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Hello to all
I apologise if this is in the wrong section.
I've searched high and low for info on how to get steering controls to work. My alfa 159 has no blue and me just standard head unit set up. I purchased this unit guaranteed to work with alfa 159. I purchased the head unit from kaigele.
Basic signals from can bus interface box are all working ignition,park brake, illumination and speed pulse.
The new head unit has can bus input which i'm assuming is for steering controls. In factory setting page the can bus setting is set to Alfa Romeo. Not sure what else to do. I'm hoping someone out there can help me. Thanks in advance.
Silly question..but have you tried mapping the steering wheel buttons under the settings menu?
You might want to make that clear that you have accessed that menu and there is no reaction...
Just a thought...
Good point. I wish it was that simple. I have tried mapping the buttons in the setting menu. Nothing works. Any idea's?
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One other thing worth noting, i purchased the car with another after market head unit, again with steering controls not working. This is why I purchased the Huifei unit. After installing the new unit and finding that the buttons dont work i did a can bus scan using fiat scan software. This tells me that the radio node has been removed from the network. This can only be done via proxy alignment. I'm thinking this was done when the other after market head unit was installed. Do you think that when the proxy alignment was done, it may have disabled everything associated with the radio node including steering wheel controls. Only a thought??
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i think nobody understands what you writing..too complicated
I think you need to leave part of the original stereo in the Alfa and then do a cam reset, otherwise the cambus sees something is wrong and disables it (as you're seeing).
That's my understanding, but don't take it as gospel.
Given that the last post here was October, you've probably worked it out anyway, in which case if you have a working solution to the "I want an Android HU in my 159" question, I'd appreciate hearing it.
Hello!
I´ve recently got a Witson HU (MTCD 1.97a) with the Canbus adapter for my Fiat Bravo (2013).
The steering wheel controls function ok (vol up, vol down,...) but i´ve seen another HU displaying "door opened" or other msgs (displayed in center car display), overwritten on HU display that look like the ones that appear when you change volume...
I tried various canbus settings (i found 2 different for the Fiat Bravo) but neither of them works as aspected. One is ok for the steering wheel controls and the other does nothing. But again... no extra msgs on screen.
Is it ok like this? Maybe the canbus decoder only works for those msgs, and ignore the rest of the canbus data...
any ideas would be appreciated!! thanks in advance!
greetings from Argentina!
_javi_ said:
Hello!
I´ve recently got a Witson HU (MTCD 1.97a) with the Canbus adapter for my Fiat Bravo (2013).
The steering wheel controls function ok (vol up, vol down,...) but i´ve seen another HU displaying "door opened" or other msgs (displayed in center car display), overwritten on HU display that look like the ones that appear when you change volume...
I tried various canbus settings (i found 2 different for the Fiat Bravo) but neither of them works as aspected. One is ok for the steering wheel controls and the other does nothing. But again... no extra msgs on screen.
Is it ok like this? Maybe the canbus decoder only works for those msgs, and ignore the rest of the canbus data...
any ideas would be appreciated!! thanks in advance!
greetings from Argentina!
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That feature doesnt necessarily work on all cars, look for an app like "Car settings" or "Car service" in the apps when you have it set on the 2 Fiat Bravo CAN Bus setting, if you cant find it anywhere, go through all apps, if you still cant find anything, then that feature is not supported. You could also try any other Fiat CAN Bus setting, or maybe Lancias, Alfa or even some Chrysler vehicles theyre all made by FCA so there is a possibility it may work, probably not but worth trying.
You could also try the menu on the car, I know on the Bravo you can control some stuff on the factory nav unit, if you didnt ahve nav in the car it may be a case of turning the feature on via the car before it will work.
After typos1 tip, i set the canbus mode to ALFA ROMEO. The display shows an overhead view of a car, with the doors or boot being opened. Great!!! BUT... i lost steering wheel controls. Bad!!
So i´ll wait for an OS update to fix this thing.
The calibration screen for steering wheel controls doesnt show any option, in any case.
thanks again!
_javi_ said:
After typos1 tip, i set the canbus mode to ALFA ROMEO. The display shows an overhead view of a car, with the doors or boot being opened. Great!!! BUT... i lost steering wheel controls. Bad!!
So i´ll wait for an OS update to fix this thing.
