say.
Where abouts did you go? Im heading to the South of France on a work trip very soon so would be interested in how it was using your phone out there.
When i got my Ameo the nice chap who served me mentioned i could text a number and get a username and password to access Wifi hotspots in Mcdonalds, Starbucks etc
Gonna give it a go tonight. Apparently its what you'd normally pay £10 a month for.
Happy with that!
I only went to Calais for the day, to stock up on supplies
Didn't use the 'phone' part, simply because I'd not got it internationally enabled, but did manage to jump on to several wifi points around Calais, at the terminal e.t.c. without difficult. So Useful to have Tomtom Western Europe Map installed! And quite good standing on the deck on the ferry and tracking where we were in the channel! The ferry does about 21mph don't u know?
I've got a BT Openzone subscription as I'm out and about a lot, but I'm gonna cancel it when my 12months is up.
I sat home yesterday trying to decide if I should make the move and pick up a x7501. Compusa had 3 of them in stock in Delaware and the customer service rep I spoke to on the phone said they were priced at $899. Spending that kind if money a couple days before Christmas would definitely get me in trouble. I spent half the day looking at youtube videos of ppl reviewing this ultimate gadget freak toy. I read and re-read threads all over this board some good some bad.
At about 5:00 I decided it was time to go get my fix. Compusa is 45 miles away and I made the trip in traffic in less than 30 minutes. I walked into Compusa $899 in hand (no tax in DE) excited and anxious, weaving through the gift givers with nothing but contempt. GET OUTTA MY WAY I NEED MY FIX! I'm at the cell phone counter looking for a sales rep, cause I know what I want and I want it now. No need to look around no need to browse. All the dealers are busy so I decide to play with the store model until I can get help. I then come out of my tunnel vision to realize that this Compusa is going out of business and the Advantage is marked 30% off. OMG! $899 down to $629. OK no more waiting for a rep I need this thing now! I grab a rep, drop my $629 and I'm out.
My decision (see my other thread) to get the Advantage was based on 2 things. 1: GPS and 2: 3G Internet. I need a GPS unit and I wanted features comparable to the Garmin 760 but did not want to spend that kind of money on a device that did one thing well. Navigating. I use Garmin XT on my Tilt now and the 400mhz can't draw the map fast enough for everyday GPS use, plus the screen is not big enough. With 3G this is the perfect set up for me. I got my corporate email while on the road, VPN access, contacts and calender, virtually unlimited note pad, traffic updates, word, excel, pdf's and while I'm waiting for Verizon to show up to a vendor meet, I got Orb. I'm in gadget bliss right now.
For the price I paid and for what I need, the Advantage ($629) kills the Garmin 760 ($699.99). Thanks guys you helped me alot and I am very very satisfied!
BTW I don't recall anyone saying how crisp and clear the screen looks. This 5" VGA looks amazing while navigating. Now I just need a mount.
Hey there,
is there any free navigation solution out there? There is a german program called oe-navi, but it's not customed for TP2 yet.
Is tehre any compareable program, especially for germany, suisse, austria and norway?
Bye,
Christohper
Google Maps
But two be honest: if you want a good and working navigation --> go and buy iGO8 from NavNGo. Got mine from www.bitmart.eu and this soft is really great!
If you have an unlocked HTC version of TP2, your phone came with a special CoPilot offer: http://www.alk.com/htc/
Amaze gps. It's pretty slow but it works and it is free. It also has a pretty good coverage.
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Amaze gps. It's pretty slow but it works and it is free. It also has a pretty good coverage.
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As far as I remember, the offer was (in the UK at least) for a free 15-day trial of CoPilot ... is it really worth the effort?
Looking for the same solution!!
Nav4all is free until 1-1-2010
http://nav4all.com/site2/nav4all.com/index.php
free to use until 01/01/10 or free to download until then?
Bing has turn by turn directions, unlike google maps.
I recently tried Waze, Nav4All, and Amaze. While they technically worked, they were all slow, had routing problems (IE: driving down a major road, they would tell me to turn left into a housing area, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, then turn left back onto the major road), and in my opinion, they all had cumbersome interfaces.
I just bought Copilot Live 8 last night, and it is vastly superior. If you are in the US like I am, it is on sale for $20 (the sale ends tonight) at http://www.alk.com/copilot/
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I recently tried Waze, Nav4All, and Amaze. While they technically worked, they were all slow, had routing problems (IE: driving down a major road, they would tell me to turn left into a housing area, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, then turn left back onto the major road), and in my opinion, they all had cumbersome interfaces.
I just bought Copilot Live 8 last night, and it is vastly superior. If you are in the US like I am, it is on sale for $20 (the sale ends tonight) at http://www.alk.com/copilot/
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I bought the copilot since the reviews were generally good. Now I'll just need to wait for my phone to arrive
Excellent bit of kit
I've got to agree with shdwphnx, the TP2 combined with Copilot8 works brilliantly, shame that traffic is not available for UK yet.
I just use google maps it works fine for me and is most importantly accurate and free.
I had a ROM with a co-pilot trial on it. Unfortunately the ROM wasn't that good. I switched to NRG ROM which is great but now i want to install the co-pilot trial. There is one on the HTC website but only for HTC TP2 - i have T-mobile US version. Any idea where i can get a trial?
Ant Trials available on the Garmin solution?
just install that one and it should work. The beauty of having wm os is that program can work on different hardware as long as the operating system matches. It's the same as installing an app on a dell machine or hp machine.
I purchased CoPilot during the Thanksgiving weekend when they had it on sale for $19.99. I'm very pleased with it so far on my TP2. I think it's $34.99 or something like that now. Watch their website for specials from time to time.
