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http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Auto DVD ...VD GPS Navigation for 2din Universal_405.html
somebody buy this and review it
There seem to be 2 models in C500, universal one is 4 core and no DVD and cheaper. The DVD unit is 8 Core CPU and is almost double the price, I would wait for the 8 core to come up in Universal unit and then try
Sadly, they seem to have removed the volume knob (which was still present on the C300). I was looking forward to this, but now it seems like I have to look elsewhere - I won't buy a device on which I can't change the volume without looking at it.
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Associated with the manufacturer says that you can buy with С500 on 11/11/2016. There are big discounts.
I am a bit disappointed, the hardware is great but why don't they increase the memory to 3 or 4gb mem, a octa core uses more memory because there are more cores. And why no 32gb internal storage, every time the Android releases a new os, it grows, so there is less space for other things to store it on the 16gb storage. And does the GPS also support GLONASS and GALILEO?
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Sadly, they seem to have removed the volume knob (which was still present on the C300).
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I stand corrected - the DVD version has a volume knob. Can't find any details on pricing yet though.
http://www.ownice.com/Pro_2 din Car GPS for Toyota universal_409.html
Where does one find the prices for these?
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Where does one find the prices for these?
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So far i know only on Aliexpress... https://nl.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20161017155519&SearchText=ownice+c500
Hello.
I've see this, i'm really interested but the app radio is still with the frequence number and not radio name... (confirm by ownice) so i don't know what to do.....
It will be possible to root and install MTCRadio on this products ????
Thanks.
These are the second Android 6.0 units I've seen that have Kitkat UI elements like the navbar at the top and the launcher tabs.
Makes me wonder if these are really 6.0 or if they are a hybrid of all sorts of older pieces stuck together.
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These are the second Android 6.0 units I've seen that have Kitkat UI elements like the navbar at the top and the launcher tabs.
Makes me wonder if these are really 6.0 or if they are a hybrid of all sorts of older pieces stuck together.
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In all likelihood it's some terrifying mix of Android 4.4, 5.1, and 6.0. Am currently considering buying an Ownice C500 Android 6.0 unit for a future car purchase (BMW E90 or E92). When it happens I'll create a video review and forum post. Am incredibly curious to see if the "4G LTE SIM Support" actually works with Verizon.
If they supported a Verizon sim, I would be tempted to buy one
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If they supported a Verizon sim, I would be tempted to buy one
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https://winlink.en.alibaba.com/prod....html?spm=a2700.7803228.1998738836.186.whajPG
Hello.
Anyone know if in France the autoradio show the station name and the radio song title info with the rds ?
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I bought one yesterday. Will tell when it arrives.
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I bought one yesterday. Will tell when it arrives.
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Thanks... I am very very curious
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Thanks... I am very very curious
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me too.
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https://winlink.en.alibaba.com/prod....html?spm=a2700.7803228.1998738836.186.whajPG
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this doesn't say anything about Verizon? just says 4G LTE, I didn't see any bands listed, unless I missed it
On Road test of Ownice C500 – two weeks usage. DON’T BUY.:crying::crying:
I bought more than two weeks ago the unit. I installed on Subaru BRZ (same as Toyota GT86 and same wiring and Toyota harness of course, it's the same car!).
I was tired about BT issues on Xtrons PH75HGTA – MTCD platform on Lollipop 5.1 - related to DashCommand unable to pairing, usb dongle key operating only as router (wifi only 2.4Ghz not 5GHZ) and not in modem way, therefore you were obliged to run Dashcommand (and Torque Pro) with WiFi ODB loosing Internet connection capabilities.
About these features C500 fits well:
You can be online with a microSIM (4g/LTE full compliants to Euro frequencies), run DashCommand with ODB Link LX (genuine), answer the phone on BT (S7 Edge) or if you have a call+data plan on SIM you can make calls from C500 directly.
This sounds good but:
(After 4 firmware flashing - up to V39, latest available)
-FM RADIO is not a real RDS, no TEXT ON RDS, therefore you are on a ’80 radio (Saturday Night Fever age). Today in Europe none is surfing on numeric frequencies since 25 years.
