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Are any of you experiencing light bleed like the ASUS Transformers are experiencing?
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I did with a dead pixel... I called Samsung and they will repair it.
But what about light bleed specifically?
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Is the Sammy panel edge lit like the asus?
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yes.... check out the other threads.. people are reporting them with lots of tablets. The black bleeds yellow.
I just sent back my Transformer, and preordered this tab. The sleep issues and the light bleed are no worth getting that device. I tried to talk to tech support and they told me to take out the battery. that I could turn it over and pop it out like a laptop battery. Then they told me basically that if I didn't charge it for 8 hours it wouldn't work. ASUS Tech support was a nightmare. Samsung was a little slow with updates to my captivate... But I still love em. If this has a little bleed I wouldn't be too worried with it. It's the nature of backlite LED screens. It even happens on high end monitors and TVs. Until they come out with something else... It's going to be an issue. you just have to keep sending it back until you get one that doesn't bother you... that or turn down the brightness. In order to get it to do it you really need to crank up the brightness and walk into a dark room. IMO that's not to practical for normal use.
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leyvatron said:
yes.... check out the other threads.. people are reporting them with lots of tablets. The black bleeds yellow.
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I didn't see that black /yellow bleed thing. I would like to see that. I would just send it back.
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I didn't see that black /yellow bleed thing. I would like to see that. I would just send it back.
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Light bleed usually only visible in the dark with dark screen backgrounds. I saw a review today on YouTube from mobile tech review and when they show some movie clips you can faintly see bleed lower right and right side.
this is what I was asking about
leyvatron: yes.... check out the other threads.. people are reporting them with lots of tablets. The black bleeds yellow.
I haven't seen that yet. Where the colors are messed up like that.
Luckily no dead pixels and no light bleed.
my limited edition tab has backlight bleed and a dead pixel, I wonder if I can even get it repaired or not...
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my limited edition tab has backlight bleed and a dead pixel, I wonder if I can even get it repaired or not...
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Yes you can...search some of the other threads for the io support link.
Bought a retail version at the Union Sq Best Buy here in NYC, one spot on the screen (less than a square inch) would show "liquid" under the screen when depressed (I noticed it when I was wiping my fingerprints from the screen). Exchanged it hoping to get a grey model,but got the white one again.
Well that one had a slight light bleed on the button left corner and was only noticeable when the honeycomb controls disappear.
Today I exchanged it for another one, and it looks like a keeper.
No light bleed or dead pixels, at least none that I can see. Hardwarewise my tab seems perfect.
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Mines the new 32g model and I don't notice hardy any bleed at all on the screen... even after carefully examining the edges and trying to view at angle to see under the bezel I don't see anything I would call a bleed issue. Actually also having an Ipad I love screen on the new 10.1
I have both and I have absolutely no bleed and dead pixels on the GT.
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same here, no bleed and no dead pixels. I can actually us this as an snooker reader now. the TV and load don't get dark enough. I read with red text on black. even at fu- brightness there is no bleed.
I have light bleed in the bottom right corner. I noticed it right off the bat. I'm exchanging it tomorrow. Let's hope the next one doesn't have the issue!
Yeah, thought mine was perfect, then noticed in the top right corner there is a spot about 1“ square. Didn't notice it until I booted up in a room with dim lighting. I might go exchange it out.
The first Nexus 4 I received was a rev10 I got that shipped the third week after release. It has a perfect calibration with beautiful popping whites and dark blacks. Unfortunately, I had the issue where a portion of the screen would tint yellow (about the size of my thumbprint) after it heated up.
This annoyed me so I got an RMA phone and it turned out that the entire scree was an ugly yellow even without heat. This was shipped to me from jan 1-7 I forget the actual date but it was recent. It also had a sluggish vibration issue that annoyed me. I sent it back and they sent me another RMA phone that arrived on the 14th and what do you know, it also has a yellow tint to the screen. The colors are much darker compared to my original screen as well and I tried color calibration apps but they just don't look as good as the original. This phone is a rev11 if that matters.
Do all the newly made phones have color issues? Or are there well calibrated ones out there and I should keep on RMAing?
The new screens just don't look as good and are really ugly. Someone let me know if they have a good screen
If you figured that out from an extensive poll of people then I'd understand that conclusion but from 2 RMA that's just plain stupid!
My screen is white as can be, compared to One X its looks insanely good, the One X colors pop and are really vibrant though
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the first nexus 4 i received was a rev10 i got that shipped the third week after release. It has a perfect calibration with beautiful popping whites and dark blacks. Unfortunately, i had the issue where a portion of the screen would tint yellow (about the size of my thumbprint) after it heated up.
