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I Just seen the Elocity A10 listed on tiger.
64GB $699
32GB $599
4GB $449 the 16GB not even listed on tiger
WLAN N
Claiming true multi touch this time for A10's
still ships with 2.2 froyo
Looks like the same pointless 1.3mp cam and still front facing(yes I know web cam)
with all the extra space you would think they would switch to full size SD
I truly have nothing against the elocity. I have an A7 with the 1.3 dex mod loving it, but wife wants it so I'm gonna spring for a Enspert Identy tab E201U. Looks promising and very comparable.
The tablet eLocity A10 and prices, and mt discussed already here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941603
A10 models starting to show up.
I just saw all 3 models of eLocity A10 on Tiger Direct for pre-order today. Amazon has it up but only on adding to wishlist when it becomes available. I am soo tempted right now to take my A7 back and get this A10 for just an extra 100 dollars to spend. I wonder if it is even worth it. If SteamTV can't release a fix for the sdram issue or at least add upgrade to gingerbread, I'm going to A10.
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I just saw all 3 models of eLocity A10 on Tiger Direct for pre-order today. Amazon has it up but only on adding to wishlist when it becomes available. I am soo tempted right now to take my A7 back and get this A10 for just an extra 100 dollars to spend. I wonder if it is even worth it. If SteamTV can't release a fix for the sdram issue or at least add upgrade to gingerbread, I'm going to A10.
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What "sdram issue" ?
Sorry meant SD Mirco card where it wouldn't work properly with A7.
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Sorry meant SD Mirco card where it wouldn't work properly with A7.
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What issue? I don't have any issues with sdcard...
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this is all a misunderstanding of how tablets are supposed to work, and caused by the fact that android 2.2 is made for a phone with external memory cards, and less to nothing of internal memory.
the current installation where apps are "moved" to internal storage is actually how vendors are trying to implement 2 types of storage.
comparing this to a mobile with just sdcard, and android 2.2 only supporting one storage type, the preferred storage becomes the "internal" and sdcard handling as you notice is now pointing to a location with the internal storage location.
the mountpoint at the internal storage location is planned based on the fact that users coming from an android based mobile knows alot about where to find data, which is in the storage location, so its put as mount at the storage so its easy to access, and not actually any bug at all.
so until better handling is presented (hopefully 3.0) people will continue to think that the handling is wrong or something is not wright here, but it is correct.
your internal storage of "just" 1.5GB is the preferred location, as tablets are not meant to have sdcards as preferred storage, if you chose not to put a sdcard into the tablet. so the choice was easy, use internal storage for android so ppl didnt need to buy additional cards.
but the lack of storage internally is a vendor decision, not a bug or not "the android way" a problem in any way..
imagine, those users without any sdcard, being unable to use the feature of android to a storage, and needed to use data storage for all files, that would look strange, if you didnt have the option available..
it could have been planned differently but vendors (all of the tegra2 vendors) has chosen this path, which could have been done differently but its all relate to apps and how they expect your device to work..
a long explanation, but remember 2.2 is not made for tablets, it made for small devices with external memory cards, which is long overdue and is followed up with the new android 3.0 which hopefully solves your problem.
conclusion,
Nvidia could have chosen a different way of using android, but they're still rather new to the platform and their design is not without problems yet (honeycomb will show that too), so if they used real planning and organized memory and sdcard handling like 2.2 was made for, you would have no problems at all. Remember Nvidia designed it this way, and they are the reason you have problems..Lack of knowledge of design and functionality, like BMW trying to make graphics card for a pc, coming from designing cars, their work would not be in a class like nvidia graphics, but probably ok..but far from good..
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to answer you last question, usb to pc..
ill figure some idea out on the next update, as the tablet do support host/client usb port setup (recently confirmed), but i think you noticed the tablet don't have a port for connecting to your pc for now..
to enable the usb to pc connectivity you need a special usb cable, and software that changes the usb port mode. which can be solved, but disables the functionality of usb sticks etc, connecting to it.
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Yet another in a line of many "problems" that could have been solved by reading the information that is already here.
Does anyone know whether it will be possible to install the new Ubuntu Phone on the HTC HD2?
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I think it's very possible, it is open source. I saw in one video that they're hoping or are willing to help developers port it to other phones.
My hd2 is ready for this.
