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Hey everyone.
Im just thinking, surley its possible to create a pseudo 3d object on our diamond usuing the gsensor.
Basically, generate a cube shape on screen.
then when we tilt the device to the side, morph the cube to the side, same for up and down.
With pseudo 3d you need to be careful of viewing angle for it to work, but if we work this like we are holding the phone in front of us then we should be ok for someone to at least start a proof of concept?
Closest thing i saw was the diamond cubes app, that should be a good start for someone drawing the cubes, all that would need doing is morph the cube on tilt.
Im just a thinker, no a do'er lol if anyone could take this up im sure people would love it.
That sounds really great. What also would be nice, to be able to scroll through TF3D using tilt motions. Maybe with vibration feedback.
Somebody already did that for the Iphone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnhFRr7DBGg
3D plane
Here is a very rough and basic application that reacts to the movements of your diamond: Plane Sensor
It is not yet fully 3D, but the plane can be seen from different angles. Try turning your Diamond in (landscape) different directions.
It is also movement based in the sense that the sound will only be there if a movement is detected.
I think I can easily create a cube that would react to the movements. Let me have a try, could take a few days, because I have a queue of ideas to implement now
The one on the iphone is not only a gen sensor, note that the character will turn while the iphone is turning.
If a device has a digital compass this will be a piece of cake but while it hasn't, I think the only method is to detect the "slightly angle" change of the device while turning. For example, assume the device is place on a table of 5 degree X-direction, when the device is turned for 180 degree, the angle will changed to -5 degree X-direction, and the character will follow to have a 180 degree turn --- which is a simply sin cos calcutation.
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Somebody already did that for the Iphone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnhFRr7DBGg
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Thats fake tho. Theres another thread about this somewhere, its not real.
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Thats fake tho. Theres another thread about this somewhere, its not real.
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why do you think it is fake?
in direct3d you specify 3 planes, X, Y, and Z
you can animate anything into it an you can turn any of the axes
only the visible stuff is calculated and displayed
i think it's real, i think these axes are turned through the accelerometer
no?
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why do you think it is fake?
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Because it is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420703
http://gizmodo.com/5041304/ihologram-3d-iphone-app-was-just-for-show-not-peek-into-alternate-world
Yeah that iphone dude did it as an idea to inspire developers.
So... back to the bog standard proof of concept cube idea, anyone thinking of taking up the challenge?
Hi All
My wife's recently got a Hero but she's found a problem with her long nails making typing difficult (capacitive screens don't work with fingernails!)
I've bought a couple of different types of iPhone stylus' but, though they do work, you have to really press quite [scarily] hard to make them register.
Can anyone recommend a stylus that works smoothly and without too much pressure?
Thanks!
The Pogo ones seem to be the most common iPhone ones, have you tried one of them?
Not yet - will seek one out. Thanks!
Did a quick search on Ebay - Item number: 390096569342 free postage too
Anybody have any joy resolving this?
Not yet. I was going to try a Pogo stylus but then found a review that suggests that it may be no different than the other stylus' I've bought. I can actually believe this because I've now managed to test the stylus' I've bought on an actual iPhone and they work far, far better than on the Hero
...not sure where to go from here.
It seems that HTC has lodged a stylus patent specifically for capacitive screens
http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-patents-stylus-for-capacitive-touch-screene.html
Thanks for the update. there has to be a lo-tech fix for this though. I'm going to have a think & a Google search & I'll let you know what I turn up
I found this but I'm not sure I like the idea of metal on glass
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/06/diy_iphone_stylus.html
Update: Metal actually works on the screen!
Update: got this now http://www.flickr.com/photos/antisynoptique/3225070344/in/photostream/ my mind is thinking hard. JTHM what do the ends of your stylus' look like?
There's no helping some people.
Have you tried this?
+1 lol
topjolly
You'll be sorry when I make my own lo-tech stylus! I'll show you.
I'LL SHOW YOU ALL!
