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Agreed, lets stop devs until they do something actually.. Call me insane but SE roms although slow are stable in one way or the other, and dev roms are not, full with bugs, wlods, freezing, ?!?viruses?!?.. Developed on someone others idea !
And all that is done is unfinished.. Always something missing.. And every two to three days update.. After what we get pls stand by "work in progress"..
100 ROMs and everyone missing something.. NO COOPERATION AT ALL..
Finally in latest happenings they shown us why they can't cooperate..
After all ROMs I tried, SADLY, but I have to admit that I have returned to stock ROM !!
I had faith in you but seems that mine faith was futile..
Sorry guys.. I m dissapointed..
DO something SERIOUS or get a real job !!
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Agreed, lets stop devs until they do something actually.. Call me insane but SE roms although slow are stable in one way or the other, and dev roms are not, full with bugs, wlods, freezing, ?!?viruses?!?.. Developed on someone others idea !
And all that is done is unfinished.. Always something missing.. And every two to three days update.. After what we get pls stand by "work in progress"..
100 ROMs and everyone missing something.. NO COOPERATION AT ALL..
Finally in latest happenings they shown us why they can't cooperate..
After all ROMs I tried, SADLY, but I have to admit that I have returned to stock ROM !!
I had faith in you but seems that mine faith was futile..
Sorry guys.. I m dissapointed..
DO something SERIOUS or get a real job !!
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Stop spouting rubbish. All work on here is a work in progress. its a community of official developers who develop nice things for us in their spare time.
so for you to come here and display not only a lack of basic understanding of how far we've actually come but also a massive amount of disrespect is actually quite upsetting, if you have read the forum you'd know that A, most of the roms here are BETA or ALPHA B, We have no boot-loader access so cant get a lot of things working
Im expecting your apology via pm so i can replace you embarrassing post with it
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Just putting it out there that I would love to be a tester for the Galaxy SII, I have the original one, I have flash and went through 90% of every ROM up for it in both sections the original section and regular section, I just love flashing and going through Roms and would love to just help out someone with there Rom and do whatever it is they need me to do as far as testing, please hit me back. I hope I posted this is the right place if not, I will watch the Noob video 20 times in a row for punishment.
ah ok...... that's an idea
Original SGS II ? No kidding! :|
At first, I thought of this as just a pointless thread - but you got me thinking... What if we were to create a thread where people can nominate themselves as alpha/beta/etc. testers for ROM/Kernel developers? The difference lying in that to be eligible for a position, you'd have to prove that you have basic knowledge of how to recover from, for example, a bootloop, or a device that won't even boot, or constant FCs, etc. etc., along with again, pretty basic ADB knowledge, how to create and restore a NANDroid backup, and things like that. It'd come with the usual disclaimer stating that all responsibilities lie with the user, not the developer, and while the developer may be willing to provide support for bugs, etc., they are not liable for any damage resulting either directly or indirectly from the use of their software.
This would solve two things - it would satisfy those who just can't stand to wait for the release of something, who like to always live on the bleeding edge of development, and it would provide the developers a huge testing platform.
In review, though, this provides to main issues: 1) people would only be able to test one thing at a time, e.g. you're not going to be allowed to test a beta ROM with an alpha kernel, for example - it creates too many variables, and makes it harder for the developers to isolate and fix problems - but this shouldn't be an issue for people, just pick what you want and stick with it, and 2) people who leak the otherwise tester-restricted software for the masses - but this can be solved easily: maintain a list of official testers. Anyone who comes begging for support because they went ahead and flashed some leaked ROM/kernel/whatever, and ended up without a working device without being on the list, can be denied support for breaking the rules. Moreover, they, along with the leaker, could potentially face site-imposed bans?
I'll cut the rambling here, but I think it's a good idea?
As a ROM developer, its a great idea.
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Thinking about it, not bad idea. But to back sceamworks up a bit, there should be a number of post limit, Some form of history for the dev`s to see who is a Noob (sorry Noobs) and who is not...
I'm in
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I like the idea and I too would be glad to help people testing there ROMs.
It also seems nice to have a thread where people (like me or the OP) can set them self available for testing.
Most real developers pick their team from watching the threads and see how is willing to put the time in and know how to properly test as well as offer ideas on fixes. But not a bad idea I guess for new rom developers
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Thinking about it, not bad idea. But to back sceamworks up a bit, there should be a number of post limit, Some form of history for the dev`s to see who is a Noob (sorry Noobs) and who is not...
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I agree completely, I'd say 50-100 would be a fair starting point? I might PM some devs sometime soon with a proper proposal, and if I get a positive response from a majority of them, I might draft something, and get some official names on-board.
