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So, if your 2 year old is like mine, he's quite efficient at shattering your phone's screen. SO, I went online and found a replacement screen and set sbout installing it myself. I make no claim at any sort of electrical know-how... Damn it Jim, I'm a med student not an electrician. But I do enjoy my gadgets. Anyway, I went online and found some you-tube videos and successfully changed out the screen! Woo-Hoo! I used a hybrid of the two videos as one of them seemed a little too, much but it had a good rebuild sequence.
The first video has a good description of how to remove the screen (I didn't use the hair dryier and it worked just fine), and the second shows how to put it back. The second video should also be good to show how to replace other thinsg (camera, etc.).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUTPf8QyAVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhdz_Xa-Co
I hope this helps people out there make their own replacements a success!
May I ask how much did it cost you and how long did it took? Did you have to buy any special tools?
It required a small electronics set of screw drivers (phillips) and it came with a plastic pry tool that I used for everytyhing except taking the screws out. It also comes with a tiny star drive screwdriver that I held onto but didn't use. I purchased it onlie from someone that I thought was based in Cali, but it turns out that he's in China. So it took 2 to 3 weeks to get it to me. I paid 115 for it, but if this happens again (dear lord please no) I'll pay a little more for someone that I know is in the states. There's a discussion in the accessories forum that lists some sites that have replacement screens.
Looks like it is totally unrepairable, even by HTC
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+Teardown/13494/1
this simply will build even more admiration for the device
i want it even more now :laugh:
Also i think they have missed the point of simply removing the speaker cover to start the process
Simply put, it's crazy...
despite the score, the article is full of praise for the craftsmanship!
HTC has said over and over that they wanted to create a seamless product, and the absence of any exterior screws is a testament to that.
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Our diligent spudgering appears to have permanently mangled the plastic bezel surrounding the aluminum case. It's possible that prying at a snail's pace while applying heat could minimize this damage, but we're not too hopeful. This phone was not made with open-ability in mind.
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The motherboard of the HTC One is pretty much encapsulated within copper shielding. Two flat pieces of copper adorn each side of the motherboard.
Here's the thing about copper shielding. It dissipates heat and provides electrical grounding. However, copper shielding is a pain to deal with during reassembly—kind of like trying to straighten out aluminum foil once it's been crinkled.
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The HTC One's 1080P, 468 ppi resolution rivals today's HDTVs and the 10.6" Surface Pro, but in a 4.7" size.
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There is no respite for the weary—even the rear camera is coated in copper shielding.
This is the HTC UltraPixel camera, a f/2.0 aperture, 28 mm lens unit with a dedicated HTC ImageChip™ 2.
It is not surprising to hear HTC bragging about camera specs, as their apparent Siri counter-marketing is Zoe, your personal photo assistant.
Manufacturing such a small camera that can do so much is a hefty task, and a shortage of these units is a big reason why HTC has had to delay the official launch.
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The daughterboard remains, but there is still a mystery left unsolved.
No phone operates without antennas, and antennas don't transmit signals well through metal walls. Considering that this daughterboard is on the receiving end of the motherboard's antenna cables and sits directly under the plastic bezel at the top of the phone, we're thinking it has something to do with wireless signals.
See those three spring contacts along the top of the board? They meet the rear case in an area obscured by the plastic bezel. If we had to guess, that's where HTC put the antennas.
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HTC One Repairability Score: One out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair)
Very, very difficult (possibly impossible?) to open the device without damaging the rear case. This makes every component extremely difficult to replace.
The battery is buried beneath the motherboard and adhered to the midframe, hindering its replacement.
The display assembly cannot be replaced without removing the rear case—this will make the most common repair, a damaged screen, nearly impossible.
Copper shielding on many components is difficult to remove and replace.
Solid external construction improves durability.
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Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/28/ifixit-breaks-open-an-htc-one/
Slashgear: http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-teardown-proves-durability-a-top-priority-28275687/
yup still positive
If you were looking for the HTC One to be a device you were easily able to take apart for inner-bits replacement, you might not be all that pleased with the report appearing today. On the other hand, if you love it when iFixit gives a big shout out to the device you’re looking to buy for its immense durability, the HTC One might be the phone for you. It’s not going to be a device you’ll be popping open on accident, that’s for sure.
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With the release of the HTC One, the manufacturer has bet a whole lot on the hardware as a proving point in their history. With this release, the company known as HTC says that they’ve done the best they’re able at the moment – this is the HTC One, and it’s named that for a reason. According to iFixit, this device is just about the most difficult smartphone to tear apart they’ve come across – but that’s not all bad news for you if you’re a general consumer.
