what do YOU think about this...?
whenever I am travelling, gprs cost in Europe is a big issue, so for my applications (manymanymany mails) gprs does not work economically.
so i had the following idea:
from abroad I send a mail via sms to my (home-)office computer.
this triggers my homoffice modem calling me under my numer in my hotel. (number could be included in the sms)
my XDA II is connected to a bluetooth modem which is in auto-answer mode... picks up... beeeeeeeeep connects an IP transparent protocol and...
bingo...
as my [email protected] acts like a gateway through broadband, my XDA II sees the world with web connection (pop3, smtp, nntp - younameit)
benefit:
my PC modem can call almost every hotel phone for a couple of cents per minute - worldwide.
compare this with a couple of bucks per MB GPRS in Europe!
who knows the software componets needed?
Regards
v
sounds great, tell me where to download it once youve written it! :lol:
I am willing to pay for the solutionas well, anybody else?
v
the idea is ok but it prolly wont work in reality since GPRS out of your coutry is only expensive with prepaid.
and prepaid has the disadvantage when im out of my country i gotta pay it from the border so for example :
dude 1 lives in the netherlands and calls dude 2.
dude 2 is on vacation in somewhere in europe.
dude 1 only pays upto the border the rest of way costs dude 2 his prepaid cash.
SmokeMasta said:
the idea is ok but it prolly wont work in reality since GPRS out of your coutry is only expensive with prepaid.
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Nope, GPRS roaming is expensive no matter what. You would not believe the rates these thieves charge.
The idea of calling to the hotel is great, and the bluetooth modem is a nice touch. I would add a foldable keyboard to almost get the full benefits of a well-connected notebook PC.
As far as the software components: receiving the SMS on your home computer takes a GSM phone connected to the computer, some means of receiving SMS on a regular line (offered in some countries, e.g. Germany), or some service that receives the SMS for you and turns it into an E-mail. Your own provider probably offers this already.
Then when you receive the message, you'd need to dial out. Under Linux/FreeBSD/*nix you would then have procmail (if the SMS comes in as a mail) kick off a PPP dial-out script that takes the phone number as an argument.
There's probably an easy windows scripting way of doing this. The Outlook 'Rules wizard' has an option called 'run a script' which looks like a good starting point if you can turn the SMS into an E-mail. Any Windows scripting gods to take it from here?
I think v doesn't mean to call his mobile, but a normal number in a hotel where an analog modem is hooked up to the XDA through bluetooth.
You could use the call back function of a RAS server achieve this.
You call from the hotel to your home server, enter the number where the RAS server has to call back to and you're up and running.
But the speed would be pretty low, even with a V90 modem.
Since I don't have a BT modem, I can' test it...
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Hi All, well hope some one can help, as have no hair left to pull out. Our company has various free phone ras dial in numbers. I am tring to get my xda to dial into these numbers to allow me to be able to access our servers using terminal services, when problem arise. (all legal here, Its my job)
Is this possible using the xda as the os for the procedure ?
If I use the xda in a cradle connected to a laptop then I can dial in no problem and use terminal services fine on the xda, but there seem little point when I have a connected laptop......!!!!! :roll:
What I would like to be able to do is dispose of the laptop and do it all on the xda, has anyone managed or is doing this.
Any ideas would be great, as have ran out of them.
Cheers
Waftycranker
Hey W.C. - Does your company have a public IP address that the Terminal Server is running on? I use the Terminal Services Client through GPRS all the time and it works great. I guess if you have to pay per kb with GPRS then I guess I see why you would want to dial in. I never tried the dial in method. Good luck - Jim
@JimDavis
I can't see what your problem is. (you did't mention)
I use that with my dial-in to my company
* Just setup a Cellular Line Connection (not gprs)
* Enter the Phone Number
* Enter your User/Password maybe Domain
and you are in
Maybe you need to modifiy the Linetype setting analog/digital (i.e. v.110 or v.34)
Does your provider support Data Calls on your Phone-Nr.?