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Most real developers pick their team from watching the threads and see how is willing to put the time in and know how to properly test as well as offer ideas on fixes. But not a bad idea I guess for new rom developers
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I considered this, and I think if anything brings the idea down, it'll be that - it's a hard sell to make, and I'd love to say that there's no harm in trying, but really, there is, so I guess execution is everything?
Good idea, im in....
I understand, after 2+ years, that ROM development and the forums for the EVO are gonna slow down. Devs are going to move on to other devices, but there is a really disturbing trend here that is irritating the hell out of me.
ROMs used to be released as Aplha's Beta's RC's, final, etc. You could look at the OP and see everything about the ROM. Devs took their time crafting something unique.
Now, I'm seeing these ROMS come out at a rapid pace and I'm not liking it for several reasons.
1) Poorly written OP's that don't even list the Android base version or the kernel, etc.
2) The same ROM with different names and the only real differences are a few 3rd party apps, or a slight theme change.
3) ROMs released as finals, with a ton of bugs. I'm not talking about FFC, Netflix, 4G bugs on ICS/JB ROMS; I'm talking about ROMS with no Wifi, for example. The majority use WiFi. Why the HELL would you release something where one of the most important aspects doesn't even work?? It's like not paying attention to details is suddenly OK
Settings that don't stick. Sounds that don't stick. Constant System Process Errors. These are pre-release errors, and I don't see them getting fixed, because it's become like a race to port every other ROM from every other device and tweak to boot up on the Evo, then letting it go.
I REALLY wish I could take the time and learn how to properly cook up my own ROM. My OCD of paying attention to details would probably make it great.
Hipkat thats the best thing ive heard in weeks,someone finally speaking out about the BS thats being posted now days and its like everyones in a race to see who can come out with the most borked roms,lol,like you said,they are all the same,except the apps and some themeing and half of them cant do that either,i'm sure this isnt meant to be a bashing session,its just getting rediculous with the drama some are causing and all the crappy ass roms being released,some guys do know what their doing,theres been 1 or 2 that i've put out that i shouldnt have,but come on guys at least take your time and try to do it right,only takes a little common sense and effort.If you havent noticed,over half the members and devs have left because of the BS,when i started doing roms,it was fun,nows its just a big joke,lol.
I dont care if anyone gets pissed about this and i'm sure they will,but oh well life goes on,you will eventually get over it.
It's definitely not a bashing, but a call for Devs to take a little more time and do it right
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It's definitely not a bashing, but a call for Devs to take a little more time and do it right
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I don't Dev, Cook, Build, Port or whatever term is used so I have alot of respect for those that do. With that being said I would also state that I am in complete agreement with you and Diablo.
I look at damned near every topic started in the Dev forum just to see what is being made. I take weeks to look at a new ROM and follow the threads to see what comes of it (with the only exception being Mazda's new CAJB ROM. On that one I went with name recognition and am pleased that I did)
In regards to the mass influx of ROMs I'll say this: If you guys don't take the time to keep up with each item you produce, work on bugs, add new options, answer questions from the users then you'll soon find yourself out of favor. Your reputation here, just like in RL, is something of value. It takes very little to earn trust, respect and loyalty. Most people will always give you the benefit of the doubt. Do something to devalue that trust and it can be nearly impossible to regain.
I think some wisdom can be gleaned by the following quote:
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I've seen devs, chefs, hackers, w/e, that make statements like "I do this for myself and just choose to share" or things to that effect. I call BS. I won't speak for anyone else but myself when I say, I do this for the thrill of it, for the challenge, to learn, and to share. I'd be lying if I said I didn't care about d/l numbers or that seeing my thanks meter grow did not give me some juvenalalistic (is that a word?) thrill. The fact is, guys like me doing this stuff get off on it...
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We know why you do it, and if you want to keep your junkies and not lose your rep, then make sure you take the time to Develop your craft and thereby make a better product for the masses...
Sorry for the rant
Well said, and nice quote from Jamie, who, btw, you notice took a lot of time with Reloaded
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Well said, and nice quote from Jamie, who, btw, you notice took a lot of time with Reloaded
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...lol, 'nuff said!
I think everyone needs to remember the difference between Development and Port / Theme / Tweak / Mod. That simple labeling would be a start
Over in Evo LTE land, they have finally recognized this distinction by creating entirely separate forums for "HTC EVO 4G LTE Android Development" and "HTC EVO 4G LTE Original Android Development"
One is for tweaks or ports, and the other is for people who actually compile something.
I made a request for the same original dev section but got denied as our device is to old.