I am a lil excited about this, particularly if we will have the option to boot into desktop by docking. Considering that the Galaxy Nexus is being used as the demo phone, I'm imagining that our lil HD2 will be capable (not saying they have identical specs, but clearly ubunto are going to demo it well above the min requirements)
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I am a lil excited about this, particularly if we will have the option to boot into desktop by docking. Considering that the Galaxy Nexus is being used as the demo phone, I'm imagining that our lil HD2 will be capable (not saying they have identical specs, but clearly ubunto are going to demo it well above the min requirements)
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They mentioned somewhere they wanted to have Ubuntu running not only across devices but on budget grade hardware within a device type as well. The HD2 still performs well relative to budget phones so I dont anticipate there will be any problems with the reqs. Can't wait till someone manages to get their hands on and port this!
EDIT: Actually wait, pulled from the Ubuntu site, there will be 2 versions:
Entry level (no desktop convergence)
1ghz cortex A9
512-1gb ram
4-8gb emmc + sd
High end (desktop convergence)
Quad core A9/Intel Atom
1gb ram
32gb emmc + sd
I'm sure the talented devs here will be able to manage something to get the high end onto the HD2, looks kind of overspec'd to me
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They mentioned somewhere they wanted to have Ubuntu running not only across devices but on budget grade hardware within a device type as well. The HD2 still performs well relative to budget phones so I dont anticipate there will be any problems with the reqs. Can't wait till someone manages to get their hands on and port this!
EDIT: Actually wait, pulled from the Ubuntu site, there will be 2 versions:
Entry level (no desktop convergence)
1ghz cortex A9
512-1gb ram
4-8gb emmc + sd
High end (desktop convergence)
Quad core A9/Intel Atom
1gb ram
32gb emmc + sd
I'm sure the talented devs here will be able to manage something to get the high end onto the HD2, looks kind of overspec'd to me
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Actually no, the high end phones running Ubuntu will also have a dock which will provide full desktop functionality (mouse, keyboard and
monitor). This is because the mobile version of Ubuntu will run on two cores, and the full Ubuntu desktop will run on the other two cores.
According to the requirements, the HD2 will be able to run Ubuntu Phone itself, though.
Hope this clears things up
AW: Ubuntu Phone for the HTC HD2
Any news? How could we get a dev going for this?
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I'm eagerly awaiting news on this as well!
I'd love to see Ubuntu running on the HD2. Is there anything this phone can't do? :laugh:
Yeah, I'm waiting for this too. I was able to launch GIMP using Debian on my HD2, so I'm very excited about getting usable Ubuntu:fingers-crossed:
Its very interesting for me too!:laugh:
It is available now for Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4!!!
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
We need some developers here:fingers-crossed:
I'm ready to test it on my HD2.
Believe the code in question is here. But don't think its the sorta thing that's portable. Anyone try it as it is? Can't spot in on first glance but I take it that the build model is taken from the device at some point, I guess if we can spoof that and see how far it boots.
Installed it on my gnexus today. It's nice but its just a preview . Almost nothing worked right. But it did get me excited!! Can't wait for the real deal now!
Canonical ask who has experience to help them to port Ubuntu Touch to new devices. Here's the link http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/taking-ubuntu-touch-to-new-levels/
Ill be tackling this once I can get the source downloaded, so many people are trying to get it that its crashing their repo, and since its ~12gigs, it might take a little while lol
I've token the time to extract the Ubuntu Touch Nexus 4 Dev Preview core system and put it into a ext4 Image to make easier for people to see exactly what's installed and be able to configure it without having to fully install it.
You can find the Operating System Image here - www.ZenfulApps.com
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Ill be tackling this once I can get the source downloaded, so many people are trying to get it that its crashing their repo, and since its ~12gigs, it might take a little while lol
I've token the time to extract the Ubuntu Touch Nexus 4 Dev Preview core system and put it into a ext4 Image to make easier for people to see exactly what's installed and be able to configure it without having to fully install it.
