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how do I / should I update?

hi I'm in Canada with a WiFi note 8010. I've been waiting what feels like forever for this jb update and not sure if there's a better way to update? is there some other way to update? or should I just wait?
also I haven't rooted with the exnyos root, should I do that before or after?

hanexs said:
hi I'm in Canada with a WiFi note 8010. I've been waiting what feels like forever for this jb update and not sure if there's a better way to update? is there some other way to update? or should I just wait?
also I haven't rooted with the exnyos root, should I do that before or after?
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I updated to the german firmware using the odin method described in another thread and it worked great, didnt trip the counter or change the device status. Data and apps were intact. all and all I dont see any reason to not do it.
if you want the canadian release then you can simply install it over top the german one once it becomes available but I doubt that there will be much difference.

You might have to WIPE tho, since the German and Canadian ROMs have different CSCs.
Someone please confirm.

hanexs said:
hi I'm in Canada with a WiFi note 8010. I've been waiting what feels like forever for this jb update and not sure if there's a better way to update? is there some other way to update? or should I just wait?
also I haven't rooted with the exnyos root, should I do that before or after?
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Using ROM's meant for other regions isn't an issue and a good way to get the lastest fixes and updated versions of s/w like S Note. The only reason folks in the U.S. had challenges was because they were using ROMs (N8010) not meant for their h/w (N8013). There's a N8010 4.1.2 ROM that just came out. You should be able to use it with no issues. When the Canadian JB ROM is released just install it (via Odin) over the German ROM and you'll be back to where you would have been anyway while being able to use JB in the mean time.
Here's the newest 4.1.2 N8010 JB ROM...
http://hotfile.com/dl/190513084/ece...GT-N8010-DBT-N8010XXUCMA5-1357980235.zip.html
Here's how to install it using Odin...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048213

Another thing Canadian users should be aware before updating is that, there is NO Official 4.0.4 Stock ROM to fall back to. So if you ever need to send the unit back to the shop (before a Canadian ROM arrives online), you're SOL.
This is on top of whatever issues flashing a ROM with a different CSC might cause.

I have the German rom on my Canadian note as far as I can tell there are absolutely 0 issues with having a different CSC. Although it's true that there is no official 4.04 I'm not very convinced that would be a problem in the event of a return I doubt any of the retailers in Canada would know enough to even check what firmware you have installed.
I can confirm that you do not have to wipe data your system status remains official.
Frankly I'm not even sure that installing an official rom would void the warranty even if it is from another region assuming of course you are installing an 8010 ROM on an 8010 device
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klau1 said:
You might have to WIPE tho, since the German and Canadian ROMs have different CSCs.
Someone please confirm.
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Nope you do not need to wipe. The csc doesn't matter as long as u use the rom for the German 8010
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Will you need to WIPE coming back from German to Canada?

klau1 said:
Will you need to WIPE coming back from German to Canada?
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No. The only file that's being updated via Odin is the PDA/MD5 file which doesn't affect user settings, apps, or what's stored on the device. Occasionally you'll see a widget break or disappear off the home screen because it’s been superseded by one with newer functionality. That's the only casualty I've experienced in bouncing between ROMs from different regions. You'll also see regionally specific things pop-up. The Italian N8000 ROM had a pasta eating game pre-installed on it. Some things don't work because of regional exclusions like the EU Video Hub knows when it's being used on a non-EU device. Those you can just disable in Application Manager.

BarryH_GEG said:
When the Canadian JB ROM is released just install it (via Odin) over the German ROM and you'll be back to where you would have been anyway while being able to use JB in the mean time.
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thanks for the post! I'm going to try this once my tablet has enough charge, will update you all with the results.
Although, what would happen if no official Canadian JB ROM is released in the future? Just like how there is no official ics rom.
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wow definitely impressed with the speed increase of jellybean. significantly faster. thanks for the help everyone!