The HTC One does not have a removable battery, nor is it able to take a microSD card. It’s got a body that’s made from one solid block of machined aluminum with a lovely pane of reinforced glass up front. A collection of awesomely odd bits and pieces can be found in the teardown, including this fun selection:
• Elpida BA164B1PF 2 GB DDR2 RAM
• Samsung KLMBG4GE2A 32 GB NAND flash memory
• Synaptics S32028 chip
• Cable for display labeled with DATE: 2012.11.30
That last bit proves that there’ve been bits and pieces of this device ready to rock for several months now – the back casing of the device can be seen to carry the date 2013/02/15, indicating that some of the parts have been added as recently as the middle of February (for this unit, anyway.)
Have a peek at the timeline we’ve got below of fabulous HTC One bits and pieces, and don’t forget to check out our full HTC One review as well. This is a device that’s set to either be a skyrocket-ready spaceship to the moon for HTC, or one of the biggest disappointments for the company in their history – if it doesn’t sell, that is. Have a peek at our full run-down now!
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Considering its sleek, primarily aluminum construction we never thought the HTC One was going be easy to crack open.
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hamdir said:
If you really intend negativity from your post
i dont think you have succeeded, this simply will build even more admiration for the device
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Not at all, simply a statement of fact. If you send 'one' to HTC for a warranty repair it looks likely that you will get a new unit back.
packetlos said:
Not at all, simply a statement of fact. If you send 'one' to HTC for a warranty repair it looks likely that you will get a new unit back.
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yes jsut crazy but again
i feel they were too intimidated and simply failed to figure out how to open it
ie: speaker covers
hamdir said:
If you really intend negativity from your post
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The negativity is implied based on a one out of 10 repairability score. How much do you think it's going to cost to repair/replace a display out of warranty? Or replace a unibody damaged in a fall? Ifixit could give a crap about one manufacturer over another so they have no bias in their reporting. What they are reporting is that the One will be a very expensive phone to repair based on its design. No matter how much the following is true.
the article is full of praise for the craftsmanship!
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Meanwhile, what do you think the sides are made of based on this? It looks like some type of trim applied to the unibodyfor it to bend that way.
we already know the device can be opened from its speaker, so i dont know what were they smoking
and i didnt say iFixit is implying negativity, i was asking the poster if this is his intention, relax lol
have a look at the drop down test it will answer few questions
if iFixit is true and its not a fixable device, than HTC intend not to fix them at all and simply replace it
but like i said i think it has a way to open form the covers
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So really i dont know what to say? are you in full intentions to simply spoil the fun of HTC owners?
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Huh? Kind of shooting the messenger, no? Since the One's unibody was first shown off I've been curious about how it's held together because it's a very unsual design no matter who built it. Drop tests and tear downs give a lot of insight in to questions I'm sure I'm not alone in having. Sorry if the answer's aren't "fun" and I have nothing to do with the outcome of any tests the One or any other device are subjected to. I'd be just as shocked if another brand's device had a repairibility score of "1." And as I said in another thread, devices get the forum's they deserve. If once in people's hands the One is a "happy" device that's what the forum will reflect. After a year of sticking your fingers in the holes in the dyke that was the One X forum you should know that by now.
And "aluminum" as a material isn't what determines repairibility it's engineering and design focused on facilitating it to keep repair costs down. Here's how the "other" aluminum phone did.
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If once in people's hands the One is a "happy" device that's what the forum will reflect. After a year of sticking your fingers in the holes in the dyke that was the One X forum you should know that by now.]
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One X owners are happy, go ask in their thread
the one x been flying and great device every since the software issues were fixed with the 2.17 update and defects cleared TWO MONTHS after release
you are in fact extremely patronizing and insulting
comparing to the iPhone is useless if the device like claimed by iFixit was not intended to be repaired!
hamdir, do u have any idea how to remove the speaker covers? ifixit looked like they butchered the phone with an axe, there must be another way to have a simpler break down
BTW ifixit said it was all "A"s after the back was removed, meaning removing the backplate was the hardest part
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hamdir, do u have any idea how to remove the speaker covers? ifixit looked like they butchered the phone with an axe, there must be another way to have a simpler break down
BTW ifixit said it was all "A"s after the back was removed, meaning removing the backplate was the hardest part
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yes the speaker covers are currently falling out on their own in defected units and in drop test its flying easily, so really they didnt need to butcher it like this
they acted under the impression that the entire device is uni body and hence started with the screen, if you notice all the way through the tear down they never removed the speakers
its all hilarious really
Yea i noticed them saying the zero gap phone had a gap when they removed the screen. As far as I am aware the zero gap is to do with the back of the phone and the plastic surround after watching htc's video on how it's built.
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BarryH_GEG said:
The negativity is implied based on a one out of 10 repairability score. How much do you think it's going to cost to repair/replace a display out of warranty? Or replace a unibody damaged in a fall? Ifixit could give a crap about one manufacturer over another so they have no bias in their reporting. What they are reporting is that the One will be a very expensive phone to repair based on its design. No matter how much the following is true.
Meanwhile, what do you think the sides are made of based on this? It looks like some type of trim applied to the unibodyfor it to bend that way.
