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Bleutooth reception is weak

I experience terrible static sound if I carry the Universal in my leather belt case.
It must be due to the placement of the bleutooth reciever in the device. If I use the headset (I use a Jabra 250) in the car and the Universal is sitting on the chair I have a perfect signal. However, if I put my MDA Pro in the leather case and its hanging on my belt its terrible. As soon as I take it out of the case reception is perfect.
I don't have this experience if I use the headset with my Motorola Razr.
Conclusion: BT reception on the Universal is weak.

Now I have a similar experience, and given that the BT software in XDA's has been fairly crap all along, I wondered if people with updated BT roms or whatever had a better experience.
Anyone with the latest JJ rom able to comment or compare?

I have the last ROM on it, and I don't know if it has the last BT update, but what I can say is that BT signal, using my Bluespoon AX BT headset, is very weak. If I turn around my self...I can loose BT signal...I don't know if it can depend on headset or phone...but really I don't like this!

I mentioned this before, I keep my JJ in its pouch (HP Ipaq 5550 case) on the same side of my body as the ear on which I place my BT headset. I have found with other devices (SE and Nokia) that if the pouch is on the other side to the side you have your BT headset the signal will be much weaker.

jah said:
I mentioned this before, I keep my JJ in its pouch (HP Ipaq 5550 case) on the same side of my body as the ear on which I place my BT headset. I have found with other devices (SE and Nokia) that if the pouch is on the other side to the side you have your BT headset the signal will be much weaker.
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I saw your post here. Indeed.......if I put my Universal upside down in the belt case reception is a bit better.
This enforces my opinion. The BT receptor obviously is located in the bottom part of the device:http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26375 This means that if the signal has t travel through the whole device signal is weakened a lot.
Is there a way to boost the signal?

Just do the following test to see what I mean:
Start a telephone link between your universal and your headset.
Now. Turn the universal with the bottom to the headset: Reception is great, even after several meters I experience no static "cracking"
Turn your universal 180 degrees so its facing with the top directly to the BT headset. I experience severe noise even at half a meter........
Please post your findings here. If its just me I have to exchange my device.........
Tnx.

i have exactly the same isue on my mda pro.

These cases that you mention, are they the bog standard slip-cases that ship with the phones or are they the ones with aluminium in to help protect the device?
I only ask the question because I once tried an aluminium case on my XDA2 and it blocked most of the phone signal.
The advice Jah gave is also contained in most BT manuals, i.e have the device on the same side of your body as your headset.

I get the feeling it's not the case, but the device itself.
Do the table test and report back!
I'm gonna do it after my tea

I have the same problem with my device as well.
I also agree it's the device problem and not the case.
Regards,

Splatt! said:
These cases that you mention, are they the bog standard slip-cases that ship with the phones or are they the ones with aluminium in to help protect the device?
I only ask the question because I once tried an aluminium case on my XDA2 and it blocked most of the phone signal.
The advice Jah gave is also contained in most BT manuals, i.e have the device on the same side of your body as your headset.
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I am using a full leather holster case (Nutshell, NZ ), no alu or other metal in it. There is no interference from the case in a BT signal whatsoever. Its the device itself that shields the BT signal.
This is a major design flaw, overlooked by HTC. The sheer bulk of the Universal sits between the headset and the place where it is carried most: The belt or the pocket.

Today is the first time I used my Jabra BT800 and JJ (in the vertical PDAir case) outside. The signal strenght between the BT800 and the JJ was very weak even when I took the JJ out of the case. I had a similar problem with my SE P800 (three years ago). The JJ and BT800 seem to work well when inside a room or in the car.

hi
i'm afraid I have exactly the same issue. have tried with bluespoon ax, Plantronics 640 and Bluetrek G2. All have reception issues.
pity, because this phone REALLY needs a headset.

best bluetooth headset?

Hey! just wondering, what do you guys recommend for a good bluetooth headset for XDA exec?

I have the Jabra BT250V and find it the best for me, I have not tried any other brands other than the Bluespoon AX (that was to hard to get on in a hurry and allthough its small I found it looked stupid hanging out of the ear.
I have a Jabra BT500 and love the shape but am having problems pairing it with my Jasjar it was fine for a while then after an upgrade I couldn't pair it with the phone. I also found it to be alot harder to hear than the BT250v and I love the vibration in the 250V as you know weather or not the bluetooth is still active as it is a bit unrealiable on the Jasjar.

I'm really pleased with my Jabra BT800. Excellent battery life (2-3 days, 2 hrs per day), superb sound quality (and positive comments from people even when I'm in a noisy environment), good control with the built-in screen and plenty of buttons, comfortable etc.
Only restriction at the moment is the lack of caller name on the screen. Just have the caller's phone number at the moment. I think this is the Universal's fault though, and I fully expect it to be fixed with a ROM update.
Bluetooth is perfectly reliable for me on my XDA Exec with this headset. My old Sony HBH-65 was much less reliable: almost unusable.

