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Would someone suggest the best way to add WiFi compatibility to my XDA2?
Where can one obtain XDA2 accessories?
Regards
Nick

I use the WiFi SD-Card from SanDisk personally.
It works great, has a good connection stability and comes rather cheap wehn you compare it to the competition.
One caveat, however, the WiFi drains batteries very fast -90 minutes is the max.

tbd
I am using:-
"i-mate (ModelPH10B)" aka XDA II
Running Windows Mobile Pocket PC Phone edition (pre-installed)
ROM version 1.03.00 USA dated 09/24/03
Radio version 1.05.12
Protocol version 1337.12
I purchased the SDIO Wi-Fi card by SanDisk ("Connect Low Power Wi-Fi Card" - SDWSDB-000). I cannot seem to be able to install the driver on the handheld. The PC installation proceeds fine but the PDA screen freezes as it is installing. I have tried both versions provided in the companion CD (which are for PPC2002 and 2003). There is another version on SanDisk's site and it has the same problem.
It seems the Windows Mobile PPC Phone Edition needs its own driver. Any ideas? Which driver are you using? BTW, what did you pay for the card?
Thanks

SDIO Wi-Fi card by SanDisk - Drivers for XDA II?
The newest driver I can find on SanDisk's site is at http://www.sandisk.com/consumer/sdwifi.asp
and is called "Pocket PC 2003 V60 (new Oct. 10, 2003)"
It still hangs on my i-mate and the 'installing' screen on the PDA never progresses.
Any advice is welcome..

re
sorry, no advice but I have managed to get the sandisk wifi card working on my xda. I had no probs loading the necessary software.
Selected Quick instal on the start up screen then Pocket PC 2003, ensured my xda 2 was connected via cradle and active sync, then selected install the wifi utility.
Installed on the xda with no probs at all.
needed to change the device name afterwards.
Also have installed this http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=2825&associateid=148 and it's working great. Internet through my broadband connection at home and access to my mp3 collection anywhere in the house, well struggle upstairs tbh but I may need to move me router.
Not what you want to here but at least you know in can work.
Cheers, Shire.
PS XDA 2 just ges better and better.

Shire29
Thanks. Is your XDA II running 'Windows Mobile Phone Edition' or 'PPC 2003' ? Which version?
I noticed that some of the posts on XDA developers that PPC2003 is the pre installed version on sets sold in Germany.
Faisal

re
ummm well to be honest I'm not absolutely sure ?
Under /settings/about
Microsoft Pocket PC
Version 4.20.1081 (build 13100)
Proc: Intel(R) PXA263
Memory: 126.03 MB
Under /settings/device info
Version
ROM: 1.03.00 USA
ROM date: 09/24/03
Radio: 1.05.12
Protocol: 1337.12
In identity the model is PH10B
Not sure if any of that helps.
I have yet to confirm whether my device uses Pocket PC 2003 which is suggested under settings, or whether it is Windows Mobile PC 2003 which is suggested in some paperwork I have.
Hence I am confused
Cheers, Shire

Shire
All what you list matches what is there on my machine. Maybe there is a particular hardware or software problem with my particular machine. I will try a hard reset I guess.
What size is the setup.exe file that u used to install the drivers for PPC2003?
1,602,674 or 1,408,504 ?
Thanks for your help.

re
umm again not sure to be honest.
I simply ran the Sandisk Installation CD version 1.0 (a mini CD Rom).
The rest was as I described above, following the on screen instructions.
The only other suggestion I can make is that I have removed the O2Active app from start up.
Lastly, I have had a quick look on the cd rom and I do not see any files of that size.
There is a setup.exe in the English Folder on the disc and that is 1,376kb, but I didn't run from there, auto run took me to a front screen where I simply selected the english version for Express Install.
Cheers, Shire