You can find the Operating System Image here - www.ZenfulApps.com
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Hi z3nful, I have been trying on and off all day to DL the image with varying degrees of success. The zip seems to have downloaded successfully but is only around 100mb (ranging from 79 to 130)(tried from chrome on pc and linux, and firefox). Any chance of a mirror? Thanks
Thats odd, it downloaded good on my phone, Linux, and XP. here's a direct link to it that's not run through the file manager on the site, should work fine that way (still working out some bugs lol)
UbuntuTouch-DevPreview-Mako.ext4.zip
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Thats odd, it downloaded good on my phone, Linux, and XP. here's a direct link to it that's not run through the file manager on the site, should work fine that way (still working out some bugs lol)
UbuntuTouch-DevPreview-Mako.ext4.zip
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Thanks, that link worked first time
Ok I have extracted the image to sd on fat32 renamed it UbuntuTouch.ext4.img and put it in linux-files/system
The linload app manages to mount the image, but when i try to start vnc, i get
"bash: vncserver: command not found" in terminal after some other stuff, leaving me at the prompt.
I have tried to connect using other vnc viewers but no joy yet.
I have partitioned my 32gb card with 16gb fat32, 10gb ext4, 4gb ext4(empty) and 256mb linux swap. And ideally would like to use the 3rd partition for the image. Do i just put the UbuntuTouch.ext4.img file there and point to it with linload?
Thanks again
Edit; using tytung jb 1.3a on nativeSD
The Touch preview doesn't have vnc install when you first download it, and from what I've seen looking around in it, there isn't a command to start up unity.
One thing you can try is to install vncserver, then see if you can get it to load an "ubuntu-session" from the xstartup file. I'm not sure if that will work though :/
I've almost got the source finished downloading, once thats done ill be trying for a working kernel to see if I can get this setup as its own rom
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One thing you can try is to install vncserver, then see if you can get it to load an "ubuntu-session" from the xstartup file.
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I will play around a bit more, but not sure how that works.
No worries though, as is preview.
Best of luck with it:fingers-crossed:
Ubuntu Touch Developer is currently running on the devices listed below - Devices
Waiting for our HD2!
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It doesn't seem like it's possible to find something with Android 5.1 (or later) and 2GB RAM. The only one I can find is the InDashNet unit except that one seems to still be in beta and buggy.
Doesn't anyone make something with 2GB RAM and a modern release of the OS? Getting real sick of my AppRadio issues, but I don't want to deal with the headache of 1GB RAM or an old OS.
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It doesn't seem like it's possible to find something with Android 5.1 (or later) and 2GB RAM. The only one I can find is the InDashNet unit except that one seems to still be in beta and buggy.
Doesn't anyone make something with 2GB RAM and a modern release of the OS? Getting real sick of my AppRadio issues, but I don't want to deal with the headache of 1GB RAM or an old OS.
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These are legitimate concerns, I've been reading the forums and still haven't come to any solid conclusions yet either.
Same for me. Checking this forum almost daily since several months now to see if something with Android 5.1+ and 2GB RAM comes out... I will probably not wait much longer and just order the InDashNet unit...
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I am sure I probably am over simplifying things here, but isn't there a way to add a bigger RAM chip to these things like a PC?
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It doesn't seem like it's possible to find something with Android 5.1 (or later) and 2GB RAM. The only one I can find is the InDashNet unit except that one seems to still be in beta and buggy.
Doesn't anyone make something with 2GB RAM and a modern release of the OS? Getting real sick of my AppRadio issues, but I don't want to deal with the headache of 1GB RAM or an old OS.
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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First listing doesn't specify which version of Android it is running. The second one says it's running 4.4. That's too old. I want 5.1 or later and 2GB RAM. That combination doesn't seem available.
Mr Metalhead said:
I am sure I probably am over simplifying things here, but isn't there a way to add a bigger RAM chip to these things like a PC?
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No you can't do that. It's all soldered in, not using DIMMs.
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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Ownice C200 offered 2GB of RAM, but their newest unit is the C300, and it went back to 1GB of RAM. not sure why, maybe they had problems with the 2GB
Why not grab one thats 4.4 and usually cheaper than 5.1 and just upgrade it ? I've seen them on aliexpress not many but some..
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Why not grab one thats 4.4 and usually cheaper than 5.1 and just upgrade it ? I've seen them on aliexpress not many but some..
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As far as I know, they are not upgradable to 5.1. Only if you do a hardware upgrade/downgrade to an MTCD mainboard with 1GB RAM you can upgrade to Android 5.1.