I agree that there are a ton of ports and not enough originality or bugs being fixed. What I would like to state us that the op is stating that a lot have some third party apps but that's like calling the kettle black. You yourself have a rerelease of a miui from where all you did was slap your team name in the thread. I believe the original thread still exists. I'm not calling you out at all but at the same time the work that goes into all these ports or mods or what not is a ton. I myself have my rom thread and some new stuff coming out but I don't call people out usually on their stuff unless its a pure kang(meaning an actual using of ur work with out permission) not a duplicate port.
Yeah some of the revs here could put a little more work in and for sure learn to organize their rom thread a whole hell of a lot better but at the same time who else do u see bringing the newest and best to a two year old device.
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It's not that they have 3rd party apps, all ROMS do, it's that some ROMS are just the same ROM with a few different 3rd party apps, or a slight variation in theming, and I mean real slight, but tbh, my biggest beef was with the OP not even listing what kernel is in the ROM, or if it has A2SD or a way to get it working, or the version of Android it's based on, etc.
Add in bug reports that get ignored or the person posting the report gets demeaned for it.
Mostly, it's just the sloppiness that I see going on over the last few months. Too hasty to release something without really perfecting it first
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It's not that they have 3rd party apps, all ROMS do, it's that some ROMS are just the same ROM with a few different 3rd party apps, or a slight variation in theming, and I mean real slight, but tbh, my biggest beef was with the OP not even listing what kernel is in the ROM, or if it has A2SD or a way to get it working, or the version of Android it's based on, etc.
Add in bug reports that get ignored or the person posting the report gets demeaned for it.
Mostly, it's just the sloppiness that I see going on over the last few months. Too hasty to release something without really perfecting it first
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I can agree with that there. sloppy op's without all the listings of what is added or taken out and what its running with a q & a section amoung other things.
I feel like we developers and porters alike should make a check list. Every time you want to post something, run through the list and then once everything is there, read again. If it seems like a business proposition (detailed, understandable, provocative and complete) then, that is the right moment to unleash it.
Thats exactly what i do,i make a list in notepad of what i want to do to the rom,then i go through and check it off as i go,wahla,i have a channelog,so to speak,then post it on the thread.Just like in my 4 Kornerz thread..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612933
Same thing I'm gonna do as I try and update this MIUI GB ROM
What's funny is that the main reason I always hated opening ROM threads is because I'm completely OCD and feel like the posts have to make perfect sense. I try for my thread to make a little bit of sense at least at this point. And I try to keep change logs, bug reports & FAQs up to date.
But then again, I only have one ROM thread in this device section.
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Current Device: HTC EVO 4G LTE | ROM: toasted-deck CM10 | Kernel: Stock
Kernel should be listed.
a2sd included/not included AND if a specific version is known to work/not work.
Gapps included/not included (you can usually tell from the size of the ROM, but still)
SuperSU vs. Superuser
Wifi and data working/not working
Boot animation audio (can lead to uncomfortable moments when flashing in restrooms, in bed, around family or in TSA security lines--- yes, all personal experiences)
Probably much more...
RootzWiki kinda sorta tried to standardize some of that in OP headers. Would be cool to see that concept expanded in a visually pleasing manner. But, I know people like sprucing up their OP to their liking. Example:
Source: https://github.com/s...mmc-ra-recovery
Mod Type: Recovery Difficulty: Moderate Mod Status: Kang Mod Base: Carrier:
Requires Root: Yes Apply In: Fastboot Optional: Themed Optional: Android Version:
I think ports are great. If the developer is planning on just bringing it over and leaving it alone I think that's fine, but they should be upfront and say "Hey, I did this. Probably won't do any more with it myself, but anyone is welcome to add to it. Otherwise, enjoy."
What I'd really like to see is the people who respond first after an OP + OP reserved do something with that slot besides planting their flag of happening to be online at the right time (e.g. "First. Looks cool!"). They could take the lead, especially for very active developers with many ROMs and threads, to follow that thread and maintain an updated ROM Cheat Sheet/Known Fixes post. How many times have you followed the development of a ROM and things like the new boot animation didn't make it into the next update because the developer forgot. Then people post, "Hey, what happened to the boot ani" five or six times. Then a nice person posts it on Dropbox. Then a few people say other things. Then people repeat the question. Then people point them to the Dropbox link two pages back. Repeat. Repeat. Probably wouldn't matter though since a lot of people never read the OP. They sure wouldn't read that. I'll shut up.
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Kernel should be listed.
a2sd included/not included AND if a specific version is known to work/not work.
Gapps included/not included (you can usually tell from the size of the ROM, but still)
SuperSU vs. Superuser
Wifi and data working/not working
Boot animation audio (can lead to uncomfortable moments when flashing in restrooms, in bed, around family or in TSA security lines--- yes, all personal experiences)
Probably much more...