AT&T SGH-I467 OTA Update I467UCAMF2

Hey everyone. I just got an OTA update for my Note 8.0 LTE (AT&T). It's a small update (16.3MB). The new firmware build is I467UCAMF2. This is probably just a bugfix update but OTAs are almost always a good thing.
Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Yeah got it this morning... was hoping it would fix the screen from becoming unresponsive. Did not fix it
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Update the Software for the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 (i467)
Update summary
The latest software package updates the baseband version to I467UCAMF2, and includes improvements to the initial setup process on the device. The update is available for download over a Wi-Fi network connection.
What to expect after the update
Although there should be no impacts to settings or data, we recommend that you back up your media files to an SD card, a PC, or using a favorite application (from the Play Store), prior to upgrading the software. For information on backing up and restoring your phone using Samsung Kies, click here.
How to update
Customers will receive an alert and be prompted to download the update, or have the option to initiate the update manually. When prompted, you can postpone the update up to 3 times, and 4 hours per occurrence. After the update has been postponed for the maximum allowable time, your device will automatically download and install the update.
Note: Before the update can begin, your tablet must be connected to a Wi-Fi network.
To initiate the update manually, go to Settings .
Scroll to the "System" section, and then tap About device > Software update > Check for updates.
Tap OK.
The device will determine if new software is available, and begin downloading the software update. Once complete, the device will restart.
Please wait until your tablet reboots completely, and then tap Done to finish.
How to verify the update
From the home screen, tap Settings .
NOTE: Alternatively, from the home screen, press the Menu key, and then tap Settings.
From the "more" tab, tap About device. The following information will be displayed:
Android version: 4.1.2
Baseband version: I467UCAMF2
Build number: JZO54K.I467UCAMF2

Archon810 said:
Update the Software for the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 (i467)
Update summary
The latest software package updates the baseband version to I467UCAMF2, and includes improvements to the initial setup process on the device. The update is available for download over a Wi-Fi network connection.
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OK so allow me to translate that into English:
"Because we're A, T and f***ing T, we decided to make Samsung replace Google's normal Android setup app with our own called AT&T Ready2Go. The problem is, again because we're A, T and f***ing T, our app sucks. If you have two-step verification enabled on your Google account, you won't be able to sign into your Google account during setup with AT&T Ready2Go. I guess we underestimated how many people actually have it turned on, so oops! Our bad. Here, it's enabled. Happy now?"

I manually updated a couple of hours ago. After playing around with the Note 8 with the update for about an hour I no longer experience the screen stutter/freeze/pause/etc. issue. I hope this in fact is fixed, but so far so good.

cataloochee said:
I manually updated a couple of hours ago. After playing around with the Note 8 with the update for about an hour I no longer experience the screen stutter/freeze/pause/etc. issue. I hope this in fact is fixed, but so far so good.
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I'm still getting the unresponsive screen issue post-update. I've thought about doing a reset, but haven't actually done it yet.

Would be nice if someone had the OTA zip, as it is possible a root could be made from it if the right images are included.
- Dan