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The plastic sides look similar to pvc cladding without the "gel"? Coat, ie look at the endgrain of the cladding strip.
Chipworks didn't seem to have near as much trouble with their teardown.
http://www.chipworks.com/blog/recentteardowns/2013/03/28/inside-the-htc-one/
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Hamdir: Do you have the proper disassembly guide then? As it is, this will be impossible to take apart to replace the battery or screen.
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BTW ifixit said it was all "A"s after the back was removed, meaning removing the backplate was the hardest part
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If you look at the pictures for that quote, you will see that they are talking about the QC from the factory who had written all over the interior of the case. Your meaning, while probably true, isn't what they meant.
BarryH_GEG said:
The negativity is implied based on a one out of 10 repairability score. How much do you think it's going to cost to repair/replace a display out of warranty? Or replace a unibody damaged in a fall? Ifixit could give a crap about one manufacturer over another so they have no bias in their reporting. What they are reporting is that the One will be a very expensive phone to repair based on its design. No matter how much the following is true.
Meanwhile, what do you think the sides are made of based on this? It looks like some type of trim applied to the unibodyfor it to bend that way.
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I like how HTC has tried to make the One more sturdy for customers. However, I doubted how the production can make a large amount of aluminum body, and now I'm sure it's even harder with this kind of assembling. Not very good idea for production
Gotta think about this one
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I like how HTC has tried to make the One more sturdy for customers. However, I doubted how the production can make a large amount of aluminum body, and now I'm sure it's even harder with this kind of assembling. Not very good idea for production
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Chipworks didn't say anything about the level of difficulty with dissembling. Nothing I saw anyways. This puts a little doubt in my mind looking down the road a couple of years. In 2-3 years it will be time to replace the battery...then what? WE HAVE SOME GREAT LOCAL REPAIR GUYS, BUT WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO REPLACE THE BATTERY WITHOUT WRECKING THE PHONE? Good question huh? How much would a 2-3 year old HTC ONE be worth, if anyone were to consider buying a used ONE?
My current phone, an ATRIX 4G, now 3 years old, had a couple of problems last year. The volume rocker mechanism broke and had to be replaced. I'm also not on the original battery. I have 3 spare batteries just in case. Carrying around a small 10,000mah charger from Ebay
(for $24.95) is an option. But really if something goes wrong with the phone (out of warranty) you may just have to buy a new phone. This means that you cannot count on any trade in value on the phone. If you can live with that, OK. But you still need insurance in case there is a problem along the way.
Just food for thought guys.
This is great! This confirmed my speculation that HTC is just using a single modem for Asia, EU and all other variants of the HTC One! Thanks to the MDM9215M chipset it has!
What it means is
LTE:
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz
is only 1 single phone.
So yeah we could cross flash basebands to unlock certain bands. US carriers could purchase the HTC One from Europe then when S-Off is already available they could just flash a baseband of the US model then they should have LTE instantly. Or better yet it's already a world phone by default. Since they are using the same modem chipset with the likes of Xperia Z & ZL.
Lol, to me that only means "don't try it at home":good:
Hey everyone!
Longtime lurker/first time post here. I have had the very unfortunate experience of pulling my S4 out of my pocket to check the time only to have my heart and jaw drop at the sight of a broken screen. It seems to be the same problem that others have reported where the glass is fine but the touchscreen is cracked, starting on the right side directly at the power button.
I have NEVER dropped this phone. It has been handled with great care at all times. It was always in an Otterbox Defender series case. Nothing out of the ordinary has happened to it while in my pocket (bumping into something, etc) and there was never anything else in the pocket with it. I have really enjoyed this phone and was mindful of it at all times.
So... where do I go from here? I'm looking for some good advice before I take a next step in trying to get a replacement. I do not have insurance on the phone (yeah, I know), but the price each month plus the deductible for a refurbished phone didn't sound like a great deal to me since I'm able to take care of my things for the most part. If it was an accident, I'd bite the bullet and replace the screen myself or get a new phone but this either a design flaw or a manufacturing defect. Has anyone here had success through Sprint or Samsung in getting a replacement or repair? I'm rooted and running The Blu Kuban right now. Do I need to try to ODIN back to stock for warranty purposes before doing anything from here or is there a better option for me? The phone works but I can't see or operate the screen in anyway.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Google... 1st search result.
Are you a homeowner? Try your homeowner insurance. I added coverage for my phones, tablets, and laptops that cover all loses. I think it only added $15 a year to my cost and the deductible is only $25.00 on a replacement. Maybe your insurance may cover the cost of a replacement phone.
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Thanks for the useful reply Joe! How did I possibly forget to search for information on the subject before going through the trouble of making my first post on XDA despite being here for awhile?