RootzWiki kinda sorta tried to standardize some of that in OP headers. Would be cool to see that concept expanded in a visually pleasing manner. But, I know people like sprucing up their OP to their liking. Example:
Source: https://github.com/s...mmc-ra-recovery
Mod Type: Recovery Difficulty: Moderate Mod Status: Kang Mod Base: Carrier:
Requires Root: Yes Apply In: Fastboot Optional: Themed Optional: Android Version:
I think ports are great. If the developer is planning on just bringing it over and leaving it alone I think that's fine, but they should be upfront and say "Hey, I did this. Probably won't do any more with it myself, but anyone is welcome to add to it. Otherwise, enjoy."
What I'd really like to see is the people who respond first after an OP + OP reserved do something with that slot besides planting their flag of happening to be online at the right time (e.g. "First. Looks cool!"). They could take the lead, especially for very active developers with many ROMs and threads, to follow that thread and maintain an updated ROM Cheat Sheet/Known Fixes post. How many times have you followed the development of a ROM and things like the new boot animation didn't make it into the next update because the developer forgot. Then people post, "Hey, what happened to the boot ani" five or six times. Then a nice person posts it on Dropbox. Then a few people say other things. Then people repeat the question. Then people point them to the Dropbox link two pages back. Repeat. Repeat. Probably wouldn't matter though since a lot of people never read the OP. They sure wouldn't read that. I'll shut up.
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LOL, you forgot 'Lather, Rinse...'
Who else clicked the link
While I agree with the OP 100%, I think at the end of the day there is NO rule that states that you need to do all that..... This is for FREE, and therefore we should be happy with we get on our EVO's nowadays..... I wish developers took their time to put a fully detail change log, bug list Q&A's section, but honestly if we don't like the way certain devs handle their threads, then just move on to the next Rom either way I don't develop, and I can figure out most stuff regarding a Rom by myself now, so I'm just thankful for all the roms out for the og EVO.
Edit: what I would like to know is what's going on with all the Rom teams flip flopping, what's up with that? Sorry to go off topic, lol.
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Sorry, but while I appreciate the freeness of the work done and am grateful for it, there should still be enough info to identify exactly what you're getting into.
Perfect example. A lot of ICS/JB ROMS require the patched A2SD file. Good luck finding it. Why not add a link to the OP?? Same with GAPPS
And the date that it was released is much appreciated, although not as critical. The Android version if it's a Sense and/or GB ROM is definitely something that should be there, along with the kernel.
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Edit: what I would like to know is what's going on with all the Rom teams flip flopping, what's up with that? Sorry to go off topic, lol.
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Two teams merged. Some people have left teams. I myself left td to not look partial towards a certain group.
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*** Rom taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277764 ***
*** Base rom CM7.2.0 RC0 by hPA ***
I'm post here because the rom not finished yet, beside that, there's a chance @jlmancuso (I hope) willing to make a thread in development section.
Rom running well and stable enough on ds, but still have few bugs that cannot solved by myself.
So far, there are 2 main problems
1) Main settings and Cyan settings not show up, only blank screen. Logcat attached
15:30:15.546 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x23f1f0 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:15.578 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x335ba8 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:15.750 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x3b9ce8 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:16.328 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x1f66f8 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:16.546 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x2d96d0 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:16.968 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x3209a8 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:17.046 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x3b6fa0 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:27.609 Error qsd8k.gralloc 993 [unregister] handle 0x3cabd0 still locked (state=40000001)
15:30:26.734 Error PrintK 2289 <3>init: cannot execve('/system/bin/debuggerd'): No such file or directory
2) Wifi and wifi tether error (this is because libhardware_legacy.so and libandroid_runtime.so)
Need help from other forum members, or somebody willing to compile it from the source. (sources link can be found from original thread link above).
I'll give a hand with research.
My ROM will be based of source but it is still a few weeks away as my computer parts are slowly trickling in and I need to update the S7 roms.
Look at the manifest of the settings
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...show-up-even-though-it-is-in-my-manifest-file
giveen said:
I'll give a hand with research.
My ROM will be based of source but it is still a few weeks away as my computer parts are slowly trickling in and I need to update the S7 roms.
Look at the manifest of the settings
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...show-up-even-though-it-is-in-my-manifest-file
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Thank you giveen.
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This is a great idea! Let me know if there is anything that could be done to help!
Hello there Streakers!!! This will be one of the greatest roms yall will ever run. I have been working on the Evo 4g version (Evo 3d, and Evo shift also in works) and it has been a huge hit. I have been very busy with those three and have not had a chance yet to give the streak a shot on compiling. I hope to have a few free hours this week to try and make a couple of builds for yall to test.