Fidl
Hi Guys, thanks for the help, but still that darn computer system will not let me in. Dials up ok but just keep getting the error message " There was no answer at the number dialed. Varify phone number and try again etc etc etc"
Yet if I use my laptop at the same time, same number all is fine so I now the number and line and username and password and domain are ok.
May need some super glue soon to piece my xda back together again, know any good makes.
Any more ideas ? anybody
Wafty
Dial-in data call with XDA
Many GSM cullalar carriers who offer GPRS data packages block regular data calls over their network in an effort to push the GPRS stuff.
My carrier in Canada does this which gives me the exact same error you get.
Call your carrier.
Cheers... Peter
Will O2 be getting a call in the morning..... I THINK SO !!!!
Cheers, will let you all know how it goes. :twisted:
Wafty
Try checking the Proxy Settings tab under your profile. The "This network connects to the Internet" box should be unchecked. This may be why it only works with your computer. :roll:
Update
Contacted O2 and after 5 diffrent numbers and 30 minutes on hold, they are enabeling something their end. This will take 24 hrs, working days only.
Note: Noticed how payment and billing systems work 24/7 365 yet anything that will maybe help you works 9~5 Mon - Fri.... or is it just me.
Will update Monday :roll:
God knows why I thought that an service provider would be able to help, they are good at removing money from my account, but little all else.
Acording to them I have everything enables on my account, yet I stiil am unable to dial up using my company ras connection numbers. Still the same error message as before.
Could really do with checking settings etc with anybody who is able to dial up to their corparate network.
My mail is [email protected]
Cheers for any help.
There was no answer at the number dialed. Varify phone number and try again etc etc etc"
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Every time I've seen this it has been because the provider didn't have CSD (Circuit Switched Data) calls enabled. Can you try some other type of dialup modem, such as an ISP, just to be sure it's not your company? I'll bet they didn't really enable CSD.
It may be more than that. I am able to dial up to my company via CSD however my employee collegues using the same RAS service/company etc are unsuccessful.
Recheck the Proxy Settings tab under your profile.
The "This network connects to the Internet" box should be unchecked. This may be why it only works with your computer.
The other solution is to see if your company provides a VPN RAS. Ifso, you can dial up using GPRS. :roll:
I had this problem
Was trying to dail in and sync outlook
never got it working, but i cured the no answer thing by editing the the dailing location info. turned out that it was dailing completely the wrong number. simple stuff but worth checking!
Posted detailed set-up info in thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4723
T-Mobile US is nice to allow this and charge air time as if it were a voice call - you get nights and weekends for free data. 7Kpbs is not too bad surfing the net with graphics turned off.
Hi,
Thks for the reply, Is it possible to send a data through GSM(XDA II ) ?.
( with out using SMS command )
if possible means how i can do that ?.
in GPRS there is digital to analog coverter is there( am i correct ?)
the same converter is available in GSM as well or what ?
Kindly explain me in details.
regards,
Rajesh. S
What do you mean?
For network connectivity you can choose from either GPRS or Switched line.
With GPRS you get the fastest connection (maybe even 64kps). You pay per kB/MB datatraffic (up & down add up!). Price per kB/MB can be quite high.
With Switched line (cellular line) your speed is limited to 9.6kbps. You pay per minute/second connected.
Advantage (for me) is I can pay my switched line data connections from my monthly calling-bundle (ie. no extra costs)
Depending on your subscription you van make FAX calls as well. Those are always via Switched line, but most of the time have to be paid for separately.
Since your device also has a built-in modem you canb also set up modem connections, those are always via Switched line, and most of the time have to be paid for separately.
Hi Edsub
I've been trying to set my XDAii up to use up all those free minutes i have hanging about (just to check email) but have been unable to do so.
Any suggestions?
Oo, nearly forgot to say, yes, it is the circuit switched connection i'm trying to use - the question is how (this is, i expect, gonna depend mostly on the Orange UK connection settings which they have not been able to provide me with -perhaps one of the clever chaps reading this post may have suggestions)
ta
Happy new year, btw
You cannot use the orange connection settings. I bet they do not supply (cheap) dial-up access where they can sell (expensive) gprs access . . .