- Equalization, lower and poor, the worst unit on the market (3 levels, bass, middle and treble with an elephantiac sensitivity)
-Sound with no support to subwoofer frequencies, sound is poor with high range speakers, let’s imagine on stock speakers
- DAB radio (same apk running on Xtrons and same usb dongle) has a indecent sound quality and level+, they say that the issue is from producer of apk but on Xtrons runs very well with a high sound quality.
- Rear cam image quality near indecent level (in Russian forum 4PDA someone suggested to solder a 75Ohm resistance across ground and signal wire)
- Rear cam operating only after boot, if you set power off delay time of 10 minutes and restart the car after 11 minutes ,you need to wait to see on back like in 1990: stupid
- Sound bettering (a bit) with few workarounds, you need to root unit and install Viper4Android, Busy Box and set to permissive rights
- unable for adding on memory (SD or USB) to set as system memory (not available space...it returns) only to portable way. You cannot transfer any apks.
My car hasn’t canbus drive as no steering wheel buttons are, so no issue. Someone might become crazy as I read if you get or need volume keys on steering wheel.
My rating is very negative as unit:
Don’t buy, this unit has not more than speed, only.
When you buy this kind of unit you need listen music in 2017 quality standard and not in accordance to 1960 standard, you need to see on back when you start, what is the meaning of a car cam on board if you are obliged to see on back like your father did?, you need to know the station name you are listening and see text traffic messages not search radio station like Allieds did with Nazi’s armed forces in Normandy near 1944.
Avoid IMHO to throw money, keep your MTCD (fully supported with a real and great job i.g. from Malaysk)
I understand your frustration with the unit, since the issues you mention aren't minor bugs and they impact core-features. However, coming from an MTCD-unit and reading the forums until now, I know there's two sorts of Chinese units: fair and poor, none of them are great. I had all kinds of issues on my KGL-unit, with Tomtom and other apps not installing due to the firmware used, OBD-issues, sometimes very laggy in switching between packages and all sorts of other issues. Support by KGL was none-existant. So considering the list you mention, to me it seems the basic is fine and stable, which is a good starting point. The majority of issues could be resolved if the manufacturer is willing to put some effort into it.
Issues that could be dealt with rather easily are I presume:
- add RDS-information
- Equalizer (although I would like for it to be switched off completely, I have an external amp with DSP and would like to get the signal as clean as possible, an equaliser will just eat CPU-resources, so it's not helping in my particular case)
- DAB-compatibility
Probably more difficult to solve:
- Rear cam image quality, if it's indeed hardware-related. Has somebody been able to verify the impedance-mod?
- Rear cam availability. Besides increasing standby-time somebody suggested that it would be possible for Ownice to integrate some sort of additional layer to the firmware to have access to the cam much sooner.
I'm not sure about the "no support for subwoofer frequencies". If they haven't installed a sophisticated equalizer, I don't assume the unit has a high-pass filter, so then it must be related to the sound in general and possibly in conjunction with your speaker system. I'll hopefully receive my C500 later this week, so I can test this for myself.
In the meantime big thumbs up to Bob at Winlink for reaching out. Please don't let us down and show that Ownice / Winlink understand customer service and building customer relationships!
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Dear Customer,
thanks for your feedback, this is bob from winlink,
pls contact us to get support on our product.
Thanks very much.
Best regards
Bob Huang
Email: [email protected]
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Hi Bob,
How do you see posting effectively "take these issues offline before I will help you" as helpful to the end user or the development of your product? As a user who has experienced this kind of support, this is the worst level of response you could offer and potentially only drive potential customers to agree with the OP and look elsewhere.
Suggest try again and solve the problems in a transparent manner.
Totally agree! I really can't understand what exactly these guys mean when they say "RDS support"? There is clearly no RDS support! Radio is supposed to be THE MOST USED FEATURE of head units and this quality level is really insane. I don't know where is the problem - lack of RDS support in the radio chip, or maybe its just the app, that is not capable to render radio station labels and other data.