DanMc85 said:
Would be nice if someone had the OTA zip, as it is possible a root could be made from it if the right images are included.
- Dan
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Nobody cam get the zip file unless they're rooted and root isn't currently possible on the AT&T model.
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oldblue910 said:
Nobody cam get the zip file unless they're rooted and root isn't currently possible on the AT&T model.
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So is this thing super locked down or do not many people have it yet? No root is killing me.
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joshw0000 said:
So is this thing super locked down or do not many people have it yet? No root is killing me.
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A little of both. The bootloader is encrypted and locked on the AT&T model, but also, very few of us on XDA actually have one. Let's be real. People around here thumb their noses at tablets with an LTE connection a lot of times. They just have no hipster cred in the Android geek community. The in crowd just buys a WiFi-only tablet and tethers it to their phone. It's the geekier thing to do, even if it's a pain in the @$$. You can talk about why LTE tablets are useful until you're blue in the face but it falls on deaf ears more often than not.
Unfortunately, I'm not very optimistic that we'll ever see root unless there comes a time where the WiFi-only root method works on the AT&T model.
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oldblue910 said:
A little of both. The bootloader is encrypted and locked on the AT&T model, but also, very few of us on XDA actually have one. Let's be real. People around here thumb their noses at tablets with an LTE connection a lot of times. They just have no hipster cred in the Android geek community. The in crowd just buys a WiFi-only tablet and tethers it to their phone. It's the geekier thing to do, even if it's a pain in the @$$. You can talk about why LTE tablets are useful until you're blue in the face but it falls on deaf ears more often than not.
Unfortunately, I'm not very optimistic that we'll ever see root unless there comes a time where the WiFi-only root method works on the AT&T model.
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Is it encrypted? I got this tablet 2nd hand and I may never even put service on it. If I can't root it, I'll probably trade it for a wifi version. I know AT&T and Verizon pushed an OTA to the S4's that prevented root. Luckily I was rooted/rom'ed prior to that. My GN8 doesn't have the latest OTA. I'm still hopeful for root and unlock/simunlock so I can grab a pre-paid card for this tab.
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joshw0000 said:
Is it encrypted? I got this tablet 2nd hand and I may never even put service on it. If I can't root it, I'll probably trade it for a wifi version. I know AT&T and Verizon pushed an OTA to the S4's that prevented root. Luckily I was rooted/rom'ed prior to that. My GN8 doesn't have the latest OTA. I'm still hopeful for root and unlock/simunlock so I can grab a pre-paid card for this tab.
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Yes is encrypted and was in the original shipping firmware too, sadly.
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oldblue910 said:
Yes is encrypted and was in the original shipping firmware too, sadly.
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Damn. I couldn't find any info online about it when I got it so I assumed it was just a matter of time before it was rooted like the others.
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Has anyone tried fc or moyochopper?
My device is trying to update but I blocked it (for now)...
If I can root it before the download starts them maybe I can grab the file...

prestonjb said:
Has anyone tried fc or moyochopper?
My device is trying to update but I blocked it (for now)...
If I can root it before the download starts them maybe I can grab the file...
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I haven't tried personally, but if you want to try, go for it.

oldblue910 said:
Yes is encrypted and was in the original shipping firmware too, sadly.
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Damm, I was going to try to learn to build a rooted kernel.
If it's not a hassle can you point me to the post that IDed the encryption, or did you verify it?

Here is the Firmware for the newest OTA It has everything you could possibly want. I'm working a double or i would of already cracked it open and at least done something with it.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzgUrWZ7XZ0rRWNZNlU0bmg2Uk0/edit?usp=sharing

dirtydroidx said:
Here is the Firmware for the newest OTA It has everything you could possibly want. I'm working a double or i would of already cracked it open and at least done something with it.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzgUrWZ7XZ0rRWNZNlU0bmg2Uk0/edit?usp=sharing
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Thanks for this. This is actually the original firmware, not the OTA. The link you provided was for MF1. That's the original shipping firmware. MF2 is the OTA. Still, this is great to have!

oldblue910 said:
Thanks for this. This is actually the original firmware, not the OTA. The link you provided was for MF1. That's the original shipping firmware. MF2 is the OTA. Still, this is great to have!
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yeah forgot about that little OTA I made a boot.img and pushed it via hemdall, and it took , Im guessing that the everything by-name is writable via odin. Well lol at least im hoping it is haha.

dirtydroidx said:
yeah forgot about that little OTA I made a boot.img and pushed it via hemdall, and it took , Im guessing that the everything by-name is writable via odin. Well lol at least im hoping it is haha.
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How did you dump that? Are you rooted?

N910T firmware on N910w8

Hi All
excuse my ignorance but is it possible to flash n910T stock firmware
on n910w8 as both are snapdragon LTE varients?
So in other words I want to go from ANJ3 stock firmware to ANJ7 stock firmware..
My Note 4 is rooted with cwm recovery and I understand that i'll loose the root and
cwm recovery if I flash the stock firmware and I am totally fine with that.
Please let me know, Much appreciated!
Cheers

Anyone?

