Amazon Fire HD 10 (2021) with Google Services installed - Offline navigation with Google Maps - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
A friend gave me a Amazon HD Fire 10 (2021) tablet and asked me to "Put Google on it."
With a little luck and a bit of Google-ing, I managed to get Chrome, Youtube, Gmail, etc. working but I have an issue with Google Maps in that it works fine while online connected via Wi-Fi - It finds my location and lets me navigate, I can even download maps for offline use....but as soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, Maps looses my location and I can only view the "steps" needed to get from "Point A" to "Point B".
Any help would be much appreciated.
PS: Fire OS version is 7.3.2.4

So as it turns out, Amazon Fire tablets doesn't have built in GPS, or not according to gsmarena.
There is an article somewhere on XDA that mentions the contrary but to my understanding, the built-in GPS isn't activated out of the factory. (I just can't find the article right at this moment.)
I ended up using this app from the Google Play store to share my phone's GPS location to the tablet via Bluetooth.
Obviously, you need to mod the tablet and install Google Play for this to work. I found that the Fire Toolbox method didn't work for me spesifically...so I used this guide instead.
Well, I hope someone finds this useful!
Cheers.

Noob1994 said:
So as it turns out, Amazon Fire tablets doesn't have built in GPS, or not according to gsmarena.
There is an article somewhere on XDA that mentions the contrary but to my understanding, the built-in GPS isn't activated out of the factory. (I just can't find the article right at this moment.)
I ended up using this app from the Google Play store to share my phone's GPS location to the tablet via Bluetooth.
Obviously, you need to mod the tablet and install Google Play for this to work. I found that the Fire Toolbox method didn't work for me spesifically...so I used this guide instead.
Well, I hope someone finds this useful!
Cheers.
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can you explain it to me in further detail, how to do this? i have fire hd 10 plus, I installed your apps, but it doesn't work. How do I do it? do I need to also install the same apps on my tablet / client side or only from the smartphone / server side?

randomguyy said:
can you explain it to me in further detail, how to do this? i have fire hd 10 plus, I installed your apps, but it doesn't work. How do I do it? do I need to also install the same apps on my tablet / client side or only from the smartphone / server side?
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Hi
I don't have the tablet with me anymore but I will make a guide with screenshots using 2 android phones as soon as I get a chance.... I might be able to do it a little later today but don't hold me to a promise.
Regards

Noob1994 said:
Hi
I don't have the tablet with me anymore but I will make a guide with screenshots using 2 android phones as soon as I get a chance.... I might be able to do it a little later today but don't hold me to a promise.
Regards
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thanks bro... I spent like 12 hours researching to no avail, also i am kinda new on this forum but looking for this specific information makes me want to kill myself in videogames. Googling doesn't help either because 99.9% informations out there are just trash and they don't exactly deal with this specific issue. I am just getting frustrated almost wanting to throw this tablet to the trashcan already because literally that's all i want to have and I can't do it.
There's some guys on youtube that succeed having their fire tablet doing gps navigation but it is either the old version or they just gloated they managed to do it without telling us anything how to do it.
This is just mind boggling to me, why the hell amazon not implementing gps system on tablet? sorry I am ranting cause I am truly desperate and don't know what to do anymore.

