I just bought a SX56 and was using it with T-mobile service. I switched to Cingular and when I put my sim card in, I can't get a signal. I have tried to change the gsm bands but even this doesn't work. Can someone please help because I love the features of this phone and don't want to go back to a normal phone.
Have you unlocked it?
Yes it's unlocked. I've tried it on all bandwidths and it won't detect cingular network. When I manually do it it won't save or work when I put cingular's network at the top of the list.
Cingular operates on 850/1900 and some world phones on 1800 to. What is the problem I may have. Can I not use my SX56 with cingular?
you should be able to use a t-mo radio stack on a SX56 to get signal with Cingular GSM. You may have change the radio stack if you are still using AT&T radio stack. Cingular is still converting TDMA to GSM in some areas. While to-mo has allways been GSM in the US. Rare poss explination: AT&T selling GSM SX56 in your area that they have recently gone GSM in. You a t-mo customer bought a gsm phone and used it on another gsm providers network, then attempted to switch to Cingular which may not have gone GSM in your area. If you went into a Cingular store and they gave you a SIM card they should have gsm coverage. If this is the case I would bet your radio stack is still AT&T's so try changing to t0-mo stack and see what you get. Search this forum for links under ROM upgrades or try yorch.net.
Since we are on the subject oes anyone know where to get a generic worldwide radio stack for the XDA1 like on the i-Mate(s)? :?
I tried to download radio stacks from yorch.net and get error pages. Any other ideas? I lost and I really like this phone.
bigjusee said:
Cingular operates on 850/1900 and some world phones on 1800 to. What is the problem I may have. Can I not use my SX56 with cingular?
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It depends on the area you are in for Cingular, most of their GSM operations are on 850 which the SX56 won't work on. If you are in the Carolina's I know it will work, but the other areas outside of here depend on the area. If you ask Cingular about it they will probably tell you it won't work. I would just ask Cingular what freqs. the towers in your area support. That will tell you for sure whether it will work or not.
Siemens sx 56.... cingular
Same here.... My sx56 reads "NO SERVICE"... I was not sure if it was the sim or not so I took it to a local Cingular Dealer and the tecnician took my sim and inserted it to a Cingular cell phone and the service came on... Inserted the sim back in the Sx56 and again "NO SERVICE"
Things Ive tried ....
- reset the SX56
- went to boot loader mode (ver ver 5.22) and did the GSM Audio test and this produced a load audible sound
- went back to the bootloader mode and selected the GSM 900, 900/1800, and 1900 and still "NO SERVICE"
- then I thought.... could it be locked? inserted a Tmobile sim again and the service came on... NOT LOCKED
MAN... WHATS going on!?!?!? previous to this Cingular service I had Tmobile which worked like a breeze... WAP and ALL!!!!
Any IDEAS anyone???
AND a BIG CONGRATS>>>>>> to the developers putting all this effort on this product and on such a COOL looking web site.
Rom version: 4.00.05 ENG
ROM date: 06/05/03
radio version: A.20.10
protocol version: 324e4
XDA1 issues with Cingular
OK, here is my life story:
I purchased the XDA from ATT Wireless but want to use it on Cingular, so I unlocked the XDA and it working fine with the Cingular SIM. (However, the network XDA picked up is T-Mobile and not Cingular). And the XDA works great in my hometown Houston, Texas.
I then travel to Indianapolis, Indiana, as soon as I got out of the plane, switched on the XDA, and got a signal for celluar service. Great so far.
When I get to my office which is 60 miles southeast of Indianapolis, I got no signal. When inquire the available network, I can see several Cingular networks listed on top of the drop-down list, and then ATT Wireless, and then T-Mobile, but the XDA won't be able to register to any of these networks??? Then funny thing is this is the place where I signed up with Cingular service.
When I contact Cingular, the representative said that the XDA appear to work while roaming onto other networks, but it will not in the local Cingular service area. She said that my PDA phone is not compatible with the local network. Is this possible?