This is a beast of a rom and unfortunately the heart of it is not working in this port. The settings (main and CyanMobile) give you the ability to customize this rom in ways that no other rom before it has been able to do. It can look like a simple vanilla GB Aosp rom, a highly modified Jb Aokp style rom, or any combination in between. These are not themes that you and in to get a look but actual changes in the framework and UI. Well enough pumping yall up for now time to get back in my kitchen and finish cooking up goodies.
I suggest yall take the time and check out my thread in the Dev section that is posted in the Op and also I am working on a thread in the general section to aid users in finding their way in the settings of this beast. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=2305750 It is a bit empty right now because I have been busy on a new kernel along with knocking out the last of the bugs in this things. Although I have 5 reserved post so you can bet it will be something big.
Time to run guys. Hopefully next time I drop by here I will have yall a couple of links to try out. Just remember that this will be a blind build. I do not own a streak myself but then again I dont own an evo shift and I was still able to make a simi-functional rom for them also. So keep your fingers crossed and we might just get lucky.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
Jlmancuso
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Hello there Streakers!!! This will be one of the greatest roms yall will ever run. I have been working on the Evo 4g version (Evo 3d, and Evo shift also in works) and it has been a huge hit. I have been very busy with those three and have not had a chance yet to give the streak a shot on compiling. I hope to have a few free hours this week to try and make a couple of builds for yall to test.
This is a beast of a rom and unfortunately the heart of it is not working in this port. The settings (main and CyanMobile) give you the ability to customize this rom in ways that no other rom before it has been able to do. It can look like a simple vanilla GB Aosp rom, a highly modified Jb Aokp style rom, or any combination in between. These are not themes that you and in to get a look but actual changes in the framework and UI. Well enough pumping yall up for now time to get back in my kitchen and finish cooking up goodies.
I suggest yall take the time and check out my thread in the Dev section that is posted in the Op and also I am working on a thread in the general section to aid users in finding their way in the settings of this beast. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=2305750 It is a bit empty right now because I have been busy on a new kernel along with knocking out the last of the bugs in this things. Although I have 5 reserved post so you can bet it will be something big.
Time to run guys. Hopefully next time I drop by here I will have yall a couple of links to try out. Just remember that this will be a blind build. I do not own a streak myself but then again I dont own an evo shift and I was still able to make a simi-functional rom for them also. So keep your fingers crossed and we might just get lucky.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
Jlmancuso
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Wow...... that what I call a real dev, willing to make rom even you don't have the device. Don't worry, sure there were plenty tester would help you.
Beside that, here we have a few nice dev will give a hand. Sharing means caring.
Big thanks to you man, can't wait to test this nice rom.
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Hello there Streakers!!! This will be one of the greatest roms yall will ever run. I have been working on the Evo 4g version (Evo 3d, and Evo shift also in works) and it has been a huge hit. I have been very busy with those three and have not had a chance yet to give the streak a shot on compiling. I hope to have a few free hours this week to try and make a couple of builds for yall to test.
This is a beast of a rom and unfortunately the heart of it is not working in this port. The settings (main and CyanMobile) give you the ability to customize this rom in ways that no other rom before it has been able to do. It can look like a simple vanilla GB Aosp rom, a highly modified Jb Aokp style rom, or any combination in between. These are not themes that you and in to get a look but actual changes in the framework and UI. Well enough pumping yall up for now time to get back in my kitchen and finish cooking up goodies.
I suggest yall take the time and check out my thread in the Dev section that is posted in the Op and also I am working on a thread in the general section to aid users in finding their way in the settings of this beast. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=2305750 It is a bit empty right now because I have been busy on a new kernel along with knocking out the last of the bugs in this things. Although I have 5 reserved post so you can bet it will be something big.
Time to run guys. Hopefully next time I drop by here I will have yall a couple of links to try out. Just remember that this will be a blind build. I do not own a streak myself but then again I dont own an evo shift and I was still able to make a simi-functional rom for them also. So keep your fingers crossed and we might just get lucky.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
Jlmancuso
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Welcome aboard buddy, thank you willing to join us in ds development.
Really glad to know you will compile this rom for ds.
This rom really beast, so many customize features in it.
Can't wait to test it on my ds.
Once again, thank you buddy.
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nice... man.. i am drooling
Sweet!
I never thought I'd actually consider going back to GB... :laugh:
Looking foward to it, thanks for reviving our Streaks. I'm available to do testing if needed.
Do we have any progress?
Looking foward to it, thanks for this
Alright guys I am ready to start work on yalls rom. First off I have some of the source needed to make this but I am missing a few pieces. I will be looking through the development section tonight and trying to get the rest of what I need to start this project. If there are any dev's for the streak willing to team up on this I would be more than willing to make this a group project.
