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Problems going from 4.00.16 ROM to anything else....

Hello All,
I recently upgraded my T-Mobile PPC to ROM version 4.00.16 (from version 3.14.40). I loaded it via an .exe created on Yorch. The installation worked without a hitch. The problem is, now I would like to reload another ROM version and cannot seem to figure it out.
This is what I have done so far: Floowing some of the post in the forum, I have:
Created a new ROM image (.nbk or nb1) on the Yorch website of the lastest official T-Mobile official ROM (version 3.14.40). Using theXDA tools program, I loaded the .nb1 file onto my SD card. When I try to load it onto the PPC, I get the message asking to format (yes/no) and I choose no. After that, I do not get any other messages on the PPC.
Is there some different type of bootloader protection in 4.00.16 that would prevent the bootloader from seeing the boot image on the SD card?If anyone else out there has ran into this problem or knows how I can get around it, I would greatly appreciate any help.
Thanks,
SB :lol:

Hi All,
After a little more investigating, I was able to flash the ROM on my PPC.
I read in a previous post that you could determine your ROM and bootloader version by powering on the unit while holding your stylus in the reset hole (the soft-reset hole- not the hard reset hole that is closet to the ear-phoe plug).
Anyway, I did that and noticed that my bootloader version was version 5.15 instead of version 5.17 which I thought was causing the problem. I then reset the unit again using the same method, but just held the reset button just a second longer and the boot loader menu came up and asked me if I wanted to flash the unit.
I hit the center key of the directional button and it started to load the ROM image I had created earlier and placed on the SD card.
So for whatever reason, it did not start automatically but started and ran fine once I kicked it off from the bootloader menu.
Thanks for the help that I know you guys would have provided if I hadn't stumbled across the answer.
Regards,
ssurfer :lol:

I am happy to hear that you solved your problem. These things can be a tad tricky, eh...
jta

Stuck on v2.00.x bootloader

I've managed to get myself stuck up a dead end.
My device: Orange UK spv c500.
SPL: 2.00.0013
OS: None!
I upgraded to wm2005 but despite updating the reg keys posted by subliminal I couldn't install the certificate I use to ActiveSync with my Exchange Server; so I decided to downgrade.
I immediately realized my first mistake - I didn't have a backup of the old ROM on SD. Instead I downloaded one from a link in one of the forums and used psdwrite to put it on my SD card. I ran the update, but it failed and the device wouldn't start.
My next mistake was to try and re-flash the 'phone with the latest Orange UK ROM (v4.2.1.1). What I'd forgotten was that this updates the bootloader at the same time.
The flash appeared to go fine, but on restart I'm stuck in the bootloader. When I attempt to re-flash again the summary in the RUU says "Image Version:" ie no image version present.
If I was still on a v1 bootloader I'd be able to run IU_SPL+PatchedRUU again to give me an IU mode bootloader. With a v2 bootloader I can run this as many times as I want, but it won't put a lower version on.
Without an IU mode bootloader I can't "r2sd spl" to use itsme's dowload tools. Without a working OS I cant use TyphoonNBFTools to flash the SPL.
Can you think of any other solution?
If there was someway to "con" the rom update process into installing an older version of the SPL I'd be OK. Alternatively if it was possible to change the version of the SPL in SPVDEVS-SPL.nbf I could get it on.
Thanks for your help.

robhughadams said:
I've managed to get myself stuck up a dead end.
I immediately realized my first mistake - I didn't have a backup of the old ROM on SD. Instead I downloaded one from a link in one of the forums and used psdwrite to put it on my SD card. I ran the update, but it failed and the device wouldn't start.
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did you tried this rom backup with your card writer i used this one with psd write and it worked download this one and try it ;-)
greets { ps let me know if this time you sucseeded ;-) }
http://rapidshare.de/files/2633600/backup.rar.rename.html

