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[Q] Battery Life

Hello Guys,
I have a new Samsung Focus, around 3 days old.. I have been given a 1650 mAH battery. The battery life is terrible, discharges like 10% in one hour with hardly any usage with Wifi OFF, Edge ON, auto brightness and all the power saver methods applied.
Should i charge it overnight or something ? Like 12 hours at a stretch or something?
Pls help

I'd take the battery out and feel it. If it's a Samsung battery, it should be perfectly flat on the sides. I was having terrible battery life, and it was because the battery had gone so bad that it was bulging.

samsungfocus12 said:
Hello Guys,
I have a new Samsung Focus, around 3 days old.. I have been given a 1650 mAH battery. The battery life is terrible, discharges like 10% in one hour with hardly any usage with Wifi OFF, Edge ON, auto brightness and all the power saver methods applied.
Should i charge it overnight or something ? Like 12 hours at a stretch or something?
Pls help
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Can you please detail your WP7 OS build, if it's an OEM Samsung battery or a generic one? It looks like you have a bad battery, same conditions as yours my one year+ OEM battery holds 3days+
There's also a specific thread for battery life I started a while ago over here

The battery is curved on the left and right sides, flat on the top and bottom. Its a SAMSUNG battery EB575152LU 1650 mAh. I am not sure if its OEM or generic
OS version : 7.10.7720.68
Should i ask the seller to send me a 1500mAh NEW battery? mayb thats causing the issues?
Or I should wait for a few charge cycles to complete?

samsungfocus12 said:
The battery is curved on the left and right sides, flat on the top and bottom. Its a SAMSUNG battery EB575152LU 1650 mAh. I am not sure if its OEM or generic
OS version : 7.10.7720.68
Should i ask the seller to send me a 1500mAh NEW battery? mayb thats causing the issues?
Or I should wait for a few charge cycles to complete?
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With the infos that you just shared, it looks as the battery has gone bad.
I wasn't aware of an OEM battery 1650 mAh, see my reply here. Can you confirm it looks like that or maybe post a photo of it?
Keep in mind that cheap batteries look like those but there are significant differences, but you'd need an original battery for comparison.
Even one of my chinese cheap batteries still holds 70-80% of the regular battery... (that's 2+ days in the conditions you mentioned above)

It looks just like the one in your post, except for 1650mAh. Looks like original/OEM Samsung.. will send pics once i get home.
Morning charge was at 100% . Hardly any usage, some amount of whatsapp texting, now phone is switched off
The seller has agreed to send a replacement battery. I am just hoping that it is not a phone fault or Mango update screwed it up. Can it be a phone issue?
Checked on amazon, one guy said The battery does not hold charge, otehr said that NEAR FIELD COMMUNICATIOn should be written below Samsung, which is not the case in mine.

samsungfocus12 said:
It looks just like the one in your post, except for 1650mAh. Looks like original/OEM Samsung.. will send pics once i get home.
Morning charge was at 100% . Hardly any usage, some amount of whatsapp texting, now phone is switched off
The seller has agreed to send a replacement battery. I am just hoping that it is not a phone fault or Mango update screwed it up. Can it be a phone issue?
Checked on amazon, one guy said The battery does not hold charge, otehr said that NEAR FIELD COMMUNICATIOn should be written below Samsung, which is not the case in mine.
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7720 has quite good battery life so shouldn't be a phone issue. I have 2 Focuses and both hold about the same and from what I've read so far, only a big hardware problem (like phone overheating) could cause so dramatic battery discharge. Also, weak network signal might cause faster drainage, but not at this rate. You can try switching 3G off (lowering to EDGE) and see if it makes any difference.

Hmm.. I even turned off 3G. Let me check again.
If I install any customs WP7 roms , will it make a difference.?
I 'll re check once i get the new batteries..
Thanks for your help. Appreciated

samsungfocus12 said:
Hmm.. I even turned off 3G. Let me check again.
If I install any customs WP7 roms , will it make a difference.?
I 'll re check once i get the new batteries..
Thanks for your help. Appreciated
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The dft/miro custom roms offer better battery life, but by a margin, don't expect miracles. Your battery should be able to hold more than a day in your conditions, and I bet that's to blame in your case.
Let us know how it goes with the new battery.