Another insane thing is the sound quality! C'mon, these head units are all about audio. Everything else is just a bonus over stock head units. No one wants to downgrade sound quality when they upgrade head unit.
Above two notes are not just about C500. I have experience with several Chinese brands, all sharing same INSANE issues. And I really can't figure out why.
How much did you pay?
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How much did you pay?
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How much you think costs the RDS support? Every dumb car stereo has it since at least 15 years. Furthermore, these guys claim they have RDS support. At least they shouldn't do that!
I would be very glad to pay extra $30 (BOM should be less actually) for some 400-500W quality audio. What we currently get is just some Chinese tablet in a 2din form-factor. This is not what market expects. At lest not me.
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Dear Customer,
thanks for your feedback, this is bob from winlink,
pls contact us to get support on our product.
Thanks very much.
Best regards
Bob Huang
Email: [email protected]
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Thanks for answer almost I don't like it.
Some points:
Lucky you aren't a US producer or seller: YOU CANNOT SALE GOODS WITH WRONG CAPABILITIES, if you declare RDS compliant , it means RDS not only AF, In US this means "class action" furthermore.
#1. Please advice that unit isn't RDS fully compliant otherwise re-write software to fit.
#2. Please advice that rear vision is not available on start up, same as above. It's the first HU with this ancient feature I find.
#3. I wrote three times, no answers. Check your mailbox found on home site.
#4. It Is very curious that firmware releases (up to V39) are adviced between users on 4PDA forum (Russia) or XDA, a decent producer will build a site with "Support"===> Support, Updates, Download, Firmware. This is done by any Western Producer or China Worldwide Producer (see Huawei, see Asus, see Blackvue, see any you wish), this is not serious It's not a money issue or cost as a Huawei smartphone doesn't cost the same of an iPhone or Samsung S7 Edge. It's nowaday political customer relationship, here. You are out, fired usually here.
#5. Bought a Xtrons HU that I know as capabilities are as standard way, I am waiting sending to install and remove C500 I will run it as stopper in my home entrance. I throw in bucket much $, it's life. No more Ownice/Winlink.
@Bob-Winlink For your convenience:
Contact Russian guys on Russian Forum 4PDA, they made a wide job to modify some of larger crazy features (see post 1 of thread), learn from them.
Maybe If Winlink will pay them or give them the source code, they are able to re-write all Unit not in insane way.
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How much you think costs the RDS support? Every dumb car stereo has it since at least 15 years. Furthermore, these guys claim they have RDS support. At least they shouldn't do that!
I would be very glad to pay extra $30 (BOM should be less actually) for some 400-500W quality audio. What we currently get is just some Chinese tablet in a 2din form-factor. This is not what market expects. At lest not me.
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That wasn't my question.
RDS is transmitting in 57 kHz range, probably their FM tuner (C500) can not handle 57 kHz frequency.
Its not software thing, it requires new hardware. So yes, it is stupid. I want RDS = i will not buy Ownice C500.
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I know your point - you get what you pay for. However I don't think C500 (or any other Android HU) could be categorized as a cheap piece of hardware. For that amount of money I would expect someone has put some thought and reason behind the product. These Chinese guys only know how to assemble. If you have dealt with Chinese, you should know all they care about is "quantity", not "quality". OK, that's fine, but for God's sake, some things are just unimaginary stupid. Fix them and you will sell more. Put some thought and reason!
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I know your point - you get what you pay for. However I don't think C500 (or any other Android HU) could be categorized as a cheap piece of hardware. For that amount of money I would expect someone has put some thought and reason behind the product. These Chinese guys only know how to assemble. If you have dealt with Chinese, you should know all they care about is "quantity", not "quality". OK, that's fine, but for God's sake, some things are just unimaginary stupid. Fix them and you will sell more. Put some thought and reason!
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That wasn't my point at all, but okay.
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That wasn't my point at all, but okay.
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OK, in this case I bring my apology. I'm curious what was your point?
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OK, in this case I bring my apology. I'm curious what was your point?
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My point was if you paid a small amount, you might have actually been sold a fake or a clone or something else?
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OK, in this case I bring my apology. I'm curious what was your point?