Help.. after 2nd ROM can't flash a 3rd

I have searched the forums but can't find anyone that has had a similar situation. I have downloaded and flashed two different ROMs to my phone so far. Now I want to flash a third, but when I go through the process of doing the flash, strange things happen and the process fails... I don't want to make a wrong move here and end up with a brick so I will explain exactly what happens and maybe there is some easy fix. First, some details on my phone:
Whenever I power up my phone, I see two splash screens (one from each of the previous ROMS I have flashed to the phone) displayed sequentially. (I am sure this is part of the problem... but not sure how.)
The Bootloader lists the following information:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.10.0lipro
And I am using ActiveSync v4.5.0.
Finally here is what happens when I try to flash a new ROM:
0. Downloaded the new ROM (in this case RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3_1_.57.502.1_6275_1.48.00.00_108-ATT-MR3_Ship).
1. Sync the phone with my PC using ActiveSync.
2. While the phone is still synced I fire up the upgrade utility that came with the above mentioned ROM.
3. I go through the steps, it recognizes the current ROM (in this case ProBlack 3.0.1).
4. Then when the progress bar shows up, the phone simply turns off. After a little while, I get an connection error message from the upgrade utility (of course because the phone just shut off).
Again there is probably a very simple fix. I think I need to be using a different flash utility instead of the one that is coming with the ROM.. but in that case how do I use an official ROM (like the official Cingular ROM) with a different flash utility?
* Opps.. my mistake, this should probably be posted in upgrading forum *

OK, I don't know an answer, but seeing as you've had no replies in a few hours I figured a hint that may or may not be right is better than nothing!
Is the ROM you're downloading an official one, or a cooked one from here? I'm sure I heard something about official ROM flash programs not recognising the Olipro SPL, so not flashing. In this case, you had to extract the .nb file from the official package, put it in a folder with the CustomRUU file and flash using that.
Might be worth trying redownloading the ROM (in case it's slightly corrupt) or trying a different cooked ROM to see if the problem is the phone or the file.
Sorry it's nothing conclusive, but I hope you end up finding the problem.

Please help - bricked XDA Orbit II

Hi, first post on the forum so please be gentle with me....
I have an XDA Orbit 2 which was until last Thursday working fine with the last official upgrade from O2 (Win 6.1, no idea about all the other stuff).
Whilst using the phone last week it suddenly died in the middle of a conversation. It wouldn't power on at all. I took out the battery, waited a couple of minutes, put the battery back in and switched it on. All that happened was the phone displayed the 4 colour screen with "POLA200 SPL-3.13.0000 CPLD-2" in the red section and "Serial" in the white. I repeated the battery removal exercise a few times, waiting for increasing lengths of time but nothing changed.
I had a fairly long search through the forum and have tried for a few hours now going through the various fixes suggested but I am getting nowhere.
It won't hard reset, all that happens is the message "No Image Found" appears for a very short time and I then get stuck on the 4 coloured screen with the message above.
The same thing happens if I try just putting the thing in bootloader mode.
I can't use any of the official O2 rom upgrades as the phone because all the PCs I've tried connecting to it won't recognise it over a USB link.
I've tried connecting to it using mtty, again on several PCs, but I just get a message "USB port can not open". Just in case I've uninstalled Activesync on one PC and got the same answer.
The "how to flash you polaris using the microSD card" originally looked useful but I have some problems with it.
The first is that I need HardSPL installing on the device, which I can't do because I can't get to it.
The second will be down to me not knowing where to look, but I can't find a ROM to download and copy to the microSD card as POLAIMG.nbh. I did manage to find a Win6.5 one (the HTC Polaris - PDaviet rom wm6.5 manilla 2d (core 23004) by tranminhman one) which I thought I'd try. I guess the idea was that if I could just get something working I could always reflash it again with a different ROM or maybe apply the o2 upgrade. Unfortunately the image was password protected and I couldn't find the password in the thread.
I'm kind of at a loss now so any help would be appreciated.
Cheers

Hey,
Sorry i can't help much you'll need to do a lot of reading and troubleshooting...usually it's the onyl way to solve it by trying all options.
I'm just posting this message to bump it up in this forum, but more importantly you should be posting in the Iolite section for help with that specific device especially if you're trying other ROMs.
Also if it died on you and you haven't begun to flash it, can't you send it to the service for them to fix it for you? That way you can rule out any hardware malfunction.
Best of luck!
Alan