randomguyy said:
thanks bro... I spent like 12 hours researching to no avail, also i am kinda new on this forum but looking for this specific information makes me want to kill myself in videogames. Googling doesn't help either because 99.9% informations out there are just trash and they don't exactly deal with this specific issue. I am just getting frustrated almost wanting to throw this tablet to the trashcan already because literally that's all i want to have and I can't do it.
There's some guys on youtube that succeed having their fire tablet doing gps navigation but it is either the old version or they just gloated they managed to do it without telling us anything how to do it.
This is just mind boggling to me, why the hell amazon not implementing gps system on tablet? sorry I am ranting cause I am truly desperate and don't know what to do anymore.
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I know how you feel. I also battled with this for a while.
I promised you a guide with screenshots....the problem is I cannot replicate the results using 2 android phones that have built-in GPS
The best I can do is guide you through download / setup of the app from memory:
1) Open Google Maps on the Fire HD 10 while it is connected to Wi-Fi and download an offline map of your area. Turn off Wi-Fi afterwards.
2) Download the GPS Connector app to the Fire HD 10
3) Enable "Developer Options" on the Fire HD 10 and set "Mock Location App" to the "GPS Connector" app (This step is pretty much the same on all Android phones or tablets -
Open Settings
Open Device Options
Tap the Serial number seven times
Swipe to the bottom of the Device Options menu
Developer Options should be the last item​
...from here, open "Developer Options" and scroll down a ways until you see something along the lines of "Select mock location app.)
4) Pair your phone** (the device that will be sending the GPS signal) to your Fire HD 10 via Bluetooth
5) Open the "GPS Connector" app on the Fire HD 10 and click the "Settings" cog-icon
6) Click on "GNSS Device" and then click "Bluetooth"
7) On the next screen, select "Paired device" and then select your phone's ** Bluetooth name
8) Backtrack one screen and turn on "Set GPS Mock Location"
9) Now, turn on your phone's** location
10) Go back to the main screen of "GPS Connector" and you should see the time as well as Latitude and Longitude coordinates on the screen
11) Minimize the "GPS Connector" app into your "Recent Apps" and open Google Maps
12) If you don't have location right away, click the small circular button with the red "?" inside, this should prompt you to turn on "Location Services".
If all goes well, you should now be able to navigate offline within the area of the map that you downloaded. For example, from your house to the local grocery store.
If you have an unlimited data plan on your phone, you could also setup your android phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot and tether it to the Fire HD 10.
Let me know if you manage, if not I will try and find another app to do the GPS sharing.
Good luck

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[Q] Can Android Market be installed on a non rooted KF?