Thanks for the replies so far.
I will consider the SanDisk SD WiFi Card.
Would someone advise where I can obtain this in the UK?
Additionally, is it likely that O2 are going to release something similar?
I notice a connection under the battery cover - any ideas what this is for?
I would very much like to add WiFi capability without an antenna protruding.
Aditionally, does anyone know if O2 are to release any other exciting accessories?
I got my XDA2 the other week and am very happy with it! Running it with a Jabra BT200 headset. Looking forward to the XDA3
Regards
Nick

http://www.mobiledatadirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=817
google knew
think there is comming a backpack but i'm not 100% sure
"Additionally, is it likely that O2 are going to release something similar?"
unless it's a backpack making it specialy for the xda2 it would most likely be a rebadget other product and such are often more expensive
if it's directly from HTC you cant buy it from any other source then the phone companys which a backpack would most likely be

Finally got SanDisk Wi-Fi SDIO card to work..
Finally got the driver for SanDisk Wi-Fi SDIO card to install!
It took many hard resets and various combos (Imaginet software at startup; bypass it; 'Arabizer' on; 'Arabizer' off).
Dont know what finally mattered but in case someone needs this info in the future, here is what the situation was when it worked:-
..Install on 'storage' rather than default location on device
..Guest partnership
..All pre-installed options selected (Imaginet package/Arabizer) - this is probably applicable to sets sold in Dubai only
..No other programs installed or synchronization done before this
..Even so, the installer on the i-mate froze while copying files but the program appeared in the list of installed items after forced shutdown of the SanDisk installation after a few minutes of waiting.
At any rate, seems to recognize the card and picks up wireless signal and pings etc. Havent had a chance to fully check it out with web browsing.

I was able to get the Sandisk SDIO Wi-Fi driver to install on my T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition, running the .21 build of the PPC2003 T-Mobile Rom, but it won't recognize the card when installed. I did see that the PPC Phone Edition is not on the list of supported devices from Sandisk, but for some reason I thought it would work anyway. Anybody know if that's the case?
Thanks

For what its worth I ended up downloading drivers for the Socket version. (Socket & Sandisk cards are identical). The Sandisk drivers would install on my XDA II, but the device would not pick up an ip address from my DHCP server. When an ip address was entered manually I couldn't ping anything on the LAN. Installed socket drivers from their website (http://www.socketcom.com) I think and it all burst into life. Used it for a couple of weeks now no probs. Am posting this from the XDA II using the wifi card - cool!

Thanks for the info but just tried that on my T-Mobile PPC Phone and the Socket driver doesn't recognize the Sandisk card. Guess it's eBay for me!
;-)

Just an update
SanDisk WiFi SD working fine now on the imate. Browsing, ping and all.

re
glad to hear u got it sorted faisal, although you appeared to have some difficulty there, but worth while i think :wink:
Cheers, Shire

Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion

I Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion every now and then. I have radio version 1.01.00 and rom version 1.03.00 WWE. My provider is Vodafone in sweden.
If I go to flight mode and back to normal then I can connect to GPRS again. Should I uppgrade my I-Mate to get it to work? Any Ideas what to do?

I've heard of people with similar problems, you need to upgrade your Rom, if you wanna stay relatively safe, upgrade to:
Rom Version: 1.72.00WWE
U can get this from club imate

I'm afraid I can´t find the rom on the Imate Club site. But you belive my problem will be solved by uppgrading the rom right? I´ll have to search for it then. ;c) Thanks.

I sure don't see any version 1.72 on Club iMate at JAM Device Support. The latest available upgrade I see is:
Radio 1.01.00
ROM 1.03.143 WWE
Where do you see version 1.72?
Frank

I believe he's referring to the wrong device. 1.72 was for the I-Mate Pocket PC - not the Jam.

Ok. I have posted a case to Imate and they where about to send a file to correct the problem but I got an emty mail.

Imate support don't know what this is. I'm back on the hunt. Anybody else having the same problem with theirs? Please let me know in this thred

Sincere Apologies, I was in fact dreferring to the I-mate....didnt realise this thread was under magician

Got an ansver from Imate. They sent me an PDF file where they showed me how to set up the GPRS connection. The problem is, been there and done that. I’m totally lost here. Is it only me who has this problem with “magican” and Vodafone? (In Sweden). Frustrating! ;c(
Note: With my P800 and the same location and same SIM = no probem at all.