The calibration screen for steering wheel controls doesnt show any option, in any case.
thanks again!
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Ah, thats annoying.
The OS has nothing to do with it, its the MCU that deals with this sort of stuff, so an OS update for wont help, an MCU update may do IF they add full support for the Bravo and theres no guarantee that they will.
Some cars have CAN Bus but use resistive SWC (my Alfa is like this, but some Alfas do have CAN Bus SWC) which could explain it.
There may be a way round it if you buy an SWC adapter for your car. These headunits supposedly use the same SWC protocol as Pioneer, so if you got a Pioneer/Fiat Bravo SWC adapter, disconnected the 2 SWC wires from your CAN Bus box and attached them to the SWC adapter it would convert the CAN Bus SWC signal from your car into resistive so the stereo can understand them. AFAIK this has not been done before but it should work.
EDIT : didnt spot the bit about the SWC calibration not showing up, damn, I guess you could extract the SWC app using the app "APKextractor" and see if it installs when the stereo is in Alfa Romeo CAN Bus mode.
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EDIT : didnt spot the bit about the SWC calibration not showing up, damn, I guess you could extract the SWC app using the app "APKextractor" and see if it installs when the stereo is in Alfa Romeo CAN Bus mode.
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browsing other threads i saw there are users with the same issue. SWC app shows just a blank screen (with save and reset buttons on top).
I´m still studying this (among other things... the mtcd HU is nice.. but it looks like it needs polishing)
hi, is your witson still working?
Hi ive recently bought a android PX3 head unit, installed it ok but it has changed my milage into KM as im in the UK i need the speedo in MPH, there is a app installed called control settings, in this there is a milage setting set to < KM > but it wont change, most of the settings in the control settings app like temp set to C wont change to F either, indicators set to one flash etc the only setting that i can change is CD indicator.
would anyone know if this could be a software bug with the MCU or the android version?
where would i look for a update? i dont even know who the manifacturer is.
The head unit has no physical buttons only a reset hole so can anyone please tell me how i would get to the recovery screen?
ive never had a android head unit before so dont know much about these units.
Can anyone please help me change/fix this setting or another app or update i can install that can change the milage back from KM to miles,
model px3
android 7.1.2
kernel 3.0.101+
mcu MTCE_KSP2_V2.70a_1
thanks for any help
regards
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would this work with the HU, just connect upthe 3 wires? and not connect the HU plug connector that goes to my info screen?
regards
I have the same problem, in the US with a BMW 90 android head unit. I think there is a bug in the MCU firmware that reverts back to Metric units on boot. Lucky for me, I am able to change things from Control Settings app but I do have to do it every time the unit boots. I have reported this to the seller of my head unit but they don't have any solutions. I am hoping they will fix it in the near future.
did you ever get your problem sorted as I now have the same problem
Hi no the seller didnt want to know and just fobbed me off for months before blanking me on whatsapp, no firmware updat as promised, nothing, so what i did was got a set of these:T - 3 Car Intelligent Steering Wheel GPS, hang up/answer, volume setting, music Controller with Noctilucent Function buttons https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Zee...191.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.68734c4dUQL81J whicc work quite well, ive also recently ordered a button stalk like how the older radion buttons were: Car steering wheel button remote control lights car navigation DVD / 2 din android Bluetooth wireless Universal remote control,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car...596.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.68734c4dUQL81J but im still awaiting delivery of it.
ill be very happy with the stalk as well as the buttons ive stuck to the centre consol, no where near as cool as the steering wheel controls but i really needed my speedo in MPH
anyways hope this helps somewhat not perfect but better than the speedo flashing between KM/MPH
regards
shadowfoxmi said:
I have the same problem, in the US with a BMW 90 android head unit. I think there is a bug in the MCU firmware that reverts back to Metric units on boot. Lucky for me, I am able to change things from Control Settings app but I do have to do it every time the unit boots. I have reported this to the seller of my head unit but they don't have any solutions. I am hoping they will fix it in the near future.
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I know this is old but I have the same issue with my Joying head unit and my BMW e90. On start up, I have to go into my settings and set everything to American/Imperial units. Did you ever find a fix to this? It's driving me nuts.