So it seems there is an incompatibility between 2GB and Android 5.1 or there is some software development necessary to allow this... I think I saw a statement from Joying that they are working on it...
There is no comparability issue with 2gigs of ram and Android 5.x
Its called cheap. They want to reduce the cost of the hardware.
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There is no comparability issue with 2gigs of ram and Android 5.x
Its called cheap. They want to reduce the cost of the hardware.
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Could you please point me to a specific unit. I cannot find any unit which has 2GB RAM and Android 5.x or upgradable to 5.x.
I am genuinely interested. Thanks.
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There is no comparability issue with 2gigs of ram and Android 5.x
Its called cheap. They want to reduce the cost of the hardware.
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my guess is it's a MCU limitation. I am pretty certain RAM would not be a software (android) limitation. But the MCU is effectively a black box on these things that impacts just about every aspect of overall functionality. And the fact that the MCU hacked together by chinese/indian engineers with very low R&D budgets, we have the issues we have today. Someone needs to open source the MCU and allow it to be fully customizable somehow. I imagine the community here could come up with some fantasic mods, such as digital audio out, support for better internal hardware, better bluetooth integration, etc.
I am surprised that for this long, nobody has managed to fully decode the MCU.
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my guess is it's a MCU limitation. I am pretty certain RAM would not be a software (android) limitation. But the MCU is effectively a black box on these things that impacts just about every aspect of overall functionality. And the fact that the MCU hacked together by chinese/indian engineers with very low R&D budgets, we have the issues we have today. Someone needs to open source the MCU and allow it to be fully customizable somehow. I imagine the community here could come up with some fantasic mods, such as digital audio out, support for better internal hardware, better bluetooth integration, etc.
I am surprised that for this long, nobody has managed to fully decode the MCU.
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They usually standard MCU chips. Someone would have to completely recode a working source. Which would be really impossible. I agree it would be nice to see one full MCU source code.
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Could you please point me to a specific unit. I cannot find any unit which has 2GB RAM and Android 5.x or upgradable to 5.x.
I am genuinely interested. Thanks.
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http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...Universal-For-Nissan/1333672_32707119098.html
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http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...Universal-For-Nissan/1333672_32707119098.html
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They write RAM: 1G. Several times in the description.
The problem with sellers on Aliexpress is that they even confuse RAM and ROM and falsely write 2GB RAM in title although everywhere in the article it says RAM 1GB.
Any other suggestions?
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I wonder how come no one in the states has attempted their own Android head unit production. Why are we leaving it all to the Chinese? Why couldn't we produce our own hardware and mcu?
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Here you go, 2GB ram. http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-C200...WiFi-Android-Quad-Core-for-BMW-p-1061269.html
http://www.banggood.com/Ownice-Car-...d-Core-WiFi-Canbus-Android-4_4-p-1049038.html
They have vehicle specific kits too.
A lot of them are starting to make/test the 2GB version so I assume more to come later this year.
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Ownice c200 is definitely only 4.4 at the moment.
We where promised an update but we still haven't had it.
Since then they released the c300 but it has only 1gb and still only 4.4
The reason they say it's only 1gb is it has a different cpu (not an rk chip like every other unit)
They still sell the c200 so i don't think they are dropping it.
Long story short. No 2gb lollipop at the moment. I've settled for 4.4 myself but i got my unit 18 months ago.
Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I wonder how come no one in the states has attempted their own Android head unit production. Why are we leaving it all to the Chinese? Why couldn't we produce our own hardware and mcu?
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Too small of a market. Despite what you might gather from these forums, this is a very low quantity, niche market, and the active participants want things at rock bottom prices. US production costs, especially for such a small market, just aren't economically viable.
Honestly, If you aren't satisfied with the current crop of units (and I'm not), then your best bet is going to be some type of DIY project. I've got a Raspberry PI 3 and a SDR sitting on my workbench waiting to be worked on. You might also consider some variety of tablet install (I'm kind of torn between going this route and the rpi3).
But regardless of DIY, Chinese Headunit, whatever, this will ultimately boil down to software. Without a well thought out, extensible front end/UI, it will continue to be frustrating. Such software would be awesome if opensource, but I have my doubts. The in-dash-net units are supposed to be going that route, but I'm not holding my breath.