I have the exact same problem with Vodafone gprs in Sweden
Hi Robert
I have the exact same problem with GPRS. I am also a customer of Vodafone in Sweden. I have this problem regardless of the device I am using. I have been running Qtek 2020, 8010, 9090 and S100 (magician) devices with the same problem for quite a while now.
I have started to think that this is not a device problem. It is probably a problem with Vodafone GPRS. I have contacted their tech support a couple of times about this. So far we have tried disabling/reenabling GPRS on my account and switching to new Sim-cards. None of this has worked so far.
I am using their twin cards service switching between different phones, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the problem.
best regards
Christofer

Thanks a lot for giving me this feedback. I'll talk to Vodafone right away.

Solution: I know that Telia supports the magican device because they have them for sale. My solution was to call Telia and tell them that I wanted to use them instead. Its a covards solution but Imate blames Vodafone and Vodafone blames Imate.

I have an old Qtek1010 on Telia, and it is behaving just like your Magician on Vodaphone. Sometimes I have to actually remove the SIM and put it back in again to be able to reconnect.
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...

bamse said:
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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My gprs connection seems to stay connected ok even when the machine is switched "off". I have an imate jam on o2 in the UK.
I don't know if it stays on forever because i tend to log off gprs so i can go on line through bluetooth.
Simon

This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.

I have several collegues who are not experiencing these problems with Qtek devices on Vodafone network. So it does not seem to be a general problem.

RobertDahlberg said:
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
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I just talked to Telia today as my GPRS broke down totally and there was just nothing that would make it connect. The person I talked to was very helpful and professional and we managed to isolate the problem to my SIM card. Being a brand new SIM I received just two weeks ago I though that just anything but the SIM would be more probable. It was very evident though as my SIM would not work with GPRS in neither mine nor a colleauges phone but the colleauges SIM would work just fine in both.
My new SIM will arrive on monday, and then hopefully it will not be too long before my S100 arrives as well

Ok, thats somewhat god news. Then there is hope to accually use this expensive piece of toy as it is suppose to.

Some input…
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny

Re: Some input…
Johnny said:
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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It will not. For two reasons:
1. There can only be one network connection at a time, and the activesync connection counts as a network connection (you can use network passthrough to use the activesync connection for network access from the PPC).
2. You can not have a GSM voice connection and an active GPRS connection simultaneously because they share the same radio hardware. Simultaneous GPRS and Voice would need two radios in the phone, and although it has been part of the GSM specification for quite some time there are no such device available on the consumer market yet.

Nw version of Agile (3) installed and it fails to connect

Hello all,
I had this Agile version from the news part of the forum and always refused to install the new version from the download site of Agile on my Jasjar.
Now I installed it, and the only thing I get with MSN is " All connections failed"
I used Agile quite a lot and am somewhat dependend on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

A bit slow at connecting but once connected, it just works perfectly.
Is Pocket Msn working on ur device? which Rom r u using?

ady said:
A bit slow at connecting but once connected, it just works perfectly.
Is Pocket Msn working on ur device? which Rom r u using?
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Yes, pocket MSN works.
I have the latest Imate ROM for the Jasjar.
Huib

Get the latest beta from www.agilemobile.com/downloads. That's what I am using without any problem.

ady said:
Get the latest beta from www.agilemobile.com/downloads. That's what I am using without any problem.
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Thats the on I am using.
BTW when I soft reset the Jasjar, and Agile is in the today menu I get a "cannot execute \program files\agilemessenger\messenger.exe"
message.
When I take it out of the today and reboot, no such message.The prgram runs in both situations, but... no connection.
Any idea?
I use version AMST-WMPPC-59
Does AMST stand for Amsterdam? Because I am in Romania now. But I live normally in Holland.
Remember having had problems a year ago with my nokia 9500. There was a relation with the SIM, because of payments.
Huib

it's the exact version which I am using. It does work unless of course if your service provider has blocked it. I have a same problem with another IM called verichat. It works on another service provider but not on teh one which I am using right not. And the customer support is dumb enough not to understand it.