Sorry,
Sometimes I get a bit carried away, I just think that there is a better way & telling my better half to trim her nails (although it is a good idea) wont really fly
I always wait till my Japanese friends did something wrong and then ask them for Yubitsume. Works like a real finger
i was going to post a picture of a chopped off finger to be a smartass so i did a google image search...
now im mentally scarred for life :/
The best stylus I have ever used is the papermate flexgrip elite M. They come in different colors and double as a pen which is what they really are. I recommend highly. I change color with the outfit I'm wearing. I'm in IT Networking so I always keep one in my shirt pocket. My job gives them out. Once you start using them you wont be able to go back to a regular stylus. I can't. You want to see it with the cap on the pen side, not the clip side. I use the small stylus side.
Discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gddbl/google_cardboard_366_free_shipping_from_tinydeal/
Buy: http://www.tinydeal.com/diy-google-...es-for-iphone-samsung-cellphone-p-135220.html
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxAj2lyX4oU
Working:
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Update: According to this site, 'magnetic input' does not work with original Moto G:
http://gweb-cardboard.appspot.com/#compatibility
Update #2: Should work with Moto G LTE since it has an actual Gyroscope.
Update #3: I've ordered one to experiment; since it's cheap and it cannot be absolutely verified it will not work with Moto G's hardware. For example, the issues might only be with the official Cardboard app (and alternative apps are fine), or a custom ROM might enable it to work correctly.
interesting... please report if it works on an original moto g (no lte)
I will be testing with an original Moto G (XT1032), but it could be a few weeks before the headset arrives. Order still not even dispatched according to the website.
UPDATE: I've just read existing stock sold out and there won't be more until 29th September. I might not get the item now until mid/late October / early November.
ordered it 2 weeks ago. today I got this:
Thank you for shopping DIY Google Cardboard VR 3D Glasses EPATH-334753 on TinyDeal.com.
We experienced an unusually large number of orders. Now the mass production has been finished and the items have arrived in the warehouse ahead of schedule. All orders are processed and shipped by order date and order number without a stop.
We really appreciate your business. Please be patient for a little bit more. Thank you so much for your support and understanding.
Yours Sincerely,
TinyDeal Support Team
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Order Status: Shipped
If using the magnet proves impossible with Moto G (1st Gen) - there is an alternative control option (other than just using your finger):
According to the Google cardboard official website, the magnet is used for clicking inside of demos. When you pull and release the ring, your phone's magnetometer detects changes in the magnetic field. Not all phones will be able to detect magnet pulls.
You can use Cardboard without the magnet by sticking copper tape along the side of the viewer and having it come into contact with the phone screen. When you tap twice on the copper tape with your finger, the phone will react as if it had detected a magnet pull.[Source]
If you want to make things a bit smoother, you can add a copper strip to the side, tape one end to your phone's screen and close it up - a double-tap on the strip will register as a screen-tap.[Source]
Although the [headset] works with any modern Android phone, it was designed for the Nexus 5. Many people reported problems with the magnetic sensor. That's because it's not in the same place on all phones. Having a slightly unusual phone, I ended up using a strip of cardboard with aluminum foil tape to do the same job.[Source]
i received my google cardboard today from a chinese supplier on aliexpress. assembled it and used it a little.
im using Moto G 2013 no lte version
my mini review
1. the magnet does not work, so the google cardboard apps are pretty much useless. but you can poke the display with your finger through the nose hole to activate the app.
2. again, the cardboard apps are rendered useless with the lack of gyroscope for linear motion sensing. so head tracking are out of the scope. the only apps that work pretty well without the gyro are rollercoaster vr with some degree of head tracking using accelerometer.
3. playing "3D side by side(sbs) video" on youtube is pleasant for me. its like having a big tv. the 3d effect turn out to be like the one you experience in a cinema with black&clear 3d glass.
4. for someone who are not used to wear any glass, like me. having to watch anything through a lens is a bit headache inducing experience. be warned.