Seriously... Read the thread. Its filled with disagreements as to what has been successful and turns into accusations of being too rough on the phone. I was asking if anyone here has successfully gotten their phone replaced and what to best method of going back to stock would be without being able to use the screen at all.
Cruise350 - Thanks alot for the suggestion man, but I'm not a homeowner.
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I know when I got my replacement for my evo 3d it wasnt refurbished it wasn brandnew still in the box and seals were not touch.Im hoping that the flaws in the screens are just because it was early in production.
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Cruise350 - Thanks alot for the suggestion man, but I'm not a homeowner.
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More and more insurance companies are offering tech insurance and it is very affordable. I don't carry Sprint's insurance either (bad experience many years ago) I generally just keep my newest 'old' phone as a replacement in the event my new phone gets broke or dies.
It pays to shop around (or google) in trying to find good ways to insure devices. I realize this doesn't help you in your current predicament but perhaps for future reference.
You might search youtube for similar experiences which might tell you how they were fixed or offer affordable solutions for replacement.
Good luck.
Search YouTube for complete galaxy s4 teardown. A replacement screen and digitizer and frame is about $241. I've watched the 37 minute process on the video and feel it is way beyond my skill and patience. I don't know what else to tell you other than insurance might have made this easier and more affordable. Depending on where you go, who you deal with, who you talk to, this process can be expensive and full of hassle. Might I suggest, when you do get a replacement, that you invest in a tempered glass screen protector. There are topics in the accessory section on this topic. It will help protect your device better than simple screen film.
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The one common theme in all these broken amoled screens under the glass are pocket users. Not one of these posts have come from someone that uses a case with holster. The gorilla glass on these phones is very strong, but the screen underneath can flex while in your pocket. I know everyone says they don't abuse their phone, haven't bumped it in their pocket, don't carry anything else in their pocket, but something that is happening is flex. With the plastic back of these phones they will definitely flex while you sit, bend, walk, or whatever during your normal routine. The amoled screen probably has a limit to the amount of flex it can handle before it fails. I know, you didn't abuse your phone but calling it a manufacturers defect is just ridiculous. Suck it up, fix or replace your phone, and next time don't put it in your pocket.
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The one common theme in all these broken amoled screens under the glass are pocket users. Not one of these posts have come from someone that uses a case with holster. The gorilla glass on these phones is very strong, but the screen underneath can flex while in your pocket. I know everyone says they don't abuse their phone, haven't bumped it in their pocket, don't carry anything else in their pocket, but something that is happening is flex. With the plastic back of these phones they will definitely flex while you sit, bend, walk, or whatever during your normal routine. The amoled screen probably has a limit to the amount of flex it can handle before it fails. I know, you didn't abuse your phone but calling it a manufacturers defect is just ridiculous. Suck it up, fix or replace your phone, and next time don't put it in your pocket.
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Just to clear this up... I did say design flaw or manufacturers defect. I've had many phones over the last 15 years. I have never had one break in anyway except for my Samsung Epic 4g, which took a 2 story fall (while in my pocket lol) onto a very hard surface. All it did was crack the screen a bit but was still functional for the next year until my contract was renewed.
To say that I should expect a $650 dollar phone in an Otterbox case to completely break to the point of not being able to use it just by being in my pocket in normal everyday situations is RIDICULOUS.
Should consumers really expect this level of quality? Imagine if a salesperson told you this as you were thinking of buying a phone... "Now just to let you know, never keep this phone in your pocket and then sit or walk because it'll break."
If this phone breaks in peoples pockets and isn't intended to be there, then Samsung would've/should've provided holsters with the phone.
Straight from Samsung - "Offering a highly crafted design with a larger screen and improved battery life, the sleek and innovative Galaxy S4 is slimmer yet stronger, with less to hold yet more to see." Sounds like we should expect a strong, well made phone. Not a something that will break this easily. My phone looks exactly like 4 other pictures I have found of other user's broken screens... all at the exact same spot. I maintain that this is either a design flaw or manufacturer's defect. Yes, as you said - the gorilla glass is strong. I just wish they would of made the frame stronger. Then I'd still have a working phone.
Btw, I am an unabashed Samsung fanboy. TVs, last 3 phones, monitors, etc. I talked 4 different people into getting this phone after I had it. I think normally Samsung makes great products with a high level of quality but they made a mistake on this one. I'm no longer looking forward to the S5 that comes with the required fanny pack... well, not until they make this situation right.
Now... does anyone have any info on my question on returning to stock? Thanks!
This is a tough one. I'd suggest at least attempting to contact Samsungs warranty dept. Perhaps they can offer a better solution than sprint.
Back in the Treo days I actually sent in a phone or two to palm, and got refurbished replacements.
The tough part is your defect.
I provide warranty work for appliances, manufacturers know or believe they know how and why something has failed. Glass stove tops are a prime example. Whirlpool will only cover heat fractures. I have to submit pictures of the top and, 99% of the time, the claim is rejected. Mostly because these tops break from impact or improper installation.