Originally, my RS version is A.20.10, I then upgrade to A.33.02 in hoping to resolve the problem, but no luck.
I'm now trying to upgrade my RS to T-Mobile 6.24.00 from yorch.net but when unzip the file, it asks for a password. Does anyone know what the password is???
Am I going in the right direction to make my XDA usable in a Cingular network?
I am having the same issue getting my unlocked T-Mobile PPCPE to register on a network when using a Cingular Wireless SIM in the Atlanta area.
The phone can see both T-Mo and AT&T networks when using the Cingular SIM, but it will not register one either one of them...? It does not see the Cingular network however, as I believe that Cingular is using the 850 band, with roaming agreement in place with T-Mo and AT&T.
I am using the WM2003 ROM and radio versions.
Any ideas why it will not register on the T-Mo or AT&T network, even though it "sees" them...?
I am having the same issue getting my unlocked T-Mobile PPCPE to register on a network when using a Cingular Wireless SIM in the Atlanta area.
The phone can see both T-Mo and AT&T networks when using the Cingular SIM, but it will not register one either one of them...? It does not see the Cingular network however, as I believe that Cingular is using the 850 band, with roaming agreement in place with T-Mo and AT&T.
I am using the WM2003 ROM and radio versions.
Any ideas why it will not register on the T-Mo or AT&T network, even though it "sees" them...?
I am a Cingular customer care rep and I can tell you that the XDA will not work in the Indiana or Atlants markets. Reason being is that those markets are 850 and has no signs of being 1900 atleast until the AT&T buyout happens.
I am in South Mississippi and when we go GSM it will be 1900 but if I travel back to New Orleans I get no Cingular service because it again is another 850 market.
At this point the only 1900 GSM markets we have in the Southeast US is the Carolinas, Mobile, and South MS. Everyone else is 850.
Many thanks for the response. The curious thing to me is that if my device can accutally "see" the T-Mo and AT&T networks when it has a Cingular SIM installed, why won't it let me register on those 1900 Band networks? It seems that the Cingular SIM is somehow locked to the 850band and prevents the device connecting to any other network.... Is it because that where a Cingular 850band network exists, Cingular does not have roaming agreements in place with the other providers in that area? Do you know if the Cingular SIM could the SIM be programmed/enabled on the network side to allow a connection to a 1900 network?
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Many thanks for the response. The curious thing to me is that if my device can accutally "see" the T-Mo and AT&T networks when it has a Cingular SIM installed, why won't it let me register on those 1900 Band networks? It seems that the Cingular SIM is somehow locked to the 850band and prevents the device connecting to any other network.... Is it because that where a Cingular 850band network exists, Cingular does not have roaming agreements in place with the other providers in that area? Do you know if the Cingular SIM could the SIM be programmed/enabled on the network side to allow a connection to a 1900 network?
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I have thought the same thing at times and unfortunately I can't say one way or the other. I do know that with my XDA when I travel back to New Orleans I lose signal literally when I cross the state line. I am buying an 850 capable phone soon so I can test my theory out and see what can be done.
Does your say unable to register on network too? When I switched my band to 1800 for some reason I was able to see the Cingular network on the phone but again not able to get on the network.
yes, excatly, "cannot register on the network"... I have a "wild" theroy that says if I get a SIM from a Cingular store in an area where they have a native 1900 Band network, it might be set up in such a way to let me roam in the Atlanta area...? The other question I had that you may be able to answer is do Cingular sell any GSM phones that do NOT have the 850 band, or are all the Cingular GSM phones now 850/1900/900 ?
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yes, excatly, "cannot register on the network"... I have a "wild" theroy that says if I get a SIM from a Cingular store in an area where they have a native 1900 Band network, it might be set up in such a way to let me roam in the Atlanta area...? The other question I had that you may be able to answer is do Cingular sell any GSM phones that do NOT have the 850 band, or are all the Cingular GSM phones now 850/1900/900 ?
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I can squash your theory on the SIM right now because I have an active sim from a 1900 market and it still don't work.