Did you do soft reset

alanazar said:
Hey,
Sorry i can't help much you'll need to do a lot of reading and troubleshooting...usually it's the onyl way to solve it by trying all options.
I'm just posting this message to bump it up in this forum, but more importantly you should be posting in the Iolite section for help with that specific device especially if you're trying other ROMs.
Also if it died on you and you haven't begun to flash it, can't you send it to the service for them to fix it for you? That way you can rule out any hardware malfunction.
Best of luck!
Alan
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Bit in bold er... cant quite understand why in iolite section as the xda orbit 2 is the rebrand htc touch cruise => htc touch find. Its in the right place.
On the side of what to do i the ony thing i can think of would be mtty and if that didnt work then try to reflash the official o2 6.1 release and see what happens when you try to do it.
You cant try to install any 3rd party roms they jsut wont flash as you dont have hard spl installed and cant do that until you have it running again.
Try the above and see what happens...

Hi Nik
I have tried just about every kind of reset, nothing has worked.

Hi Alan
If I can't get it sorted any other way I'll probably send it off somewhere but I'd like to have a go at fixing it myself. It will at least be a bit of fun!
I take then that I've posted this in the wrong forum. Oops, apologies.
Jon

You have not posted in the wrong forum look at my signature!

Hi jon,
Conclusion from post 1,
1) Uncompleted flash with new ROM or hardware problem (half way die)
2) Unsuccessful flash Hard SPL (cannot see Olinex 2.2 wording during bootloader)
3) Your PC & PDA fail to connect via USB (serial wording appear during bootloader)
Try this method,
1) Get shipped ROM from HTC web site, key in your country & serial behind battery
1a) Extract shipped ROM by WinRAR , take RUU Signed.nbh
2) Rename to POLAIMG.nbh put inside SD card, "flash using SD card"
3) Make sure your battery power more than 50% cause it take about 2 hours
Good luck, my friend
[Your request Password: TranMinhMan]

Nik Ahmad said:
Hi jon,
Conclusion from post 1,
1) Uncompleted flash with new ROM or hardware problem (half way die)
2) Unsuccessful flash Hard SPL (cannot see Olinex 2.2 wording during bootloader)
3) Your PC & PDA fail to connect via USB (serial wording appear during bootloader)
Try this method,
1) Get shipped ROM from HTC web site, key in your country & serial behind battery
2) Rename to POLAIMG.nbh put inside SD card, "flash using SD card"
3) Make sure your battery power more than 50% cause it take about 2 hours
Good luck, my friend
[Your request Password: TranMinhMan]
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Thanks Nik
I've had a bit of a look round the HTC site and couldn't see a ROM to download so I've asked their technical support people if there's anywhere to download it.
Fingers crossed they'll help.
Jon

jonfsharp said:
Thanks Nik
I've had a bit of a look round the HTC site and couldn't see a ROM to download so I've asked their technical support people if there's anywhere to download it.
Fingers crossed they'll help.
Jon
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Try to get official HTC ROM here, Select WWE (405) CID_001 for your country.
Good luck my friend

have u tried this?...
turn off, pull out the battery, then put it back, charge ur phone till the battery indicators shows green (which mean it's already fully charged) then... power on ur device.
it looks like a dumb suggestion , but... i have had a same situation
(HTC KAISER, not Polaris).
if it doesn't work, then try to upgrade with a POLAIMG.nbh (take it from official HTC ROM)
in a 2G FAT32 microSD root directory.