As yall already know ports are a very poor way (most times) to bring a rom to a new device. Porting brings more problems than anything else. With source things just work better the first time around. I have the source pretty much cleaned up and fixed just about every problem there was with the Og Evo. Now it is time to get this bad boy onto the Streak 5!!
Just for a preview of thing you can do with this rom come checkout the CyanMobile Map in my thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305750
Now onto the fun. Anyone who has done any source work with the Streak please hit me up on talk/hangouts ([email protected]).
jlmancuso said:
Alright guys I am ready to start work on yalls rom. First off I have some of the source needed to make this but I am missing a few pieces. I will be looking through the development section tonight and trying to get the rest of what I need to start this project. If there are any dev's for the streak willing to team up on this I would be more than willing to make this a group project.
As yall already know ports are a very poor way (most times) to bring a rom to a new device. Porting brings more problems than anything else. With source things just work better the first time around. I have the source pretty much cleaned up and fixed just about every problem there was with the Og Evo. Now it is time to get this bad boy onto the Streak 5!!
Just for a preview of thing you can do with this rom come checkout the CyanMobile Map in my thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305750
Now onto the fun. Anyone who has done any source work with the Streak please hit me up on talk/hangouts ([email protected]).
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I'll work with you. I'll hit you up on hangouts. I know alot in what I am doing and have a lot of the sources we need.
Thank you guys!
You are miracles!!!
giveen said:
I'll work with you. I'll hit you up on hangouts. I know alot in what I am doing and have a lot of the sources we need.
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That would be great, 2 devs join now, thank you giveen.
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I would be willing to help you guys with any source related questions you might have. Hangout me [email protected]
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Awesome ROM ahead!
@jlmancuso :laugh:
I read through the thread you shared.
AND - I really appreciate the work you have put in on this!
I am no developer / I can't code. ( only can manage around macros a little and few loops here n there )
But, I can test and report & pickup for this project!
Full time online and can report based on my usage.
Let me know - absolutely in any way - if I can be of assistance, I will be more than glad!
kudos to you - already! :good:
Sony.
besony said:
@jlmancuso :laugh:
I read through the thread you shared.
AND - I really appreciate the work you have put in on this!
I am no developer / I can't code. ( only can manage around macros a little and few loops here n there )
But, I can test and report & pickup for this project!
Full time online and can report based on my usage.
Let me know - absolutely in any way - if I can be of assistance, I will be more than glad!
kudos to you - already! :good:
Sony.
Sony.ony.
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Well thank you. The big thing I need right now are the proprietary files for the streak. I have been told that the streak is very similar to the evo 4g but without the actual files I am kind of stuck in the mud. I am downloading the cm7 roms posted in hopes that I can extract the needed files. So wish me luck cause the streak has almost no aftermarket support. It looks like a nice device but few have done much with it. I hope I can help out but only time will tell.
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Alright got all the files lined out and started the compiler. Hope to have the first batch of testers out end of this week or beginning of next! Some of the code has to be tweaked for the streak but not much
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Hello Everyone
I have come across device tree for Hima M9/CyanogenMod 12.1 with a custom Kernel. (If I'll tell you the name of either , you'd Google in a second)
The developer is a genius and trust me you'd see both of these within a month. Stay tuned for updates.
I can attach screenshots but I'd not post links as previous experiences that I had meant that people started troubling the developer and he quit the project all together. Respect the developers and read in my signature about development process and what it is actually like to be one.
This is just a confirmation and I can actually prove it to everyone who are interested.
I see many device tree updates every day so I am sure once CM12.1 is available officially, it'd open gates for all sorts of custom ROMs!
Attachments coming in few hours as I'm heading out
wow that would be awesome! cant wait to run a pure android rom on this beast
*all f***** fingers crossed*
Yay!
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Hello Everyone
I have come across device tree for Hima M9/CyanogenMod 12.1 with a custom Kernel. (If I'll tell you the name of either , you'd Google in a second)
The developer is a genius and trust me you'd see both of these within a month. Stay tuned for updates.
I can attach screenshots but I'd not post links as previous experiences that I had meant that people started troubling the developer and he quit the project all together. Respect the developers and read in my signature about development process and what it is actually like to be one.
This is just a confirmation and I can actually prove it to everyone who are interested.
I see many device tree updates every day so I am sure once CM12.1 is available officially, it'd open gates for all sorts of custom ROMs!
Attachments coming in few hours as I'm heading out
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The link below is to the thread which its being discussed in within m9 Q&A section. Rashid97 is the dev working on the project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/cyanogenmod-12-12-1-htc-one-m9-t3069920
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The link below is to the thread which its being discussed in within m9 Q&A section. Rashid97 is the dev working on the project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/cyanogenmod-12-12-1-htc-one-m9-t3069920
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aaronrw said:
Yay!