As far as the 1900 only phones, we haven't carried them in about 2 years because the Carolinas and California were our only GSM markets for a while and we had no need for 850 but now all we have is dual band or higher for 850.
Ok, many thanks. That will save me a trip to the Cingular store in Ohio when I am there next week So, a Cingular SIM will work in any Cingular dual band (or higher) phone allowing it to switch between available 850 and 1900 band networks that are operated by Cingular. In the case where a Cingular network is present, will they let you pick another carriers network (say AT&T) or will it force you to the Cingular network every time?
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Ok, many thanks. That will save me a trip to the Cingular store in Ohio when I am there next week So, a Cingular SIM will work in any Cingular dual band (or higher) phone allowing it to switch between available 850 and 1900 band networks that are operated by Cingular. In the case where a Cingular network is present, will they let you pick another carriers network (say AT&T) or will it force you to the Cingular network every time?
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It always will look for Cingular first but then go from there to a certain list of carriers and if those are not found it says to hell with it and takes anything it can get.
Hmmmm... still a mystery then, as my PPC PE could see both AT&T and TMo networks when the Cingular SIM was in it, but was unable to connect to either of them...? I have some contacts in the Cingular IT organization in Atlanta, so I'll see if they can shed any more light. Will let you know what I find out.
I feel your pain
If you think your experience is frustrating the plot thickens.
I'm in South Florida.
I have a TMobile that I unlocked middle of last year (Aug/Sep 2003) put in a Cingular SIM and worked perfectly (Roaming on the TMobile 1900 network) then a few months ago I had a lot of Outdoors, rugged type activities planned so I decided to pamper my PocketPC and put the Cingular SIM back into the "disposable" Cingular GSM that I got for a penny
Well days turned into weeks and months so a few days ago I decided to put the SIM back into the PocketPC. When I did, I got a "no signal" from both SIM's. I tried setting(bandwidth) and testing the GSM through the bootloader etc. You name it I tried it . I eventually upgraded to the TMobile WM2003 ROM and Radio Stack in desperation. And you guessed it...No joy. I get "NO SERVICE"
I know Cingular down here has migrated to the 850 but I don't know why roaming on TMobile 1900 has been disabled.
So in a nutshell: Cingular SIM used to work in a TMobile XDA up to a few months ago and now doesn't.
Hi, folks.
I just got an AT&T SX56 and I'd like to be able to use it with my Cingular account. I cooked a 3.17 ROM from yorch.net and the rom took, but when I try to use the phone functionality, it prompts me to turn on the wireless radio, and then enter my SID. I called Cingular customer service and got the SID for my area (00035), but it claims that the entry is invalid. I have heard that there could be problems with the radio stack when moving from AT&T to Cingular, but I'm not really clear on what that is, even whether it is a hardware or software thing.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
hi,
I didn't get you, did u upgrade successfully to 3.17 ? ... if yes, then it shouldn't ask you fot the SID code (try 8 zero's tho).
If the the upgrade failed then try the SD card method.
try to give more details.
Thanks for the reply, Biso007.
I think the xdaunlock program did the trick. I thought that the act of loading a new ROM would unlock the phone, but it didn't unlock until I used the xdaunlock flie.
My phone seems to function normally now.
Boone
Hi I just recently purchased a SX-56 and would like to use it on Cingular. I ran the unlock program and it tells me that there is no SID lock. When I put in my SIM Card the phone program picks up my number, but I can't seem to connect to the network. Any advice?
hi, i actually work for AWE and have an SX56. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this device will not work on Cingular's network. Cingular runs mostly 850 band gsm and this device only does 1800, 900, and 1900. it theoreticly will work on there roaming partners towers that are 1900 band, but that is only if it is unlocked and the 1900 band is less than have of there coverage. Hope this info helps.
Phil
Okay, so my only hope is roaming on 1900. Is there a particular Radio File I should be using (ie. T-Mobile or AT&T) to pick up the towers I can roam on Cingular with?
I am not sure, As far as I know, the phone just needs to be unlocked and it should pickup the 1900 band automaticly regardless of what sim is in it.