I have a few questions and they are probably answered here but I'm at work so its very hard tor me to get on my phone.
- is their a way to get android market on a KF even if its not rooted? I really would just like to install apps that are not in the amazon market. A new launcher,etc. Do you have to be rooted to install apps from android?
- What is side loading apps? I keep hearing people talk about this? What is it for?
- is there a way to text people from my KF? If so can anyone tell me a good app?
- how can I change the amazon keyboard to say swiftkey or something?
- any way to play movies on the KF? Could I drop a mkv, avi, divx, etc. movie from my pc onto my kindle? Or could I stream it to my kindle somehow?
- last question to now...is there a way to improve the touch screen response? I have to repeatedly touch icons, links and whatnot. I thought I saw an app that improves the KF screen?
Thanks everyone for the help, its greatly appreciated.
bal1985 said:
I have a few questions and they are probably answered here but I'm at work so its very hard tor me to get on my phone.
1) - is their a way to get android market on a KF even if its not rooted? I really would just like to install apps that are not in the amazon market. A new launcher,etc. Do you have to be rooted to install apps from android?
2) - What is side loading apps? I keep hearing people talk about this? What is it for?
3) - is there a way to text people from my KF? If so can anyone tell me a good app?
4) - how can I change the amazon keyboard to say swiftkey or something?
5) - any way to play movies on the KF? Could I drop a mkv, avi, divx, etc. movie from my pc onto my kindle? Or could I stream it to my kindle somehow?
6) - last question to now...is there a way to improve the touch screen response? I have to repeatedly touch icons, links and whatnot. I thought I saw an app that improves the KF screen?
Thanks everyone for the help, its greatly appreciated.
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1) No. Market needs root to install. Some other launchers work without root, but you now have to side load them. You can add other non-Amazon apps in many cases, but without root, you can't use the Android Market, so you would need to side load them.
2) Copying the APK install files via download or via usb or other means.
3) The Kindle Fire is not a phone, there is no radio in the device so no text messaging. You can use things like Google Talk but you need root to install it. There are some web based txt stuff, but that is not really on the device.
4) Need root to do this
5) There are other video players that will do this. Like MX Video player
6) Not really.
6 In particular is starting to get on my nerves. I think its an OS/Kernel issue because tapping stuff elsewhere seems to be ok, but that bar is a headache. Hit back 5x and you see it light up each time.
Also I dont know if its dolphin browser or what but a lot of the times I tap a typing area like google search, after 2-3 letters it just hides the keyboard.
Also I've been having more issues where you click a typable area and start typing, but nothing shows. Keyboard is showing recommended words, but none will actually show on the screen.
Oh, also if you're watching a video on a site, good luck moving the time bar. Sometimes I have to press and hold my finger 2-3 seconds for it to trigger.
Seems to be a little worse since 6.2 imo.
Once the kindle is rooted and the entire market is installed does the kindle act like an android phone? Do you get the android home screen? With cm7 does your tablet act just like phone obviously without gos and so on.
bal1985 said:
Once the kindle is rooted and the entire market is installed does the kindle act like an android phone? Do you get the android home screen? With cm7 does your tablet act just like phone obviously without gos and so on.
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The market is just an app that you use to get more apps.
It will still look and feel like an out of the box kindle fire.
And last I recall the market wont show up in the standard kindle launcher, so no one would even know it was there.
You have to take additional steps to even utilize it.
CM7 would make it act like an android device. there are tablets with CM7 so it has nothing to do with phones. Gos I assume is gps, and some tablets have that so it isnt phone only.
Hi,
Please refer to the article below. It will give you a deeper understanding of what rooting is and some tweaks you can do to the unit.
http://www.terracode.com/KindleFire/KF_Review_and_Tweaks_P1.html
If you have google voice linked with your Sprint number, you can send and receive texts via Google Voice
I have the Market installed but for some reason there are tons of apps missing for the market. Is their way to fix this?
Apps like Yahoo Fantasy Football to Google Maps or Google Earth are not there.
bal1985 said:
...
- is there a way to text people from my KF? If so can anyone tell me a good app?
...is there a way to improve the touch screen response?...
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I think you can send/receive a limited number of text messages as well as make /receive calls with a free Google Voice account. I have not tested this with the Kindle Fire, so someone else may correct me.
There is an app called TouchScreen Booster that may help you adjust your screen sensitivity.
the following is from an other thread i don't remember (thanks to them !)
additional settings in build.prop:
# Rendering User Interface With GPU
debug.sf.hw=1
# Increase overall touch responsiveness
video.accelerate.hw=1
windowsmgr_max_events_per_sec=150
debug.performance.tuning=1
MAKE BACKUP COPY !!! - CAUTION WITH MODIFYING BUILD.PROP !!!
if your not sure - leave it !
i made this settings and i'm satisfied ...
Go to Kindle Fire browser Google search for "applanet". Under the link will be on the left "familiar interface" I tried that one first and it didn't work. On the right of it is one called "Version". I clicked that one and it directly started downloading an app. Tap the upper left part of the screen where the notifications are and when it is done downloading tap on its notification. It will install. (prior to this you need to go to settings - device and turn on download from unknown sources) install it and it creates an app called Applanet Market. Go to the Amazon market and search for ADW ex. Download that. You may find apps on Applanet that are not in Amazons.Search for any application you want. Like youtube, earth, gmail, whatever. When you're done playing with applanet hit your home key. It will give you a choice of ADW or stock. Check off the default box and choose ADW. Go to menu at bottom and go to ADW settings. Advanced. Set columns to 6 and rows to 6 and return back. At the bottom middle you have the ADW 3 button controller. I opened the app drawer (middle button) and dragged the Kindle Fire launcher to home screen and then long pressed it and dragged it over the area left of the appdrawer button. It will stick here and with it you can get to the stock KF home screen. But whenever you tap home, you will go to ADW. If you ever want to change that, go to settings. Applications. ADW. And at the lower area you can choose to release the default.
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krelvinaz said:
5) There are other video players that will do this. Like MX Video player
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In response to this and OP's earlier question, MX is good. Moboplayer is good too, but I've been having full screen problems with Mobo. On streaming, you can use Dropbox or Sugarsync (I use SS, there is a thread on it in the apps category). For streaming though, I've found that MX doesn't work great and Mobo is better, which is why I use that for streaming, although I still have the full screen issues. If you stream using SS, just make sure that file is encoded in a quality to get a good stream. There is also another thread on how to setup files to do this in apps category as well.
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Is applanet back up?
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Test Uber and Lyft apps on your Android Head Unit?