Thanks for your help.
Now, the battery life has increased quite a bit.. getting around 12 hours on a full charge using the same 1650mAh battery . new one is yet to arrive.
Heard 8107 update considerably increases the battery life? but i have ATT uncloked focus in India. If i use ChevronWP7 to unlock it , it gets relocked on zune sync right? I am confused as to "relock" here is whether Carrier relock like I cannot use my local GSM sim here? or developer relock? I am sorry, new to all this

samsungfocus12 said:
Thanks for your help.
Now, the battery life has increased quite a bit.. getting around 12 hours on a full charge using the same 1650mAh battery . new one is yet to arrive.
Heard 8107 update considerably increases the battery life? but i have ATT uncloked focus in India. If i use ChevronWP7 to unlock it , it gets relocked on zune sync right? I am confused as to "relock" here is whether Carrier relock like I cannot use my local GSM sim here? or developer relock? I am sorry, new to all this
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Read my post here. Ignore any flashing, just understand the steps and what's written there (eg: Flashing, downgrading, upgrading firmware etc does not affect Network Unlock).
Basically, after you unlock with WindowsBreak project, you just need to run steps 3 and 4 there.

what is the most powerful battery out there for our focus??? any suggestion?

alejandroelmej said:
what is the most powerful battery out there for our focus??? any suggestion?
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Read this post on the battery life thread. It's a Samsung EB625152VA (OEM) battery of 1800 mAh. There are others labelled with more mAh, but many are scams, rebranded.

hi, i got a Samsung EB625152VA (OEM) battery of 1800 mAh.
But it seems the back cover doesnt fit so properly with this battery inside.
Do i need to do any modifications in order to make it fit ?

15% in 1 hour
While surfing in internet via wifi, in 1 hour it drains 15% of battery, is it normal?

aFaridun said:
While surfing in internet via wifi, in 1 hour it drains 15% of battery, is it normal?
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Continuous browsing/data transfer, yes, it's about normal.

Help! Bad battery life from day one. Possible causes? Faulty hardware?

Why my G2 has such poor battery life?
A year ago, I bought G2 F320 from China. It was supposed to be brand new retail box set, but it arrived with fake back cover, some tiny scuffs at the edges, and of course knock-off accessories.
Also, the screen had three whiter spots which were only visibly on black backgrounds. They are permanent and look like pressure marks.
Anyway, that all was not a big deal. The big deal was that from day one I had terrible battery life. The only things I used phone for was light web browsing, notes, occasional photo. I never had any games or benchmark stuff on it.
No matter what ROM I tried (all Cloudy variants, KK, Lollipop) I got max 20-24h battery life with 1h30o Screen On Time. If the SoT was less than 1h, I would occasionally get 48h or battery life. I recently tried BlissPop and Resurrection Remix with CM13 (Marshmallow) and although it worked gloriously well, the battery life went down by half: 10-24h, depending on SoT.
From day one I set up some extreme battery saving tricks, blocking wakelocks, disabling services, minimal brightness, the phone went into airplane mode every night for 6 hours. And the above is max I got.
And at the same time I read that G2 has such phenomenal battery life, with some reaching SoT of 6+ hours, while most getting 4-5+ hours. And that was WITHOUT all the powersaving stuff I did!
Sure, f320 has a 350mhA of a battery, but that in no way should account for such results. In fact, all reports from f320 owners I found said battery life was not much different form the d802 etc.
I even tried running it without an SD card, but there was no discernible difference.
So, the obvious conclusion was: bad battery. Right? After all, if the seller replaced the original back cover with a fake, why wouldn’t he do it with original battery. So I recently got an original LG replacement battery at a local GSM shop. It was sealed, had QRcode on it and was supposed to be original. Seller advertised it can be verified at any LG service center, though I never did.
Anyway, after using this new battery for a more than week, doing all the “calibration” tricks, and letting the phone get used to it, I can tell absolutely no difference in battery life.
So, assuming the battery is good, what are the other options? Could it be that there is something wrong with some internal component? I was thinking that since the excessive drain seems to me connected to SoT, perhaps it’s the screens fault? Perhaps apart from having pressure marks, it has a flaw which causes it to drain more power than it should?
If that is likely, then I would be willing to replace it. But if this is a shot in the dark, then there is not much sense in shelving out 50% of how much the phone is worth for just to replace the screen and get not difference.
What do you think?

