Hi, folks.
I just got an AT&T SX56 and I'd like to be able to use it with my Cingular account. I cooked a 3.17 ROM from yorch.net and the rom took, but when I try to use the phone functionality, it prompts me to turn on the wireless radio, and then enter my SID. I called Cingular customer service and got the SID for my area (00035), but it claims that the entry is invalid. I have heard that there could be problems with the radio stack when moving from AT&T to Cingular, but I'm not really clear on what that is, even whether it is a hardware or software thing.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
hi,
I didn't get you, did u upgrade successfully to 3.17 ? ... if yes, then it shouldn't ask you fot the SID code (try 8 zero's tho).
If the the upgrade failed then try the SD card method.
try to give more details.
Thanks for the reply, Biso007.
I think the xdaunlock program did the trick. I thought that the act of loading a new ROM would unlock the phone, but it didn't unlock until I used the xdaunlock flie.
My phone seems to function normally now.
Boone
Hi I just recently purchased a SX-56 and would like to use it on Cingular. I ran the unlock program and it tells me that there is no SID lock. When I put in my SIM Card the phone program picks up my number, but I can't seem to connect to the network. Any advice?
hi, i actually work for AWE and have an SX56. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this device will not work on Cingular's network. Cingular runs mostly 850 band gsm and this device only does 1800, 900, and 1900. it theoreticly will work on there roaming partners towers that are 1900 band, but that is only if it is unlocked and the 1900 band is less than have of there coverage. Hope this info helps.
Phil
Okay, so my only hope is roaming on 1900. Is there a particular Radio File I should be using (ie. T-Mobile or AT&T) to pick up the towers I can roam on Cingular with?
I am not sure, As far as I know, the phone just needs to be unlocked and it should pickup the 1900 band automaticly regardless of what sim is in it.
Related
I just bought a SX56 and was using it with T-mobile service. I switched to Cingular and when I put my sim card in, I can't get a signal. I have tried to change the gsm bands but even this doesn't work. Can someone please help because I love the features of this phone and don't want to go back to a normal phone.
Have you unlocked it?
Yes it's unlocked. I've tried it on all bandwidths and it won't detect cingular network. When I manually do it it won't save or work when I put cingular's network at the top of the list.
Cingular operates on 850/1900 and some world phones on 1800 to. What is the problem I may have. Can I not use my SX56 with cingular?
you should be able to use a t-mo radio stack on a SX56 to get signal with Cingular GSM. You may have change the radio stack if you are still using AT&T radio stack. Cingular is still converting TDMA to GSM in some areas. While to-mo has allways been GSM in the US. Rare poss explination: AT&T selling GSM SX56 in your area that they have recently gone GSM in. You a t-mo customer bought a gsm phone and used it on another gsm providers network, then attempted to switch to Cingular which may not have gone GSM in your area. If you went into a Cingular store and they gave you a SIM card they should have gsm coverage. If this is the case I would bet your radio stack is still AT&T's so try changing to t0-mo stack and see what you get. Search this forum for links under ROM upgrades or try yorch.net.
Since we are on the subject oes anyone know where to get a generic worldwide radio stack for the XDA1 like on the i-Mate(s)? :?
I tried to download radio stacks from yorch.net and get error pages. Any other ideas? I lost and I really like this phone.
bigjusee said:
Cingular operates on 850/1900 and some world phones on 1800 to. What is the problem I may have. Can I not use my SX56 with cingular?
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It depends on the area you are in for Cingular, most of their GSM operations are on 850 which the SX56 won't work on. If you are in the Carolina's I know it will work, but the other areas outside of here depend on the area. If you ask Cingular about it they will probably tell you it won't work. I would just ask Cingular what freqs. the towers in your area support. That will tell you for sure whether it will work or not.
Siemens sx 56.... cingular
Same here.... My sx56 reads "NO SERVICE"... I was not sure if it was the sim or not so I took it to a local Cingular Dealer and the tecnician took my sim and inserted it to a Cingular cell phone and the service came on... Inserted the sim back in the Sx56 and again "NO SERVICE"
Things Ive tried ....