Nik Ahmad said:
Try to get official HTC ROM here, Select WWE (405) CID_001 for your country.
Good luck my friend
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Thanks Nik
Much appreciated.
Downloaded the ROM as suggested, unzipped to the SD card, renamed the image to POLAIMG.nbh, stuck it in the phone and things got slightly more interesting.
In bootloader mode I now get a bit further. I get a grey screen which says "Loading ..." then "Checking...." then "00028002 Not allow". It then goes back to the four coloured screen as before.
However, does the fact that it is trying to read something mean that I have just got the wrong file?
I'll try a few more and see what happens.
Thanks once again, your help is greatly appreciated.
Jon

Hi oza
Yep tried all the battery pulling out stuff but got nowhere.
The ROM thing on the SD card gets further. I extracted the ROM from the official O2 upgrade, stuck it on the card and renamed it POLAIMG.nbh.
If I put the phone in Bootloader mode I now get even further than before. I get a grey screen with:-
POLAIMG.nbh -
RADIO_V2 -
BOOTLOADER -
SPLASH1 -
OS -
Press power button to start update image
Press action button to cancel update image
If I press the power button
I get an "Update In Progress" message and a progress bar.
After about 4 minutes I get a full progress bar and :-
POLAIMG.nbh - OK
RADIO_V2 - OK
BOOTLOADER - OK
SPLASH1 - OK
OS - OK
Update complete
UPDATE SUCCESS
And that's as far as I've got so far.
If I take the SD card out and try a hard reset I just get stuck on the 4 coloured screen I got before, but with no No Image Found message.
I get the same thing with bootloader mode and when I just remove the battery.
If I put the SD card back in I can go through the update process but I can't do anything
else.
So, have I actually made any progress? I'm not actually sure what I have updated and what state the phone is in at the moment. Is the fact that this didn't work an indication of a hardware failure and I should send it off somewhere.
Any advice on next steps would be good.
Jon

what is ur bootloader screen says now?
IPL...
SPL...

Before you can be helped you need to supply this information:
What rom were you using when it died?
What SPL are you using?
You used MITTY and fixes so I assume you're not a complete nunce and have hard spl on your phone, so on that assumption and ONLY if you have hard spl on your phone, try this:
If it isnt a hardware problem, then Its possible you have a dodgy radio flash issue - normally that would have been caused by a bad flash, but you indicated that this happened in use.
Provided it isnt a hardware, to fix this you need to either flash the radio (less reliable, but try it) rename the radio file to POLAIMG.nbh as directed before and stick on SD card.
The other thing to try is to flash a rom with a radio INCLUDED in it. Try and avoid fancy 6.5 beta roms and stick to 6.0 and 6.1 basic roms.
I believe Chavonbravo's VLIT roms come with the radio so try that. Its listed in the forum. I'm not providing links as I dont know what radio you were using and you really need to go for like to like or close. My preference is 1.59.44.02 radio rom if you find one.
Let us know how you do.
Lastly what radio and rom did you have?

Try this one M-AMINES if the radio you had was a 1.59.xx radio as it has the radio included.
if it was a 1.65.xx radio then try the VLIT naked rom.

oza_crazy said:
what is ur bootloader screen says now?
IPL...
SPL...
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Hi Oza
Exactly the same as it did when it first broke. I get the 4 coloured screen with "POLA200 SPL-3.13.0000 CPLD-2" in the red section and "Serial" in the white.
No idea what the IPL is or was I'm afraid.
Jon

bally3 said:
Before you can be helped you need to supply this information:
What rom were you using when it died?
What SPL are you using?
You used MITTY and fixes so I assume you're not a complete nunce and have hard spl on your phone, so on that assumption and ONLY if you have hard spl on your phone, try this:
If it isnt a hardware problem, then Its possible you have a dodgy radio flash issue - normally that would have been caused by a bad flash, but you indicated that this happened in use.
Provided it isnt a hardware, to fix this you need to either flash the radio (less reliable, but try it) rename the radio file to POLAIMG.nbh as directed before and stick on SD card.
The other thing to try is to flash a rom with a radio INCLUDED in it. Try and avoid fancy 6.5 beta roms and stick to 6.0 and 6.1 basic roms.
I believe Chavonbravo's VLIT roms come with the radio so try that. Its listed in the forum. I'm not providing links as I dont know what radio you were using and you really need to go for like to like or close. My preference is 1.59.44.02 radio rom if you find one.
Let us know how you do.
Lastly what radio and rom did you have?
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I've not been a big modifier in the past so it was just using the bog standard O2 software from the O2 website. The name of the file is "RUU_Polaris_O2_UK_3.13.206.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe" so I presume that there can be information gleaned about things like the SPL, ROM and radio versions?
Not a complete nunce, no, but so very far away from being comfortable with all this. This post was a result of a good few hours trawling through the forums looking for help. Anything I have done has been the result of a post on this site and I am very grateful that there are people willing to share their knowledge.
Anyway, as for hard spl, nope it isn't installed. I'd never needed anything like it before the phone died and now that it has died I can't get onto it to install anything.
Yes, this happened right in the middle of a conversation after a good year or so of normal day to day use. As I said, I haven't needed to make any changes to the phone so the only thing I've ever done is upgraded it with software from the O2 site.
I'm beginning to suspect that without Hard spl my options are very limited and pointing towards either sending it off for costly repairs or just binning the thing. I am probably wrong but I'm guessing that the fact that I don't have it installed is the reason why nothing is happening with the "Update in progress" stuff that is happening now.
Radio & ROM, as above. Whatever the O2 update provided. From the filename radio would be 1.59.42.15.
Many thanks
Jon