So, I can continue with this Agile.
Thanks Ady for the help.
Huib

SANDisk WiFi Card connection challenge on XDAII with C Shekhar's WM5

Hi Friends,
I have been using cs-WM5. Its great and cool to use.
I am having XDAII/WM5/Sandisk Wifi card - SDWSDB-000 . It was having challenge in connecting to wifi with WM2003SE itself. But it was intermittnet.
After upgrading my XDAII to WM5, i could not connect to wifi. I am using the driver from sandisk web site. But is is old, 2003 version. Thats all they have.
I am in Singapore. Singapore is having free wireless from this month in most of the places.
Is anyone using this combination XDAII/WM5/sandisk wifi card and workingproperly?
Awaiting yuor experience/suggestions
Thanks CS for your great WM5 Rom.
Regards,
Waran
Singapore

Better if you ask to the sandisk company (support divison) for new driver, may be you have chance to use it.
Or you can try driver from spectec. And if you lucky (it has the same construction with sandisk), you can still use it with WM5. But let us know the result if you try this way.
But try with your own risk. In my oppinion is no risk to try... this is the link for spectec.
http://www.spectec.com.tw/Download.htm

Yeah, the spectec cards will work for WM5 PPC. They are designed to work on WM5 PPC.
I was trying to get it work on the O2 Xphone, thats when I learned from spectec that they will work on WM5 PPC but havent tried it yet

Sorry for the second post...
Waran,
Since u are from singapore, just go to east gear shop in penninsula plaza and tell them you want to try the spectec wifi card before buying it. they will also help you in installing the wifi software.
Hope this helps
Oh almost forgot to say that east gear is on the 2nd or 3rd flor in peninsula plaza.

Using wifi with a sandisk SD

Hi there guys Was wondering if any one can point me in the direction of how to set up my wifi card i bought two days ago, I just called TDMS - T-mobile and spoke to there well trained staff who said they dont have a clue what im on about, My MDA can search for spots no probs and pick them up, But for some reason i just cant connect at all, Do i need to assign for example a specific IP address or Even a certain domain?!?! I know there was a thread in regards to this, But ive looked and it takes me to no further than what im at just now, Any help would be much apppreciated.
Joseph.

Ok since i have posted my last "Q", I have tried my MDA without a sim card in, So my web and walk CANT start, tried using the wifi, But it seems that the MDA is still looking for the GPRS to connect over wifi first, Any solutions around this?! Help would be great
Joseph.

upgrade to wm6, there is a wifi tool integrated, try this...

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upgrade to wm6, there is a wifi tool integrated, try this...
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Ok thanks for that.

my wifi sd card also can`t work with wm6!

I have a i-tec SDIO Wlan and it is working better under clean wm6. Having some problems under original ROM. I mentioned the same thing - Charmer tried to connect over GPRS first. Under the clen new ROM with wm6 - there are no pre-deffined connections - wlan works much better. Maybe you needo to install some WM5 drivers to get it work.

I'm using the SpecTec SDW-820 (11 MBit) with my Charmer (T-Mobile Germany, WM5/AKU3.3) and it works quite good. However, from time to time it seems like Windows does not recognize the card. If I insert the card, just nothing happens at all. After a soft-reset, everything is fine again. Strange issue, since it's working most of the time without any trouble.

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However, from time to time it seems like Windows does not recognize the card. If I insert the card, just nothing happens at all.
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See that is what i get, The card dose work fine, but when going in to my exteneded memory, It shows no card is present, But i can still pick up hotspots with it

hi, does anyone know of a wifi card that works with the charmer running wm6?
gettin real bored of websites sayin they dont have one for wm6! cheers.