Hello,
These units are available for E83, E84, F25, F30 and other BMW models, share the same hardware and only base, connectors, harnesses and MCU versions change according to specific model. They are probably produced from one factory but u will them around with brands like: MEKEDE, NAVIFFLY, DASAITA, UGODE, AVIN etc. So there are CCC, CIC, and NBT MCU versions. Mine is for E83 X3 and came with a CIC version. Aliexpress sellers support is zero... Anyway I need desperately to update MCU and I cannot through normal menu way. It just recognises the update file, suppose to start procedure and then u wait forever and nothing happens. It is a common issue lately since it is being discussed many times at f30bimmerpost forum. Can some expert guy pls suggest a different procedure like renaming the file and force update it somehow during booting maybe??
the file is in an mcuupdate.bin form.
Thanks a lot!
Ducvfr said:
Hello,
These units are available for E83, E84, F25, F30 and other BMW models, share the same hardware and only base, connectors, harnesses and MCU versions change according to specific model. They are probably produced from one factory but u will them around with brands like: MEKEDE, NAVIFFLY, DASAITA, UGODE, AVIN etc. So there are CCC, CIC, and NBT MCU versions. Mine is for E83 X3 and came with a CIC version. Aliexpress sellers support is zero... Anyway I need desperately to update MCU and I cannot through normal menu way. It just recognises the update file, suppose to start procedure and then u wait forever and nothing happens. It is a common issue lately since it is being discussed many times at f30bimmerpost forum. Can some expert guy pls suggest a different procedure like renaming the file and force update it somehow during booting maybe??
the file is in an mcuupdate.bin form.
Thanks a lot!
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I have the same issue. When i plug the usb with mpuupdate.bin in usb slot nothing happens.
Did you use sdcard? try
d1egulopes said:
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Of cource I did, no difference.
This is really annoying I am having the same problem. There must be a way to force install mcu like the firmware. Maybe the file needs a different name or header. I don't know. Hope someone has a suggestion.
similar issue here ..
and yes I hit some search button..
having the 10.25,
installed and first it did work. (with ccc head unit)
accidentally hit a update wile first time opening file explorer, that one changed my fortune.
I think I am now in cic or such...
cant get into my native system.
idrive button does not take enter, but idrive can be used to go back to android (holding it for 5 sec)
so I stuck in nowhere (cant even change audio/aux)
so how can I get it back to ccc ?
am guess I need a mcu file, where can I get one ?
cheers
and thanks form Germany
Vollthrottle
Vollthrottle said:
similar issue here ..
and yes I hit some search button..
having the 10.25,
installed and first it did work. (with ccc head unit)
accidentally hit a update wile first time opening file explorer, that one changed my fortune.
I think I am now in cic or such...
cant get into my native system.
idrive button does not take enter, but idrive can be used to go back to android (holding it for 5 sec)
so I stuck in nowhere (cant even change audio/aux)
so how can I get it back to ccc ?
am guess I need a mcu file, where can I get one ?
cheers
and thanks form Germany
Vollthrottle
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Now I got everything.
new os img
new mcu update . bin
no fix
got second unit all frehs and new
no change. can bus commands from ifdrive controller do not work.
there have been some posts reporting the same issue (idrive controller hangs) but there is no solution posted.
my guess > something wrong inside mcu settings.
Hello,
Same issue here (but with 10.25" PX6 android 8.1 CCC idrive).
- idrive works on android side.
- idrive does not work on original OEM screen (BMW menu).
The seller asked me to update mcu twice, nothing has changed (did not validate the reception of my order until tested, so no payment from Aliexpress to seller until it works ...).
I did not tried to full update (did not find PX6.img file on the net, and from what people are reporting, it does not change a thing).
One thing I have noticed :
- when on android idrive works
- then when switch to BMW menu (click on "Car Info"), if I try actions, nothing happens.
- BUT, when I go back to android (press menu 3secs), the android cursor has moved !
This means that idrive actions are NOT forwarded to CCC controller, AND interpreted inside android !
It seems so stupid, but this little bug ruins the possibility to use this screen at all : if we cannot go on the BMW menu to set the correct outputs and shortcut, it is totally useless.
Vollthrottle said:
Now I got everything.
new os img
new mcu update . bin
no fix
got second unit all frehs and new
no change. can bus commands from ifdrive controller do not work.
there have been some posts reporting the same issue (idrive controller hangs) but there is no solution posted.
my guess > something wrong inside mcu settings.