5. 720p nature of our display is not forgiving when paired with the cardboard's lens. i can start seeing individual pixels, and even subpixel(rgb) if i focus enough on one spot.
anyway, i am pretty sure if you got a better spec'ed phone. the experience will be light years away from what i experienced just now.
@urra901109, can I just clarify what ROM you did your tests on? From my experience the Motorola Stock ROM does not necessarily indicate what is possible with the hardware. I won't be satisfied until tests are done with pure CyanogenMod and/or CarbonROM.
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@urra901109, can I just clarify what ROM you did your tests on? From my experience the Motorola Stock ROM does not necessarily indicate what is possible with the hardware. I won't be satisfied until tests are done with pure CyanogenMod and/or CarbonROM.
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i used the stock ROM.. but i think it will be pretty much the same across all ROM since most of what i talked is regarding hardware limitation(magnet sensor, and gyroscope) on the phone itself. i did enjoy it a for while with the 3d videos. but, later a headache caught me
ps: to overcome the gyroscope absence in this phone, i did connect it to xbox360 controller with the hope i can use right analog stick to pan left and right but no success on that, none of the VR apps i downloaded support the right analog stick. only the left analog is working.
Miracast is broken in stock ROM and works fine in CM / CarbonROM. Motorola have deliberately limited functionality in that case and who knows in what other instances.
I found it fairly poor with the Moto G. As reported, not only does the magnetic trigger not work, but the Moto G accelerometers don't work to control movement. The Google Cardboard demo app is fairly useless without that. Also the optics are fairly bad for the 4.5" screen of the Moto G. Probably a happier combo with the Nexus 5. Update: Yes, I tried it with a friend's Nexus 5, and it's much better. Do not buy the Cardboard kit unless you have a Nexus phone.
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I found it fairly poor with the Moto G. As reported, not only does the magnetic trigger not work, but the Moto G accelerometers don't work to control movement. The Google Cardboard demo app is fairly useless without that. Also the optics are fairly bad for the 4.5" screen of the Moto G. Probably a happier combo with the Nexus 5.
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i am quite dissapointed too with the absence of gyroscope in the first gen MOTO G, since head tracking is the whole idea about this VR thing. It is likely to cost a few cent more to add the sensor but they skipped on it. it is understandable though that they dont include it as the sensor are rarely used. but yesterday i had an idea about external usb gyro sensor. any one know if such a thing exists? may be we can use it without buying a new phone.
P/s:
i used galaxy note 3 with the google cardboard yesterday. it is much more enjoyable.. the screen door effect is not very pronounced like there is with first gen moto G. but the cardboard need some modification to make it focus properly and a few more hole to make it fit the Note 3, otherwise the lid will continously pressed on the volume button and power button
I guess I don't understand why they can't use the accelerometers in place of a dedicated gyroscopic sensor. In theory a 3-axis accelerometer should be able to do the exact same job, since it is impossible to move in any direction, including rotation, without causing an acceleration in one or more of the 3 axes.
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I guess I don't understand why they can't use the accelerometers in place of a dedicated gyroscopic sensor. In theory a 3-axis accelerometer should be able to do the exact same job, since it is impossible to move in any direction, including rotation, without causing an acceleration in one or more of the 3 axes.
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i dont get it either. on google streetview the simulated gyro does the job pretty flawlessly although a bit laggy but it is perfectly usable.
urra901109 said:
i dont get it either. on google streetview the simulated gyro does the job pretty flawlessly although a bit laggy but it is perfectly usable.
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That is so cool! I had no idea that was possible now. And yes, you're right, it does illustrate exactly that there is no need for a gyroscopic sensor to use Cardboard apps. I wish Google would fix that.
I also wish Google would fix the magnetic declination issue in Google Maps. Where I am in Vancouver, the compass points 16 degrees off true north, so anything using compass north (like Streetview or navigation) is off by 16 degrees from the real world view unless corrected. It's not like Maps doesn't know the compass error from your current location, so it should be trivial to do the correction.
