XDA IIi - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Some info on ppcw.net about the new XDAIIi,
Looking good. :lol:

It looks really good - I can't wait

Nice Can't wait until i get my hand on it...now i have a reason why i shouldn't buy Xda IIs :wink:
Thanx for the info Qbert.

Hell Yeah
Yeah Baby this is what I'm talkin' bout!
Xda IIs - NOT!

Re: XdaIIi
supports Bluetooth using the Widcomm Bluetooth stack, already introduced with the Xda IIs/III
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anyone know what is meaning ..III, is MDA III or what :?:
http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=2137
Thank's

Yeah, it's interesting, but will they made 640*480 device?

YES!
Now that's a device I'm gonna get!
Wasn't really sure about the Blue Angel.. Didn't really care much for design and keyboard..
Looks bulky..
Does anyone know the Qtek model name/number of the Alpine?

I am a little disappointed, I thought the XDA2i - which I will be upgrading to - had all the benefits of the IIs but with even higher specs? I was getting quite used to the idea of having a black coloured phone, with a little querty kb as in the 's', now I found out that it's going to be almost the same look and feel as the XDA2.
Confused

XDA III
o2 Germany's Xda III will exclude the camera :
http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=2138&catid=60
so many varian from O2 XDA, code name is still Blue Angel !! :roll:

xda2 s suck's
after using xda2,
i found xda 2s,
verry bad like the screen its i think 50% dull than the xda2, I mean when u tilt the phone side way or up and down u can see the colour change from yellow to white, this never use to happen in xda2 and the colour quality is also bad am curseing my self why did I upgrade???T
he jabra bluetooth which worked fine with xda2 dosen't work well with 2s lot of hissing,
i am really unhappy with the screen quality,
so guy's and gal's stick to xda2 and pray that xda3 will have a crisp and clear screen and the bluetooth will work fine,

i think i will buy me the XDA IIi
hopefully it will released soon in Germany..
:roll: anyone have some date??

PPCW.net XDAIIi
Hi all,
Looks like a fake to me, unless I'm missing somthing why would they keep the old shape of the XDA II. Just looks like a revamped XDA II.

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Looks like a good upgrade to me. The XDAIIs is just too bulky. When will this be available :?: :?: :?:

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It's just a PDA and after having the XDAII, not really impressed with it at all.
The XDA II is a bit on the boring side, well unless you get one then spend hours making it do other things.... :?: ....which really is what they appear tobe all about. :idea:
As a phone they are not good in general, as an extention to your Laptop they are reasonable, but seriously...... :?: ....what are they good for....... ?
A good toy to play with me thinks and thats that.

Heh?
I am confused now, isn't the XDA IIi the same as the XDA IIs which is the same as the XDA III (quotes, not my own words)?
The reason I am asking is because I bought my XDA IIs from O2 today, and apart form being in a graphite/black/grey colour and the keyboard its not to dissimilar to my XDA II.
Now my bro purchased his XDA IIs from eBay, called the MDAIII, except for being a cool silver colour like the XDA II its no different to my XDA IIs... so what is going on?
By the way the XDA IIs is not really any different to the XDA II/i-mate etc, the only major difference I can see right now is the inclusion of the keyboard (too small for my hands) and built-in WiFi (easily done with a standard XDA II using something like a SanDisk WiFi card) - apart from that the tech spec is the same, I was half exepcting a better quality camera (the XDA II camera is good in its own right though), unfortunately it is identical to the XDA II. WM2003SE is cool though even though half my apps don't work with it and the landscape mode is only really any good for Word/Excel and Internet Browsing.
Cheers,
Taz

Hmm, was going to buy the XDAIIs, then heard about the XDAIIi but i like the idea of the keyboard on the XDAIIs (grrrr).
Wonder if they will release a version of the XDAIIi with the keyboard.
Actually, does anyone know if the case will be black like the XDAIIs?
Graham

anybody know when i-mate will release their version of the XDA IIi?

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anybody know when i-mate will release their version of the XDA IIi?
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During Q1 of 2005... wait for 3GSM Exhibition and you may see the PDA2 (XDA IIi)...