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just install that one and it should work. The beauty of having wm os is that program can work on different hardware as long as the operating system matches. It's the same as installing an app on a dell machine or hp machine.
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Unfortunately to download you need to enter your serial number and it won't accept the serial numbers from Tmobile TP2, only the HTC branded ones. Tmous want's you to sign up for there $10/month service! This is why I'm looking for a cab.
Co-Pilot 8 is on sale - just $19.99. Decided to give it a go. It works great! Sure, Garmin or TomTom may have a couple of extra nice-to-have's, but they are $100. For the basic get me from A to B and help me find places, Co-Pilot can't be beat!
It will all be downhill for TomTom, Garmin and all those other gps companies once Google Releases Google Navigation for Windows mobile like they did for the droid.
TomTom and Garmin's stock fell the month google released google navigation on the droid.
I just bought co pilot.
I am having issues with it. Anyone else?
It tells me to turn as, or after I am turning... (found this out while testing it, thankfully) I have changed the turn warning to the max.. but still no good. This is no good if I am relying on it for directions, I am bound to get lost. Also, the distance to a turn is always way off.. I can be right at a corner where I am supposed to turn, at a stop sign, and the distance to the turn will say 150 feet ahead. and it keeps telling me "Make right turn just ahead" even though I am right there.
Was testing it again today, and it had me go in circles for 10 minutes! No Lie!! It kept saying "Make a right, then another right" I know, I didn't have to... I just wanted to see how long it would stay in that loop.. finally I had to break it by going a direction it did not tell me to go.. then it recalculated the route.
Frustrating!!!
Haven't had this trouble on mine. Have you had Copilot check for all of the updates inside the application?
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It will all be downhill for TomTom, Garmin and all those other gps companies once Google Releases Google Navigation for Windows mobile like they did for the droid.
TomTom and Garmin's stock fell the month google released google navigation on the droid.
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I don't think so, they have one HUGE advantage over Google, they work without cell service. That's pretty important up here where I live (Northwestern California), and in many areas across the west.
Good point. I wasn't thinking about that since I am in Southern California and there is basically service everywhere here.
I guess it depends on where you live.
But that Co-Pilot giving the wrong directions thing scares me. Imagine if you were going to an area you don't know well
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Good point. I wasn't thinking about that since I am in Southern California and there is basically service everywhere here.
I guess it depends on where you live.
But that Co-Pilot giving the wrong directions thing scares me. Imagine if you were going to an area you don't know well
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Well, I was born (Riverside) and raised (West Covina. Proud Grad of the Covina HS Class of 1990) in SoCal, and I know they have plenty of dead spots in the mountains and deserts, but in the urban L.A./OC/IE area, you're definitely right.
I have yet to find a program that doesn't make mistakes, especially in remote or very rural areas, or in very new housing developments. I travel extensively across NorCal for work (everything from just north of Santa Rosa to the Oregon Border, and everything from just north of Sacramento to the Oregon Border and northeast to the Nevada Border), everything from Redding at 100,000 to the middle of nowhere, and have had GPS Programs and even dedicated units be off on occasion, sometimes by miles. The thing is, these programs assume an address should be at a certain point on the map, and most times it is, but sometimes it can pinpoint it at the wrong location, and they can be pretty frustating if you're in a remote area with few or no people around to ask. Or a development can be so new that it's not in any map database yet.
@ ryotgz: No I haven't checked from with in the program for an update... that did dawn on me since I just bought it! LOL I will give it a try. I have contacted ALK (the distributors of co pilot) but have yet to hear back from them....
@ Cali-railroader and kmx:
I understand that an occasional wrong direction, especially in rural areas, is going to happen. It is technology afterall, and none of it is perfect. However, these issues have all happened in busy, and old, metro areas in the mid atlantic region.
I noticed recently that Google Maps (web version) no longer has a copyright for Tele Atlas showing on the Canadian maps. I've also noticed some increased colour/detail in the maps. Previously when scrolling around the Tele Atlas copyright notice would show up as soon as you crossed over from the US border into Canada.
I believe this is an indication that Google Navigation is going to be opening up in Canada soon because map licensing was thought to be the reason it was only available in the US (and now the UK). Turn-by-turn navigation wasn't permitted with the Tele Atlas licence. It looks like the map data for Canada is now all Google's, so it should only be a matter of time until the switch is flipped.
This is just a guess of course, so don't get mad at if you go out and buy the car dock in anticipation and then later find out I'm completely wrong...
brut maps works good with google maps.... no need to wait... dont have to root your phone or and anything its just a .apk
Brut is pretty nice, but it has issues and the voice guidance is delayed.
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Brut is pretty nice, but it has issues and the voice guidance is delayed.
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yer im useing the new one today and it tells me at the last second to turn is that normal... is there anyway to change it
No, that's just how it is. Guess it's a side-effect of modding the program.
I remember checking a few weeks ago when the UK navigation was released, and it was a mix of Google and TeleAtlas copyrights in Vancouver and Toronto. With only TeleAtlas in Calgary where I live as well as the less populated areas.
Now I can't find any place with TeleAtlas
Can't wait.
Hell ya! I travel to the states every other weekend and immediately sold my garmin gps when I got the N1. You can imagine my surprise and confusion when I crossed the border and I thought my new phone already **** the bed :-(
Bring the nav then voice next please
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Hell ya! I travel to the states every other weekend and immediately sold my garmin gps when I got the N1. You can imagine my surprise and confusion when I crossed the border and I thought my new phone already **** the bed :-(
Bring the nav then voice next please
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Yes yes Google Voice > Navigation. But I'd love to have both in Canada
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Yes yes Google Voice > Navigation. But I'd love to have both in Canada
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Those of us with 403 area codes have had Google Voice for a while now. Unfortunately all of Google's numbers are US based and thus long distance.