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Winlink/Ownice Android head unit - 4.4.2

An Android 4.4.2 head unit
http://www.ownice.com/index.html
8" Quad Core Pure Android 4.4.2 Car DVD For Great Wall Hover H3 H5 DVD Player GPS Navigation Built-in WiFi Support OBD TPMS
(red is optional)
1. Pure Android 4.4.2 OS, HD 800*480/1024*600 Capacitive Screen
2. Super Hardware Performance, Cortex A9 Quad Core 1.6GHz-1.8GHz
3. Fast Response, Built in DDR3 1GB/2GB RAM, 8GB/16GB NAND Flash
4. Internet Entertainment, Built-in WiFi Module & Support 3G (Optional)
5. 3D Live Wallpaper & DIY Wallpaper, Plentiful Color of Button Light
6. Support DVR/OBD/TPMS/Rear Camera/Digital TV
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From thread
Ownice C200 Video: http://youtu.be/ZXW9CohjB44
Ownice C200 Manual: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mlqit93tb81vjyu/Android_C200_Manual.pdf?dl=0
Ownice C200 System update: youtu.be/yVG7rE5Zsos
Ownice C200 Factory reset: youtu.be/LK7xBBdSCuU
Review by "cartemere": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58891306&postcount=372
FAQ
Tell me what you want here
Firmwares
V1 : manufacture date before 28th January 2015
V2 : manufacture date on or after 28th January 2015 Until ???
V3 : ???

Waiting anxiously to hear about these

I have wrote to them twice, no reply. Seams not serious.

That is not a good sign.
Looks like they may have been at an expo the last few days though, so that may be why. Though that begs the question, are they a one man band/startup company?

dmandn said:
That is not a good sign.
Looks like they may have been at an expo the last few days though, so that may be why. Though that begs the question, are they a one man band/startup company?
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Did you try contacting [email protected] or [email protected] ? ....Seems weird they have two company names and details on one site though.

[email protected] and thru Alibaba "Contact seller", maybe you could try th other one Seams fundamental wrong to make the effort to put up iteams at alibaba and don't reply sales question (wonder how they handle support questions ).
Maybe they selling OEM products and brand them, hopefully there is a OEM product that will reach other, more serious, resellers.

SWEUP said:
[email protected] and thru Alibaba "Contact seller", maybe you could try th other one Seams fundamental wrong to make the effort to put up iteams at alibaba and don't reply sales question (wonder how they handle support questions ).
Maybe they selling OEM products and brand them, hopefully there is a OEM product that will reach other, more serious, resellers.
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Trying to access winlink-tech.com website redirects to Ownice.com site so I think they have changed their name for some reason......that is another thing I'd be worried about.

Well, just got a reply.
"Dear *****,
"Thank you for your inquiry. We just come back from the Global Source Electronics Fair in HK.
The Android 4.4.2 car navigation devices listed on our website are the newest series with CPU quad core.
We are the first one who has already made the samples, but mass production will be started next month which
means that we will start to sell this new devices next month, thank you for your attention.
For OL-8901 Volkswagen and OL-8906NH units , do you buy for your own car or for re-sell?
Please tell us your quantity then I will send you the offer
and tell you when we will have it, thank you!
Video Link for our new Device:http://youtu.be/ZXW9CohjB44
If you need it in a hurry, please let us know, then we can recommend the same Android 4.2 products for you!
Best regards,
Sherry
Facebook/VK:[email protected]
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Shenzhen Winlink technology Limited
Office:121-1212B Hua Tong Bldg.,2127 SunGuang East Rd., LuoHu District, ShenZhen
Factory: 6/F, Block 1, LiCheng Industrial Park, XinHe Road., ShaJing Ave., Bao'an District, ShenZhen
Tel:0086 075583851810 QQ:2119869764
Website: www.ownice.com; www.winlink-tech.com"

Nice, guess you had more luck then me to get reply from them. I will ask geekbuying if they will be able to sell thru them.

SWEUP said:
Nice, guess you had more luck then me to get reply from them. I will ask geekbuying if they will be able to sell thru them.
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Yeah its been a few days though, they did say they only just got back from the expo. Looks like the email is answered only by Sherry (maybe one of the only english speaking in the company?? Not sure). At least it is looking more promising.

dmandn said:
Yeah its been a few days though, they did say they only just got back from the expo. Looks like the email is answered only by Sherry (maybe one of the only english speaking in the company?? Not sure). At least it is looking more promising.
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Well they have been actively emailing replies on a daily basis since, not that much info has been in the emails.