It might not be too much work for a DEV to have an option 'Use Accelerometer instead of Gyroscopic sensor' in their app / game. It's worth at least asking.
so on a moto g xt1033 this would not work ? even tho Google Night sky app works ?
Ken JimmY said:
so on a moto g xt1033 this would not work ? even tho Google Night sky app works ?
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Correct.
Any update on the Moto G front?
Hi! Anyone still trying to make it work with the Moto G first gen?
I'm not a techie at all but I really really want to play with the Cardboard. And there is this cool kit for sale on Amazon now.
Its been a while since the last post so I'm hoping some clever person has come up with a way to make the accelerometer work.?
No cardboard navigation on Moto G(2013)
vocalico said:
interesting... please report if it works on an original moto g (no lte)
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I have the original moto g(2013) and cardboard navigation doesn't work on this model. As the gyroscope is missing. Only accelerometer doesn't help. And the magnet clicker is also not working may be because of weak magnetometer. Other features are working as expected.
hello friends I am planning to make a Google cardboard to use with my moto g can anybody tell me is moto g work with Google cardboard and how it performs?
Argg how did I miss this
I have already made it last week. waiting for lenses. I have installed the app it works as it should, only don't forget to attach that magnet and metal ring cause it's like a switch for it. It works w/o it also
share your experience bro I am very excited.I orderd the lenses waiting for delivery.that magnet switch work in moto g?some sites say that switch did not work in moto g because our sensor is placed in different place.
vikasb32 said:
share your experience bro I am very excited.I orderd the lenses waiting for delivery.that magnet switch work in moto g?some sites say that switch did not work in moto g because our sensor is placed in different place.
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I think your cardboard will be ready before mine, if I got the lenses after 27
then we have to place that switch at correct location. ok just leave it, it's not that important you can touch the screen select example and then place phone in cardboard.
btw from where you ordered the lenses ?, I have ordered from local lab instruments supplier
bhavin192 said:
I think your cardboard will be ready before mine, if I got the lenses after 27
then we have to place that switch at correct location. ok just leave it, it's not that important you can touch the screen select example and then place phone in cardboard.
btw from where you ordered the lenses ?, I have ordered from local lab instruments supplier
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is this lenses is good for google cardbopard
google cardboard lenses
vikasb32 said:
is this lenses is good for google cardbopard
google cardboard lenses
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Yup it's good but the price is more I think, first ask in opticals shop if it's possible for them to make it for you
bhavin192 said:
Yup it's good but the price is more I think, first ask in opticals shop if it's possible for them to make it for you
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just found this i thing i will buy 1.
cheap google cardboard
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just found this i thing i will buy 1.
cheap google cardboard
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Cool that's good
I have already made the box so I will complete my cardboard. I will Do It Myself
bhavin192 said:
Cool that's good
I have already made the box so I will complete my cardboard. I will Do It Myself
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when you complete your cardboard plz do share your experience.
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when you complete your cardboard plz do share your experience.
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Yup I will. May be next week. Here are the pics of my cardboard without lenses
Sent from my XT1068
I just got a kit, but the magnet is in a bad place
My kit arrived in the post today - put it together with a bit of trial end error and a few youtube videos...
Only trouble is, the magnet does nothing... Took the phone out and tried tapping the magnet here and there on the phone and it looks like the magnetic sensor is just by the volume control... Not ideal given how the box is designed! A very difficult place to cut away at to make the original design work.
Others have suggested using something capacitative (like copper tape wherever you get hold of that!) and taping one end to the screen so you can double tap which is apparently the same thing...
Good luck!
Do you have a shaky gyroscope like mine guys?? Is this normal? :crying:
You can see it here http: / / youtu.be/ mMzN6GIEtjs
Magnet does not work.
meadillas11 said:
Do you have a shaky gyroscope like mine guys?? Is this normal? :crying:
You can see it here http://youtu.be/ mMzN6GIEtjs
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Yup, It's same here
Finally I got lenses. (actually lenses with focal dist 50mm(+20 power) work perfectly)
After changing the position of magnet
It works perfectly,
only two problems
1. due to 720p display resolution you will notice pixels on screen.