- reset the SX56
- went to boot loader mode (ver ver 5.22) and did the GSM Audio test and this produced a load audible sound
- went back to the bootloader mode and selected the GSM 900, 900/1800, and 1900 and still "NO SERVICE"
- then I thought.... could it be locked? inserted a Tmobile sim again and the service came on... NOT LOCKED
MAN... WHATS going on!?!?!? previous to this Cingular service I had Tmobile which worked like a breeze... WAP and ALL!!!!
Any IDEAS anyone???
AND a BIG CONGRATS>>>>>> to the developers putting all this effort on this product and on such a COOL looking web site.
Rom version: 4.00.05 ENG
ROM date: 06/05/03
radio version: A.20.10
protocol version: 324e4
XDA1 issues with Cingular
OK, here is my life story:
I purchased the XDA from ATT Wireless but want to use it on Cingular, so I unlocked the XDA and it working fine with the Cingular SIM. (However, the network XDA picked up is T-Mobile and not Cingular). And the XDA works great in my hometown Houston, Texas.
I then travel to Indianapolis, Indiana, as soon as I got out of the plane, switched on the XDA, and got a signal for celluar service. Great so far.
When I get to my office which is 60 miles southeast of Indianapolis, I got no signal. When inquire the available network, I can see several Cingular networks listed on top of the drop-down list, and then ATT Wireless, and then T-Mobile, but the XDA won't be able to register to any of these networks??? Then funny thing is this is the place where I signed up with Cingular service.
When I contact Cingular, the representative said that the XDA appear to work while roaming onto other networks, but it will not in the local Cingular service area. She said that my PDA phone is not compatible with the local network. Is this possible?
Originally, my RS version is A.20.10, I then upgrade to A.33.02 in hoping to resolve the problem, but no luck.
I'm now trying to upgrade my RS to T-Mobile 6.24.00 from yorch.net but when unzip the file, it asks for a password. Does anyone know what the password is???
Am I going in the right direction to make my XDA usable in a Cingular network?
I am having the same issue getting my unlocked T-Mobile PPCPE to register on a network when using a Cingular Wireless SIM in the Atlanta area.
The phone can see both T-Mo and AT&T networks when using the Cingular SIM, but it will not register one either one of them...? It does not see the Cingular network however, as I believe that Cingular is using the 850 band, with roaming agreement in place with T-Mo and AT&T.
I am using the WM2003 ROM and radio versions.
Any ideas why it will not register on the T-Mo or AT&T network, even though it "sees" them...?
I am having the same issue getting my unlocked T-Mobile PPCPE to register on a network when using a Cingular Wireless SIM in the Atlanta area.
The phone can see both T-Mo and AT&T networks when using the Cingular SIM, but it will not register one either one of them...? It does not see the Cingular network however, as I believe that Cingular is using the 850 band, with roaming agreement in place with T-Mo and AT&T.
I am using the WM2003 ROM and radio versions.
Any ideas why it will not register on the T-Mo or AT&T network, even though it "sees" them...?
I am a Cingular customer care rep and I can tell you that the XDA will not work in the Indiana or Atlants markets. Reason being is that those markets are 850 and has no signs of being 1900 atleast until the AT&T buyout happens.
I am in South Mississippi and when we go GSM it will be 1900 but if I travel back to New Orleans I get no Cingular service because it again is another 850 market.
At this point the only 1900 GSM markets we have in the Southeast US is the Carolinas, Mobile, and South MS. Everyone else is 850.
Many thanks for the response. The curious thing to me is that if my device can accutally "see" the T-Mo and AT&T networks when it has a Cingular SIM installed, why won't it let me register on those 1900 Band networks? It seems that the Cingular SIM is somehow locked to the 850band and prevents the device connecting to any other network.... Is it because that where a Cingular 850band network exists, Cingular does not have roaming agreements in place with the other providers in that area? Do you know if the Cingular SIM could the SIM be programmed/enabled on the network side to allow a connection to a 1900 network?