XDA IIs is very different to XDA II. If you think they're similar on the outside, you want your head looking at!! Internally they seem very similar in terms of spec list.
The IIi is, as I had expected, the XDA II with some useful upgrades, though 400Mhz to 500Mhz isn't a great step up. I would be tempted to get that, but I'm hoping the next one - can they call it XDA III?! - will have the keyboard *and* better CPU *and* VGA.
I would have to assume that the IIi's CPU runs at 500Mhz-or-so simply to save on battery usage - if they're using the same package, they're probably using the same batteries so they won't necessarily be taking advantage of increased battery performance at this time.
Of course, it's only really a matter of time before we start seeing PDAs with 20Gb 1.8" hard disks in like the Sony NW-HD1 I got hold of - or maybe the new 1" hard disks they've released recently. Batteries are getting better all the time and electronics (and disks) are getting smaller all the time. The XDA II remains one of the better devices out there despite being some 18 months old now, so I think PDAs are going to have to catch up with other consumer electronics sooner or later.
In the next few years look out for 800x600 OLED displays and hard disks in PDAs.

Related

What do you think is better, and why? - XDA2 or Samsung i700

what do u think is better and why - xda2 or sumsong i700
There's a great comparison over on pdaphonehome.com . The short answer is that there are various things that are better on one or the other. You have to decide which things have more value. Check out the review.
He was talking about the XDA II, although the review will probably give a good idea of which is more desireable anyway.
Sorry, I missed that. Then I think the XDA II would be a clear winner.

Is it a good time to buy a Jam with Magneto coming soon?