jonfsharp said:
I'm beginning to suspect that without Hard spl my options are very limited and pointing towards either sending it off for costly repairs or just binning the thing. I am probably wrong but I'm guessing that the fact that I don't have it installed is the reason why nothing is happening with the "Update in progress" stuff that is happening now.
Radio & ROM, as above. Whatever the O2 update provided. From the filename radio would be 1.59.42.15.
Many thanks
Jon
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Well whatever you do dont bin it, we can always use it on the Android project if you decide to go that way.
Ok.. so lets see.. the phone is not picked up at all in windows?
If that is the case, if even a serial connection cant be made then theres issues. At this point, I would disregard all the other advice as it only applies to a hard spl device unfortunately. SD card flashing and all other radio rom flashing will only work with hard spl as far as I know - definitely safer for certain and you dont want to wreck a repairable device.
I take it, its not under warranty, for your mention of costly repair.
The important thing at this stage is a serial or usb connection from a Windows PC. I think I have heard of forcing this connection by opening the device but this would really be in the realms of profficient repairer or enthusiast.
I'll have a look but also do some searching yourself for making a connection to a Windows PC and forcing an SPL onto a phone.
I dont know whether anyone's ever managed to HardSPL a phone using a memory card? Just a thought...

Who would have known.. have a read of this and see if you can follow it up regarding the spl through sd card ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3273438&postcount=7

official at&t callerID update bricked my phone.. :(

after my phone rebooted once the update was complete, it wont get passed the "at&T World Phone" white screen... SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!! i was using a stock at&t pure with the stock rom. i can not upgrade hardspl or ANYTHING any suggestions on how to get my phone to boot? hard-reset went through with no signs of failure but it still will not boot up after that finishes... sorry if its something im overlQQKing, but i just cant figure it out. n yes i have researched although obviously not enough at this point. Thanks to anyone who can help in advance. forgive my stupidity!!!

......
noone?????

The HTC Pure updates hosed my phone too, I had already applied hard-spl to my Pure and i've flashed it with dozens of roms. Since I was currently using one of the "Stock" AT&T roms posted on XDA I figured I could apply the updates. Unfortunately after applying the update my phone froze at the boot loader. I was forced to flash my rom using the memory card method and then restore a backup.
you could try putting the phone in SSPL mode manually, (reset button+volume down), the run hard-spl hard-spl in manual mode.
you can then flash your rom using the memory card method. (FAT32 formated memory card, rom file renamed to topaz.nbh copied to root of flash card, reset button+volume down to enter SSPL, power button to confirm flash).
All this assumes you've already tried to hard reset your Pure (reset button+vol up+vol down)

Thanks for the reply! Unfortunatly, i tried the manual method and after it hanging at 0% for about 5 minutes, i keep getting error [262] update error.. (communications error) is this becuase i can not sync with mobile device center (win7)? I really dont want to just have to toss the phone! I have had an at&t tilt, at&t fuze, and now the at&t pure, and this is the only phone i have had this problem with for some reason...