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Many thanks for the response. The curious thing to me is that if my device can accutally "see" the T-Mo and AT&T networks when it has a Cingular SIM installed, why won't it let me register on those 1900 Band networks? It seems that the Cingular SIM is somehow locked to the 850band and prevents the device connecting to any other network.... Is it because that where a Cingular 850band network exists, Cingular does not have roaming agreements in place with the other providers in that area? Do you know if the Cingular SIM could the SIM be programmed/enabled on the network side to allow a connection to a 1900 network?
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I have thought the same thing at times and unfortunately I can't say one way or the other. I do know that with my XDA when I travel back to New Orleans I lose signal literally when I cross the state line. I am buying an 850 capable phone soon so I can test my theory out and see what can be done.
Does your say unable to register on network too? When I switched my band to 1800 for some reason I was able to see the Cingular network on the phone but again not able to get on the network.
yes, excatly, "cannot register on the network"... I have a "wild" theroy that says if I get a SIM from a Cingular store in an area where they have a native 1900 Band network, it might be set up in such a way to let me roam in the Atlanta area...? The other question I had that you may be able to answer is do Cingular sell any GSM phones that do NOT have the 850 band, or are all the Cingular GSM phones now 850/1900/900 ?
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yes, excatly, "cannot register on the network"... I have a "wild" theroy that says if I get a SIM from a Cingular store in an area where they have a native 1900 Band network, it might be set up in such a way to let me roam in the Atlanta area...? The other question I had that you may be able to answer is do Cingular sell any GSM phones that do NOT have the 850 band, or are all the Cingular GSM phones now 850/1900/900 ?
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I can squash your theory on the SIM right now because I have an active sim from a 1900 market and it still don't work.
As far as the 1900 only phones, we haven't carried them in about 2 years because the Carolinas and California were our only GSM markets for a while and we had no need for 850 but now all we have is dual band or higher for 850.
Ok, many thanks. That will save me a trip to the Cingular store in Ohio when I am there next week So, a Cingular SIM will work in any Cingular dual band (or higher) phone allowing it to switch between available 850 and 1900 band networks that are operated by Cingular. In the case where a Cingular network is present, will they let you pick another carriers network (say AT&T) or will it force you to the Cingular network every time?
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Ok, many thanks. That will save me a trip to the Cingular store in Ohio when I am there next week So, a Cingular SIM will work in any Cingular dual band (or higher) phone allowing it to switch between available 850 and 1900 band networks that are operated by Cingular. In the case where a Cingular network is present, will they let you pick another carriers network (say AT&T) or will it force you to the Cingular network every time?
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It always will look for Cingular first but then go from there to a certain list of carriers and if those are not found it says to hell with it and takes anything it can get.
Hmmmm... still a mystery then, as my PPC PE could see both AT&T and TMo networks when the Cingular SIM was in it, but was unable to connect to either of them...? I have some contacts in the Cingular IT organization in Atlanta, so I'll see if they can shed any more light. Will let you know what I find out.
I feel your pain
If you think your experience is frustrating the plot thickens.
I'm in South Florida.
I have a TMobile that I unlocked middle of last year (Aug/Sep 2003) put in a Cingular SIM and worked perfectly (Roaming on the TMobile 1900 network) then a few months ago I had a lot of Outdoors, rugged type activities planned so I decided to pamper my PocketPC and put the Cingular SIM back into the "disposable" Cingular GSM that I got for a penny
Well days turned into weeks and months so a few days ago I decided to put the SIM back into the PocketPC. When I did, I got a "no signal" from both SIM's. I tried setting(bandwidth) and testing the GSM through the bootloader etc. You name it I tried it . I eventually upgraded to the TMobile WM2003 ROM and Radio Stack in desperation. And you guessed it...No joy. I get "NO SERVICE"
I know Cingular down here has migrated to the 850 but I don't know why roaming on TMobile 1900 has been disabled.
So in a nutshell: Cingular SIM used to work in a TMobile XDA up to a few months ago and now doesn't.
I live in Toronto Ontario, Canada and cand seem to get unlocking for
the service here. I've tried the unlocking from this website...it worked
but it doesn't have the Canadian service providers listed.