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BMW 10.25" HU Android 7.1 px3 MCU update issue
yes very annoying.
maybe time to hang our post one line up and make it a new thread!?
base info:
android 8.1
image: px6
mcu / . 023042bGS-ccc-hw8-190401 (B1280_170325)
I have exactly the same issue. Idrive controller works for Android menu but when entering car info the idrive controller doesn't work. When I connect my original CCC screen and the android together entering car info the idrive controller works on the old idrive system. Changing the CCC screen cable to route to the android screen again still gives me the non working idrive controller. Seems there is something wrong with either the CCC screen cable that came with the unit or the firmware. Did someone already got a fix? It is really annoying.
Thanks
same here
Hello,
Same here for me, 2005 e87 CCC car with idrive, Android 8.1 Px6 unit : idrive moves not working on BMW OEM menu when using new screen.
To be more precise : the moves / events made on the idrive when in original BMW menu does not do anything on the original interface, BUT, are interpreted on the android side!
The Mcu firmware does not seem to redirect correctly the CAN bus idrive knob messages to the CCC controller.
If someone has some infos on the Mcu source code used... It would help...
At least I know we are not alone and this seems to be CCC with 8.1 related...
Regards all
ulysse31_revient said:
Hello,
Same here for me, 2005 e87 CCC car with idrive, Android 8.1 Px6 unit : idrive moves not working on BMW OEM menu when using new screen.
To be more precise : the moves / events made on the idrive when in original BMW menu does not do anything on the original interface, BUT, are interpreted on the android side!
The Mcu firmware does not seem to redirect correctly the CAN bus idrive knob messages to the CCC controller.
If someone has some infos on the Mcu source code used... It would help...
At least I know we are not alone and this seems to be CCC with 8.1 related...
Regards all
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I am not sure whether it has to do with the MCU.. When i connect the android unit but connect the lvds cable from the radio unit to the original screen switching to car info on the android unit gives me the ability to control the original ccc screen with the idrive button. It seems like the MCU works correct than right? One thing i have noticed is that the original lvds cable (that plugs in to the radio unit and to the screen) has a metal harness (i think for the ground) . The cable that i got with the android unit doesn't have a metal harness but on the HU android side the connector seems to have a ground connector, could it just be that the cable is not correct? The ground of the radio unit should be connected to the metal side on the android HU cable? Do you have the same cable?
Here is a video where can see how the two screens together do work: (search on youtube for: "Idrive not working in android 10.25 car info" my username is pietklazen100) (sorry as a new member i am not allowed to post links yet)
The automatic aux switching works when entering video on the android HU and entering car info also lets me control the unit. The only thing that is different in this setup is the lvds cable...
ErikE87 said:
I have exactly the same issue. Idrive controller works for Android menu but when entering car info the idrive controller doesn't work. When I connect my original CCC screen and the android together entering car info the idrive controller works on the old idrive system. Changing the CCC screen cable to route to the android screen again still gives me the non working idrive controller. Seems there is something wrong with either the CCC screen cable that came with the unit or the firmware. Did someone already got a fix? It is really annoying.
Thanks
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Exactly the same here.
I think this issue is clearly software-related.
Because if I press the button of the iDrive (in the original menu) nothing happens.
BUT when I push it to the sides (left, right, top, bottom) for longer, the 4 menus are changing.
But I cannot control anything there.
WTF is going on?
Where can I change to bloody config?
I can't listen to FM or anything else.
Factory setup code?
bthight said:
WTF is going on?
Where can I change to bloody config?
I can't listen to FM or anything else.
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There is a factory settings menu item. However i dont know the code to enter it
This is where you change the idrive your car has.
I am looking for the code also. Would be happy with suggestions!!
1314
sanderbaks said:
There is a factory settings menu item. However i dont know the code to enter it
This is where you change the idrive your car has.
I am looking for the code also. Would be happy with suggestions!!
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code is 1314
Code
seaman5705 said:
code is 1314
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That code is not correct for me. Thanks for the feed back!
Any other codes are appreciated!