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sweetrobot said:
about ****ing time!!! so sick of the nonSense...
cm / aosp / aokp ftw.
paperweight for the last couple of months. tried a bunch of the existing roms, just not my cup of tea.
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k1moe said:
wow that would be awesome! cant wait to run a pure android rom on this beast
*all f***** fingers crossed*
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I am afraid that is not it what you are pointing out.
Here are the screenshots.
You can clearly see that how much commits are posted daily and it is going on at a very brisk rate. Cheer up everyone!
Request :
Just please do not trouble the developer if you find out who is he.
READ THIS HERE
Alternatively you can see more information in my signature!
Hnk1 said:
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS
INTRODUCTION
I am starting this forum in hope of educating my readers about ROM development according to my experiences. Further, I will highlight what is the usual developers' thought process before they decide to build a ROM for a specific device. The reasons why they usually choose a certain device or why they prefer one device over another would also be stated briefly. I also have intention of looking into ways how we can speed up ROM productions for any device and what you can do to play your part.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION FOR NO CUSTOM ROMS EVEN AFTER SOME MONTHS BUT THIS DOESNOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SPAM
I am sure many of you must be really disappointed by the lack of development for your device and I know this must be frustrating when we see other devices are getting ROMS so quickly. I know many are too excited when they find a little about any OTA/ Custom ROM and sharing such news is fully justified. However, it's beyond my logic & thinking why the forums are SPAMMED for any little information they might find anywhere regardless of their sources or if it has been ALREADY POSTED. I reckon many of these threads could have been avoided by simply searching in the forum.
ROM DEVELOPMENT
I can assure you that many develoeprs are working very hard to PORT and develop different ROMS for a device. However, the reason we can not see any CUSTOM roms till yet is due to complicated nature of a device itself.
Usually developers prefer a device which is :
1. Easy to work with, less complicated to code with or in other terms DEVELOPER friendly. For example, for a while I had a real issue with HTC phones as they have too many things to work with like Bootloader, S Lock, Radios, Hboot version etc while in Nexus devices you only need to unlock your device with one fastboot command. That's all and you are ready to flash ROMs.
2. Personal preference of Device. This simply means that we all have different tastes and thus we choose different devices. A certain developer might only work for a certain brand while other might work with few brands. This has nothing to do with anything but a personal choice.
3. A device that promises reward in terms of money/self satisfaction. Developers usually go for devices which have most active users so if their intention is also to get some money out of it in terms of donation, this will work well with devices which are more in number.
4. Knowledge about a certain brand more than another.
5. MONEY TO BUY A CERTAIN DEVICE/DEVICES. Suppose a developer wants to make ROMS for Xperia L/ SP/Z and Xperia U. Yet he only has 500 dollars to choose from. He then will have to make a choice between devices and this will eventually mean that not all of the devices get the same treatment. Money is the most decisive factor why a developer doesnot chose your device but rather another. For example purpose only, if I have to choose between devices, I might prefer SP over Xperia L as I can see more future of SP than Xperia L(I might be wrong).
6. Simply he bought a device or it is gifted/donated to him
SOME REQUESTS
Please STOP bugging developers by trivial questions. Just think how many other people ask the same question and it gets very frustrating to actually work on the device itself.
Every developer has a LIFE apart from developing ROMs. They also have a family, school, work, hobbies, bad days and so much like us. So they will do it when they feel like doing it. Just sit back and relax. Enjoy your device until developer releases the ROM for your device. Asking a REASONABLE question seems plausible but asking same questions/useless questions without using brains is just STUPID. Kindly refrain from that.
If you have seen a developer who has taken the initiative to work on your device , the best thing to do is to be patient. Let him concentrate. Spamming and spamming again won't help really.Yet some users start SPAMMING developers, their twitters, blogs and accounts. That's really sad. You can discuss on the forum what you think about it but IRKING developers isnot really cool.
WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP DEVELOPERS AND SEE CUSTOM ROMS.
1. Search the form first and look for answers. DON'T start new posts/questions/threads when it is ALREADY mentioned in some other section.
2. STOP PMing/SPAMING developers but rather ask a question WHICH havenot been asked before in the forum. Do not engage in the habit of making a new forum for everything. Try to keep threads as little as possible.
3. Follow developers and see what they have updated about on their official twitter,facebook,etc rather than bugging them on different forums/social websites.
4 DONATE THEM. DONATE THEM . DONATE THEM!
The amount of efforts they put, sitting for hours in front of their PCs and I know how frustrating it gets when you try to run commands and everything seems to work yet you can not boot up your ROM. And worse, you can not find WHY really. Just a change in line in build.prop results in failure of ROM to boot up and specially working from source to build ROM is really really tough. The best thing you can do is being supportive and patient !