Can someone do me favor and test the Uber Partner app and Lyft app (both in the Google Play Store, links below) on their Android head unit? I'm just curious to see if they display decently in these type of units and if there's any weird behavior when tapping around. No need to signup (if you already have an account reporting on the map display and behavior would be appreciated), any kind of information is useful even from the landing/login/sign up screen.
Uber Partner - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubercab.driver
Lyft - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.lyft.android
Thanks in advance
DiGiTY said:
Can someone do me favor and test the Uber Partner app and Lyft app (both in the Google Play Store, links below) on their Android head unit? I'm just curious to see if they display decently in these type of units and if there's any weird behavior when tapping around. No need to signup (if you already have an account reporting on the map display and behavior would be appreciated), any kind of information is useful even from the landing/login/sign up screen.
Uber Partner - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubercab.driver
Lyft - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.lyft.android
Thanks in advance
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So both Lyft and UberPartner technically work, but I observed some issues so far (I've only tested things a few times):
in both apps, their UI elements take up so much screen real estate you can't see much of the map. This makes it hard to clearly determine where an incoming request's pick up location is (i.e., some drivers don't accept requests longer than X ETA or distance). for both apps I forget whether the ETA and distance is shown (I've only tested things a few times)
in UberPartner, only half of the full circle countdown fits on the screen/is visible (i.e., during an incoming request)
in Lyft when you try to call passenger the Android system obviously throws an error saying mobile network not found. I've bought Tablet Talk app to get around this, but haven't had time to set it up
in UberPartner, there is no call passenger option (I guess the app detects the device isn't on a mobile network and doesn't display it)
in UberPartner, at the end of the ride at the submit button is cut off at the bottom (you can see the fare amount, the star rating slider and that's it). essentially you can't submit the rating and can't end the ride. if you force close the app, re-open the app and go back online you're hit with the end of ride screen again and basically stuck. the workaround is to force close it, maybe wait 5 to 10 minutes and open it on your phone to successfully end the ride
Essentially in Lyft you can scroll/swipe up and down to get the rest of the screen, but in UberPartner you can't. To fix the UberPartner's submit button issue I've tried changing the app's resolution, DPI and orientation using the App Settings module for Xposed Frameworks, but I've been unsuccessful - I can never get the submit button to be visible. That's where things are at the moment.
I'd love to get the UberPartner app to fit on screen so I can see the submit button and finally use my head unit to fully replace my phone while ride sharing. If anyone has any insight, it would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. - I'm running a Joying 2818H 7" 1024x600 RK3188 based head unit. The Lyft and UberPartner versions tested are whatever were released within the last two weeks. Xposed Framework 2.7 experimental 1 and App Settings 1.10 were tested.
Just an update... the new/current Uber Partner app with the new sliding buttons works fine from start to finish now (without the need of Xposed and App Settings). The new submit button is visible at the end of a ride and a ride can be completed.
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Nevermind
I know this is a old post but dose any one still use this if so how did u get around the picture requirements now.
Yeh Uber app is working fine now in Late 2022 the only problem I am facing is the need to take a photo of myself a lot. I login using my phone to take a photo then go offline and open it on my Head Unit again

Fake location FireTV Stick FireOS 5 (without root)