2. The sharky Gyro of our phone crates problem sometimes
Otherwise it's really great experience
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Magnet does not work.
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Yup, It's same here
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Hello
I have got Moto G 2nd gen and the magnet does not work,
Can i ask, how and where did you postion it? could you please share a pic?
Thank You
Krisshp said:
Hello
I have got Moto G 2nd gen and the magnet does not work,
Can i ask, how and where did you postion it? could you please share a pic?
Thank You
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Posting image is not possible for me at least till next week, I'm away from home.
you can place a little magnet at the bottom right side of phone, that's the location where the sensor is
Hey everyone! Do you think the G would work with any of the readymade cardboards you can find on Amazon, like "Andoer" or "I am cardboard?" Any luck with the magnetic sensor and the shaky gyro?
Thanks in advance!
ygtenos said:
Hey everyone! Do you think the G would work with any of the readymade cardboards you can find on Amazon, like "Andoer" or "I am cardboard?" Any luck with the magnetic sensor and the shaky gyro?
Thanks in advance!
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IMO the shaky gyro would be as it is until bosch or motorola releases a new sensor driver that fixes it. Is not that diffucult, just need to "smooth" the raw values. (some apps use this method internally)
The magnet halfway down the screen at the bottom of the volume control works for me. To find the exact spot, just move a fridge magnet over the screen until it blanks out. The hall effect sensor is in the phone so you can glue a magnet into your phone case to automatically close the screen and save your battery.
By taking a more powerful magnet and swinging it at the back of the phone, you can switch/'select' in Cardboard.
But I have modified a plastic version of cardboard from tinydeal which is about $13 (no magnets, but big 1.25" clear lenses) and taping a strong magnet on the inside top, and a ring magnet (both magnets come from old cheap $1 earphones, the strong one comes from large over the head, the ring magnets from others.) The weaker ring magnet is kept in place by being attracted to the strong magnet taped inside.
If you look at how the cardboard magnets work for the Google Nexus 5 that cardboard was designed for, you can figure out that you would have to put the strong magnet further from the phone.
One problem is that the bank of suction cups in the tinydeal gradually slip, so I also put a ledge for the Moto G2 to rest upon, and used 5 minute epoxy to attach it. I have attached a parts pic. The ledge is cut out from a $1 store dual dvd case.
Works a treat with the Paul McCartney concert in the stadium, use Bluetooth stereo headphones to look around the stadium and the sound moves as you turn your head.
Anybody successfully got this device working with Google cardboard? Love to try it, but the replica cardboards seem to fit bigger devices. I like to know if it will fit the z3 compact.
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Anybody successfully got this device working with Google cardboard? Love to try it, but the replica cardboards seem to fit bigger devices. I like to know if it will fit the z3 compact.
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z3 compact is way to small. best for use with devices 5-5.5 inches
Couldn't resist trying. It works. Sadly the magnetic switch is on the wrong side. Needs some work. Virtual reality on the z3 compact! Awesome combination of the high quality camera, Google camera photo sphere and vr cardboard. You can jump in the picture and look around. Really fun and decent image quality.
Ordered a plastic headset with straps on Amazon because the cardboard won't last long.
It's not bad with this phone, but it's much better with a 5" phone and a 1080p screen. Maybe if you modified cardboard to be smaller, but with the stock plans you get black bars on the side (and the Sony logo) and the pixels are much more noticeable.
I'd give it a shot if it's the only device you have, but if you can use something like a Nexus 5 (I borrowed my friend's) it's much better.
It's not quite an Oculus Rift, but it's still really cool.
It's a pity that the magnetic sensor is near the "bottom" of the phone. I've tried placing the phone rotated 90 degrees to the right (instead of left), but sadly, the Google Cardboard app only supports landscape rotation in one direction, towards the left.