Try to full charge then plug off the charger then calibrate (battery level will be drop suddenly)
Charge again until %100 then calibrate again then charge again...
Do it 3-4 times until FULLY charged and making calibration won't cause drop of battery level, you're done.
Make this process ONCE and that make battery some kind of overcharge so use your own risk!
Then charge normally use of 2-3 charge cycle shows correct battery level and that makes a little battery time.
(Fully usage of my phone 5 hours and that trick makes 5:30 hours with d802)
Install wakelock detector (maybe you've done this) or install xposed framework with Amplify, both detects wakelocks (Amplify can block wakelocks, alarms and services)
Try to romtoolbox lite to stop recievers from AUTOSTART MANAGER. Especially google play services consumes a lot of battery (~%30). Block if not using or recieve notifications from "that" app.
Deleting own apps of LG helps too (if you're using stock)
Hope it helps

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lynxrz said:
Try to full charge then plug off the charger then calibrate (battery level will be drop suddenly)
Charge again until %100 then calibrate again then charge again...
Do it 3-4 times until FULLY charged and making calibration won't cause drop of battery level, you're done.
Make this process ONCE and that make battery some kind of overcharge so use your own risk!
Then charge normally use of 2-3 charge cycle shows correct battery level and that makes a little battery time.
(Fully usage of my phone 5 hours and that trick makes 5:30 hours with d802)
Install wakelock detector (maybe you've done this) or install xposed framework with Amplify, both detects wakelocks (Amplify can block wakelocks, alarms and services)
Try to romtoolbox lite to stop recievers from AUTOSTART MANAGER. Especially google play services consumes a lot of battery (~%30). Block if not using or recieve notifications from "that" app.
Deleting own apps of LG helps too (if you're using stock)
Hope it helps
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nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO

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Yeah, thanks, but I have done all those things when I first got the phone and then did them many, many more times over the last year. So did I with the new battery.

bromoxitos said:
nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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Sorry to ask. Can you tell me where did you get the original battery? Thanks

bromoxitos said:
nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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i got same SOT on icerom final... bur on google ediiton i could get over 6 hours..

albsat said:
Sorry to ask. Can you tell me where did you get the original battery? Thanks
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here in my country a few shops they have some stock staff from old phones like g2 so i buy it.

raptorddd said:
i got same SOT on icerom final... bur on google ediiton i could get over 6 hours..
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and what about battery calibration??? what app you use?

bromoxitos said:
and what about battery calibration??? what app you use?
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dorimanx kernel app. it has battery calibration schedule for friday or saturday one a week..

Is this battery consumption normal?

Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.

paco_ramirez said:
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.

Zer0b1ade said:
Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Thank you very much for your information. Any suggestion about a new battery? I've seen this one.
I've just plugged off from 100% and I got a battery drain of 5% just by speaking 15 minutes (no hand-free). I think it's a very big battery drain for just a small talk. I think that confirm your hypothesis of the wasted battery.
Is there any way to know the real capacity of the battery I currently have? It is just to know how far it is from its original performance.

I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.

paco_ramirez said:
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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How old is your battery? Mah rating and the rate it discharges are different you can discharge 2600 mah batter in an hour or 3 days depending on use and environment and conditions. Like I said before the hotter your battery gets the faster the disharge go same with the cpu the hotter it gets the more power it demands from the battery. And if your battery get under 20% fast charging comes. Into play as well which is bad for the battery as well.
If your dropping off that fast I think is a defective battery or over clocked cpu settings. My s5 did he same till I bought a new battery I last 8-12 hours of heavy use now compared to 4 hours. With a new battery I suggest a higher capacity but same dimensions as the old one they can be expensive but a bigger battery will damage your phone over time.
I have a 5600mah battery now by 5he way.
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Oh my power app tells me I have 2520 too but I really dont....heh
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Oh that battery looks OK I can't read the language lol just make sure its not refurbished or used and check out if u can refund it or not lol

My battery is from October 2015. It's the original one that came with the phone

Here is last report:
Despite performance is not the worst, do you think the difference with a new one is very big?

Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind
I myself lose the first ~10% of my charge in one hour or even less...while not doing literally anything with my screen off. So yeah, maybe it's gonna be time for another replacement in a few months
By the way I tried Greenify today. The drain was far worse than when I didn't have it installed lol. Android Marshmallow is finally that one guy who's capable of handling himself alone without helpers like Greenify so try without it, it eats up your CPU anyway (as minimal as it can be, it still does).
With 3G always enabled I can get between 3 and 4 hours of screen on time (no games ofcourse) and around, idk, 10 hours total time until it hits below 10% and asks for some juice.
This^ was simply impossible with android 4.4.2 on the same phone so 6.0.1 really impressed me a lot as I had awful memories of Lollipop (that's why I didn't update for so long actually).
To sum up: try all the software ways of extending your battery life - with/without Greenify, uninstall/disable/optimise certain apps like Facebook and Spotify (says they slow down my phone), change ROMs, change kernels, change settings and if nothing works get a new battery.
PS: When Samsung go back on track and put a removable battery + all old features in a new flagship, I'm switching to that (S9, S10, SX, whatever xd). Newer phones got water cooling (~30 degrees while gaming, S5 gets 36-40C).

Thank you very much for your long answer. Honestly I don't trust too much battery savers. I've tried in the past many of them with no visible results. In fact greenify has never shown me any benefit. Notwithstanding, in this specific case, I've seen that hibernating "mi fit" (from xiaomi) I can appreciate a considerable improvement (5-10% of gain). I own a mi band and apart from keeping Bluetooth on (which seems not to be a big drainer) mi fit abuses of this connection. In fact "tools & mi band" seems to be more energy efficient with the connection to the mi band.
In any case I'll order a new one as it is not normal to have the drain for 100 to 90 being off and idle

I've changed old battery for a new one and I haven't seen any considerable improvement. After it, I've done a factory reset and a battery calibration (using the app on the store that requires root) and nothing... Any suggestion? I have the feeling that new battery is OK but somehow my phone is unable to take advantage of its performance...

koragg97 said:
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind :..
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..

Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!

paco_ramirez said:
Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)

tm60405 said:
Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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koragg97 said:
Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!

paco_ramirez said:
Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.

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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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OK I'll go ahead with this. Good guide to reflash stock rom?
I'll do several factory resets to see if it helps, but I start to think that it's black magic
Thanks

Sorry for the delay in replaying but I've made several attempts with not specially good results.
Now I'm getting 24 hours battery with 2h SOC for WhatsApp and browsing. Furthermore, I use Bluetooth for the miband.
The battery drop from 100 to 90 still remains. Maybe it's smoother but significant.
I've changed battery, changed roms (several times wiping everything). I've tried battery calibration app from rooted devices. I've tried the calibration procedure for non root devices (here I think I've obtained a little bit of improvement) but in general I have the feeling my phone is not detecting well the capacity of the battery (either new or old). Any tip? Advice?. Could it be the charging circuit? Can it be fixed? Should I keep doing calibrations more often to see if I grasp more capacity little by little?
Thanks for your time and help

Poor battery no matter which rom

I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?

KLit75 said:
I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.

Triscuit said:
Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.
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Yea. Thats my biggest fear. Ive replaced small parts before but my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be so Im afraid I might mess it up. Plus I'll need to buy a heat gun.
I'll be more than a little pissed if the battery's shot. This phone is barely 14 months old. Either give us a decent battery or make it replaceable.
Thanks for the info btw. I just installed the app.

Update--Im switching things up a bit. Recently I made some changes and this time I flashed a new rom without some of those changes.
1. I had switched from Action 3 to Nova
*HIGHLY doubt nova is eating up my battery so Im still using it BUT I did remove a widget that has weather. Since I keep phone on device only location, I think theres a chance its always trying to find my locale and consuming battery.
2. I didn't add a gov profile yet.
3. This is the first time in about 4 or 5 rom flashes I didnt flash CTT Mod.
* Again I doubt this is causing battery issues but Im gonna hold off flashing it. No throttling thus far.
As suggested Ill be monitoring with accubattery for a few cycles. But been using my phone about 90 mins this morning (at least 90% of that time actively using with screen on) and I've lost 13%--a huge improvement from yesterday.