I've installed google play services ( sideload without root based on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-3SWSD232U ).
And Fake Location 3.27 apk (com.fakegps.mock), tried a few others that failed to install but this one installed and seems to work.
You will need to use the ADB shell to enable mock locations as well. I also installed a rotation app to force landscape on apps that seem to think its portrait.
I have my location set by ZIP code in FireOS settings however it seems that all apps don't use it.
Installed (sideloaded) all of these to get this working (I'm not certain if GP services are needed for fake location to work or not, but I think they are):
Google Account Manager_4.0.3-239410.apk
Google Play Store_4.6.17.apk
Google Play services_4.4.52 (1174655-036).apk
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691.apk
com.google.android.gms-8.1.14_(2244331-030)-8114030-minAPI9.apk
com.estrongs.android.pop-v4.0.2.8-242-Android-2.2.apk (ES File Explorer)
RotateScreenOrientation.apk - Free for XDA people
Fake gps - fake location_3.27.com.apk
Watch TNT_3.1.20151105.com.apk - Wanted to be able to Watch TNT on FireTV Stick (requires Cable sub) - doesn't work perfectly, can't "full screen" so there is a red banner at the top of the screen. have to use a mouse too
Enable Mock Locations (since they don't show in the settings app in Fire OS):
Code:
[email protected]:/ $ settings get secure mock_location
0
[email protected]:/ $ settings put secure mock_location 1
[email protected]:/ $ settings get secure mock_location
1
Then I opened Fake Location and set my location (accurately, as it placed me in the middle of the ocean) and started the fake location then switched apps over to Watch TNT and now I am able to stream Live TV.
Does anyone have a full list of settings that we can change via the shell access?
Edit:
Also working
Watch ABC Family (better than TNT works too)
Watch ABC - Live TV not available in my area though (but it was for ABC Family??)
I will admit that none of these are HD quality streams, 480p at best after it has buffered a bit.
Thanks for posting this tip. Followed these steps to get WatchTNT to load live streams using the latest version of Fake Location. Full-screen works on a FireTV2 -- but I can't seem to get rid of the red banner on the top of the screen. Tried disabling screen locker, but no change.
Have you come across any work-arounds? I'll try my luck on a few other app forums to see if others have had any success.
the fact that the red banner is there is why i say it doesn't work in full screen, it may take up 95% of the screen but that banner is an issue.
Not sure what can be done about it either.
horrorschow1986 said:
Use TorGuard! Works Perfect for me!
Yes it costs something but there is a Spezial offer 29,90$ /year! I'm on aftv 1. gen without Root!
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Not sure why we would need a VPN service. FireOS 5 doesn't appear to be able to report any location data to the non Amazon apps. That's the whole point of us faking location in this instance. Our IPs are already USA based so that eliminates 95% of the need for the VPN when someone is trying to fake a location.
Old thread i know , but has anyone got fake location working with the latest fireos?
moontan33 said:
Old thread i know , but has anyone got fake location working with the latest fireos?
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I too would love an answer to that question. I've done all the installations of APK's that are called for, and everything seems poised to work, but [email protected]:/ $ settings get secure mock_location returns a no such file or directory error.
pryingeyes said:
I too would love an answer to that question. I've done all the installations of APK's that are called for, and everything seems poised to work, but [email protected]:/ $ settings get secure mock_location returns a no such file or directory error.
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If you want to use such apps you would need to be rooted as the app needs to be in system/priv-app for most GPS faking to work
You could use a vpn if it's just an ip based location check
TheFixItMan said:
If you want to use such apps you would need to be rooted as the app needs to be in system/priv-app for most GPS faking to work
You could use a vpn if it's just an ip based location check
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No, that doesn't solve it. My IP address, if that was all that was required, is just fine for the purpose and would not need to be revised through a vpn. I'm trying to get my local stations via the DirecTV tablet app. It requires a GPS reading that simply shows you're somewhere in your service area, and specifically prompts you to turn on GPS locations in settings.. The Firestick doesn't provide one, but in the past people have had success by installing the various Google apps and an Android settings app, allowing mock, and then using apps like fake GPS to create a GPS reading and satisfy DirecTV that they really are sitting in their own living rooms. Fake GPS would be the simple answer except that when you open it, it prompts you to go into settings and allow mock. But because that's under Android developer options (not firestick developer options), it can't be accessed. There's no way to repeatedly click on About Phone in the newly-installed settings app to open up D.O., as you normally would on an actual phone.
In the past, installing everything in the OP and then entering that adb command was the solution, but that command no longer works. Just looking for an alternate.
Did you ever resolve this with the newer fire sticks?
I'm also wondering the same my mock locations say on withing adb however I'm getting nothing out of the firetv
man i dont like that sound of install that google play services.....if you would have asked me few months back because thats how i bricked my first firstick then went on a full on 4 days research marathon AFTER is came back up from a restart loop ON 7th DAY ._.