Point being, if you send your phone to Samsung, they may not cover it. But if you're optimistic and patient a few minutes on the phone may yield positive results.
http://m.samsung.com/us/support/service/warranty/SGH-T959HABTMB
Definitely unroot and return to stock.
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Just to clear this up... I did say design flaw or manufacturers defect. I've had many phones over the last 15 years. I have never had one break in anyway except for my Samsung Epic 4g, which took a 2 story fall (while in my pocket lol) onto a very hard surface. All it did was crack the screen a bit but was still functional for the next year until my contract was renewed.
To say that I should expect a $650 dollar phone in an Otterbox case to completely break to the point of not being able to use it just by being in my pocket in normal everyday situations is RIDICULOUS.
Should consumers really expect this level of quality? Imagine if a salesperson told you this as you were thinking of buying a phone... "Now just to let you know, never keep this phone in your pocket and then sit or walk because it'll break."
If this phone breaks in peoples pockets and isn't intended to be there, then Samsung would've/should've provided holsters with the phone.
Straight from Samsung - "Offering a highly crafted design with a larger screen and improved battery life, the sleek and innovative Galaxy S4 is slimmer yet stronger, with less to hold yet more to see." Sounds like we should expect a strong, well made phone. Not a something that will break this easily. My phone looks exactly like 4 other pictures I have found of other user's broken screens... all at the exact same spot. I maintain that this is either a design flaw or manufacturer's defect. Yes, as you said - the gorilla glass is strong. I just wish they would of made the frame stronger. Then I'd still have a working phone.
Btw, I am an unabashed Samsung fanboy. TVs, last 3 phones, monitors, etc. I talked 4 different people into getting this phone after I had it. I think normally Samsung makes great products with a high level of quality but they made a mistake on this one. I'm no longer looking forward to the S5 that comes with the required fanny pack... well, not until they make this situation right.
Now... does anyone have any info on my question on returning to stock? Thanks!
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***must bite tongue***
Thanks Biff. I think that's what I'm going to do.
Dave, remember to at least nibble your fingers as well next time buddy!
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Thanks Biff. I think that's what I'm going to do.
Dave, remember to at least nibble your fingers as well next time buddy!
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LOL ok, ok, nibbling fingers
The battery in my XT1575 finally gave out, so I ordered a new on on eBay. When I went to swap it out, I found that the original had a slight curve that helped it form properly to the case. The new battery is perfectly flat. All the markings are identical. I'm afraid to try to bend the battery to take form because I don't want it to blow up in my face. Any experienced user have a clue what to do?
A J
Yes send it back and see if the seller has a curved one.
My flat replacement battery fit in the space.
Pretty sure it should be flat... If it's rounded maybe it's bulging.
It is rounded, I've already replaced the battery and I am going to have to do it again for the 2nd time because of eBay junk.
The original batteries are rounded along the length of the battery. You will have to round the flat battery to fit it in otherwise you risk damaging the LCD panel as the pressure will screw it up.
I have not been able to find a battery that is pre-rounded and the correct grams in weight. So far I've got cheated on 2 batteries weighing in at 10 grams less than the original battery and they both last less than the depleted original so that has created a situation for me. Every time you take the phone apart you risk messing it up and those little tiny plugs can't take a lot of wear and tear before they snap and break.
The batteries from eBay are clones and they weigh about 36 grams, the original batteries weigh in at 46 - 50 grams.
The clone batteries are good enough to get a phone working but as they say, battery life is everything when you are mobile, and it is a mobile phone after all.
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If anyone knows of a good 50 gram battery source please let me know.
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I just wanted to add a note, rounding the battery is done at your own risk as it is dangerous!
I wore heavy gloves and eye protection to make sure I didn't get burned if I managed to screw it up.
Easiest way to bend it is to wedge the battery between two heavy boards bend and turn around and bend the two edges. about 30 degrees, as I stated before you can't install a flat battery as it will eventually kill your LCD screen because of pressure in the wrong places.
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Clever knockoffs or ordinary knockoffs?
Just out of curiosity, did any of your "featherweight" batteries look like genuine Motorola parts from the front?
How did you know the battery was done?
I've been troubleshooting my phone turning off randomly. It turns off while in use (if I leave it alone, it stays on). It refuses to turn back on or acts like it has a low battery until I plug it in. Then it acts like it had battery all along and turns on.
Is this my battery? time for replacement?
I was on MM rooted unlocked bootloader. Just updated to Nougat today to troubleshoot. On Nougat stock and Nougat rooted, same issue. Shuts off randomly.