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It's a pity that the magnetic sensor is near the "bottom" of the phone. I've tried placing the phone rotated 90 degrees to the right (instead of left), but sadly, the Google Cardboard app only supports landscape rotation in one direction, towards the left.
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You can use your fingers, Bluetooth controller or move the magnet to the other side. Not ideal, but it works.
But if the z3c is your only phone is there a way to make the magnatic switch work (not just hold it on the other side but a permanent option) and do you really see the sony logo and black bars?
In short is my question can I use my z3c for cardboard and that it works 100% without any compromises?
And if I need to adjust something what do I need to do? Or buy?
I've used it, and it works great.
No, it's not a 5" phone but I've used a Z3 full fat with Cardboard too and the difference isn't much. I've also tried other devices and they have issues with the magnet too. Apparently the magnet provided just isn't strong enough. You can get around this by touching the screen (yes, that's awkward) to select menus with the Google demos, and in some cases, pairing your phone with a PS4 Dualshock 4 controller.
Don't let the fact that the Compact is smaller put you off trying it. It's a great way to try VR, with all the everyday benefits of still having a smaller phone in your pocket.
There are indeed ways to use Bluetooth controllers as an alternative for the magnet.
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Ordered a plastic headset with straps on Amazon because the cardboard won't last long.
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Which one did you buy? I've seen a lot of different variations of cardboard, some even for smaller phones like 4.5" - 5".
The plastic one, was a misbuy. Turned out to be 6"..
Did try a paper 4,5" cardboard on eBay wich fits fine.
I ordered a generic "cardboard" with no magnetic switch. It worked okay. I had to position the z3c half an inch further away from the lenses for the proper focus, and I had to hold it in place with my hand.
It only cost me $1.99, free shipping, so I just considered it a fun novelty.
Question. What kind of bluetooth controller would work for this?
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I ordered a generic "cardboard" with no magnetic switch. It worked okay. I had to position the z3c half an inch further away from the lenses for the proper focus, and I had to hold it in place with my hand.
It only cost me $1.99, free shipping, so I just considered it a fun novelty.
Question. What kind of bluetooth controller would work for this?
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I can confirm a DualShock 4 works if you own a PS4!
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I can confirm a DualShock 4 works if you own a PS4!
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The DualShock 4 can be used to simulate screen touches in Google Cardboard apps? I'll give it a try.
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The DualShock 4 can be used to simulate screen touches in Google Cardboard apps? I'll give it a try.
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It would be great if it could, but that's not quite what I meant. I meant that the DS4 pairs with the Z3C to be used with Google Cardboard. Several demos I've tried allowed me to move around in virtual space using the DS4 as a controller. I can't comment on actual screen touches with the trackpad, although that would be a very nice side effect if also true.
Just bought a cheap $2 Google Cardboard off eBay and am awaiting shipment, but I just wanted to point out that Dual Shock 3 controller can be paired with the Z3C as well and works great!
Just wanted to report that Cardboard works perfectly with the Z3C. I guess this is the first time I've run into an issue with the Z3C's low PPI as it's very noticeable when viewing through Cardboard, but that's a very specific use and I wouldn't use my daily phone as a VR handset anyway. Otherwise, everything else works as it should and was really cool!
I fixed the magnetic button issue by rotating the phone or taking the button out and putting it on the other side of Cardboard.
Works fine after a minor mod.
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I have a pretty thick bumper-case for my Z3c (since I have a history of losing phones to stone-floors) and it works just fine. There is some noticeable pixelation but not to bad. As some other people have noted the magnet-button does not seem to work. I read this post a few days ago and I made a somewhat crude work-around using some aluminium foil. If it is of interest to some one else, here is my somewhat lengthy blogg-post about it: http ikmpltyh.blogspot.se/2015/07/google-cardbord-button-for-z3-compact.html
New users can't create hyper-links so you will have to cut-and paste...
i made a profile for my z3c u can download it here:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!ADXDN5npvcbfsYA&v=3&ithint=photo,png