Can you PLEASE help.
Thank you in advance for your help.
you may contact me to get your SX56 unlocked.
I'm in Toronto
If the unlocking worked you just need to insert the sim, it should log on automatically, there is no need to choose a provider, your phone will work on any of the bands that your sx56 is capable of which is either 900/1900 or 900/1800.
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If the unlocking worked you just need to insert the sim, it should log on automatically, there is no need to choose a provider, your phone will work on any of the bands that your sx56 is capable of which is either 900/1900 or 900/1800.
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SX56 only works on GSM 900/1900, so it cannot work on any other bands.
it cannot work on GSM 1800 or GSM 850 (North America) band
As I said "either 900/1800 or 900/1900, whichever the sx56 is capable of.
there should be no problem if u unlocked it using the software on this site. Jus pop ur SIM in and make a call to see. When it comes to inputting the correct values for GPRS usage, you will need to get those from ur provider. I use Fido and it works fine and since Rogers supports the SX56 u should have no problem getting help from Customer Service.
Good Luck
tedtwolf said:
I live in Toronto Ontario, Canada and cand seem to get unlocking for
the service here. I've tried the unlocking from this website...it worked
but it doesn't have the Canadian service providers listed.
Can you PLEASE help.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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hi all
i just bought my t-mobile sx56
i unlocked it with the help of this great site
but i cant find my network provider in the uk which is virgin
can anyone help me please
Virgin are using T-Mobile network.
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Virgin are using T-Mobile network.
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i cant find only these 2 providers when i look for the networks
vodafone
o2
thanks
dose that have a us rom in it giving 900/1900 rather than 900/1800 that you need
john
applecom said:
dose that have a us rom in it giving 900/1900 rather than 900/1800 that you need
john
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yes it has three bands
I had a old XDA1 to unlock for a friend, as i had seen the latest 2003 rom that unlocks the radio and gives him 2003 i used it, it worked fine but then the radio would not work on 1800, And as he was on orange here in the UK, i could not find a fix so i had to go back to 2002 rom and unolock it.
John
applecom said:
I had a old XDA1 to unlock for a friend, as i had seen the latest 2003 rom that unlocks the radio and gives him 2003 i used it, it worked fine but then the radio would not work on 1800, And as he was on orange here in the UK, i could not find a fix so i had to go back to 2002 rom and unolock it.
John
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hi
thanks alot for the info
i am using 2002 and when i search for a network provider i only get
o2 and vodafone
is it got to do with virgin or t-mobile band
the bands in my mobile are
900
1900
900/1800
is that a problem
in the UK o2 and Voda use 900 Orange and T-Mibile (virgin) use 1800. you need the option 900/1800, rather then the 900/1900 you have, i will find the rom i used and the correct radio, cant remember that well but i am sure the model number (not on the sticker as this can be changed by changing the radio rom) it ends with a "A" or "B" and this denotes if its a 900/1900 or 900/1800 model
John
Try the bandswitch option in bootloader, hold power while pushing soft reset, then push the button below antenna, choose 900/1800 and see if that gives you the network you need, this may hard reset your phone so backup first.
I was at at&t and we where unable to activate the phone even though the phone is capable. At&t said everything was good on there end but the phone just wont get a signal but it says it is on at&t.
Does anybody have any ideas how to fix this?
Have u unlocked the sim slot on the phone?
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I was at at&t and we where unable to activate the phone even though the phone is capable. At&t said everything was good on there end but the phone just wont get a signal but it says it is on at&t.
Does anybody have any ideas how to fix this?
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Quite a few people (including myself) on various boards have acknowledged having this problem as well. I got the SIM unlock code from Verizon but when I do a GSM network scan, nothing is detected. I know it has been escalated above level 2 support at Motorola and hopefully they will address it shortly. Here's another thread about it over on droidforums: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96596-droid-2-global-unlock-foreign-sim.html
Yes, I have unlocked the phone from the code verizon gave me.
I hope its a fixable problem. But I noticed when I use an active tmob sim the phone doesnt even say tmobile. But when I use an at&t sim it atleasts says at&t.