Hey,
I know its the age old adage of "New devices always around the corner" but I'd really appreciate if you could help me with a buying decision.
I really love the I-mate Jam, it has all the features I need, and the lack of wireless is not a big deal as it hasn't really taken off that much in the UK yet, plus I will be out of my current contract this month.
But I have used a friend's O2 XDA IIs (I-Mate PDA-2K) and wasn't convinced about its useability/reliability as a phone. But on the other hand I would love to not have to carry about a pocket pc as well as a phone.
I guess when Magneto is launched, it will at least be a few months before the new devices come out, and even longer before UK networks adopt them. But I can't help but think that Magneto will improve the overall experience with these kind of devices.
So is it worth buying one now?
I guess you guys may be sick of this following question, so feel free not to answer it:
With the other HTC devices having had leaked upgrades in the past, and with the "alledged" existance of a leaked HTC Magician Magneto rom, do you think that there is a strong chance of a leaked final upgrade for the HTC Magician?
Despite its many needless problems, the Jam has been a success for HTC so its fair to say that HTC wil follow up with another device of this similar form factor ie "Jam 2". Magneto is definitley out this summer.
Xmas season is where all retailers make their money. Put two and two togehter and you are looking at a Jam 2 in November - it would have to be Magneto since no one would buy one with the current OS at that point. But I don't see a Jam 2 coming out before then. In fact, if the Jam continues to sell well, they may just hold off to spring. But I thnk they'd be smarter to build on the momentum they've got and release Jam 2 for Christmas gift season.
But its up to you really what its worth to you. As a Jam owner I think the device is full of pluses and minuses. If you dont NEED its PDA capabilities tthen you're best off waiting a couple of months, because honestly the phone portion of it is adequate at best, primitive at worst. If you just plain need one, well then you need one. If its that urgent, but the Jam now and recoup whatver you can by selling it when the Jam 2 comes out.
You cannot future proof any device. There will AWAYS be something around the corner to trump what you have in you hand. Just a fact.
Also may be worth your while to give a look at the newly announced Nokia Series 60 touchscreen phones (N90 N91 or whatever the model number is).
Thanks very much for the feedback and the votes.
I guess the thing that I have to bear in mind is that being in the UK, where the MDA compact has only just become available, although I imagine the I-Mate version has been around for a bit longer.
I really dont see there being an HTC Magician 2 been available in the time frame I intend to buy a phone. I mean at present it is just a rumour, and it seems to go like this.
Rumour to product launch = 2-3 months.
Product launch to general availability = 2-3 months.
Like you said christmas period, so this is not so much of a worry for me.
What would annoy me is if they continue to sell the HTC Magician BUT with Magneto, and arranging it so that there is no method of upgrading. Hopefully the chances of that happening are slim?
What does concern me is:
because honestly the phone portion of it is adequate at best, primitive at worst
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I've had a look around the forums, it seems to be mostly hardware problems, and that the software problems are fixable, can you elaborate?
I mean I currently have a Motorola V600 which drives me mad; poor phonebook, buttons on the side which consistenly switch the phone from silent to loud whilst in my pocket, and a earspeaker which keeps coming loose.
I mean the main things I want to use it for are as an in car MP3 player & Sat Nav with tomtom bluetooth gps, calendar to store constantly changing uni timetables, and to do list. Pocket PC Phones look good for me for the above reasons and because I can track my monthly contract use.
And magneto isnt going to affect me that much for my purposes I think, as WMP10 comes installed on the Jam. But it does look like magneto will improve phone functionality, which is why I'm curious to know if it is bad at the moment?
It sounds to me like you have just about talked yourself into getting a new Magician. I have had mine for 6 months now. My old phone was a SonyEricsson P800, when I bought it it was THE phone (for my needs anyway). I dropped my P800 in the lake (no lie), even though I got it working again, I decided to look into a replacement because I didn't really trust it anymore. My Jam has been great. As for the complaints, well you know how people love to complain. I haven't found any real faults with my Jam except that it won't activate MS Voice Command from the wired headset (which my P800 did). I use mine to the maximum and it hasn't let me down. I have a good friend that has one also and he only has one third party program which is Small Menu and he couldn't be happier with his Qtek S100. So the Magician works well as just a phone PDA and for Power Users too.
I wouldn't expect the masses to be getting their hands on a Jam2 until January 2006, and of course if you are one of the first to get one you will pay pay pay, like I did for mine. My friend paid 200 pounds less for his Qtek by waiting 3 months. Like you said, there is always a new phone coming, but the Jam is a real breakthrough product.
remixme said:
What does concern me is:
because honestly the phone portion of it is adequate at best, primitive at worst
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I've had a look around the forums, it seems to be mostly hardware problems, and that the software problems are fixable, can you elaborate?.....
.....And magneto isnt going to affect me that much for my purposes I think, as WMP10 comes installed on the Jam. But it does look like magneto will improve phone functionality, which is why I'm curious to know if it is bad at the moment?
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Phonewise: Sound quality is not up to par. Most accept it because the device does so many other things in a small form factor. But it if was a pure phone with this level sound quality, I think many would toss it. I myself use a bluetooth headset to mitigate this problem. The "twaeks" don't really help - I'd sum it up as cheap hardware. Same goes for the camera BTW: 1.3MP should be a good simple camera but obvious cheap hardware is a letdown. My friends Nokia 6670 mades this Jam camera look stupid - and both are 1.3MP.
Phone software: Its okay, not stellar. Many buttons need to be resized for true thumb operation eg numbers, flight mode, message pop-ups. Its poor design if people have to pull out a stlus to navigate phone functions. Also text message ergonomics are very weak. Nothing I saw in Magneto really addressed these obvious problems.
So as I said, its probably the tidest physical sized PPC phone package and that is its plus. The tradeoff is the shortcuts (low-quality components) that were used to achieve the price point. HTC is not likely to change that and Ihave not seen anything in Magneto to address the OS shortcomings.
So honestly don't agonize too much. Just buy if you're buying. There is no magic bullet around the corner. When all is said and done, a Magneto powered Jam 2 probably only feature Wifi, 3g (or some similar thing) and larger ROM as its meaningful improvements. All the things that people like or dont like will be same on that device.
Thanks for all the feedback, I have gone ahead and ordered an MDA compact, on contract. For a good price. Just gonna wait till it gets here.

Is the screen for XDA IIi the same comparing the XDA II ?

Is the screen for XDA IIi the same comparing XDA II ?
yup
upgrade from XDA2 to PDA2.
What do you mean PDA2?
Is that similiar machine to XDA2i?
Which parts were upgraded?
my bet is that it's not something spc you wrote in your post
just his signatur
telling the grand tale of him replacing his xda2 with a pda2
you'll notice then when you reply to the thread it dont show signaturs and thous that line is no longer there
hahah a grand tale? i love it! (your explanation, not my journey) yeah that is just my signature, but strangely relevant to this post.
the pda2 is my current device, its the i-mate (carrier devices) version of the o2 xda IIi.
the pda2 and xda IIi screen is the same as the XDA II, infact the two devices are aesthetically exactly the same except for the camera on the back looks slightly different.