What I did is just get a free Internet subscribtion with 'an' ISP (doesnt matter which one really, youre only using them to get a dial-up number).
There is one trick (at least here in holland): Most free ISP's have dial-numbers in a special range and thus:
- cannot be dialed from most mobile devices (also a special number range here)
- if dialed do not fall into the monthly bundle
- cannot be dialed from abroad.
AFAIK in Holland the only ISP that has a special dial-up number for mobile/abroad use is Zonnet.
Maybe this issue is not the case in UK, but do check it before starting to puzzle.
For network setting you just use the settings as provided by the ISP
Aha! Cunning! I'm off on holiday tomorrow but will check it when i get back. Thanks very much for the suggestion.
Data Call over GSM ?
I've been trying to get some useful links on steps on making a GSM data call from a GSM phone to another GSM phone. But haven't been able to find a complete document with the AT commands that are required for making a data call. can somebody plz provide somelinks how data calls can be made between GSM phones? & how to receive the data call ? what AT Commands i have to use ?
thanks in advance
Rajesh. S
Sorry if you all already know this, but orange payg are offering unlimited gprs for only £1 per day, i've been using it for about 2 weeks and it's pretty good, it's a full data connection too so you can get emails or sync over the air etc. In my opinion the best part is that you can pick and choose when you want it.
yeah i'm on it too. The Orange Unlimited GPRS extra for £1 thing right?
People signing upwith Orange to get this extra,REMEMBER, the gprs extra runs out at midnight, regardless of what time you apply it!
Applying it at 23:00 is just plain stupid cos you'll have to re-apply the extra at 00:00 anyway.
I've got a contact stored on my XDA that is assigned to a speed dial key. When pressed, it automatically re-applies the extra.
To do the same, create a new contact & give it this phone number: 450p#p3p1p4p1p1
The call to 453 should take about 45 secs, after that your extra should be applied
THE GPRS DOES NOT INCLUDE DOWNLOADING OVER P2P PORTS!!! almost everything else works fine (ftp, http, https, msn messenger, e-mail-etc) but using p2p costs you money, regardless of whether the extra is applied or not.
anyone know of a PPC app that dials a contact at a scheduled time and disconnect after X seconds? would be real useful for this
does that mean i cud use skype on it?
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does that mean i cud use skype on it?
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No, gprs is to slow for skype. My T-mobile gprs is about 40-50kbits/s. (flat-fee for 9,50 euro's a month )
sorry but what why can i use?
im looking into all thsi mobile net stuff but need to find the facts before i lay out money
if i try to get info in store they just try and sell,me stuff i dont need
Well its about the same speed as dial up, so you can surf the net (albeit slowly) and you can use MSN and collect email. its useful but its no replacement for wifi or 3G. I use it when I'm at work (i do a lot of waiting around)
Are you sure you are right ???? GPRS
Ive just picked up an orange sim and yes the £1.00 per day unlimited offer still stands but its for orange world , not other services . I thought from the original thread that this would give me GPRS access to the web ?
Can you confirm what service you have been getting with it ?
Im looking for a basic internet connection I dont mind slow but I do mind £2.35 and upwards per Meg .!!!
Any thoughts
Astro1
I can confirm (with 390 megs of GPRS used under my belt) that it works with any http address.
Haha, if the service worked with P2P, orange'd have been raped for bandwidth by now.
Hi,
I'm using a lot more data than my O2 Online tariff has available. I've tried getting them to add a Data5 or Data36 type to it unsuccessfully - the best I can do is add a Surf10, which is what I've done, we'll see if that pans out any better when it is meant to kick in at the start of next month.
However, I've got 500 minutes of GSM access per month that I don't and have never used, and am wondering whether I can utilise that to collect eMail or something. I've tried using the phone numbers I've found on the web for the GSM access, but the Exec always complains that there isn't a modem at the other end.
Has anybody got this set up to work, or been successful in getting a better data tariff for an ONLINE account?
Cheers,
Steve.