Fire HD 10 2017 - No GPS Location after Google Play installed

I'd recently installed Google Play onto my Fire HD 10 and noticed my weather apps could no longer access the location services to give me the local weather. It doesn't matter if the apps were downloaded from the Amazon or Play store. The only weather app that still works is the preinstalled one from Amazon. I've checked the Location function is enabled for all the apps within Settings.
Before Google Play installed, the weather apps downloaded from Amazon appstore definitely worked. I'm surprised this issue is not widely known as I've tried a factory reset several times to start again and could reproduce this problem each time.
Please help as this is really annoying as I really want to use the Google Play store.
spikey_w said:
I'd recently installed Google Play onto my Fire HD 10 and noticed my weather apps could no longer access the location services to give me the local weather. It doesn't matter if the apps were downloaded from the Amazon or Play store. The only weather app that still works is the preinstalled one from Amazon. I've checked the Location function is enabled for all the apps within Settings.
Before Google Play installed, the weather apps downloaded from Amazon appstore definitely worked. I'm surprised this issue is not widely known as I've tried a factory reset several times to start again and could reproduce this problem each time.
Please help as this is really annoying as I really want to use the Google Play store.
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We jerry rig these things to the point amazon internals cease to function properly, even without root. Location among them. I guess I can go ahead and write a guide this weekend that could put an end to that. In the framework, there are a few pre defined settings for AGPS. These settings use the Google AGPS system. Amazon only has it half set up. There are no servers set either. I have inserted some default settings I have come across on various devices, to at least get a position lock. Google maps has me off by only a few feet. The issue is, Amazon set it up in the framework for AGPS to work, but never activated it. This also prevents adding a gps.conf file because any additions made to the framework AGPS, override any settings set in the system files. What I will do this weekend is start from a fresh framework-res.apk and settings apk, and set only the AGPS settings. If it works, you unfortunately get no visual effect aside from what your apps provide you.
DragonFire1024 said:
We jerry rig these things to the point amazon internals cease to function properly, even without root. Location among them. I guess I can go ahead and write a guide this weekend that could put an end to that. In the framework, there are a few pre defined settings for AGPS. These settings use the Google AGPS system. Amazon only has it half set up. There are no servers set either. I have inserted some default settings I have come across on various devices, to at least get a position lock. Google maps has me off by only a few feet. The issue is, Amazon set it up in the framework for AGPS to work, but never activated it. This also prevents adding a gps.conf file because any additions made to the framework AGPS, override any settings set in the system files. What I will do this weekend is start from a fresh framework-res.apk and settings apk, and set only the AGPS settings. If it works, you unfortunately get no visual effect aside from what your apps provide you.
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Now I understand, I thought I might have a faulty HD 10 as no one else has mentioned this problem but somehow knew it must be a software issue as before Google Play it worked fine. It will be fantastic if you could fix this. At the moment I have not rooted my HD 10 but if it is necessary then I'm willing to do this to implement the fix. Good luck and thanks.
spikey_w said:
Now I understand, I thought I might have a faulty HD 10 as no one else has mentioned this problem but somehow knew it must be a software issue as before Google Play it worked fine. It will be fantastic if you could fix this. At the moment I have not rooted my HD 10 but if it is necessary then I'm willing to do this to implement the fix. Good luck and thanks.
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I'm not even sure the AGPS settings work myself. I'm just speaking based on my experience so far. Very very few providers use the agps settings in the framework because their devices support GPS. The HD 10 supports GPS. Even has a GPS chip. However, the instructions sent to the preloader at boot tell the preloader GPS is unsupported. I can switch the settings in the Project config.mk, but if it doesn't match the values set in the preloader, the preloader overrides the settings in the .mk. it also links to the other loader too so that would also need to be modified. But without an unlocked bootloader, we can't make changes to those imgs without bricking the tablet. I wish we could take the preloader settings from the HD 8 and load them into the HD 10 preloader. All we need to tweak is the cpu specs and it would be good to go. Damn you Amazon.
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So the HD 10 has a real GPS built-in, that's interesting. I wonder is that why a compass pointer appears momentarily at the top of the screen when the Amazon weather app accesses the location services. Never mind but thanks for your effort to look into this. Yes damn you Amazon indeed.
spikey_w said:
So the HD 10 has a real GPS built-in, that's interesting. I wonder is that why a compass pointer appears momentarily at the top of the screen when the Amazon weather app accesses the location services. Never mind but thanks for your effort to look into this. Yes damn you Amazon indeed.
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Because the HD 10, and pretty much all modern Amazon tablets have 'HERE Positioning' which has no activity and can't be launched, but is the driver for Amazon location services. What little I can gather from the company, they specialize in indoor GPS and uses a similar system to agps. I imagine a user interface arises when you are registered to certain Amazon interfaces, but I've never experimented with an Amazon tablet fully registered and used on Amazon software.
Point being, there is a GPS chip. Look in /system/data/misc at ProjectConfig.mk you'll see the device includes a GPS chip from an older chipset, but the following line says GPS-support=no. the only way to fix this is to modify the kernel. If you scroll to the bottom you'll see a few director locations, like the preloader. The preloader is going to default to whatever it's programmed to, but I've never looked at it. You can edit the file to say yes, but if it doesn't match what the preloaders say, they will override the changes to the make file and boot to set defaults.