Time to replace the Hermes! But what with? Your advice needed!

Hi all,
Like most people who bought the Vario II in the first week it came out, it is time the contract is up... so I am looking for a new toy!!
I was originally tempted to get the Toshiba G900 before it came out, but the lack of a transflective screen, 3G-only, and the "won't wake up" problem were TOO MUCH for me to take! Even though it has nice resolution.
Kaiser sounds nice but it isn't really a very big step forward from the Hermes... yea its got better graphics and a built-in GPS, but not much else really. Not even a VGA screen. Probably not worth shelling out £500 for.
The E-Ten X800 (originally X500+) in theory is a very good candidate, but it is still not out!! Same with iMate's Ultimate series.
So what should I do?
Is the Touch worth the money?
Or should I go iPhone?
Or just keep the Hermes for another year...
Any advice welcome!
Thanks.
I'd keep the Hermes until something a little more revolutionary comes out.
But this did catch my eye the other day. Pretty much comparable to the Hermes (datawise, camera, etc.) but it's still not a big jump up from the Hermes if at all. But it does have a form factor I prefer (QWERTY always accessible without the flipping and rotation juggle).
http://www.mobileplanet.com/d.aspx?i=147071
Until the iPhone gets GPS, 3G, real OTA sync (Exchange or otherwise) and 3rd-party apps, it just can't compare. It is a joy to use and pretty to look at, but the functionality is way thin coming from a Windows Mobile, BlackBerry or even Palm device.
The new Nokia with the clamshell keyboard design and the keypad on the outside looks intriguing. However, if you're in the US, not sure if it supports US 3G bands.
sickchilly said:
I'd keep the Hermes until something a little more revolutionary comes out.
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Same here, unless I get a good upgrade.
I was going to replace my Hermes with the Kaiser, untill i noticed there is no LED flashlight. Horrible. I happen to use it as a regular source of light in various conditions with VJcandela. So i guess i'll just have to wait untill the Kaiser comes with a flashlight...
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Same here, unless I get a good upgrade.
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Same here......................
okay, i read the tread this time
keep your hermes.
Ok so sounds like I should keep mine then!
But I'll probably still get an iPhone, and put it on eBay.
wywywywy said:
Ok so sounds like I should keep mine then!
But I'll probably still get an iPhone, and put it on eBay.
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iphones suck... aside from the beauty factor. functionality wise, they cant hold a candle to the hermes or kaiser.
Yea I know, and so does iPod.
I bet there will be a shortage in the Europe and some general iPod-fanatics who don't know much except hair-care products will pay any price to get it.
This is UK not US so there is no AT&T lock-in.
wywywywy said:
Yea I know, and so does iPod.
I bet there will be a shortage in the Europe and some general iPod-fanatics who don't know much except hair-care products will pay any price to get it.
This is UK not US so there is no AT&T lock-in.
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pretty good business decision. you can probably sell it for twice what its worth. thats what happened here when people were dying for the iphone.
worthy upgrade
man,
i think u should go for something like the sony vaio UMPC.
or maybe the HTC OMNI when it comes out(it's sexy )
i'd upgrade when something similar to HTC universal comes out with 5" vga/better screen, vista ultimate ,80 gigs(ok, i'll settle for 40 for a start) and a truckload of connectivity options..(much like a tablet pc, but with UNIVERSAL form factor)
Yea I've got my eyes on the OQO UMPCs, because they have good transflective screens... but I have way too many gadgets already!
Vario II, XDA IIi, Nokia 770 (internet tablet), desktop, HTPC, rackmount home server, ITX automation server, car PC, home laptop, work laptop... not sure what I am going to do with an UMPC really!
Instead of the OQO, I'd wait for the HTC Switch. Looks like a much better package than the OQO2.
It's almost feeling like keep the Hermes for another year - all the other stuff (including the Omni) just looks too big - I was put off the universal because I felt it looked terrible.
Hermes just about has it all...
...although if a Treo came out with wifi and as loadsa ram...I might be tempted back...