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My point was if you paid a small amount, you might have actually been sold a fake or a clone or something else?
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Updates? Anyone else having issues mentioned in this thread?
I think all the issues are still there on the quad cores, while the octa cores have solved most of this. I am happy, and I would buy another C500 Octa Core.
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I think all the issues are still there on the quad cores, while the octa cores have solved most of this. I am happy, and I would buy another C500 Octa Core.
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From reading the thread discussing this unit, these still appear to have flaws and QA issues.
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From reading the thread discussing this unit, these still appear to have flaws and QA issues.
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Don't they all?
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hello
I'm really debating between choosing the latest JOYING headunit (with the digital amplifier) and the PUMPKIN 7.1 android
does they have the external mic problem?
Is there any other recommended stable Chinese android head unit?
I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.
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I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.
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they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.
+1 for Pumpkin, I've had the RQ0278E for a few months now, it's nice but it has its quirks. The Android 6.0 update made it better. Btw, I can't seem to get my DAC to work with it properly
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they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.
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Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.
What do you say about the OWNICE C500 ? are they another reseller ?
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Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.
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I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE
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I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE
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Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.
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Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.
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The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.
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The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.
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I would not recommend an android unit for older parents that use an old simple nokia if the reasons are that a smart phone is too complicated. I believe they may have issues with the use of the unit and that could be a safety issue.
ATOTO Double DIN Android 6.0 is my choice
I am owning ATOTO Android 6.0 HU. When it comes to operation speed, ATOTO is the best. After PUMPKIN Android 7 released for 2 months, I checked a lot reviews about it. But I think that may slower than my ATOTO Android 6.0 system. So I will just keep Android 6.0
i want to buy unit that support video out (headrest monitors), i found 2 units that i think that is good and i dont know what to choose.
1. joying JY-UM135N2PX5 CPU: PX5 Octa core Cortex-A53 up to 1.5GHz
2. hizpo WJZ99GX - CPU: T8 2.0GHz (i think this is the model number)
most of the parameters are the same, exept the CPU
does anybody could recommend one of them or maybe another unit that i missed?
Yes, after long time research, I finally got ATOTO back with my 2003 Mazda Miata. So far so good. The screen responds faster than my wife's Joying. Good try！And it helped me save a lot money.
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No, ownice is a manufacturer, they use other hardware like the cpu from AutoChips.
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Can you recommend a head unit for my 2014 Kia Soul? It's double DIN.
What I'm hoping for is something that I can plug my phone into and it will show an Android interface, like what you'd find in newer cars that show you apps on the screen once you plug in. Sirius XM support is a plus.
I know there's a lot of crap on eBay so I'd like to avoid that and ask here instead what's worthwhile.
Thank.
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Can you recommend a head unit for my 2014 Kia Soul? It's double DIN.
What I'm hoping for is something that I can plug my phone into and it will show an Android interface, like what you'd find in newer cars that show you apps on the screen once you plug in. Sirius XM support is a plus.
I know there's a lot of crap on eBay so I'd like to avoid that and ask here instead what's worthwhile.
Thank.
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Hi if you want the best experience choose something with px6 4gb of ram, and dsp for better sound and 64gb storage.
It comes with Easyconnect preloaded which can mirror you android/iphone to the screen, but you can download the app.
You can use android auto and carplay both wired and wireless on this device as well. For android auto buy HeadUnit Reloaded app, which works wireless and wired but only android auto, for carplay you need to buy a dongle for 30 USD if only wired, or~75 USD if wireless carplay. The dongle also supports android auto but only wired.
I sent you a link in PM about a product which i would recommend. look around, but only on aliexpress, forget about ebay/amazon as they sell devices with much lower specs for a higher price mostly
Thanks. I actually saw that one on eBay. What if it's the spec? eBay gives a six-month return policy.
The link you sent is in Russian and they said that shipping will take like 5 months....lol
Do you want android auto or hacked Chinese android?
Whatever works. I just don't want to be left with something that may have been cheap but turns out to be poor quality. I don't mind spending money on something that that's worth it.
