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Despite my attempts to block the OTA update, my fire now has 5.3.2. It definitely lags compared to the previous firmware version. Does anyone known if it can be downgraded via ABD without bricking?
gbennett said:
Despite my attempts to block the OTA update, my fire now has 5.3.2. It definitely lags compared to the previous firmware version. Does anyone known if it can be downgraded via ABD without bricking?
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I have read and was able to downgrade my 2015 Fire HD 7 from 5.3.2.0 to 5.3.1.0. Then I was able to install a CM Rom.
I also have the new HD 8 2016, but I am not sure if the downgrade will work.
Just bought a the HD 8 2016 since it is on sale (today) for $59 at Best Buy and THOUGHT I read it can be rooted, later learned it's only the older model that can be rooted. Really don't want an Android device that will remain unable to be rooted, so, might have to take it back even at that cheap price?
Would love to have a custom ROM on this tablet!
critofur said:
Just bought a the HD 8 2016 since it is on sale (today) for $59 at Best Buy and THOUGHT I read it can be rooted, later learned it's only the older model that can be rooted. Really don't want an Android device that will remain unable to be rooted, so, might have to take it back even at that cheap price?
Would love to have a custom ROM on this tablet!
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I bought it knowing that it can't be rooted at the moment. But I'm going to block updates with openDNS and cross my fingers for a future root method. Still a pretty good tablet for the money and the Play Store works too. However, I still love my cheap, year-old Fire 7" with CM 12.1 the most despite the screen resolution.
What steps are required to block updates with openDNS? Would like to try it on Fire 8, 6th gen.
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What steps are required to block updates with openDNS? Would like to try it on Fire 8, 6th gen.
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I used this method for my Fire TVs, and it appears to work on the Fire tabs too.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-bloc...-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/#opendns
Thanks. Looks like this could work on devices that don't leave home network.
Hopefully this Fire HD 8 tablet 6th generation - 2016 can be rooted in near future. Better to block the OTA updates. By the way, can someone pin-point the codename for this device ? That is similar to KFFOWI_Ford for 7'' Fire-2015.
kesavan2000in said:
Hopefully this Fire HD 8 tablet 6th generation - 2016 can be rooted in near future. Better to block the OTA updates. By the way, can someone pin-point the codename for this device ? That is similar to KFFOWI_Ford for 7'' Fire-2015.
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As I was trying KingRoot today it said the code for this one is "KFGIWI"
And I also saw another thread that stated KFGIWI_GI
I am looking for the complete guide / or steps to make my new Fire tablet as close to possible to my Galaxy Tablet which was destroyed in a fire.
I am quite savy when it comes to this sort of stuff so I don't think I should have a problem following some good advice.
I see more on the 5th Generation but I didn't want to go by anything there since this one is the latest model (Fire HD 8 6th Generation).
I have found bits and pieces but not enough to be able to follow through ... Any leads would be greatly appreciated !! Thank you !
j.b.
You clearly need to root your tablet to do that, but we have to wait until someone finds a way to do it for the 6th generation
Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
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Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
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Most of the times as you can clearly see here on xda it takes a while or maybe even a long time, for the amazon tablets to be root able. I would buy a 6th gen right now, when your not connecting it to the internet it should be possible for you to root it right now (if it has the right software version installed).
If you want to buy a 7th gen then there is the problem that you can't connect it to the internet, because it will automatically upgrade you will have to wait until there is a method to root it before you can normally use your tablet....:crying:
Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
Okay, I cross-referenced 2016 and 2017 and it's basically the same specs. Not sure it would be that much of an upgrade. I'll check what a 2016 HD 8 goes for at ebay.
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Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
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Is it expected that loading Google Play on the 7th gen will work the same way as it did for the 6th? I don't need root or a custom ROM, but I don't want to be limited to the Amazon app store.
I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
psychoxman said:
so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
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I took my HD 8 (7th Gen) straight out of it's box and followed the instructions. Now someone reported in the other thread their Fire 7 (7th Gen) had issues with the versions linked in the thread. Mine was sitting at Amazon OS 5.3.3.0 out of the box and I didn't update that first. The guy with the Fire 7 stated he was at 5.4.0. One other person with the Fire 7 ran into a similar issue, but used newer versions of the Play Store and Play Services to get it working.
I just checked on my tablet and the Play Store and Play Services on the HD 8 just updated in the last 5 minutes, they are within the same build cycles as the one guy listed as working on his Fire 7.
Google play works
I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
trovatrice said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
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Yes, Gmail from Google Play work correctly in my HD 8 2017.
so ive just found this site, only a couple days too late by the looks of it. i read (not very carefully) that it would be easy to root a kindle fire hd 8, so i just got one in the mail today (7th generation). i havent connected it to the internet, its got 5.3.3.0 on it, and my goal was to replace the stock OS with regular android. is this not currently an option?