I'd hold off for now until development shows a bit more and people understand it a bit better. On the Note 3 for example you could flash any of the SNAPDRAGON N9005 ROMS on any of the devices, only difference was you had to install the kernel for your device.
EXAMPLE : Flash an N900T ROM onto your W8 would be OK but you'd have to flash the W8 kernel to get it to boot and work (wifi/signal etc).
EDIT: Just re-read, Stock isn't possible via ODIN as it changes the system and boot partitions are different, however with Custom ROMS my explanation is OK

radicalisto said:
I'd hold off for now until development shows a bit more and people understand it a bit better. On the Note 3 for example you could flash any of the SNAPDRAGON N9005 ROMS on any of the devices, only difference was you had to install the kernel for your device.
EXAMPLE : Flash an N900T ROM onto your W8 would be OK but you'd have to flash the W8 kernel to get it to boot and work (wifi/signal etc).
EDIT: Just re-read, Stock isn't possible via ODIN as it changes the system and boot partitions are different, however with Custom ROMS my explanation is OK
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Thanks for your detailed reply bud,
I guess i'll have to wait like you suggested. Only reason I wanted to switch firmware is because I find note 4 very laggy with the Canadian (n910w8) firmware. I know it's not my device because I've played with 3-4 different note4s and they are all the same. I've also gotten rid of most of the bloatware. Had a T-mobile note 3 prior to this and that was blazing fast with stock rom (bloatware disabled not removed). Not sure what the deal is with Note4s, i truly hope a future firmware update will fix the lag.
Cheers

farhanali_ said:
Thanks for your detailed reply bud,
I guess i'll have to wait like you suggested. Only reason I wanted to switch firmware is because I find note 4 very laggy with the Canadian (n910w8) firmware. I know it's not my device because I've played with 3-4 different note4s and they are all the same. I've also gotten rid of most of the bloatware. Had a T-mobile note 3 prior to this and that was blazing fast with stock rom (bloatware disabled not removed). Not sure what the deal is with Note4s, i truly hope a future firmware update will fix the lag.
Cheers
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I imagine an incremental software update will fix the lag. The LG G3 also suffered this fate and was fixed with a little patch.
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Yeah you'll see an update in... January?
radicalisto said:
I imagine an incremental software update will fix the lag. The LG G3 also suffered this fate and was fixed with a little patch.
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Yeah but when? I am infuriated and frustrated with my Note 4. I experience lag and complete sh*t wifi performance. I feel like I've been ripped off for buying this crap that isn't even throughly tested before shipping.
Samsung announces 9.56 Billion Dollars $9,560,000,000 profit in 2013 and yet they can't make a f***king stable phone to ship. Absolutely pathetic. At least Apple patches and pushes iOS fixes literally within a week. I don't expect to see an update to the SM-N910W8 for weeks if not months from now. On the Note 3 they were few and far between.
What a waste of money (and no I can't return it store policy used over 30 minutes of talk / 50 MB of data yeah yeah canadian carriers are rape and they get away with it so don't go down that road).
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farhanali_ said:
Thanks for your detailed reply bud,
I guess i'll have to wait like you suggested. Only reason I wanted to switch firmware is because I find note 4 very laggy with the Canadian (n910w8) firmware. I know it's not my device because I've played with 3-4 different note4s and they are all the same.
Cheers
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Glad you confirmed that all the devices in the store are also affected. Its rarely a hardware issue despite what people say "Return it and the new one didn't have it" more or less those people just aren't perceptive enough and believe what they want.

I was wondering, I would love to switch to Sprint or tmobile but I don't get 4g coverage were I live, is there a way to make a tmobile or Sprint note 4 get 4g lte from Verizon's towers, would it be possable to flash a different radio would that work. Thanks

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Marshmallow

LG is most likely developing the Android 6.0 Marshmallow operating system and may release it for its G3 and G4 flagships via an over-the-air (OTA) update, in the coming weeks. Although the update schedule is yet to be revealed.
The company's Korean support site has listed the Android 6.0 Marshmallow update for some variants of the LG G3 and LG G4 flagships, which include the LG G3 F400S, F400K and F400L as well as the LG G4 F500S, F500K and F500L. All these variants are currently running on Android Lollipop operating system.
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View full post here: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/android-6-0-marshmallow-update-lg-g3-g4-likely-be-released-soon-1522322

I'd say it's coming as the T-Mobile support page says it's in testing/already developed. (And that's a US Carrier variant)
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
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I'm guessing this will mean a new root method will be required?