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Whatever works. I just don't want to be left with something that may have been cheap but turns out to be poor quality. I don't mind spending money on something that that's worth it.
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I think you might become frustrated with the Chinese knock off units, go with a branded Android Auto unit.
Suggest getting an understanding of what Android auto is if not already.
The wife has it in her Buick. You plug the phone into the cable and it gives you a screen with Android apps like you're interacting with your phone. That's what I'd like.
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I think you might become frustrated with the Chinese knock off units, go with a branded Android Auto unit.
Suggest getting an understanding of what Android auto is if not already.
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I think this one is looking good:
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_500ILXW650/Alpine-iLX-W650.html
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Thanks. I actually saw that one on eBay. What if it's the spec? eBay gives a six-month return policy.
The link you sent is in Russian and they said that shipping will take like 5 months....lol
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ok it was just a suggestion sometimes aliexpress language is in russianbc of 4pda froum, but my google translate does it job and i dont realize its originally in russian, sorry.
Anyways you should choose whatever you find suitable for you. I live in EU to us delivery is approx 6-12 days max. I have ordered already 2 of the chinese devices and they work without any issue. Of course you can go for kenwood or some branded stuff for more than double the price and bad display quality in terms of resolution. If you choose something from ali i would go for something with at least 4gb and px6 cpu
Hey there
I'm looking for a good Android head unit with really good specs (for e.g. QLED at least HD, best would he FullHD and a good chipset with a good amp, things like toslink and a fan to cool the unit would he nice) for a BMW pre facelift E46 - also for a MB CL203 pre facelift....
I'm just really confused by how many chipsets there are and which hardware specs are to look out for ..
I also don't know what Bluetooth codecs are used, you know, I also want to have good music without latency and with good quality - obviously we all want this
Maybe someone could help me out and tell me some things about all those head unit manufacturers like Dasaita, Junsun, Skyshadow and so on - I just don't know where start to filter the bad from the good units, I know one thing or two about android, but never bought an Android head unit before - now is the day
For example:. I found something like this here - BT6 or TT6 here on AliExpress (seems nice to me)
Is this overkill? : The 2k model on AliExpress which I found
Is it any good? For what should I look out for? Maybe there are some threads here on xda which are good to read to get some Infos, maybe someone could provide me those?
Also, I don't know anything about the specs of MTCD, MTCB and FYT, I don't have any Infos about them - but there are sperate xda developer forums for them...
Thank you very much in advance
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Thank you very much, you just confirmed my thoughts, that this chipset would be the best of all those out there for Head Units - but I have also seen a Qualcomm Version, but have never compared them.
You see, I still don't know what FYT means and I just vaguely know, that MCU Version is the base system on which a head unit is based on?
I am not asking for full service, I'm just looking for example for tutorials - I would to write some tutorials if I gain more and more knowledge, would help other newbies like me. Also it could be just about that someone else is buying or bought a head unit for those cars I've mentioned - sometimes it just happens by chance...
But thank you anyway, you gave me the right Infos and tips for what I have to look for.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
I think that I have to write with some of those sellers to have a selection from which I could chose.
Are there some amplifiers, which should be avoided or which are good and recommended? Are there any details for which I should look out, which could be a good trap for newbies like me?
Where I can get MCU Version information? (I know, you can look it up in the 'about' screen on Android, but I'm still not quite sure what it represents) so basically if someone has a for e.g. Dasaita and someone else have a Skyshadow, they could use the same software, if MCU Version would he the same?
Thank you very much
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
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Not by liking must choose what your car tells you, choose what is compatible with car and most up to date device
Start by searching for units compatible with your car.Then narrow the selection by CPU (8 core), RAM (6 or 8 GB) and screen.
When you are down to a handful, look at seller reputation and number of units sold for your config.
Also, check shipping terms and always ask if they ship from regional warehouse.
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
Ubuntu_Man said:
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
m00n61 said:
FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
Do you know, if there is a double DIN unit which has one knob for the volume? The only one I've found has only "High definition" resolution, there is no option for a 2k display - it's this one: Head unit with fake android 11 because of false API but looks nice and has some features - especially the BT6 and TT6 models...