Can it be changed? Yes. Will it boot? The chances are slim to none. Modifying any of those partitions and recompiling them will brick the device beyond repair. Locked bootloader means signature verification is active. You modify the prelaoder or boot images, the device will soft or permanent brick.
There is one good thing about this kernel make file. With root, you can add any of the MTK values that say yes, to the build prop, if they aren't already there. for example, from the make file we have:
Code:
MTK_SIM_HOT_SWAP = yes
This is included in the build, but is not supported in the build prop, or the framework (we don't have a mobile device). But if the framework we're not predefined and this were a cell phone, you could add the above to the build prop as:
Code:
ro.mtk_sim_hot_swap_support=1
and so on...
I'm hoping Devo mode will change all of this and then some.
I bought Fire HD 10 for using as head unit in my car. Therefore, Navigation is important for me. Initially I rooted device and tried some offline navigation apps like Maps.me and Here we Go. None of them worked and finally I decided to restore Fire OS to 5.6.1.0 hoping for navigation to work with the apps. It didn't work, now I am wondering if mine is bad unit or GPS is expected not to work.
siddharth_bhal said:
I bought Fire HD 10 for using as head unit in my car. Therefore, Navigation is important for me. Initially I rooted device and tried some offline navigation apps like Maps.me and Here we Go. None of them worked and finally I decided to restore Fire OS to 5.6.1.0 hoping for navigation to work with the apps. It didn't work, now I am wondering if mine is bad unit or GPS is expected not to work.
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The GPS chip is disabled in the kernel. If you have flash fire set up, try flashing nano gapps. when I am settled from moving, I'll post and updated framework apk that I've been working on that should help with location.
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So it seems I may have found the issue. When you set up the play store, before installing Google, make sure 'find my device' is NOT set as administrator at least until you get the pop up that asks if you want to use Google's enhanced location services.
Was trying to solve this problem on a tablet I wanted to use as a jukebox in my car. The jukebox app required location services so that only nearby users could add songs.
On a whim I installed Google Maps from the Play Store, pressed the compass/zoom on my location button within Maps, and that prompted me to turn on Google Location Services. This was on a 5th gen Fire 7 downgraded to FireOS 5.4.0. YMMV with other tablets/OS version.
DragonFire1024 said:
So it seems I may have found the issue. When you set up the play store, before installing Google, make sure 'find my device' is NOT set as administrator at least until you get the pop up that asks if you want to use Google's enhanced location services.
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Thank you, DragonFire1024. I'm glad I found this thread. I haven't had my Fire HD 10 but a week yet (so not too far along into all of the installs and whatnot that I want to do--Play Store was the very first thing I did after some basic configuration that unfortunately included the setting you mentioned) and am wondering if it's worth a factory reset to attempt this fix.
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Thank you, DragonFire1024. I'm glad I found this thread. I haven't had my Fire HD 10 but a week yet (so not too far along into all of the installs and whatnot that I want to do--Play Store was the very first thing I did after some basic configuration that unfortunately included the setting you mentioned) and am wondering if it's worth a factory reset to attempt this fix.
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It depends how bad you want location services to work. If you aren't too concerned, you can install a GPS spoofer and just use it whenever you need location services. The issue with using one of those, keeping a spoofer running all the time will drain your battery quick.
They say they have the chip for GPS but do they have the antenna?
StoneCoast1 said:
They say they have the chip for GPS but do they have the antenna?
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I don't know. All I know is the chip is there, but Amazon had it disabled at build. It's evident in the .mk file in /system/data/misc on the HD 10:
Code:
MTK_GPS_CHIP = MTK_GPS_MT6630
MTK_GPS_SUPPORT = no
Christ, what a bummer. At least I use wx apps where I can input location manually. (Eweather HD, PYKL3 radar)
Rich
dorpmuller said:
Christ, what a bummer. At least I use wx apps where I can input location manually. (Eweather HD, PYKL3 radar)
Rich
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There are a few good GPS emulator apps out there as well.
Could anyone tell me if any fix for this having found? Pleade, should I uninstall Google play and grant access to my location to any one?
Here is what I found on my own, if you enable Scanning Wifi and Scanning Blue Tooth which were disabled by Default the location works in some applications.
throwawayjusttosay said:
Was trying to solve this problem on a tablet I wanted to use as a jukebox in my car. The jukebox app required location services so that only nearby users could add songs.
On a whim I installed Google Maps from the Play Store, pressed the compass/zoom on my location button within Maps, and that prompted me to turn on Google Location Services. This was on a 5th gen Fire 7 downgraded to FireOS 5.4.0. YMMV with other tablets/OS version.
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This worked like a charm for my 2019 HD10. Installed Google play & services immediately after unboxing and no weather app would work. I installed Google maps as you suggested and clicked OK at the prompt to turn on location services and presto, all weather apps are now working. Thank you.
Pretty old thread, but hopefully someone will stumble upon this easy fix.
Hello everybody.
I just got the most current Fire HD 10+ (11th Gen, with 4GB) on a Black Friday deal to use mainly as a car Media and Navigation unit, but the GPS Performance is absolutely terrible.
The included Maps app (Nokia's Here) is barebones and can give you instructions but not precise navigation, so I followed a guide to install Google Services/Play Store and Google Maps.
The GPS kinda works, but mostly when I'm stationary. As soon as I move, it loses satellite signal, and it is veeeery sloppy. Sometimes I need to close the app and open again to have some update (you can imagine how trying this can be while driving on a Freeway).
I spent almost 30 minutes doing "the infinity" symbol to improve accuracy, but Google Maps still says the accuracy is very low.
Any advice on what can I do to make this a usable navigation device?
Thank you