Try Unplugging Your Pure From the computer Take Out the Battery Put the Battery Back in Mean While Restart your computer and Press Power And Volume Down At the Same time on your Pure If its on the colored screen your good,..Make sure your system is online and your not downloading anything and plug in your Pure to the computer it give it about 2 minutes to download the HTC USB driver then once its done your phone will say USB on the bottom of the Red Green Blue And White four color screen Then open up one of your ROM's and Flash it,....Do You Have Windows Mobile Device Center Installed?
If Not here is the Link
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/device-center-download.mspx
If you do already you need to uninstall the Driver update for windows mobile media center then install it again .

i can get the bootloader screen just fine! i just can not get hardspl to flash onto it. it sits at 0% every time. the phone will not boot so i can NOT get into mobile device center. The tri-colored screen comes up with no problem and it says USB on the bottom, so the drivers are already installed. I even tried hard-reset and still no luck

There was an additional cab file I needed to install to HSPL the Pure
"enablerapinew.cab"
basically the machine just would fail to load the HSPL without it
but it still functioned afterwards, does yours?
Do a search on XDA find and DL the cab (or I could attach a zipped copy)
If you can still access the device,
just copy enablerapinew.cab to any temp dir on the device
the execute it through fileexplorer
then go back to installing the HSPL (mine then worked fine)
If you haven't already, You should go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520312
you'll find troubleshooting info and a link to the extra cab there
If you really are bricked at this point , it sounds like nothing has actually
been changed on your device yet? its just frozen should be still under warrentee? Unless anyone else has a better suggestion you should be
able to return it for exchange to ATT
Good Luck
KJL

It sounds like Windows is not properly recognizing your device when it is plugged into the USB port while in SSPL mode.
Have you tried different ports?
Is there another computer you can use?

another thought about returning under warranty
on the boot page of the stock Pure it indicates HSPL 1.83.000
After you update the HSPL it will say HSPL "1.83.Olinex"
this normally an indication of a successful update,
but it will probably void your warranty if they just look at the boot screen
This is true for all Pure (and Tmobile Compact V) Rom upgrades
The Stock Pure came with 6.5 and therefore the 1.83.00 HSPL
The Diamond2s did not, so their solution which reverts to 1.63 <?>
will not correctly revert to 1.83.00 on the Pure.
No way to correct this yet as far as I know,?
All the "reverts" are geared toward the Diamond2s, not the Pure.
But If your boot screen indicates 1.83.00 before it freezes
I'm fairly sure its still entitled to a warranty repair/replace
How could they tell the cause of the failure
was a reburn as opposed to natural causes?
Good Luck
KJL

When you put the phone into a manual bootloader mode... Mobile Device Center becomes obsolete.
HardSPL is only needed for unofficial roms. Forget HardSPL for the time being. The goal here is to get your phone operational. Just download the official HTC WM6.5 WWE rom and flash that. Put phone in manual bootloader mode and run the Rom installer.
As long as your phone is in bootloader mode and says "USB"... then your set to go.
Another solution is to try another PC. You'd be surprised how often that will resolve your issues. Perhaps find an XP machine and install Activesync (so it loads the bootloader USB drivers). I had to do that on several occasions when my main PC refused to flash my mobile device.

I did both of the updates htc has for the pure. Both worked fine. I am on the origianal rom. It does reboot your phone and stays on the white screen for a min then it loads the update and the phone starts.

The offical ROM comes back with a wrong vender ID error I guess cause its a "pure" and not the HTC branded "topaz"... NOW what should i do??? Seems like i NEED hardspl so i can flash any ROM, as from what i researched, there IS NO AT&T Pure rom that has been released. I still cant figure out why a hard-reset will not work though.... This is REALLY starting to get me angry!!!