This annoyed me so i got an rma phone and it turned out that the entire scree was an ugly yellow even without heat. This was shipped to me from jan 1-7 i forget the actual date but it was recent. It also had a sluggish vibration issue that annoyed me. I sent it back and they sent me another rma phone that arrived on the 14th and what do you know, it also has a yellow tint to the screen. The colors are much darker compared to my original screen as well and i tried color calibration apps but they just don't look as good as the original. This phone is a rev11 if that matters.
Do all the newly made phones have color issues? Or are there well calibrated ones out there and i should keep on rmaing?
The new screens just don't look as good and are really ugly. Someone let me know if they have a good screen
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o am jee :d
SlasheI2 said:
Do all the newly made phones have color issues? Or are there well calibrated ones out there and I should keep on RMAing?
The new screens just don't look as good and are really ugly. Someone let me know if they have a good screen
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My screen is perfect. You should maybe change the light bulbs in your place..
I have a revision 11 and a revision 10 which is going back due to speaker crackle. The screen on my revision 11 looks cooler but I certainly wouldn't have described either as being yellow.
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It goes away after a couple days...
As ctowne said, it goes away after a while. It's the glue that is used to laminate the glass and display.
Mine was pretty yellow at the start, however a couple of weeks on, and it's absolutely fine now.
Yes let us assume that the two phones we received is indicative of all phones. Makes sense.
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ctowne said:
It goes away after a couple days...
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lambomanx1 said:
As ctowne said, it goes away after a while. It's the glue that is used to laminate the glass and display.
Mine was pretty yellow at the start, however a couple of weeks on, and it's absolutely fine now.
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+1. Mine was yellow. After a few days, the screen is normal. Rev. 11.
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As ctowne said, it goes away after a while. It's the glue that is used to laminate the glass and display.
Mine was pretty yellow at the start, however a couple of weeks on, and it's absolutely fine now.
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+1. Mine was yellow. After a few days, the screen is normal. Rev. 11.
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Yeah mine went away within 3 days at the very most. Also, you can adjust the screen settings with fauxclock if you really want to tweak it. As long as you have uniform yellow on the whole screen then don't worry about it. If certain spots are yellow after a few days then you might have a problem.
To those of you whose yellow tint went away, was the yellow tint uniform over the entire screen before it went away?
I just got my rev11 RMA, and I've only got a yellow tint on the bottom half of the screen. Should I expect it to go away over the next few days?
Also, just holding it side by side with my rev10, I have to say, in addition to the yellow tint, the rev11 just seems a little bit less clear and a little bit less sharp. Could be because it has the factory Google screen protector on it, I guess, whereas my rev10 has an SGP crystal clear on it.
On the plus side, the light bleed is improved on rev11. Nowhere near perfect, but signifciantly better than my rev10.
If the yellow tint goes away, I can live with the rev11. If it does not go away, it will be another RMA.
I got a Rev11 one, but never had a yellow screen from the start. I guess i've been a lucky one..
When I did my RMA, my rev_11 had a more yellow tint to it on whites.. I could really tell on apps like SMS...
colors look OK and I've gotten used to it..
My rev 11 doesn't have a yellow tint.
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phositadc said:
To those of you whose yellow tint went away, was the yellow tint uniform over the entire screen before it went away?
I just got my rev11 RMA, and I've only got a yellow tint on the bottom half of the screen. Should I expect it to go away over the next few days?
Also, just holding it side by side with my rev10, I have to say, in addition to the yellow tint, the rev11 just seems a little bit less clear and a little bit less sharp. Could be because it has the factory Google screen protector on it, I guess, whereas my rev10 has an SGP crystal clear on it.
On the plus side, the light bleed is improved on rev11. Nowhere near perfect, but signifciantly better than my rev10.
If the yellow tint goes away, I can live with the rev11. If it does not go away, it will be another RMA.
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All 3 of my phones have had an uneven yellow tint. I RMA'd a rev10 first which had a brighter and cooler screen than the two replacements, but and uneven tint along the bottom 1/3rd. My rev11's, the one I sent back and the one I have now have a less bright display, and the one that went back had half of the screen horizontally yellow tinted, this one has yellow tint in the bottom left corner. It's the least tinted out of all of them.
FTR the uneven tint did NOT go away on my first two phones. While overall yellowness may clear up, the uneven factor doesn't change.
All 3 have had backlight bleed, was probably the least on my rev10, the first rev11 had it pretty bad along the taskbar and left/right hand sides. The second rev11 has it on the taskbar, but a little less, and the top left hand side.
The displays are just pretty crappy LG IPS panels, I'm certain most people will be on an RMA goose chase to get a phone without any uneven tinting/backlight bleeding. They'll exist, but how long do you want to ride your luck changing? I also think LG have changed the display between rev10 and rev11, as as I said both my rev11s are duller.