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But regardless of DIY, Chinese Headunit, whatever, this will ultimately boil down to software. Without a well thought out, extensible front end/UI, it will continue to be frustrating. Such software would be awesome if opensource, but I have my doubts. The in-dash-net units are supposed to be going that route, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The funny thing about the software, is that all the different specialized parts of the software actually exist already in open source. The biggest hurdle is actually handling a phone call. The "back end" of this process, bluetooth HFP-client profile, is available in AOSP. There is a "demo" application for actually managing that backend available in codeaurora.
Aside from that, you also have AM/FM radio to think about, but that is fairly simple.
Honestly, the biggest part of this problem is the hardware.
see title - can that a/b partitioning be removed somehow? i dont need two system and/or kernel partitions to be honest - for me it seems like a waste of space. any idea?
OTA stock updates assume a/b so they will fail. TWRP also assumes a/b.
So you end up a bit on your own with a device perhaps having some more internal space but with no standard tools to manage it.
Well, I have an phone from 2017 and this damn A/B partition scheme clogs up all the storage, it uses 16 GB of 32 GB, which is is absolutely insane. This is twice the 8 GB that Android 9 normally uses. I will not get any more updates, Android 9 is the last update that this phone (moto X4) will ever get, so I want to get rid of this useless bloat of data that is just sitting around and will never ever get used again. But how to do it? It seems to be some kind of super secret magic knowhow that nobody has, I really hate Android for this proprietary closed nature and intransparency, I use Linux and it is all so much easier on there.
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Well, I have an phone from 2017 and this damn A/B partition scheme clogs up all the storage, it uses 16 GB of 32 GB, which is is absolutely insane. This is twice the 8 GB that Android 9 normally uses. I will not get any more updates, Android 9 is the last update that this phone (moto X4) will ever get, so I want to get rid of this useless bloat of data that is just sitting around and will never ever get used again. But how to do it? It seems to be some kind of super secret magic knowhow that nobody has, I really hate Android for this proprietary closed nature and intransparency, I use Linux and it is all so much easier on there.
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perhaps 2017 moto X4 messed up partition sizes ... since, even a 256GB 1+8T does sum up boot+system+vendor+product around 4GB. Android 9 boot+system should certainly also hardly exceed 4GB (only half I would guess). And there is no data duplication for sure. Agreed 4GB lost out of 32GB would be something (but not absolutely insane as compared to benefit). Then still, 16GB lost from 32GB really is too much for sure but cannot be blamed to Android design idea (which, by the way, is open by nature) but only be blamed to (maybe only this particular) moto. Finally, Linux repartitioning is no magic secret at all.
Yes, Linux partitioning is super trivial and very well documented. Android partitioning is unknown, never have seen any articles about it. Please share if you know a link. Android is theoretically open source, but not really: Try to run any version of Android on a certain cellphone and you will find that you can't, you can only run certain versions and even these might not work. This is very much unlike Linux, where you can run any Linux on any Laptop easily.
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Found this apparently interesting TV box more or less recently. It's sold at a very attractive price, and can be bought in configurations with up to 8 GiB of RAM and 128 GB of storage, so I guess that it must come with a 64-bit operating system or firmware. And well, according to “REVIEW: X88 PRO 20 a low-cost Android TV-Box with SoC Rockchip RK3566 @ AndroidpcTV”, the TV box's firmware supports the arm64_v8a ABI, so 64-bit yes.
About this box I only found the thread “X88 pro 20 RK3566” opened close to a year ago, but it contains just a confusing question and no further information.
So, may some of you provide feedback about this TV box? It looks appealing, but of course I need to be able to root it; this is the single most important factor. Once rooted, any limitations in the stock ROM can be fixed and it also is fully customizable; just hope it is stable, of course.
Can someone provide information on rooting this box? Custom firmwares?
Thank you.
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Found this apparently interesting TV box more or less recently. It's sold at a very attractive price, and can be bought in configurations with up to 8 GiB of RAM and 128 GB of storage, so I guess that it must come with a 64-bit operating system or firmware. And well, according to “REVIEW: X88 PRO 20 a low-cost Android TV-Box with SoC Rockchip RK3566 @ AndroidpcTV”, the TV box's firmware supports the arm64_v8a ABI, so 64-bit yes.
About this box I only found the thread “X88 pro 20 RK3566” opened close to a year ago, but it contains just a confusing question and no further information.