Notes from doing an install of new battery -
Jjust completed install of replacement battery
Kit that purchased from Amazon :
https://tinyurl.com/y9cvldya
This is not a job for the faint of heart ; it has nothing to do with the quality of the battery or tools provided. Recommend you watch this video first - https://tinyurl.com/yc2wk7m2 - if you are willing to do this. Directions were great in the video - I had an issue with power / volume not working - reviewed this site - https://tinyurl.com/ycympu6y - and figured out that I had not seated the one ribbon cable properly
Tools that came with the kit worked fine - I found I used the 4 torx to unscrew / 3 torx to put back -- just go slow. Also - the two white strips have no explanation - they are double sided to keep the back cover on once you are done. That was the only "tool" in the kit I wasn't really clear about.
Zero instructions / hints come the kit - refer to the YouTube video posted and the Ifixit information
Really early - but from a couple of days ; this new battery gives me performance like the phone was when new - battery I replaced was discharging to about 80% within first hour of unplugging from charger
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stevejohnson42 said:
Jjust completed install of replacement battery
Kit that purchased from Amazon :
https://tinyurl.com/y9cvldya
This is not a job for the faint of heart ; it has nothing to do with the quality of the battery or tools provided. Recommend you watch this video first - https://tinyurl.com/yc2wk7m2 - if you are willing to do this. Directions were great in the video - I had an issue with power / volume not working - reviewed this site - https://tinyurl.com/ycympu6y - and figured out that I had not seated the one ribbon cable properly
Tools that came with the kit worked fine - I found I used the 4 torx to unscrew / 3 torx to put back -- just go slow. Also - the two white strips have no explanation - they are double sided to keep the back cover on once you are done. That was the only "tool" in the kit I wasn't really clear about.
Zero instructions / hints come the kit - refer to the YouTube video posted and the Ifixit information
Really early - but from a couple of days ; this new battery gives me performance like the phone was when new - battery I replaced was discharging to about 80% within first hour of unplugging from charger
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Honestly, the procedure isn't too bad compared to other devices. If you care about your phone even a little bit though, don't buy those crappy knockoff batteries, as they're usually worse than a 3-year-old original battery. For the record, I keep it on my dresser as a monument to "why not to buy cheap batteries". It is currently twice as swollen as was pictured. If I had left it in my phone, it would have destroyed the device physically. I thought that because it was "curved," it'd be legit, but I was quite wrong.
For the record, the only remaining seller of genuine/OEM FX30 batteries for this phone is oem_liquidation. It's pricey, but well worth it. You couldn't even pay me to use one of those Amazon/ebay specials anymore. I've learned my lesson.
Bill720 said:
Honestly, the procedure isn't too bad compared to other devices. If you care about your phone even a little bit though, don't buy those crappy knockoff batteries, as they're usually worse than a 3-year-old original battery. For the record, I keep it on my dresser as a monument to "why not to buy cheap batteries". It is currently twice as swollen as was pictured. If I had left it in my phone, it would have destroyed the device physically. I thought that because it was "curved," it'd be legit, but I was quite wrong.
For the record, the only remaining seller of genuine/OEM FX30 batteries for this phone is oem_liquidation. It's pricey, but well worth it. You couldn't even pay me to use one of those Amazon/ebay specials anymore. I've learned my lesson.
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Thanks for the inputs - at this point I cannot really comment on the long term viability of the battery bought from Amazon -- basically have had it installed for about a week now.
My main objective was to get my thoughts posted -- this seems to be an unappreciated phone and not a lot out there. I tried to post the review on Amazon - but got rejected ; would assume because of the links I added to try and give someone some ideas of the resources that I found helpful.
The amount of glue really surprised me .. even though I had a bit of a warning from the video. I suspect it also has something to do with why it is listed as having some water resistance -- the way the glue was added would have provided a good seal for moisture incursion.
General commentary on the Pure Edition and repairs
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My main objective was to get my thoughts posted -- this seems to be an unappreciated phone and not a lot out there.
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I agree. It didn't have a lot of press to begin with, despite its epicness, and most of the phone snobs have moved on by now.
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I tried to post the review on Amazon - but got rejected ; would assume because of the links I added to try and give someone some ideas of the resources that I found helpful.
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That happened to me once before too (for a different item). Amazon lets me review most of my purchases, (the few that I do perform on that irritating website, as well as those of products that I didn't buy through their market) but does give me trouble every once in a while.
I'd wait a few months until you know if it's going to work or not before posting the review anyway.
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The amount of glue really surprised me .. even though I had a bit of a warning from the video. I suspect it also has something to do with why it is listed as having some water resistance -- the way the glue was added would have provided a good seal for moisture incursion.
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It is a bit annoying to service, but not nearly as bad as certain other devices. And if it contributes to water resistance, I don't mind too much. The real headache comes with repeated service due to having to replace a defective replacement battery. If I'd just gotten a good one right out of the starting gate, I could've probably kept the original adhesive and back cover.
Interestingly enough, the replacement back cover, while sized identically to the original, feels slightly different and attracts far more dust. It's almost like it's made out of a softer material somehow. The seller claimed it was OEM, but I'm not so sure. Either way, it works, so I'll probably leave it alone for right now.