Links to making a HD 10 into a Android clone or close to it. GPS question

Considering I was around PC's before dial up.... I've fallen way behind in the past few decades. So I was given a HD 10. It's great. But I'd like to download and use the android apps. Even the free ones will often say the app will not be fully utilized by the HD10. I had all this info from this site down loaded somewhere to be able to side load and do other stuff. Yes, I lost it. Sigh...
Hint: I have no idea what side-load is other than it sounds like a backdoor means to load software. So what I need if possible.
1. Link to instructions and programs that will allow the full use of the tablet as an android device if possible.
2. Can the HD10 be modified to work like a GPS that most smartphones and even cars now use? using Google maps and apps.
3. Any other tips or links for the HD10. I'm old, retired and have nothing but time. I've blown up my fair share of programs over the decades, so I'd prefer not to turn this "gift" into a target for when I go plinking. So if these programs have recovery options that'd be great. LOL!
Thanks.
BTW this site is terrific, I used it to unlock the Google play store. Great job.
Littlem56 said:
1. Link to instructions and programs that will allow the full use of the tablet as an android device if possible.
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Follow the following instructions:
Unlock Bootloader & Root (required for 2nd)
Debloat (remove unnecessary Amazon apps)
There are some plans to port Stock Android, but it's still in progress.
Littlem56 said:
2. Can the HD10 be modified to work like a GPS that most smartphones and even cars now use? using Google maps and apps.
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Currently no GPS, because Amazon didn't set it up right for some reason. AGPS (location service via network) works.

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