I agree with Silicon the BT800 is a good headset and works for me okay with my Exec. But I have found the cheaper SE HBH-608 has a much better battery life (usually 5 days) and is lighter and more comfortable, but it does not have a LCD. A BT headset with a LCD is a must I think when using the Universal. The Caller id I think need the headset BT profile which I am not sure will be in the next ROM upgrade. Finally, I would also recommend you look at the Tekkeon ET3000 (if you are in the USA) and the latest SE headsets with advanced DSP and LCD displays.

I have the V3 BTH-8 OLED headset.. Sadly, it just shows the number but not the caller name for Dopod. Supposedly, it will be able to offer function to browse phone book thru headset, but I guess that's for other phones not for our wonderful phone

Globalsat BTH-818 . Much more moderate than the brick from Jabra. Otherwise same functionality (minus the vibrator). Much better battery time too.

Which one is the smallest bluetooth headset at this moment? I like small one.

I love my Sony Ericsson HBH-300 Akono headset. To be honest compared to some they make these days it looks quite large, but battery life is fantastic and sound quality amazing. I've never been a fan of the ones where microphone is nowhere near your mouth, but that's just me.
Oh and it's large enough so people can see I'm actually on a headset and not talking to myself, but not so large it's uncomfortable to wear (quite opposite!)

Great! Thanks for all your replies! I've placed an order for Tekkeon ET3000. It should be here by late this week or early next week. I'll see how that BT headset goes! 8)

seal said:
I have the Jabra BT250V and find it the best for me, I have not tried any other brands other than the Bluespoon AX (that was to hard to get on in a hurry and allthough its small I found it looked stupid hanging out of the ear.
I have a Jabra BT500 and love the shape but am having problems pairing it with my Jasjar it was fine for a while then after an upgrade I couldn't pair it with the phone. I also found it to be alot harder to hear than the BT250v and I love the vibration in the 250V as you know weather or not the bluetooth is still active as it is a bit unrealiable on the Jasjar.
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I don't know about you, but I had this headset and only had issues with this particular one. Mainly static. It just did not sound great, even with the device only a foot away I had severe static. I don't recommend this unit to anyone. Even my wife stated that I sounded as if I were in a tunnel.

Everyone I've had stinks.
I cannot recommend anyone to you since every one I've had really caused severe static. I've had the Jabra BT 250v and it had static, I have the Motorola H700 and again, static. I don't know if it's my Qtek 9000 bluetooth stack or what, but I'm using a wired headset without any difficulties and the sound is incredible. I am fed up with fighting with the bluetooth headsets if I can get two of the most popular (and expensive) ones to work with my $1000.00 "phone."

ronaldf117 said:
Which one is the smallest bluetooth headset at this moment? I like small one.
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Plantronics Voyager 640 and Jabra JX10.
I am somewhat "stuck' with a Motorola HS850 since it's the only one that works with MS Voice Command.

Motorola HS850 i been using, the boom is cool flick it in and out to answer/end calls. Its a good head set saves you from wearing it all day. It folds away nicely in you pocket and has decent battery life.
Only bad thing is though it takes alittle time to wake up once you lower the boom but always switched on works fine.

Hi
I'm using an (old) Sony Ericsson HBH200 and the big news is since i upgraded to the latest Orange ROM 1.30 (from Dopod 900), i can now get caller ID and access the phone call list from the headset. (PS:i have also a Jabra 800 and i did not manage to get the caller ID but i did not insist that much as i much prefer the HBH200). No need anymore to open my phone
cheers

Sailornono said:
Hi
I'm using an (old) Sony Ericsson HBH200 and the big news is since i upgraded to the latest Orange ROM 1.30 (from Dopod 900), i can now get caller ID and access the phone call list from the headset. (PS:i have also a Jabra 800 and i did not manage to get the caller ID but i did not insist that much as i much prefer the HBH200). No need anymore to open my phone
cheers
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You mean caller "NAME" or caller "NUMBER"? Which is showing? :?:

i've done some more test, it appears that the HBH give access to the call history including full names, phone number and date of outgoing or incoming calls.
Actually this is exactly the liste you can see in call history from the Universal.
That's something new from my former dopod ROM
On incoming calls, it seems that it still displays only the phone number not the full name, that is still to be confirmed for local numbers as i used internationnal call to make the test.

Bluetooth Headset that works with Exec?

This is my first post on this great fourm... guess that makes me a noob. lol
I have the O2 xda exec
rom:1.30.107wwe 4-11-06,
radio:1.09.00,
extrom:1.30.162wwe
SPB pocket Plus
Pocket Mec.
Opera
I have tried the Samsung Wep200, and the Jabra JX10...
Both headsets cut out and crackle if the Exec is in my pocket (same side)
or if im moving around holding the phone in my hand...
the only time they are usable is in the car with the phone still in the center console/
Anyone having any luck with bluetooth and the Exec in real world application?
Or is it inherent in the headsets I have tried? (tiny ones)
IF so, what headsets are working with good conectivity?
I dont need to leave my phone 30 feet away and walk around, but I want to be able to leave the exec in my pocket and use BT///
Also, are any BT headsets working with WM5's voice dialer? neither or the two I mentioned would///?
Thanks,
DJ Hurricane
myspace.com/Hurricanedj

How about the Stereo Bt Headsets? (Moto HT820, Bluant, Spider)
I read the Spider has an extended range... Maby atleast a stable connection/
Any direction appreciated
-Hurricane

The Pulsar 590A works OK as a phone headset with the Uni.
Note that you won't enjoy the A2DP sound "quality" of the MS BT stack with the 590A.