Knowbody42 said:
I'm guessing this will mean a new root method will be required?
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Also a 6 month+ wait for Telstra to do their "testing". Unless we can simply flash it the way we do now with locked bootloaders and injecting root.

I'm excited for the camera app from the V10 being ported over!!

I hope it has better power managment..battery gets warm to hot with some apps and lag is still a problem on non rooted phone..

I'm hoping that it'll only be a couple weeks before MM is released to the G4, but I'd be happy if it's before the new year. It would make sense to have it out before Xmas so people might buy the G4 as a gift.
I guess not too many of the general public are going to care/know about the latest release of android, whereas people do want something that can handle iOS 9 or whatever version they're on now.

Here's hoping for a fairly quick release and a screen saturation control!
Amazed at how much the price of the G4 has dropped. I bought mine for £360 three weeks ago and it's dropped another £42 since! Probably £299 by Xmas. Why bother waiting for a One Plus/Nexus etc.?

bustervic said:
I'm excited for the camera app from the V10 being ported over!!
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It is inevitable i believe because both phones use identical sensors...
frnkly said:
I hope it has better power managment..battery gets warm to hot with some apps and lag is still a problem on non rooted phone..
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We should get much better battery life, especially in stand-by. But i'm hoping for beter power managment
while in use and a better optimised cpu governor... Lag shoulden't be a problem in MM...
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Here's hoping for a fairly quick release and a screen saturation control!
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That would be great...

I'm wondering how long it will take Big Red to push this out.

Knowbody42 said:
I'm guessing this will mean a new root method will be required?
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Possibly, but at the same time, possibly not.
The current low effort root method actually uses a bootloader exploit which COULD not be patched by the new version (This is a BIG IF). If this is the case, we'd be able to use the same exact method as before to inject root.
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Also, don't want to be a party pooper, but LG promised the Lollipop release "Soon" last year and ended up taking a long time to release it through most vendors... So I don't trust LG on that front.

karendar said:
Possibly, but at the same time, possibly not.
The current low effort root method actually uses a bootloader exploit which COULD not be patched by the new version (This is a BIG IF). If this is the case, we'd be able to use the same exact method as before to inject root.
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Also, don't want to be a party pooper, but LG promised the Lollipop release "Soon" last year and ended up taking a long time to release it through most vendors... So I don't trust LG on that front.
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Well said, it's a big if... But nevertheless, someone will find out the way to root, someone always does
About the MM release, i believe it will be out around the new year, probbably in early january :fingers-crossed:

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The M update will be hell for root on bootloader locked devices....Lets assume they close the initial exploit used in Low Effort Root, that means a new exploit must be found (which certainly is possible but will take time). The problem is right now you can't root on M without a custom kernel, the stock M kernel doesnt play nice with SuperSU (causes bootloops), also by default M restricts read/write access to the system partition even with root. So again a custom kernel is needed to defeat these. If you have a bootloader locked device its going to be very difficult to root your device on M. Hopefully the devs can find something but if you need root best move on to a bootloader unlockable device/variant.
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karendar said:
Possibly, but at the same time, possibly not.
The current low effort root method actually uses a bootloader exploit which COULD not be patched by the new version (This is a BIG IF). If this is the case, we'd be able to use the same exact method as before to inject root.
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Also, don't want to be a party pooper, but LG promised the Lollipop release "Soon" last year and ended up taking a long time to release it through most vendors... So I don't trust LG on that front.
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M will likely require a new bootstack, guaranteed that LG patches the backdoor, i'd be very surprised if they left it open. Even if you inject the current SU binary/SuperSU it doesnt play nicely with a stock compiled M kernel, causes bootloops on Nexus Devices, so that means you need a custom kernel unless Chainfire can figure out how to make it work with the default M kernel.