GSM works for me
Hi Steve - I just set up a new connection using standard dialup account settings and had no problems connecting. This wasn't the O2 dialup (because I couldn't be bothered to look their details up) but an ordinary ISP.
The only problems you may have is whether the 0845 numbers of most ISPs come within the remit your tariff - and if you use the O2 number (which I seem to remember is a short number) that might also fall outside your allowed calls.
John
yeah, that's my point really - it would be nice to utilise the free GSM minutes I have on my tariff to do something useful - they are just mounting up and up, and meanwhile my monthly bill is going the same way.
I think the T-Mobile Web & Talk (or whatever they call it) is where I'll be going next - I've just got another 6 months to wait - may be O2 can sort something out data-wise by then?
Cheers,
Steve.
but until then ..
But until you move steve - I'm pretty sure there are still one or two dialup ISPs with geographical numbers that you probably could use your minutes with - in fact BT used to have one - google should turn one up.
ok, but does that count as GSM minutes, or voice minutes?
Cheers,
Steve
may have changed
A couple of years ago it counted as voice minutes when it was a geographical number even tho it was data transfer (there again I've never understood how they can tell the diffrence when its just gsm, tho I think they used to have a 'blacklist' of the major isp's numbers so they could charge data rates for calls to them) - but they may be wise to it now - you'll just have to see!
Hi guys,
I want to use my HTC Wizard to call out on the "normal" or DSL phone line when I am at home. This beacause all phone calls to all national non mobile numbers are free.
My PC is connected to the DSL Modem (ZYXEL P-2602HW-D1A) and with a modem connected to the phone out put of the modem and to the normal analog line.
Is there any one who has experience with this?
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Hi guys,
I want to use my HTC Wizard to call out on the "normal" or DSL phone line when I am at home. This beacause all phone calls to all national non mobile numbers are free.
My PC is connected to the DSL Modem (ZYXEL P-2602HW-D1A) and with a modem connected to the phone out put of the modem and to the normal analog line.
Is there any one who has experience with this?
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The answer is likely to not be as easy as you expect, although it may not be that hard.
Your modem may or may not work, when you do voice over a modem the modem needs to know this and not demand a carrier tone and other things that signal a data connection. Some modems are known to work in this capacity others are known to work very poorly (lots of echo) and others are known to not work at all. The majority of modems are not known whether or not they will work at all.
In short the easiest way to accomplish this task is to send data from your phone VoIP to your PC. There are free clients out there such as sjphone from sjlabs.com. You will likely want a headset on your phone as most dont use the same speaker as a regular phone call but instead the speakerphone and echo cancelation doesnt work well (the remote side will hear echo without headphones).
Now that your phone is taken care of you need something on the other side. Here you have choices. If you have a compatible modem you can use that as an FXO card with software like asterisk.org and soon freeswitch.org. If you do not have a compatible card, or do not wish to run VoIP software on your PC you can get an ATA that has an FXO port and lets you route calls to/from it. Grandstream.com has some, the HT486 comes to mind. I believe the linksys pap2 will also do this. Ebay may be your friend in locating a fairly cheap one, although they arent that expensive - and you are doing this to save money so depending on the number of calls you make it may pay for itself soon
Once you have this set up, you can actually choose to call people via your mobile plan or landline or even an internet based telephone company. Depending on how well you configure everything, you could in theory have it use all of those things, and you can even route calls from those services to your phone (ie get phone numers all over the world and answer them on your mda when you have internet).
All your mda needs is wifi/usb/gprs. And for those providers that block VoIP on gprs shame on you (and they generally dont block vpn traffic or even know what the contents of that are
Port restricted Cone NAT
Thanks for your support.
The WIFI way with a direct connetion to my Modem will do for now, but I have got the following problem there.
The error that is displayed is the following:
NAT/Firewall: Port Restricted Cone NAT
The settings which I have entered are the same as in my Modem:
Zyxel: P-2602HW-D1A
Provider Tiscali
Anybody who knows how to solve this or who has experience with VOIP provided by Tiscali or other ISP using your HTC Wizard