So, may some of you provide feedback about this TV box? It looks appealing, but of course I need to be able to root it; this is the single most important factor. Once rooted, any limitations in the stock ROM can be fixed and it also is fully customizable; just hope it is stable, of course.
Can someone provide information on rooting this box? Custom firmwares?
Thank you.
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I have one, and the only method for rooting is installing another rom, I think the rom with root is the "hk1-rbox-r2-RK3566_DC_R2_HK5235F_11_20210705.1409", but the T95 Plus and H96 Max rom also works (but it doesn't have root), other thing you can do is flash a linux debian using the tutorial described in the forum t95plus.com, but sadly my x88 pro 20 is defective, every app I open (while using android) crashes after some time, and while in linux firefox keeps crashing, I don't know what's the issue, and since so few people have this box I can't find anyone else having this problem
Thanks for contributing, GamingSoldier. My interest in this box sort of vanished, mainly because I was just finding a good TV box solution to pair with an old good TV which I have lying around for someone else, and that someone else decided to buy a new inexpensive set… Of course, suffice to say these people must not be aware of the very limited Android system they are getting, or of how much better it could be.
Anyway, I digged on the subject of rooting without a custom recovery, and found the following very helpful video and article:
Extract Boot.Img Directly From Device Without Downloading Firmware @ DroidWin
This pretty much enables rooting of any device with minimum hassle.
Besides this, I'd love to know if the ROM of this device is stable and works well. I understand you are probably not going to say much in this respect, GamingSoldier; unless you get a new one, that is.
Barkuti said:
Thanks for contributing, GamingSoldier. My interest in this box sort of vanished, mainly because I was just finding a good TV box solution to pair with an old good TV which I have lying around for someone else, and that someone else decided to buy a new inexpensive set… Of course, suffice to say these people must not be aware of the very limited Android system they are getting, or of how much better it could be.
Anyway, I digged on the subject of rooting without a custom recovery, and found the following very helpful video and article:
Extract Boot.Img Directly From Device Without Downloading Firmware @ DroidWin
This pretty much enables rooting of any device with minimum hassle.
Besides this, I'd love to know if the ROM of this device is stable and works well. I understand you are probably not going to say much in this respect, GamingSoldier; unless you get a new one, that is.
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I don't know if the rom is stable, because my x88 has a hardware issue that keeps making apps crash, and it's not the software because I tested multiple ROMS and all of them cause this issue, about the magisk, I already know the app, but the magisk is unable to patch the rockchip boot.img
Well GamingSoldier, it's clear that you would need to get a new RK3566 X88 Pro 20 for testing its ROM, or at least fix the problem your box has if you are able. Speaking of which, did you open the box to check inside already? Because the problem could be something simple to fix like improper SoC cooling or some electronic component. After all, if the box doesn't works there's nothing to lose in doing so except a little bit of time and effort.
Concerning Magisk not being able to patch the RK3566 boot.img (sure?), I was going to say that you could say something in this respect in the Magisk thread, although I see it was closed long ago. So, the best thing to do is to inquire topjohnwu directly about Magisk's support for Rockchip SoCs, I guess. There's also topjohnwu's GitHub page with further information and etcetera.
And now that we're here I am not going to say that these boxes probably suck in certain ways, although I could. A working hardware matters, and proper working software matters too.
A tad off topic, very recently I've been checking the Orange Pi 5 Plus, for whatever reason. It uses a far more powerful and fully fledged Rockchip RK3588 SoC, and I see it somewhat below $200 (or even a hair below $180!) in 16 GiB of RAM configuration and including USB-C power supply. It clearly is something in another league, and very recently got new Android 12 images for SD card boot and fast 2280 M.2 NVMe storage boot; and it has accessible source code, which is very important developer wise.
It's a lot more money to spend at, but it also is a real Android computer which you can attach to TVs or monitors…
First thing I did after the apps started closing was to open the box and I added a bigger heatsink, I also tried increase the SOC voltage to see if it was a low voltage issue, and if I'm not mistaken I also tested the ram while I was using linux, and still, a paper weight...
After I discovered this issue and was unable to fix it I started to flash any RK3566 or RK3568 rom in to my x88 pro 20, most of them appear the logo screen, but are stuck in that image, I don't know much about these rom's, but might be just one thing or two preventing me from booting into the system