I'm very interested (as I'm sure many others are) in a resolution to this. OP did you call VZW global support and let them know you're having this problem? Hopefully the more they hear about it, the faster they'll have a fix
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I'm very interested (as I'm sure many others are) in a resolution to this. OP did you call VZW global support and let them know you're having this problem? Hopefully the more they hear about it, the faster they'll have a fix
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They where no help at all they said it was for foreign sim cards only and that at&t and tmobile where not supported. But they did say verizon was better than both of them combined.
If you feel like experimenting try this:
Go to dialpad, and enter *#*#4636#*#*
Click on Phone Information, and then scroll down to bottom. Set preferred network type from "CDMA auto(PRL)" to "WCDMA preferred" and see if that kicks it on ATT.
I'm 99.9% sure after looking through the user guide that VZW has restricted use of the 850/1900 MHz GSM/UMTS bands, even though the device has the hardware to support them. Most foreign networks use 900/1800 GSM and 2100 UMTS but AT&T/T-Mobile use 850/1900, which is why no one has had any success with them yet.
Hopefully someone can figure out a workaround.
EDIT: Just a US GSM restriction...looks like 850/1900 work abroad: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...d2-global-south-america-first-impression.html
IslesFan said:
If you feel like experimenting try this:
Go to dialpad, and enter *#*#4636#*#*
Click on Phone Information, and then scroll down to bottom. Set preferred network type from "CDMA auto(PRL)" to "WCDMA preferred" and see if that kicks it on ATT.
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These where the results I got, so clearly it is getting seeing the network. Just not connecting.
Just got off the phone with Motorola and they said the droid 2 global was only for verizon sim cards and when I told them about the unlock code the guy didn't know what they where for. So another dead end. Another theory I have is that the stock verizon rom is blocking at&t so maybe if someone can flash another rom we can see if this is the problem.
Further proof the 850/1900 bands are locked: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57058/p/30,6720,7706
"GSM-based global services work only with a SIM card supplied by Verizon Wireless® or by another GSM 900 or GSM 1800 service provider. When you set your phone to use a GSM 900 or GSM 1800 network you may be prompted to enter a subsidy code. To get this code, contact Verizon Wireless."
EDIT: Looks like they're just locked in the US, not abroad: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...d2-global-south-america-first-impression.html
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Further proof the 850/1900 bands are locked: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57058/p/30,6720,7706
"GSM-based global services work only with a SIM card supplied by Verizon Wireless® or by another GSM 900 or GSM 1800 service provider. When you set your phone to use a GSM 900 or GSM 1800 network you may be prompted to enter a subsidy code. To get this code, contact Verizon Wireless."
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If this is true why would they say it has the 850 and 1900 bands? I know its not a hardware problem, so if its a software problem there is a chance we can have a workaround. Or the locked bands might be because of the verizon rom.
I was able to put a new rom on my Droid 2 Global and although the rom was working since it was for a droid 2 the radio was not working properly. I was not able to force turn it on. I still have several more things I will try tonight.
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I was able to put a new rom on my Droid 2 Global and although the rom was working since it was for a droid 2 the radio was not working properly. I was not able to force turn it on. I still have several more things I will try tonight.
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Keep us posted!
This has been done before on Windows Mobile phones (CDMA HTC Touch Pro 2) and requires a radio reflash since the bands are locked in the radio firmware. I am hoping they will develop a solution for Android phones. http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
Being that this the 1st CDMA/GSM (Tie if you count Droid Pro) Android device I would wait and see.
firebrain said:
This has been done before on Windows Mobile phones (CDMA HTC Touch Pro 2) and requires a radio reflash since the bands are locked in the radio firmware. I am hoping they will develop a solution for Android phones. http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
Being that this the 1st CDMA/GSM (Tie if you count Droid Pro) Android device I would wait and see.