I would love to have a BT6 with a 2k display, but I think that this only a dream. There just simply none available with a volume knob and a 2k display, otherwise it would be just perfect.
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
Anton TNT said:
If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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I bought this device ... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.59.21ef1802Q3dkF7
SPECS: read and enjoy...
UNIT AINAVI "H5"
Preset Station: FM
Built-in DVD Player: NO
Built-in CD player: NO
Chipset: Qualcomm 8953
Processor Speed: 1.8GHz
Processor Type: QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON ARM CORTEX 8 core UNISOC
Is touch screen: YES
Built-in Screen: YES
TF/Micro SD Slot: 2
Din: Double Din
RAM: 2G-6G
Special Feature: Wifi Function,Support Steering Wheel Control online,Support 3G Network,Support 4G Network,Support Can-Bus, Updating online
Operating System: Android 10.0 OS
Out Power: 4*50w
Voltage: 12V
Material Type: Glass
Item Weight: 1.8kg
Item Size: 9 Inch
Max External Memory: 128G
ROM: 128G
Special Features: Built-in GPS,MP3 Players,Voice Control,DSP,Carplay,Android Auto,Reversing Input,Split Screen
Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG
OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese (Traditional),Albanian,Arabic,Azeri,Irish,Estonian,Belarusian,Bulgarian,Icelandic,Polish,PERSIAN,Boolean text (Dutch South Africa),Danish,German,Russian,French,Filipino,Finnish,Georgian,Haitian Creole,Korean,Dutch,Galicia,Catalan,Czech,Croatian,Latin,Latvian,Lithuanian,Romanian,Maltese,Malay,Macedonian,Norwegian,Portuguese,Japanese,Swedish,Serbian,Slovak,Slovenian,Swahili,Thai,Turkish,Welsh,Ukrainian,Hebrew,Greek,Spain's Basque,Spanish,Hungarian,Armenian,Italian,Yiddish,Hindi,Urdu India,Indonesia,English,Vietnamese
Resolution: 1280*720
Display Size: 9"
Brand Name: Ainavi
Origin: Mainland China
For Vehicle Brands/Model: PEUGEOT
Peugeot Model: 308
308-Year: 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014
Certification: CE
Carplay: Built-in wired&wireless Carplay
Android Auto: Support Android Auto
Radio: Support FM/AM/RDS
Network: Support 3G/4G Network
Radio IC: SI47925
Amplifier IC: ST7850
GPS: Built-in GPS
Special Feature 1: Bluetooth
Special Feature 2: Built-In Speaker/Microphone
Special Feature 3: Support Steering Wheel Control
BIG BIG + is UNIT SUPPORT by seller and technicians
del_piero3 said:
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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Hi there,
thanks for all the suggestion, indeed a Qualcomm processor if available is a huge plus compare to anything else. I will check out what's available and will report what i found. Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
Edit : Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
Edit2 :
I found this one, looks really great with volume knobs as you requested @Ubuntu_Man , however the plastic looks a bit cheap, but maybe it is an impression :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001774883334.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000017521648402%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21409.19%21245.51%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000017521648402%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=avv30AqHJaPb
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Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
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Yes , store is called AINAVI and sellers are always helpfull. + for them
del_piero3 said:
Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
Anton TNT said:
Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
Anton TNT said:
First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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Compatibility about what? The function in the head-unit or the physical fit ? The physical fit, on E46 there was no difference from the first to the second phase, all unit that are made for E46 should go in the head-unit location without any issue. I remember the first generation, the units were longer and sometimes it was tricky to get all the rear cables sorted correctly so the unit would enter the dashboard correctly, but now i see that the units are shorter so it shouldn't be an issue. About the software, i hope with the canbus that all the functions are decoded correctly form the bus, unless there is some bugs. And last but not least, about the OEM installation in place, this is up to us to check, mine have the OEM navigation with the BM54 in the trunk, so i know that i have to take the long cable to connect the unit in the one in the trunk, and that is some work to be done Unless i am missing something ?
the only one that worries me a bit is the screen resolution. I am wondering if such big screen with 1280x720 is enough ?