djkinetic said:
The M update will be hell for root on bootloader locked devices....Lets assume they close the initial exploit used in Low Effort Root, that means a new exploit must be found (which certainly is possible but will take time). The problem is right now you can't root on M without a custom kernel, the stock M kernel doesnt play nice with SuperSU (causes bootloops), also by default M restricts read/write access to the system partition even with root. So again a custom kernel is needed to defeat these. If you have a bootloader locked device its going to be very difficult to root your device on M. Hopefully the devs can find something but if you need root best move on to a bootloader unlockable device/variant.
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M will likely require a new bootstack, guaranteed that LG patches the backdoor, i'd be very surprised if they left it open. Even if you inject the current SU binary/SuperSU it doesnt play nicely with a stock compiled M kernel, causes bootloops on Nexus Devices, so that means you need a custom kernel unless Chainfire can figure out how to make it work with the default M kernel.
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I'm not really worried about a root method for M... There will be a method by the time M comes out for our phone.
The current exploit, I'd also be surprised if they didn't patch it(as I mentioned) , but then again, I've seen exploits not be patched by major versions, so it's not impossible. Only a release will tell us.

karendar said:
I'm not really worried about a root method for M... There will be a method by the time M comes out for our phone.
The current exploit, I'd also be surprised if they didn't patch it(as I mentioned) , but then again, I've seen exploits not be patched by major versions, so it's not impossible. Only a release will tell us.
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I'm not as optimistic as you. Yes, the exploit we used to root may still be open (after all, they left it open on the G3 -> G4). But a new problem is present: Starting with Android 6.0 all kernels now use a forceencrypt flag. Even all Nexus users have had to flash a custom kernel which flips the flag to noforceencrypt before they could root - that was never the case in the past and Nexus users could just flash SuperSU on the stock kernel and be done with it. Not anymore. Google is locking things down in the interest of security.
You can try it yourself if you have a Nexus. Flash SuperSU on the stock 6.0 kernel. You'll bootloop as the kernel won't allow the system to boot while SuperSU is installed. Only way to root is to flash a custom kernel with the proper modifications to allow root.
The reason this is a problem for us G4 users is, since we have locked bootloaders (with the exception of a few international units), we cannot flash custom kernels. No kernel flashing = no way to flip noforceencrypt in the kernel = no root on M Sure, you can maybe find a way to get SuperSU and the root binaries in there, but when you try to boot you'll just bootloop as the system won't let you in.
Maybe a workaround will be found, but this new kernel security is a seriously blow to our ability to attain root on the G4 running M.

biff6789 said:
I'm not as optimistic as you. Yes, the exploit we used to root may still be open (after all, they left it open on the G3 -> G4). But a new problem is present: Starting with Android 6.0 all kernels now use a forceencrypt flag. Even all Nexus users have had to flash a custom kernel which flips the flag to noforceencrypt before they could root - that was never the case in the past and Nexus users could just flash SuperSU on the stock kernel and be done with it. Not anymore. Google is locking things down in the interest of security.
You can try it yourself if you have a Nexus. Flash SuperSU on the stock 6.0 kernel. You'll bootloop as the kernel won't allow the system to boot while SuperSU is installed. Only way to root is to flash a custom kernel with the proper modifications to allow root.
The reason this is a problem for us G4 users is, since we have locked bootloaders (with the exception of a few international units), we cannot flash custom kernels. No kernel flashing = no way to flip noforceencrypt in the kernel = no root on M Sure, you can maybe find a way to get SuperSU and the root binaries in there, but when you try to boot you'll just bootloop as the system won't let you in.
Maybe a workaround will be found, but this new kernel security is a seriously blow to our ability to attain root on the G4 running M.
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Yea with the current changes that Google made with M at the kernel level bootloader locked devices have very little hope of being rooted, the reason why we can still root on nexus devices is because our bootloaders are unlockable you take that away and we would be in the same boat, this release of android has pretty much signaled the end of me buying any carrier phones that i know will be locked down. its simply too much hassle for most devs to bother with finding new exploits in the coming android versions.