At any rate, I hope the battery lasts long and that the phone serves you well. Congratulations on the successful repair.
I wish you the best for your battery lasting. I was lucky enough to get a good one and thus far it is going strong after nearly 7 months. I love this phone despite it having worse battery life when compared to some of its peers out there. Battery life is good enough for me.
Over the past two years I've done some sort of "surgery" on four XT1575s. Three were battery issues, one was the micro USB socket. While it feels weird to start a careful disassembly by ripping off a rubber back, the rest of the process was clear to see on any number of YouTube videos and fairly easy to do. My only caution -- at all times, as you separate any two pieces, check carefully to make sure you're not damaging the thin connector for the battery, the power, that sticky patterned copper thing, maybe something else. One tug too hard and you're dead in the water until the new part arrives.
My DD is an XT1575. So is my wife's. And my son's. And a close friend. I talked each of them into buying the phone and none of them regret it. I too am mystified that this excellently designed phone doesn't get more recognition.
Check out 'elecdude' on ebay, currently listing
Stock Battery
I've dealt w/ in the last 30 days - extremely GOOD communication, clarifications etc. both batt's I recieved (for different phone) were OEM original MFG date 2021 work excellent.
Since I've got 2 of these XT1575, am waiting to hear back on the mfg. date and whether the battery is CURVED - there's lots of reports of aftermarket battery being flat, causing faults on the screen.
virginwidow said:
Check out 'elecdude' on ebay, currently listing
Stock Battery
I've dealt w/ in the last 30 days - extremely GOOD communication, clarifications etc. both batt's I recieved (for different phone) were OEM original MFG date 2021 work excellent.
Since I've got 2 of these XT1575, am waiting to hear back on the mfg. date and whether the battery is CURVED - there's lots of reports of aftermarket battery being flat, causing faults on the screen.
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My guess is at one point the battery out gassed, inflated and that caused it to bend like that! The gases where vented out latter and it retained that shape. If so you came close to incurring major damage.
I can't tell for sure but the replacement seems thicker if so that won't fly.
Go with the OEM one only!
If you ever autopsied one you know what I mean. I call them bag batteries now! The only way it could be curved is to be bent after it was wound ie forced to bend.
You can see what appear to be stress areas on either end of the original. WTF?
I seriously doubt it's bend by design... that looks more like a failed Li.
*See if you can find some repair vids of it or at least tear down vids to confirm the cell is actually flat... as a bag battery can be.
Interesting observation... my 'body donor' (got on ebay like $25 for they didn't know to enlarge the screen to get the navigation buttons workin) may in fact have a bad board - but isn't doing too bad on batt....
If the "REAL Xt1575" (64mb) ever ships, would naturally consider replacing battery... it was new in 2017 (that's not new enough) before I go runnin' it as a DD.... THANK YOU for the input - I was seeing many reviews on Amazon for "flat" battery causing screen issues
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PS WHERE (please lord, where) is our Telegram channel? I've already killed an LG using outdated "Man-Pages" here on XDA
virginwidow said:
Interesting observation... my 'body donor' (got on ebay like $25 for they didn't know to enlarge the screen to get the navigation buttons workin) may in fact have a bad board - but isn't doing too bad on batt....
If the "REAL Xt1575" (64mb) ever ships, would naturally consider replacing battery... it was new in 2017 (that's not new enough) before I go runnin' it as a DD.... THANK YOU for the input - I was seeing many reviews on Amazon for "flat" battery causing screen issues
VW
PS WHERE (please lord, where) is our Telegram channel? I've already killed an LG using outdated "Man-Pages" here on XDA
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That's damn curious. It's always possible they pulled a "Sony" and did some creative post engineering during assembly. Check the actual space's physical dimensions.
Excessive pressure on the display can certainly damage it.
My Note 10+ recently had a battery fail and it was bulging the rear cover out. Didn't spot it because of the case as I obstantly and repeatedly charged it from 0 to 100% trying to get fast charging working
Erratic fast charging is a symptom of an Li failure so I learned.
I was fortunate not to have damaged the display.
So in your experience, avoid the upgraded batts - they'll not fit?
The dealer i found on ebay is definitely shipping OEM parts, and if I send a message am certain he'll respond with the mfr. date.
I use a cell shoppe here that's motorla certified, might simply go with what they provide they're not cheap but stand by their work.
Have reached the age hands shake too much for micro-surgury on delicate things
virginwidow said:
So in your experience, avoid the upgraded batts - they'll not fit?
The dealer i found on ebay is definitely shipping OEM parts, and if I send a message am certain he'll respond with the mfr. date.
I use a cell shoppe here that's motorla certified, might simply go with what they provide they're not cheap but stand by their work.
Have reached the age hands shake too much for micro-surgury on delicate things
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Go OEM.