Has anybody already ordered from them, or at least got a quote?
I am also in contact with Sherry and would like to buy the OL-8901 unit. She told me that 1024x600 and larger memory (32/64GB) is optional. I am waiting for a quote and details on how to buy from them...

Very interested in this.
I've just sent a message to 'Elaine' via Alibaba asking for a price for one for my E53, also asking for a screenshot of the settings/about screen.
Let's see what she says!

Well, Eric has replied with pretty much the same email as on the first page.
Unfortunately he also says they will be available 'next month'. I don't know if he realises it's now November or their ETA has already slipped a month.

Hi all, i am waiting to get the one of this OWNICE C200 unit... but i hope i am not disappointed after driving my car around without no HU waiting and it not what was promise

just bought mine today, too.
Hopefully it will be a nice piece of technology with a good interface and performance.
Bought it directly from Ownice.
FYI:
Ownice is their new brand (POC --> Elaine)
Winlink is their old brand (POC --> Elaine)
Carwin is their distributor
There are all represent at aliexpress, so don't be surprised if there all have the same unit with different prices. Ownice was the cheapest...

Will be really interesting to read your feedback. I'm a bit sceptic to their optional accessories (resolution, ram), would be better to have 1024 and 2GB as only option.

SWEUP said:
Will be really interesting to read your feedback. I'm a bit sceptic to their optional accessories (resolution, ram), would be better to have 1024 and 2GB as only option.
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The resolution upgrade is only available for 8 inch or greater. I have the 6,2 inch display so there was no option to upgrade, still bought the RAM and flash upgrade
Hopefully this will fit into my car (civic european version fk2 2007)

I was hoping to see some video of the HU in action. I don't want to buy a pig in a bag.. china is a long way from South America so sending it back is out of the question.
What will be nice if someone from Ownice can post on this forum. I have a question about booting animation car logo, can it be change to your own car logo?

Here you can see something about the UI ht tp:// youtu. be/ZXW9CohjB44

Difference between those 3 android 8.0 head units

I've decided to buy a double din universal 7" android 8.0 head unit. After 3 days of researching i came across those 3 as the best.
I'd like to know which one do you guys recommend.
Thanks a lot.
Xtrons TE706PL
EONON GA2170
Auto Pumpkin

im also interested..

even though i like hard Buttons and vol knob more than sw Buttons, i would go with the xtrons
If you look on the backsind of the Units, xtrons has defenetly the best buildt quality.
Inside they are pretty much the same
Interesting to know what Kind of amp chip and Radio chip is used.
Thats my oppinion

Differences? Probably none.
But beware, not one of them runs Android 8. They just change a few strings to make it look like they do for marketing purposes.

luciusfox said:
Differences? Probably none.
But beware, not one of them runs Android 8. They just change a few strings to make it look like they do for marketing purposes.
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Are you sure about this? what is the actual version then?

I'll have my xtrons next week I'll report back then
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I ordered the Pumpkin Auto, so will also report my results.

soudy1994 said:
Are you sure about this? what is the actual version then?
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Usually somewhere between 5.1 and 6.0.
The user interface they present is a dead giveaway.
The interface that Android 8 presents should look very similar to Android Auto.

jvloyola said:
I'll have my xtrons next week I'll report back then
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packetjunkie said:
I ordered the Pumpkin Auto, so will also report my results.
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Please guys don't forget to share your opinion when you receive them. Thanks a lot.

Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.

packetjunkie said:
Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.
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I haven't heard of any android ivi's being made in USA. Care to share who they are?
I actually gave up completely on getting anything decent in a "ready to go" form.
Went this route instead; https://github.com/HiKey960-Car
And somebody pointed out this really neat 10" display that would be really nice with it:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0776VNW9C

luciusfox said:
I haven't heard of any android ivi's being made in USA. Care to share who they are?
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https://insaneaudio.com/product/insane-audio-jk2001/
These folks are based in California and build their units in the USA.

packetjunkie said:
https://insaneaudio.com/product/insane-audio-jk2001/
These folks are based in California and build their units in the USA.
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Uh, THAT is an ENORMOUS markup on an MTCD PX5. Look at the UI and the specifications.