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I'd say it's coming as the T-Mobile support page says it's in testing/already developed. (And that's a US Carrier variant)
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
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Man. Sweet.
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Rydah805 said:
I'd say it's coming as the T-Mobile support page says it's in testing/already developed. (And that's a US Carrier variant)
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
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It does? It looks to me like it says both the g3 and g4 are in Manufacturer Development not testing. The nexus 6 is the only device I see that's in testing. I would be shocked if it comes out before December and I would not be shocked if we don't see it until next year.

biff6789 said:
The reason this is a problem for us G4 users is, since we have locked bootloaders (with the exception of a few international units), we cannot flash custom kernels. .
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Please, most of the world has unlocked bootloaders.

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Please, most of the world has unlocked bootloaders.
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Just Europe and T-Mobile USA (AFAIK) at the moment.
The percentage of G4's with unlockable bootloaders is pretty small.

Marshmallow is here (with all respect to CM13)

First, what you do to your phone is your responsibility, etc., etc.
I am not a developer. The work is mostly not mine. A group of folks have been playing with this for a couple weeks over in the General section, and thanks to a great deal of help from others, it is ready to put out there. Hopefully, a developer can polish it and work out the few kinks there are. I will continue to explore and experiment. but this feels like a daily driver at this stage!
1. Gather the files needed as listed in the instructions.
2. I was on the BPA1 modem.
3. I wiped the phone completely. Everything but the micro sd.
4. Install Nameless Rom available at Er. Aditya's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/rom-nameless-mm-lightfastdeodexed-t3363547
5. Install Louforgiveno's Verizon data fix (attached).
6. Install AEL kernel available here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24499762636001208
7. Reboot. It will take 15 minutes or so to finish the boot and may reboot during the process. Be patient. Once the phone boots completely, and you go through setup, it will take a few minutes to establish connection to the network, but it has been solid for me once it does. This occurs each time you boot.
8. Reboot into recovery and flash Chainfire's SU available here (the kernek will wipe it): https://download.chainfire.eu/696/supersu/
Alternative kernel posted by Kcnycity: H-Vitamin kernel found here http://sharewidget.org/forum_xda-developers/note-4/snapdragon-dev/kernel-h-vitamin-t3364213. I found that I lost brightness control with this kernel on my dev edition, but not my retail. Which raises another point raised by douger1957. I think we had assumed that the dev phones and retail are the same, but the experience has varied across a number of users, so it is a trial and error process for each phone to find the best combination for your device.
ALTERNATIVE ROM: Try Dr. Ketan S7 rom here (for 910G) : http://www.drketanrom.com/n910g.html
Use the H-Vitamn kernel. Looks flawless so far. Network access is faster. And theme engine!
I had forgotten how much fun this can be!
Thanks go to:
Louforgiveno, without whom this would not be happening
Er. Adiytya and his team, who allowed me to use his port
KeTuRr74, who pointed us in the right direction for the data fix
FYI, at least two other roms from the Snapdragon forum will work with this process.
Known issues with this version:
1. Verizon Message Plus works but does not complete the subscription process. (Update: After about 14 hours, Message + has synced).
2. Slow to connect to network

Did you have to install the bootloader/ modem like it's stated in the OP on the ROM page or just the ROM itself followed by the data fix, kernel, and submit update?
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InfantryMarc said:
Did you have to install the bootloader/ modem like it's stated in the OP on the ROM page or just the ROM itself followed by the data fix, kernel, and submit update?
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No.
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It should be noted that there seems to be differences in how the ROMs from the Snapdragon forum behave, depending on whether your phone is a Developer Edition or a converted Retail Edition. It's suspected that there are different bootloaders at play.
Also, try to make sure that you give thanks to louforgiveno and keturr74. Both have been a big help in bridging the gap between Verizon phones and the other Snapdragon variants.