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I have an unlocked XDA working with an Orange SIM, I have been given an O2 SIM by my company and want to use it with my XDA, but when I put the O2 SIM in my XDA it will not receive any signal. I tried a T-Mobile SIM and this seems to work ok, but the O2 SIM will not connect to the network. Is this to do with the fact that I have unlocked the XDA?
When I unlocked the XDA I ude the XDAunlock utility and do not have a copy of the lock code. Does any body have ant ideas please?
Frootmig...
Are You sure, that the O2 Sim is working? Have you tried it in an other phone?
How old is this SIMcard? I know that there were som eproblems with a view SIMcards.
It's no problem of the unlocking.
HTH
Stefan
Both T-Mobile and Orange in the UK use the 1800 band, the O2 sim uses the 900 band, I would be interested to know if a Vodafone sim will work, can you get hold of one and try it?
My guess is if you have brought the phone 2nd hand it is barred on O2, due to the fact that cross network barring did not start till about the middle of last year if the phone was reported lost/stolen etc etc before then it will still work on the other networks, also make sure you have the setting so it can pick up signal on the 900mhz (O2 Vodafone) or it will never work.
:? Hi, Cruisin thru,lonegunman and lumpistefan
Thanks for your replys, the O2 SIM has been tried in an XDAII and works ok. The phone is not lost or stolen I have bought from the guy with the XDAII and I was with him when he bought the XDA I.
As far as I know the GSM is set to 900/1800 (its a model 10A), does it need to be set to just 900 for it to work with O2?
The SIM card is approx 1 year old and works ok in an XDA II.
Unfortunately I do not know anybody with a Vodaphone SIM.
I will try changing the band to 900 and see if this works, I assume this is done via the bootloader method (holding power button while pressing reset).
Many thanks , any other ideas would be appreciated.
Frootmig.
Have a seach round on here I think you will find that it is a sim card fault and you need a new one.
I live in Toronto Ontario, Canada and cand seem to get unlocking for
the service here. I've tried the unlocking from this website...it worked
but it doesn't have the Canadian service providers listed.
Can you PLEASE help.
Thank you in advance for your help.
you may contact me to get your SX56 unlocked.
I'm in Toronto
If the unlocking worked you just need to insert the sim, it should log on automatically, there is no need to choose a provider, your phone will work on any of the bands that your sx56 is capable of which is either 900/1900 or 900/1800.
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If the unlocking worked you just need to insert the sim, it should log on automatically, there is no need to choose a provider, your phone will work on any of the bands that your sx56 is capable of which is either 900/1900 or 900/1800.
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SX56 only works on GSM 900/1900, so it cannot work on any other bands.
it cannot work on GSM 1800 or GSM 850 (North America) band
As I said "either 900/1800 or 900/1900, whichever the sx56 is capable of.
there should be no problem if u unlocked it using the software on this site. Jus pop ur SIM in and make a call to see. When it comes to inputting the correct values for GPRS usage, you will need to get those from ur provider. I use Fido and it works fine and since Rogers supports the SX56 u should have no problem getting help from Customer Service.
Good Luck
tedtwolf said:
I live in Toronto Ontario, Canada and cand seem to get unlocking for
the service here. I've tried the unlocking from this website...it worked
but it doesn't have the Canadian service providers listed.
Can you PLEASE help.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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I have one unit wallaby bought from UK T-Mobile and another unit bought from Asia (my country Malaysia) O2 Xda. O2 xda can support all network here but T-Mobile cannot, why?
This is because of the radio stack version or handware promble?
T-Mobile are G324e4, R6.24.00, 4.01.12
O2 Xda are G32s54, R4.21.01, 3.20.06
Is it possible to make T-Mobile unit to same as O2 xda then can support all nerwotk here?
The problem you have is described here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby
O2 device is a PW10A supporting 900/1800 Mhz Networks
T-Mobile device is a PW10B supporting 900/1900 Mhz Networks
This is a hardware issue of the different devices....
Stefan