Ducvfr said:
Hello,
These units are available for E83, E84, F25, F30 and other BMW models, share the same hardware and only base, connectors, harnesses and MCU versions change according to specific model. They are probably produced from one factory but u will them around with brands like: MEKEDE, NAVIFFLY, DASAITA, UGODE, AVIN etc. So there are CCC, CIC, and NBT MCU versions. Mine is for E83 X3 and came with a CIC version. Aliexpress sellers support is zero... Anyway I need desperately to update MCU and I cannot through normal menu way. It just recognises the update file, suppose to start procedure and then u wait forever and nothing happens. It is a common issue lately since it is being discussed many times at f30bimmerpost forum. Can some expert guy pls suggest a different procedure like renaming the file and force update it somehow during booting maybe??
the file is in an mcuupdate.bin form.
Thanks a lot!
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Hello Ducvfr,
The parking sensor is working for you in rear camera screen ? I means you can see the PDC radar in the right hand side.
Did you try Picture in Picture function ? For exemple, can you see youtube on rear camera view ?
sanderbaks said:
That code is not correct for me. Thanks for the feed back!
Any other codes are appreciated!
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Did you find out what the code is?
Should be 1314
sanderbaks said:
Factory setup code?
There is a factory settings menu item. However i dont know the code to enter it
This is where you change the idrive your car has.
I am looking for the code also. Would be happy with suggestions!!
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code is 1314 if you still need
I have a Bosion PX6 Android 10 head unit.
My car is a Toyota Camry 2010 that came with a basic radio with XM radio and the Bosion 10" is an amazing upgrade for this car.
I am having a problem with the steering wheel controls as they don't set up with the button setup in the vehicle setup menu. I have tried many times with different settings.
The buttons on the left side of the steering wheel sort of work, the ones on the right do not seem to work at all.
In the hidden menu the various CANBUS settings don't really make any difference. There's like 10 different Toyota settings but all act the same as setting the Canbus to 0 (no Canbus?).
Anyone have any suggestions to resolve this?
I'm also looking for Bosion contact info or web page.
okay, the key is in the hidden menu or factory menu, you really need to search (depending in the canbus module you have) the car maker and model.
The canbus must show up and report the version.
The menu you find to setup the buttons in the android will never work.
hang in there you'll get it.
cowboypt said:
okay, the key is in the hidden menu or factory menu, you really need to search (depending in the canbus module you have) the car maker and model.
The canbus must show up and report the version.
The menu you find to setup the buttons in the android will never work.
hang in there you'll get it.
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It sounds like you know what you are talking about. Fyi that I have been through the hidden menu. When you say the canbus must show up and report the version, I am not clear on what you mean. I have tried all 7 or 8 Toyota canbus configs and when I select any, the phone loads an associated program and reboots. None are really making any difference, always the left buttons kind of work and nothing on the right.
Any suggestions you have would really be appreciated.
Where you see the kernel version, os version and mcu version you must have also canbus version.
Can't show it to you now but you should see something like simple and version as 1.13.something
If nothing is there, the canbus config is not yet correct and radio can't detect correctly the canbus box. But you say that some steering wheel buttons are working. In this case. It seems to me that the canbus module in the radio is not yet updated to your car or the canbus box firmware is also not with a version where your car is supported. Contact the seller and claim if you still have time for it.
UPDATE: added aftermarket canbus box has corrected 90% of the buttons. The remaining button is the Voice button to issue voice commands to the phone. This is not a choice within the head unit button mapping. I suppose I should try a different car selection (?).
Anyone know if there is a website for Bosion for manuals and updates?
I don't think so :/ I've tried to get some answers from manufacturer but they aren't well informed, i think. Or they are not willing to tell a secret :/
rkrigsman said:
UPDATE: added aftermarket canbus box has corrected 90% of the buttons. The remaining button is the Voice button to issue voice commands to the phone. This is not a choice within the head unit button mapping. I suppose I should try a different car selection (?).
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what can bus did you buy? for what car?
The car was a Toyota Camry.
kontosoglou said:
what can bus did you buy? for what car?
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Sorry for the delay, I have an aftermarket box from PAC called SW1-RC-1 which works 95% perfectly and allowed me to program the buttons as normal.
I have a 2010 Toyota Camry.
The only issue is the Bosion PX6 Android "10" is that in the setup for the canbus within the head unit, there is no button to map to for the voice button to on the steering wheel. Seems like a very odd issue as the voice button is so normal and I'm still looking for an update or a way to find that button in settings.