Seems big to lug for just a phone headset...
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globalsat 818
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Best BT Headset with voice command

Hey there. I've been looking for a good headset that works well with the TyTN.
What are people using?
What is known to work well with this unit? Do i need a radio/rom upgrade? i'm on 1.03 for radio.
I've began with the highend Sony which was crap, then moved to the Jabra 250v which has great loudness..but it kept breaking up & losing connection. (The handsfree would work once then need to re-establishing the connection to get it working again)
I really like the Jabra ear piece how it actually goes into your ear canal and hoping to find something else like that style.
Anyone other Jabra users care to comment? (breakup/disconnection)
Would moving from the Jabra 250v to the Jabra 500v make an improvement in its stability for me?

Nokia HS-12W is the best for me. But like the rest of us, in order to solve skipping and get better sound quality, you have to get fit4kat tweaker and TaskManager. BTW, the range for this headset is around 3 meters, go beyond that and the sound will start to break up

Best Bluetooth Phone Headset w/Vibrate

I am fairly new to the using the X7500.
Does anyone have any suggestions on which BT headset works best with this unit?
I would really like vibrate and caller ID type of feature since I would like to just leave my X7500 in it's case while I take the phone calls.
I also use Bluetooth headset for listening to music pretty extensively which would be different than a phone BT headset. I would hope that I could use both bluetooth devices with the x7500 at the same time.
Ok...what are your favorite BT phone headsets with vibrate?
Thankyou!

Most people around here have gone with the Jabra BT8010.

thomasz said:
It really depends on how much you want to spend on your bluetooth headset. Also how easy are you to be satisfied?
I would recommend the Aliph Jawbone 2 bluetooth headset. It has this "noise assasin" technology where it eliminates outside noise during your calls. So your voice and incoming calls are extra crispy. But this bluetooth ranges from $100+.
Here's a youtube video on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIq1ETJeky0
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Jawbone 2 does not have vibrate. Plus I spent all that money on it and found: (a) not comfortable to wear, (b) poor performance in staying connected, (c) people complained about quality. I'm not sure what it is about me, since others seem to love it. But for me, it was a tremendous waste of money. I moved on to the Sony-Ericsson which has been much better.
Jabra BT8010 did work well for me. But it's just so huge...
Another vibrating option is the BlueAnt V12. Which is a good value for the money. Mine broke and I wish I had just bought a replacement for it.
Final comment -- if you got the dough, look into the Sony-Ericsoon MBW-150 watch which vibrates and displays messages of all kinds. Then you don't need your headset to vibrate.

there is nothing smaller and more confortable than the Jabra BT8010
it's simply the best headset for any device

I appreciate the suggestions...sounds like Jabra BT8010 would be one to check out. I currently have a Motorola HS850 but people are telling me they hear an echo and it is driving them crazy.
Another question.....I am having issue with music playing thru BT headset receiver which is separate from my phone headset when my phone headset is also active with the HTC 7500 (waiting for a call). The music starts dropping some and becomes inconsistent. Thus, 2 bluetooth devices are active at the same time even though really...it is only the music BT player that is being used. Seems like my best bet is to leave BT phone headset off until I get a call and then turn it on. Anyone have any advice for me if 2 BT headsets active is a problem for music or other recommendations on how to handle this situation. Thanks!

Have you tried upgrading your radio ROM? I had awful bluetooth issues (crackling on my end and the other end) until I upgraded from 1.47 to 1.57. I'm now on 1.58 because it has a major data speed boost but I'm getting occasional blips on my end again. People on the other end don't hear anything, so with the speed improvement I'm sticking with it. You might try upgrading - maybe first to 1.57.

How can I tell what version my Radio ROM is? Then what is the best way to get the software to upgrade? I would like to learn how to do this.
Also, do I need to upgrade A2DP on my device?

When you first boot its one of the numbers on the lower right. I think its the middle number.
Or you can go into Start>Settings>System>Device Information
First you need to fully unlock your Athena. There are several threads on this here, one of them has the software. Then you need to find the thread with either the 1.57 or 1.58 radio. If you are often in a 3G area I recommend the 1.58 radio, you will get much faster Internet connections. Otherwise I feel 1.57 is more stable for bluetooth. Note that when you unlock and again when you upgrade the radio it will do a hard reset, so copy down any settings and back up any files before you do it, and wait to restore everything after you upgrade the radio ROM.
It would be a good time to try one of the many OS ROMS around here, if you are interested.