(if not, any suggestions on what i should do/not do with it in the meantime? will connecting it to the internet begin an automatic software update that will render the device even more useless? i thought i read someone post something about that)
Fire HD 8 (2017) here on 8.4.0.0. Google apps sideload just fine. Removed lockscreen ads permanently just by submitting a help ticket.
It's a fabulous tablet for the price. I'm using mine primarily as a retro emulator although I can't find any good compact tablet gamepads (hoping to find a joycon-ish clone).
Fire HD 7thG- Screen cracked... What to do????
my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
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my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
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As far as I know, the difference between the 6th generation and 7th, is pretty much the programming and a few internal tweaks. I am about 90% sure there is nothing different about the physical hardware of the devices. So if you can find an HD 8 that's 6th generation, for real cheap, you can probably swap out the screen. There are several tutorials online if you do Google search, on how to do that. It sounds harder than it actually is. With that said, i am still looking for a cheap HD 7 so I can replace the screen in the one I have tucked away in a drawer.
I've never had an Android device, so I'm probably wording it completely wrong. But I AM in technology, so I can get around and understand pretty quick.
I just bought my son a Fire HD 10 (2017 version) for his birthday. I set it all up for him and put one of his favorite games on it - Vainglory. We noticed that any time there is a decent fight on the screen, it will lag out for 2-3 seconds, and then catch back up real quick. From their website, the Fire HD 10 exceeds all the requirements to run the game smoothly, so I'm wondering if it's all the Amazon bloatware that is causing the lag. First, do you think if I replaced the Fire OS with just stock Android, would it increase performance? Do you think I'll still have these lag issues even if I put stock Android on it? Second, if you think it will help, how do I wipe the Fire OS and install stock Android?
Nobody has any suggestions?
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.
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Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.
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Hello jrossh21 --- I read your original post twice. I realized why nobody responded with the exact solution. Time has passed and you've probably bought your son the perfect tablet for gaming. BUT, I wonder if your wife or son can spot the reason nobody has responded. Ask wife and kid(s) and make sure they read your original post ..... maybe they will have to read your original post two or more times, but I know they just might notice the reason. Anyway, do your best and make sure they read this posting from me so they know this exercise is real. Take a few days and reply to let me know if they get it or not.....we are trying to find out if anyone in your family can spot the reason nobody has responded with the exact solution. Hint: it has to do with your original post...trust me on that.
@KingRoseNot Do you have friends in real life? Read your post and maybe you will understand why I ask. Please tell me what it's like to live a lonely existence without any human contact. I really want to know. You must be a master at alienating yourself from other people. Just read your post and you will see what I mean. No, read it slowly. Maybe then you might be able to possible grasp the subtle intricacies of my question. Probably not, but maybe.
convit161 said:
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Can you unlock and root your Fire HD 10 using the exploit package amonet-suez
This link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639
Same, I have a fire tablet 5th gen with fire os 5.6.8.0 and trying to root without pc but no luck in finding tutorials, please help me to downgrade fire os 5.6.8.0 to 5.3.0
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
kybunnies said:
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
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Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
Davey126 said:
Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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No worries. You have a 2nd generation Fire HD 8.9 code named "jem". I have the 7 inch mode code named "tate". Both can be unlocked and accommodate a variety of custom ROMs. However, the path is not easy and will take a significant investment on your part to read up on techniques an caveats and then successfully apply them to your device. The following threads should prove helpful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-inch-help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-development
Alternatively, you can purchase a package that will simplify the process. This is one example:
https://www.perfectlyandroid.com
The site may look childish but the product is the real deal. That said, it is likely the support staff has moved on as 2nd generation devices haven't been sold since 2012. You may not need them but you'd probably want to confirm availability before laying down any coin.
Keep in mind this device is 6+ years old with limited capabilities even with a custom ROM. A $40 phone from WalMart will easily run circles around this pup.
Good luck.
So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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sd_shadow said:
Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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sd_shadow said:
Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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Okay I am showing how much I do not know about this stuff.
When I go to the app page at Amazon my device is not supported. The app is free so I have downloaded it and tried to sideload it. Again it will not install. I have found older versions of the app and some will install but they will not allow me to login and sync my info. I can login to the apps website via the device without any problems. The Wi-Fi signal is strong so that is not the problem. On my Kindle Fire purchased in July (used for digital books) the apps installs easily and I am able to log in.
Yes I know it would be easier to just put the app on the newer Kindle but the screen is smaller and some of the older adults at church enjoy seeing/reading all the different versions I pull up on the Bible. I just want to put the app on the larger screen Kindle and make it easier for everyone to see.