Looks like not only audio, but prices are insane as well. Are we insane enough to go for it? .

packetjunkie said:
https://insaneaudio.com/product/insane-audio-jk2001/
These folks are based in California and build their units in the USA.
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That looks just like the eBay ones .. doubt it's made in the USA...

These days many US made products are built from parts from China, so maybe they get their head units from there and then modify/customize them here in the USA. From an economics perspective, it would make sense since getting all the parts to build them entirely here is likely not possible. I did speak to them and they have a US based operation. I also believe they are doing the OS work for their units.

packetjunkie said:
These days many US made products are built from parts from China, so maybe they get their head units from there and then modify/customize them here in the USA. From an economics perspective, it would make sense since getting all the parts to build them entirely here is likely not possible. I did speak to them and they have a US based operation. I also believe they are doing the OS work for their units.
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If they were doing OS work, it wouldn't have the same old really crappy chinese UI.
I'm sure that they're US based, but they're a US based "logo" and reselling company. They order the "out of the box" MTCD units with a custom logo printed on it and call it good.

packetjunkie said:
Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.
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Nfc stickers(what I'm using) or use Tasker with root.

Brand EONON, Suck do not purchase this brand, I purchase 3 touch screen stereo the most expensive in-dash they have, 6 yrs. ago they suck, the eonon almost burn my wires on my mk5 VW, 3 yrs ago, so 3 yrs later should be enough time for EONON to fix all the bugs so I order ga5153a for my Mk5, fck drove my car windows crazy,
now I have mk6 2010 Golf GTI, Bought Ga7185A, this one drove both my windows, locking system and alarm crazy, and BTW all of eonon stereos, when going into EQ settings and want to hear the back speaker only, would not work, all speakers wires in the eonon stereos, are connected to only left and right no back speakers. this Chinese don't care if you burn your car or not, you can't sue them since their in the 3rd country.

packetjunkie said:
Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.
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macrodroid ftw

Is my head unit shows fake info?

Hi, I bough new head unit from aliexpress, and I would like to know is these info from CPUz ale correct or fake, because it shows it has Android 10, but Api level is 27 which means Android 8.1., also in system info is this line:
FINGERPRINT: alps/full_8227L_demo/8227L_demo:8.1.0/O11019/1571038753:userdebug/test-keys
Can be cpuz faked?
here is speclist from spec device app
http://www.specdevice.com/showspec.php?id=a377-d4f6-f943-1fe50033c587
Thanks

bump, please I need to know because time of opening dispute running out

Maverickky said:
bump, please I need to know because time of opening dispute running out
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Hi there, I have also purchased an Android 10 headunit from aliexpress which I believe may in fact be an android 8.1/9 system. The product I purchased was a seicane h6032n however the seicane official website shows that the only product which resembles mine that they make is an android 8.1 or 9 unit. I believe that the reseller has falsely advertised and it is possible for the info to show an android version other than the installed true version. I believe you should open up a fispute asap. I will confirm this myself when I get my unit in 2 weeks and if necessary will request a refund due to the false advertising of the product.

Yes I opened a dispute before few minutes. I searched a lot on internet and here on xda and didnt found head unit with Android 10. Only with 9.1 max... So I really believe it must be fake value. I actually paid little bit more for this unit just because I believed its Android 10... So will see if they give me some refund

Do someone have experience with disputes and providing evidence?
They wrote me from Ali that I must provide high-quality evidence that clearly showcases the differences between the received product and what was displayed or described by the seller.
And I dont know what they want me to do, I already uploaded photos from CPU-Z where is Android version 10, but its fake value, because Api level is 27, which means its Android 8.1, Android 10 have Api level 29. And its not enough for them...

Maverickky said:
Do someone have experience with disputes and providing evidence?
They wrote me from Ali that I must provide high-quality evidence that clearly showcases the differences between the received product and what was displayed or described by the seller.
And I dont know what they want me to do, I already uploaded photos from CPU-Z where is Android version 10, but its fake value, because Api level is 27, which means its Android 8.1, Android 10 have Api level 29. And its not enough for them...
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You should link them to the official seicane website and point out that if the actual manufacturer/company 'Seicane' does not sell an android 10 unit that matches your headunit then how is it they are selling you an android 10 headunit. In my case I have looked around and cannot find a product that is the exact same from Seicane official website that has android 10, only android 8.1 and 9. Try looking for more apps that can show you your android version, get a whole bunch of screenshots from different apps and send it to them proving it is being picked up as an android 8.1 unit