Just for reference, the Pure's ID is TOPA210 32M
SPL-1.83.0000
The official hotfixes worked fine for me as well. Did you apply the hotfixes on the original ROM that came with your Pure?
Also, does the official HTC Touch Diamond 2 ROM work for you? If so, the hotfixes for the Pure are irrelevant, as are any future updates released for the Pure. You should look for updates for the Touch Diamond 2 on the Worldwide HTC site.
If you needed to do a warranty claim, the closest you can get to returning your phone to stock/shipped form is to use the ROM dump using HardSPL and hope they don't notice that the SPL is different. Currently, there's no way to return the Pure back to completely official software.
A hard reset simply wipes everything off and restores everything back to what is contained in just the ROM you currently have on it. If you've flashed your phone at all, you've already wiped out the original ROM that came with it.

It is still the STOCK ROM. I have never flashed it yet.. The topaz rom will not flash due to a vender ID error. The spl is still stock also... i think thats is why i am having this problem. I bought the phone off craigslist so returning it to AT&T is NOT an option either way. My only solution is to find a fix. (or trash it) I really appreciate all of your suggestions and input so far. You guys are by far the best board around! I am a LONG time follower, but a few-time poster. Obviously i have little to contribute to the board.

Can I trouble you to dig up a few version numbers? It'd help evaluate your situation so we can see which options are best for your case.
ROM version? You can find this in Device Information. Start --> Settings --> System --> Device Information
Bootloader version? Do a soft reset while holding down the volume down button on the side until a screen with red, green, blue, and white, ordered top to bottom, shows up. It should be the second line starting with "SPL-..."

The ROM is the STOCK AT&T ROM (again...) I CAN NOT go to start;.... because if you noticed in the first post, the phone will not boot past the white "AT&T WorldPhone" screen... the spl is stock also incase you missed that part. (1.33.0000) I have never flashed the divice. EVERYTHING IS HOW AT&T SELLS THE PURE OUT OF THE BOX! NO MODS. NO FLASHED ROMS. NO HardSPL... NOTHING! STOCK!!! (for those overlooking the details in my previous posts) I have no doubt you guys (n hopefully a few girls ) will help me fix my issue. I'm just REALLY anxious for it to happen sooner than later!

Have you tried downloading the official rom here on xda and renaming it to TOPAIMG.nbh and update using the sd card method?
Here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600339
The download is in post #1

I have downloaded the official ROM. Although I thought it is still concidered "custom" and that you need spl updated to install it... Am I wrong about this? Also, by using the SDcard to flash, do I NEED to have hardspl on the device? If yes, I can not use this method, as I have stated before that the spl is still stock and NOT updated in any kind of way. NOTHING on the phone has been updated or flashed. Will this method still work then???? I am at work for 3 more hours and then will go home and try it either way and come back to update you all on the results. Again, THANK YOU for your continued support in helping me out!! At this point, I will send a donation via paypal to whoever can get me out of this hole!

jromeo350 said:
I have downloaded the official ROM. Although I thought it is still concidered "custom" and that you need spl updated to install it... Am I wrong about this? Also, by using the SDcard to flash, do I NEED to have hardspl on the device? If yes, I can not use this method, as I have stated before that the spl is still stock and NOT updated in any kind of way. NOTHING on the phone has been updated or flashed. Will this method still work then???? I am at work for 3 more hours and then will go home and try it either way and come back to update you all on the results. Again, THANK YOU for your continued support in helping me out!! At this point, I will send a donation via paypal to whoever can get me out of this hole!
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You can flash hard SPL the same way by renaming the .nbh file to
TOPAIMG.nbh

jromeo350 said:
I have downloaded the official ROM. Although I thought it is still concidered "custom" and that you need spl updated to install it... Am I wrong about this? Also, by using the SDcard to flash, do I NEED to have hardspl on the device? If yes, I can not use this method, as I have stated before that the spl is still stock and NOT updated in any kind of way. NOTHING on the phone has been updated or flashed. Will this method still work then???? I am at work for 3 more hours and then will go home and try it either way and come back to update you all on the results. Again, THANK YOU for your continued support in helping me out!! At this point, I will send a donation via paypal to whoever can get me out of this hole!
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Actually that is supposed to be an officially signed rom. If that is true it will work with the stock spl. It will either work or it won't. Also, as stated in the response after yours, you can apply the hardspl via SD as well.