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Good info, thanks
As from what I learned from previous devices the Droid 2 Global Verizon has a security locked radio. I have seen people unlock the radios from windows mobile phones, it is as easy as installing a .zip file that will unlock the security. I believe it is the same way with the Droid 2 Global. I will try to get this working but I don’t have much knowledge in the development field. But I do know you will have to be rooted. I have also spoke with a friend at Verizon, which claims that they did indeed lock the radios and there is a workaround. He said he was not familiar with this workaround but said it was close to the problem with the windows mobile security locked devices. I am calling this the official reason the phone wont work with US networks. This makes sense, and now that we found the problem it shouldn’t be long before we find a way around it.
Thanks for the info swangotp...that definitely sounds promising. Keep us posted!
subscribing to this thread... I know this is possible.
So, I just bought this phone - I like the way it looks, and I wanted to try out WP7.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to get it working with tmobile (I live in the US)
It's a LG E-900h, with the canadian telus firmware on it. What do I need to do if I want to use it with Tmobile?
Let's start with what is not working for you. Can you at least make phone calls? Give us some details.
phone calls
Nope - Can't make phone calls - right now, the phone tells me my SIM card is invalid (in settings/cellular, it says "no sim")
I assume this can be fixed - but the methods I've tried haven't worked (I've tried debranding via the engineering menu, and swapping to the tmobile network profile)
Is there anything else I should try?
Its odd that it says No SIM, I'd figure it would at least ask you for an unlock code. Are you sure you have the SIM in the correct way? If you put them in backwards, the phone won't read it.
If your phone then asks for an unlock code, you'll need to SIM unlock it.
From this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9827632#post9827632 :
Unfortunately, LG Optimus 7 does not support AWS, hence it will not support 3G neither on T-Mobile USA nor Wind Mobile or Mobilicity (it will fall back to GSM/EDGE modes on T-Mobile and will always be in Wind Away zone roaming through Rogers if you were to use Wind Mobile SIM card).
Not to stop you short, but just a heads up I guess.
If you go into the MFG settings to change the network profile thare are a couple that show "TMU_US" thought I'm not sure if that's even TMobile or what carrier that would be or even which one to try. But good luck.
yep
I saw that thread before hand, and I was anticipating the 3g problem (a tmobile rep had told me this as well)
My issue is making phone calls ATM. everyone else says when you insert a foreign sim, it asks for an unlock code - which mine hasn't done yet. I did buy the phone used on ebay (the seller claimed it was unlocked).
Regardless - right now, it says invalid sim. I inserted it with the notched corner UP
**SURE ENOUGH - sim card was in backwards. it's working great now
Don't feel bad, I forgot about that, but I did the same thing.
So use to haveing it only fit one way that I didn't pay attention to the picture, but I got it working after a litle while too.
Let us know how the connections are working out for you.
I have a Telus LG Optimus 7 phone, bought an unlock code on eBay for $10. When going down to US I use a TMO SIM card, and I can confirm that phone works perfectly for 2/2.5G (GSM/EDGE), and doesn't work with TMO 3G (which is AWS, same as Wind Mobile and Mobilicity, like someone mentioned above). But luckily for me TM has a $2/day plan which offers unlimited calls/text/2G internet, which makes it perfect for 1-2 day intermittent trips across the border, EDGE speeds are just enough to have my e-mails coming and maps working. It would support full 3G on AT&T, but they don't have any good prepaid data plans - the only one they could offer was 100 mb for $20, which expires in 7 days.
optimus 3g
are you sure that there's no way to change settings in the engineering menu to make it work with Tmo's 3g?
Also - what do I need to do to update my optimus to the new build of wp7?
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are you sure that there's no way to change settings in the engineering menu to make it work with Tmo's 3g?
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I'm absolutely certain - you can manually switch between supported frequencies: WCDMA 850 MHz, WCDMA 900 MHz, WCDMA 1800 MHz and WCDMA 1900 MHz, but the phone has no support for AWS 1700/2100 (unlike regular WCDMA, when uplink and downlink use channels from the same band, AWS is also using different band for upstream and downstream).
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Also - what do I need to do to update my optimus to the new build of wp7?
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When you say "new build" what exactly do you mean? Which build do you currently have? Does Zune tell you that you have latest firmware?