I got my third replacement N4 today (REV 11) and it (like the previous 2) has the yellow tint to the bottom of the screen and left edge in particular. Looks noticeably brighter the bottom half too (slight though). I'm really disappointed with this as I don't think it's looking like there will be any (or many) from this current batch that don't have this problem.
Does anyone know from a technical point of view why LCD panels are prone to this - why is it such a consistent problem in manufacturing? What exactly is the cause and why isn't it prevented? Any links? I've Googled it but no results...
So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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Oh....c`mon dude...if you want perfect blacks buy something with AMOLED display.I had that backlight bleeding on my Nexus 4,LG G2,Acer CloudMobile and even on Nexus 7(2013).I think this is normal for IPS displays.It`s just my opinion.But i`ve never seen a IPS screen wich renders perfect blacks like AMOLED.On my Nexus 7(2013) the white spot on the black is not that evident.I will make some pictures when I get home and post them here just for comparison with your pictures.
Manco123 said:
So I exchanged my first Nexus 7 because 1 dead pixel (build date 2013.10), got my second one with horrible multitouch problems and several dead pixels (build date 2013.08), my third one with multitouch problems and 8 dead pixels! and dust under the screen (build date 2013.09) and now on my 4th one (build date 2013.10).
- no multitouch problems;
- hardware is perfect, no dust under screen, no scratches, nothing (the first nexus also had some dust under the front facing camera);
- no dead pixels;
- but...it has in my opinion al lot of screen bleeding
Now, the question is, should I return this unit, I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?
edit: the bleeding is always seen on a black background during the evening (when its dark with normal house lights on), not so much in daylight. However the bleeding is seen even on 20% or 30% brightness, only if I turn on the automatic brightness things get a little better and the bleeding is minimised to the point that I am less bothered by it. Ooh and when I look at it from a different (a rather extreme) angle it also changes, so I guess it is some sort of glow
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I have blb in the exact same spots as you, but its less bright and i can not even see it when in a dark room.
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Somehow I don't believe what you're saying.
That much light bleed on 30% brightness? I call bull**** sorry to say.
It's on 100% brightness and it's on a black screen, what the hell did you expected? It's native to IPS screens so either live with it or guy buy a Samsung Tab 7.3 for 250€ with it's amazing hardware and screen. NOT.
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Somehow I don't believe what you're saying.
That much light bleed on 30% brightness? I call bull**** sorry to say.
It's on 100% brightness and it's on a black screen, what the hell did you expected? It's native to IPS screens so either live with it or guy buy a Samsung Tab 7.3 for 250€ with it's amazing hardware and screen. NOT.
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Like I said in the first post "I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?"
The light bleed is indeed visible on 20% or 30% brightness, but of course less than with a 100% brightness. The problem is, everything besides auto-brightness makes it visible. Normally on my other android devices, I turn off auto brightness and leave the brightness on about 25% with the standard widget (with the half moon sign). But on my nexus, I can't do that. The statusbar is always washed out.
The first 3 units didn't have this much bleed, they had very little, not worth mentioning. Also, I am very aware of the fact what I can expect with IPS displays, AMOLED displays (like my galaxy nexus), TN displays (like in my Macbook) and PVA displays (like on my dell 2408fwp). The thing is, this light bleed on my nexus is very obvious and beyond normal. If the light bleed was not so visible under say 60%, I wouldn't care one bit.
The thing is I am very disappointed with the quality of the hardware. I have never in my life returned a gadget more than twice. Normally, if the first one wasn't good, the second one is almost certain perfect. Don't get me wrong, the nexus 7 is a awesome device! But these faulty units ruin it for me.
Maybe bad batch? Mine made in August 2013, nothing wrong
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Manco123 said:
Like I said in the first post "I have made some pics in the dark with 100% brightness, what do you guys think of it?"
The light bleed is indeed visible on 20% or 30% brightness, but of course less than with a 100% brightness. The problem is, everything besides auto-brightness makes it visible. Normally on my other android devices, I turn off auto brightness and leave the brightness on about 25% with the standard widget (with the half moon sign). But on my nexus, I can't do that. The statusbar is always washed out.
The first 3 units didn't have this much bleed, they had very little, not worth mentioning. Also, I am very aware of the fact what I can expect with IPS displays, AMOLED displays (like my galaxy nexus), TN displays (like in my Macbook) and PVA displays (like on my dell 2408fwp). The thing is, this light bleed on my nexus is very obvious and beyond normal. If the light bleed was not so visible under say 60%, I wouldn't care one bit.
The thing is I am very disappointed with the quality of the hardware. I have never in my life returned a gadget more than twice. Normally, if the first one wasn't good, the second one is almost certain perfect. Don't get me wrong, the nexus 7 is a awesome device! But these faulty units ruin it for me.