[Q]Would you have bought your X1 if you didn't knew that XDA existed?

I knew that SE is very bad with updates. An one of the reasons i chose the X1 is because i knew that XDA developers existed. Therefore I ask you "Would you have bought your X1 if you didn't knew that XDA existed?"
I had already decided to buy it before I knew XDA existed. Funny thing is, I couldn't imagine working without XDA now. So I'm glad I found it. ^_^
I have to admit I'd struggle to choose a non htc based phone unless there's somewhere as useful.
The new Tosh appeals, but there's not much in the way of discussion and dev on their kit. The modaco tosh subforum has a minuscule amount of posts.
I bought my X1 before i knew that xda existed
I think I know what this poll will show. There are allot of fresh members in the x1 section. well, not all people are like me then. Now, when I think of it. All of my phones that I have had have been modded in some way, bouth hardware and firmware.
Sincerely, no I wouldn't.
I was going to buy a Nokia 5880 Xpressmusic after a long time wondering which one was the best for me (between 5800 and X1).
But when I realized that you all were here, ...well, guess how it ended?
Well, I decided to buy X1 and bought it before I know XDA. And because I bought X1,I found there...
If I didn't buy a X1,maybe I will not know XDA till now.
You know I am from China where is not a English country,I usually don't go to a English forum,just for find something I will do that.But now,because X1,I get there.
Paitor said:
I think I know what this poll will show. There are allot of fresh members in the x1 section. well, not all people are like me then. Now, when I think of it. All of my phones that I have had have been modded in some way, bouth hardware and firmware.
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The amount of people with X1 or SE or xperia in their name is the giveaway
SonyEX1 said:
I bought my X1 before i knew that xda existed
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Same here..
i didnt even know about htc phones never mind cooking roms and xda
only got the x1 as the hype engine drizzled lubricant over me got me
and nokia phones died on me twice 7110 and n80 but im happy that i found it
.......my x1 and xda forums
Yes. I think although WM can be enhanced, it's not all that bad out-of-the-box if you just need the PDA & Phone features. I mean there are some useful today plugins which come as default and most stuff works just fine (for example SPB mobile shell panel)
Only real catch is that there is no good on-screen keyboard pre-installed.
But most of the addon stuff I installed on my X1 I never really use.
I ordered the X1a and only then did I find XDA.
I have an HTC TyTN and have been using XDA to tweak it very succesfuly. I am now planning to change to SE X1 (honestly I'd prefer HTC Touch HD but its 3G doesn't work in my country). I was very unsure to choose X1 but as soon as I found XDA has a dedicated section to it I'm now very happy and confident to do it. Thanks XDA!
I was deciding between TouchHD and X1, leaning towards TouchHD due to the onscreen keyboard and TF3D. When I found XDA and saw that I can tweak both in X1, I did not look back!
This my first post here.
I decided to buy the Xperia X1 because of this excellent forum. It´s simply the best smartphone related forum I have visited to this day.
The information and tweaks, ROM development and so on is perfect and it enhances the device on a very nice way.
Keep up the good work!
I was searching for a phone with keyboard, GPS and touchscreen. I was leaning towards the Touch Pro to have support over here at XDA.
When I saw Xperia's specs, I was like OMG... a wvga screen and a metal casing /me wants
I came over here to see what XDA guys thought about the Xperia, and saw Xperia's own forum section Two minutes later, my order was made
Xperia is a cool phone, but when you know XDA, it becomes just fantastic
To be honest these days I would never buy a smartphone without a decent support/community...
Why? Because it's much safer and also - there are NO problem-free devices today!!
And especially with a new platform like WM for me - I would not deduct many things by myself!!
But It'd be the same with any new device for me.
SonyEX1 said:
I bought my X1 before i knew that xda existed
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yup, same thing here
Good question..
I knew about XDA before.. and it sure made it easier to buy the device knowing what comes out of this forum
Without XDA i wouldn't buy a Xperia, i am using XDA for about a year now (HTC Touch). And love the quality of the phones they make. And flahsing roms since i came here.
Without this forum i wouldn't buy a new WM phone because standard they are to slow

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