A ROM development requires not just EXCESSIVE amount of hardwork, time, energy and dedication but also they need MONEY to actually buy devices and try it on. They are happy and encouraged to keep on developing ROMs when they see their efforts are not wasted and they are rewarded and respected for what they do.
SOME BASICS OF ROM DEVELOPMENT
Usually this is required to make a full custom ROM
Blobs which contain hardware information which comes from hardware manufacturer like Qualcomm in case of Snapdragon processors
A fully functional device tree
Latest Android source (Or the android version source you want to build for)
Specific Custom ROM coding which is based on Android Source
Usually a device tree and kernel tree is needed before custom roms can be made available. This is a long trial and error process in which every component of hardware is made functional as usually manufacturers do not provide any code for their devices and thus new code is to be written which is very frustrating and long process!
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Hnk1 said:
I am afraid that is not it what you are pointing out.
Here are the screenshots.
You can clearly see that how much commits are posted daily and it is going on at a very brisk rate. Cheer up everyone!
Request :
Just please do not trouble the developer if you find out who is he.
READ THIS HERE
Alternatively you can see more information in my signature!
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What i pointed is where the developer actually mentioned he his working on it and the link can be sourced by anyone, and people in that thread have been checking the github as mentioned. Theres now two threads on the discussion of cm12.1 which talk similar. All you are doing is not mentioning the dev based someone who used his work without his permission. Also to add the dev replied that thread to have to say they having working booting img just some features aren't working.
Link to his github for the current work
https://github.com/Hima-Dev/android_device_htc_hima-common
Thank GOD
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I'll be happy to donate
I'm really excited about this, because the person doing this is making amazing progress and at last count I want to say it was only Wi-Fi and one other thing not working with said developer already pretty certain that they know how to change that, it's just a lot of trial and error (any dev knows how frustrating it can be having to compile the source all over again to test a tiny change)
What this means for me, personally, is that I can do what I've done on past htc devices and knock out a fairly complete port of miui (some default miui stuff doesn't play nice during flash, like the camera app, so I'll likely include the stock m9 camera app as packaged for other phones so it doesn't rely on sense)
Anyway... ?
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What i pointed is where the developer actually mentioned he his working on it and the link can be sourced by anyone, and people in that thread have been checking the github as mentioned. Theres now two threads on the discussion of cm12.1 which talk similar. All you are doing is not mentioning the dev based someone who used his work without his permission. Also to add the dev replied that thread to have to say they having working booting img just some features aren't working.
Link to his github for the current work
https://github.com/Hima-Dev/android_device_htc_hima-common
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Cheers for side information. I know the developer and I'm pretty sure you'd get a kernel and Cm12.1 pretty soon.
Actually I Would let the developers sort out their differences themselves, for me it is Cm12.1 coming pretty soon.
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I'm really excited about this, because the person doing this is making amazing progress and at last count I want to say it was only Wi-Fi and one other thing not working with said developer already pretty certain that they know how to change that, it's just a lot of trial and error (any dev knows how frustrating it can be having to compile the source all over again to test a tiny change)
What this means for me, personally, is that I can do what I've done on past htc devices and knock out a fairly complete port of miui (some default miui stuff doesn't play nice during flash, like the camera app, so I'll likely include the stock m9 camera app as packaged for other phones so it doesn't rely on sense)
Anyway... ?
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Whhhaaatttttt?!?!?! Miui?!?!?
Wait
Galaxysm said:
Whhhaaatttttt?!?!?! Miui?!?!?
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Yeah. Once we have a reliable port of CM12, then porting other stuff is pretty easy. All I have to do is find a device that already has miui with the same resolution and dpi/ppi and port the assets over to the m9.
Preferably I'd like to port the miui patchrom so I can setup an automated build system to build a fresh copy every time aosp and miui are updated, but I don't have anywhere near enough time for that.
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Yeah. Once we have a reliable port of CM12, then porting other stuff is pretty easy. All I have to do is find a device that already has miui with the same resolution and dpi/ppi and port the assets over to the m9.
Preferably I'd like to port the miui patchrom so I can setup an automated build system to build a fresh copy every time aosp and miui are updated, but I don't have anywhere near enough time for that.
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Nice I can't wait!!
Nice to see this coming ... And for MIUI I haven't been able to use it since I change my original EVO ... It would be great to have it as an option ...
Great news
Daily reminder that CM12 is a desperately needed and coveted thingy for the m8+1.
Is it lollipop 5.1?
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vegetaleb said:
Is it lollipop 5.1?
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Cm12.1 is lolipop 5.1
Anyone knows the progress on this...
epedrosa said:
Anyone knows the progress on this...
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Be patient. The OP says "within a month" and it has only been roughly 2 weeks