Did you try installing mm s7 port ?

axeldiks1 said:
Did you try installing mm s7 port ?
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No,at least not yet

InfantryMarc said:
Did you have to install the bootloader/ modem like it's stated in the OP on the ROM page or just the ROM itself followed by the data fix, kernel, and submit update?
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The BPA1 modem has been very successful on this port. I have clocked over 78 mps in a strong location. I have both the Dev edition and an unlocked retail and it has worked on both

axeldiks1 said:
Did you try installing mm s7 port ?
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Dr Ketan's? I'm going to install that this weekend.
I messed with this a bit last weekend with Keturr's ROM. louforgiveno's data fix came in too late in the weekend and I had to recover to Jasmine. Everything I got to try with Keturr's ROM worked, other than data.
For what it's worth... for those who feel married to TouchWiz because of S Note, it's now available in the Play Store.

I couldn't get data or signal to stay at all. And when I went to add my Google account, it would completely shut the phone off. Had to restore back to a previous twrp restore to fix anything. And that was on a clean install.
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I tried the method in the OP but with the kernel the phone rebooted itself 3 times navigating the playstore and the nameless control panel so i wiped it and flashed H-Vitamin kernel and its been working flawlessly.

I got it working but does this not having theming? Are there any with theming and screen mirroring support?

I thought MM was coming to 910V but it wasn't what I expected XD
Title is kinda misleading

Kcnycity said:
I tried the method in the OP but with the kernel the phone rebooted itself 3 times navigating the playstore and the nameless control panel so i wiped it and flashed H-Vitamin kernel and its been working flawlessly.
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What version are you using?
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thetrangdam said:
I thought MM was coming to 910V but it wasn't what I expected XD
Title is kinda misleading
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Marshmallow is coming to the N910V. But when? If you want Marshmallow now and not on Verizon's schedule, this is how you do it. I didn't see anything misleading. This is posted in the Development thread and not in General, where you'd expect to see an announcement about official Marshmallow.
The OP and others did quite a bit of work to bring TouchWiz Marshmallow options to our phones. To them, I extend my thanks.

Kcnycity said:
I tried the method in the OP but with the kernel the phone rebooted itself 3 times navigating the playstore and the nameless control panel so i wiped it and flashed H-Vitamin kernel and its been working flawlessly.
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Interesting I was getting a ton of reboots launching apps too I might have to try this.
Does anyone know what other MM roms work? I was looking for one with the theme engine.

So can we flash the kernel on any aosp based rom like cm13? I'm almost positive we can but want to make sure I didn't miss anything.
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Mibuix0r said:
Interesting I was getting a ton of reboots launching apps too I might have to try this.
Does anyone know what other MM roms work? I was looking for one with the theme engine.
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howellcp said:
What version are you using?
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I was using Nameless V3, all in all a pretty fast light rom but decided to flash Dr Ketan's MM s7 edge port and I enjoy it much more with the tweaks and mods available within it also has the theme engine

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I was using Nameless V3, all in all a pretty fast light rom but decided to flash Dr Ketan's MM s7 edge port and I enjoy it much more with the tweaks and mods available within it also has the theme engine
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That was actually the one I was going to try next. What kernel did you end up using?

Mibuix0r said:
That was actually the one I was going to try next. What kernel did you end up using?
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H-Vitamin kernel found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/development/kernel-h-vitamin-t3355879
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Also as a side note after you flash the H-Vitamin kernel it will overwrite root access simply reboot into recovery after you go through the first boot up setup and flash UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46 and you will have root back.

Kcnycity said:
I was using Nameless V3, all in all a pretty fast light rom but decided to flash Dr Ketan's MM s7 edge port and I enjoy it much more with the tweaks and mods available within it also has the theme engine
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Thanks! I will be trying that one tonight.

Took me forever to find the google settings in the new one. Gotta go to Settings>Application settings>Google