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I don't want to sound arrogant or an ass, but I'll tell you what the problem with these threads is(which are alot believe me), light bleed annoyance/any of the other known issues is a personal thing.
And, coming here asking for advice is worthless because it's subjective and won't resolve anything. Everything about your device is up to you or whoever else opens a thread. If you find it bothering, go trade it until you get a unit working fine. Afterall, you payed and you have the right to have a fully working device. If it doesn't bother you that much, don't trade but and don't open a thread about it.
It won't change a thing, whatever people tell you it won't mater.
Good luck.
Hey, I had had 3 Nexus 7 2013s and all of them had light bleed. Even my iPhone 5 (bring on the hate bc i honestly hate my iPhone) has mild light bleed at 100% brightness on boot animation. My father had a Galaxy Note and he was used to flawless blacks and when he got an Xperia SP, he watches badminton matches at night and on loading screens, light leaked out from the sides. He went to Sony but they dismissed the problem
You have to decide how much it bothers you. It's much more than mine (100% bright), but my touch screen isn't what I'd like (like my N5 or even my old Toshiba Thrive).
EDIT: This pic taken of the N7 with my N5 should show better. It is a black background with 100% brightness. Only slight bit of bleed across the top.
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You have to decide how much it bothers you. It's much more than mine (100% bright), but my touch screen isn't what I'd like (like my N5 or even my old Toshiba Thrive).
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You aren't supposed to take a screenshot. You're supposed to put your phone in a dark room and display a fully black pic at 100% brightness
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That was a screenshot of Backlight Bleed test at 100% brightness in a darkroom. I understand that maybe the "screenshot" concept prevented light bleed from showing although both look the same. I'll fix it and re-up or remove it.
My screen has been like this since day one. In the pictures you can see brighter back light bleeding from the top center/right, the right middle/bottom, and the bottom center/left. Also, a bit of light shines through the white bezel in the bottom center which now that I notice, won't stop bugging me.
Was hoping it would go away but I got this on Amazon so an exchange would be easy as long as it comes back in stock soon (white 32GB).
Is mine the only one plagued with this? Keep in mind that this is with brightness turned all the way up on a black screen.
Yea I have screen bleed at two spots but it doesn't bother me unless for some reason it starts to expand then it will become an issue.
Most LCD panels, which are backlit, will have some light bleed around the edges. You can return the phone for a different one, but you'll probably have the same issue. It is the nature of backlit LCD panels. AMOLEDs don't have this problem since each pixel has its own light source.
Thanks for the input guys!
I don't seem to have this issue on mine. I can't notice anything like this when I turn on Moto Display. Is there an easy way for me to test this out?
the nature of LCD. one of the reasons I enjoy amoled as well.
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I have this screen bleeding too.
I've got my device yesterday and started "Dead Pixel Test", on the black screen i saw the screen-bleeding.
All my previous devices didn't have a screen bleeding, or it wasn't noticeable like that.
Honestly I'm a bit disappointed by the quality of the screen. I have some major light bleed at the lower left hand corner of the screen. Hard to unseen once I've noticed it.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
Lightbleed probably guaranteed from the top half near the camera...
Worth checking that out too...
I must be one of the luckier ones. Zero bleed for me.
Mine was a very early unit too (purchased in Taiwan on release day)
no light bleed here too.
Zero light bleed here. I have one of the pre-order US units.
Light bleed from the second screen but only when brightness is jacked up, which is often for watching video. No better nor worse than my old V10's 2nd screen but disappointing nonetheless.
Hi all I also have no light bleed anywhere on the screen and have to say I have mine on full brightness nearly all of the time and tend to use dark wallpapers so if it was there would of shown by now. I have to also say the screen is absolutely brilliant being bright and clear and one of the reasons I chose the Ultra was for its super LCD over being a amoled screen.
Marc
I just went through 2 white U Ultras in Canada...and sadly...both had the same light bleed issues. I really like the device...but in the end...I had to send them back and get a refund. HTC seems good about it though. Maybe I will pick it up again in another couple of months after a price cut.
Black HTC Ultra : No light bleed
HTC or Amazon recognize the light bleed as a defect that justifies the replacement or return with refund?
I have an HTC U Ultra with a light bleed at the lower left corner
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Yes I'm having the same problem I'm noticing on the left upper corner there is a little leak of light very disappointed because this phone was bought from ebay I'm not going to send it back it will take forever to fix it
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Yes I'm having the same problem I'm noticing on the left upper corner there is a little leak of light very disappointed because this phone was bought from ebay I'm not going to send it back it will take forever to fix it
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I got a light leak too.
I will have to live with that forever. I really wish i could sell it.