Deprenyl stat. Protects the nigra substantia region of the brain.
Nicotine also has protective properties.
hi, if we started topic about battery replacement issues i will ask about my issue too, so few days ago i bought new battery for my moto x style that should be 3000mah but after few charges estimated capacity in accubattery is at around 2000mah, should i return this battery or should i try doing some calibration of it?
Well, i tried to replace the battery of this device because i was getting around 3 hours of SOT. Got a battery.
All fine, opened up the backcover, removed some scrws. Some of they were very tight and then got to the last one. Bottom right, near the battery connector.
Not sure if it was on purpose or not, but my T3 torx screwdriver couldnt budge it. The screw is destroyed now and i have no way to remove the backcover to replace the battery.
For a flagship, they used screws that can be deformed by a nailcutter. This is absolutely disgusting.
There is no way to remove the backcover without destroying it in the process.
Now i only wonder why they made the cover with 20+ screws. Was this on purpose to over any would be fixer?
Another laptop i owned from lenovo had a stuck screw for the cpu. So there was no way to put thermal cooling paste for it.
The screw in the lenovo laptop was also destroyed in the process.
On the otherhand, my samsung laptop is still going and its from 2011.
Let this be a warning. If they had used plastic for the screws, it would have been better because at least i wouldnt need mote expensive machinery to drill them.
Unfortunately, Motorola decided to use t4 (even t2) screws in some models, which might have been your case. I used a magnifying glass to make sure the screw driver fit perfectly before turning so it didn't strip them. Took about 2 hours with heavy patience and rewatching multiple YouTube how-to's from different view points. I actually broke the black plastic that covers the Qi charging coil but thankfully that isn't a crucial part.
I bend the frame and just the replaced the battery. Luckily nothing got damaged.
Gotta test now the new battery. If it works out, at least it will spare me 400+ euros for a new phone.
But seriously, the screws are ****. I removed some of them.
I am exceptinally lucky only one got stuck in the roght place so that i could bend the frame and replace it.
Advice foreveryone, becareful for the ribbon cables. Yhey are flimsy and can be damaged extremely easily.
This phone is worth the repair and time because there isnt much out there that really competes with its screensize and performance, and hope the battery repair can help this thing last a while longer. Maybe 1-2 years
Except for flagships, every midranger i have seen is inferior and you wont get a decent 6 inch phone for under $500.-
that's why I took it to the local shop to have a pro do the job, plenty of people have reported breaking things then putting it back together and the phone wont boot or stuff doesn't work
it looks easy on the video tutorials until you **** up [emoji4]
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@shadowcore; you are getting 3 hours of SOT and you decided to change the battery????. Your battery was still in decent condition, you should have waited until the battery would die randomly.
Guapo613 said:
@shadowcore; you are getting 3 hours of SOT and you decided to change the battery????. Your battery was still in decent condition, you should have waited until the battery would die randomly.
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Well, i bought the battery off of amazon and its not available to buy anymore.
And the phone was dying at 15%>
Now with the replaced battery, i am getting 5-6 hours of SOT.
Its basically a new phone.
Does anyone know the dimensions thread of the screw? I'd buy some with a different head. My chinese screwdriver is very bad and unusable and screw too.
Maybe M1.4 x 3mm?
Thanks.
I am sure 99% that the screws are M1.4 x 2mm.
I ordered this, hope it will be OK.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/180...015.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.25724c4diD05nE
Just my opinion but I felt it was worthwhile to pay $75 for a "professional" to swap mine out. They did not make the battery easy to replace, used crap screws, etc. The vast majority of folks would be better off going this route if its avail.
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Just my opinion but I felt it was worthwhile to pay $75 for a "professional" to swap mine out. They did not make the battery easy to replace, used crap screws, etc. The vast majority of folks would be better off going this route if its avail.
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m8 the battery is like 13-18 bucks with tools, you just need to follow typical precautions. If I had 75 bucks I would've sold it long ago and bought a used first gen pixel or essential phone
Ta3miyyasandwich said:
m8 the battery is like 13-18 bucks with tools, you just need to follow typical precautions. If I had 75 bucks I would've sold it long ago and bought a used first gen pixel or essential phone
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I know that I could have replaced the battery for a $20 bill. Could have. Could have also screwed it up. Very easily screwed it up. I'm not sure where you could buy a first gen pixel for $75 or less. If you can do that, I'd say you ought to do whatever you can to scrape up the money. As far as the Essential, that's for the birds ain't it?
EDIT: Yeah, the Essential was definitely for the birds. It's sales have been so slow and sluggish that the next model has been cancelled. Whether at the $699 original price or even with the 200 or so discount that eventually came about, I get the impression it was overpriced. In my case, a Nexus 6 with fresh battery for $75 >>>>> New Essential at $500+. I still don't believe in $75 Pixels either and would love to be proven wrong. I am right or someone is withholding a massive bargain from XDA folks.