KLit75 said:
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6

v12xke said:
Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6
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Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.

Franco Kernel

KLit75 said:
Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.
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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)

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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)
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Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?

KLit75 said:
Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?
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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.

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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.
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Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing.
I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health.
But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity).
I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.

KLit75 said:
Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing. I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health. But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity). I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.
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Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.

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Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.
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Thanks for the support! I checked that thread and didn't see specific parts (inexpensive ones you referenced) If they're listed Ill look again. It doesn't seem too daunting. I was able to replace the screen on my son's WiU controller. Those were very tiny parts and YES--I did snap off a clip, however I was able to fudge it and it's still working about a year later.
Far as RMA, does anyone know if they replace it with the same crappy stock battery? From my perspective this seems like a clear case where a recall is in order.
But if its the same battery, Im just setting myself up for the same problems 8 to 12 months from now. Even if I buy a new phone Id still want to sell this one and thats not as easy with a crap battery. Plus theyd have my phone for x days so Id need to find a temp phone in the meantime.
Don't mean to jabber on...this sucks.
Oh yeah...cuz it was after hours I sent an email to support last night. Do you think Ill get a response? Or should I just call when I have time to be on hold?

Spoke to a clone at Huawei then asked to speak to the clone's supervisor (wasn't sure if clones had supervisors--they do. But the programming is identical.) Long frustrating phone call and they aren't going to replace my battery because its out of warranty...by 4 f#@&ing days!
I told them they lost a customer for life and I was being 100% sincere. How could I ever buy from people who thinks it ok to sell defective crap, know about it, then do nothing to make things right?
I'm gonna replace the battery on my own. Whether things go good or terrible, one thing is certain--itll be the last time I ever replace anything on any product made by Huawei.

S10+(SM-G975U1) battery life went bad

Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><

You might need to take it somewhere and have a tech look at it or contact Samsung on it or claim warranty with Samsung.

See if it does it in safe mode.
Probably a rogue apk(s)... a software issue.

okay i'm going to give a try on safe mode

it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.

Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung

zackyo said:
it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.
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I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
In Developer options look at running services.
Also in the same look at Standby apps; all buckets should show as active. If not then power management** is active, disable all power management; Android will manage it's self nicely.
Enable only the "Optimized" option for display/cpu and fast charging in Device Care.
Use the factory load version of Device Care if on Pie. Firewall block it though after which use it's system cache cleaner.
Download Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker from the Galaxy store.
Download Karma Firewall from Playstore.
Consider using this: https://www.packagedisabler.com/
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
**track down the roque apks one by one and deal with them without using power management options.

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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i completely agree with you
there no point replacing the battery like i did
Li-Ion/Li-Poly can't go bad in just 1 night unless it blow up or something
even my previous note 5 battery can take charge day in day out for over 3years without needing a new battery.

blackhawk said:
I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
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i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.

zackyo said:
i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.

blackhawk said:
Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.
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agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
blackhawk said:
Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.
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i totally understand what you meant xD and yeah hopefully that won't be necessary.

zackyo said:
agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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I haven't been a saint with the 10+'a battery but the insults add up if you do it every day.
Likewise being conservative with the charging and temp parameters should too.
It will be interesting how long this battery lasts as I use the phone a lot.
Accubattery to spite it's faults is a good monitoring tool. It's charge reminder is handy and it's milliamp overlay has been useful.
It also logs charge/discharge milliamps and times which is probably the best battery indicator.

speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device

zackyo said:
speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device
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Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...

blackhawk said:
Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...
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okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet

zackyo said:
okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet
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Disable Android updates. Only update after others have given feedback and you have more to gain than loss. Once you update you may well need to start this witch hunt all over.
Androids are fun to play with... go to it

noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?

zackyo said:
noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?
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Depends what you want. If not sure, play with this one for a while.
I'm still running on Pie on my 10+ so I don't bother looking much at updates.
I'm not pleased with Q though so it's a no brainer to stay with Pie. At this point I have near zero issues, it's fast, stable, it does all I need it to do and runs the apps I use well.

zackyo said:
Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><
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Dial *#0228# in telephone app , and a advanced-looking app will pop up, click on quick start, neglect any warning messages.