But I dont have seicane, I have this one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32951172235.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.c40f6493fosqcR
And they dont have any oficial website
But will try to send them more screenshots

just for let you know, Ali refunded me 52 dollars from total cost of 260 dollars, Iam ok with that result

Did you find any app that shows the real hardware/android info, mine shows android 10 but I know its 6.0, also the device shows 2GB ram but only has 1. Thanks

yes, you can use cpuz, aida or spec device, all of these showed me real hardware expect version of android. They showed me it is Android 10, but Api level was 27, which mean its 8.1, because android 10 have APi level 29. And I believe that APi level cannot be faked, so look what APi u have, if it is Api 23, than its Android 6

Maverickky said:
yes, you can use cpuz, aida or spec device, all of these showed me real hardware expect version of android. They showed me it is Android 10, but Api level was 27, which mean its 8.1, because android 10 have APi level 29. And I believe that APi level cannot be faked, so look what APi u have, if it is Api 23, than its Android 6
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Thanks for your reply,
Well, API level corresponds to the android 10 but it's not, apparently, they found a way to change it too, CPU Z is showing 2GB ram too, but even when I open 10 or 15 apps at the same time, ram usage stays static at 45% used.

Thats interesting, I didnt know that it can be faked too.
It would be good if someone knows how to get the right values, if all these apps can be faked

I just tested my ram with app called RAM Truth, and as you can see in the photos, seems like 675 mb of my ram is used as cache memory, thats why system using just half.
In my case, doesnt matter how many apps I have running available 37 percent of RAM
ANd I have no idea where to change it, or if its good to have this cache memory
https://imgur.com/a/OmHYECT

Send them back, dont enable these scammers.

Its not that easy, I already payed customs, and sending it back would be another customs + post, Ali offered me only 20 dollars coupon if I send it back... and Android version doesnt mean so much for me, atleast they refunded me 52 dollars for that. If I had only 1GB ram version I would definitely send it back or want atleast 75 percent refund...

I'm currently also dealing with an AlliExpress seller, that sold me an Android head-unit with false Android version. Just like in your case: it's running Android 8.1 instead of Android 10.
First I provided photos of the outcome of CPU-Z and Fake Device Test: but AlliExpress asked me, to provide more details. So I made a video, where I go from the home screen to settings. Show the fake Android version and then open Fake Device Test, which shows its running Android 8.x
Also edited the photos, and described what I'm pointing out. And included the product pictures, of the product I bought. The device it self runs okayish, for Android Auto use and using built-in apps. But running apps like Google Maps on the device itself, that's a bit to slow. So I will be only using it for the reverse camera and Android Auto.
I wouldn't recommend getting these Quad-Core headunits: because I had good experience with Nexus 7 which run on a Quad-Core A9, which should similar in performance of a Arm A7 nowadays. That's why I though, it couldn't be that bad.
But Nexus 7 was running Android 4 and this is running Android 8.x and it seems, many Android apps are requiring more performance from the system. That's why you should pick atleast Octacore, if you wish to run these apps straight from the device.
AlliExpress also firstly gave as a solution to send it back: but I don't consider it a solution, because I wouldn't have ordered it in the first place if the seller was honest about Android version. So I'm also hoping to get a partial refund, the best would be full refund. But the device is still useable, for the purpose I originally wanted it for.

What kind of system do I have and what can I do with it?

Hello everybody,
I recently bought and installed a new head unit as an infotainment system for my car. Now I'm wondering what kind of operating system this is and what options I have to adapt it. I'm brand new to the Android Automotive world and trying to get an overview. I can't quite make sense of the information I can find in the settings (see screenshots). It seems to be based on Android 10, but I've read about version 12. Also, it installed a pretty bad launcher. I've tried others but would be interested to see how google's vanilla stock launcher would look like. But since I couldn't find one, I got even more confused. I am also surprised that the so-called security updates seem to be several years old, but are considered up-to-date (no updates).
Even if this sounds very clueless, can you help me to orientate myself? Are there maybe custom roms that I would have to exchange?
Many thanks in advance!
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Can anyone really try to help me with this problem?

What problem? Trying to find thr stock luancher? I think there is no built in launcher with android for cars. You can find custom ones on the play store.
Since you get no updates, you rpoboably bought a outdated device.

Okay, I would like to simply upgrade to a current firmware. I may not have made that very clear. I don't know much about such head units. Is this different from smartphones where I need a special build for a device to flash the ROM? I'm confused because I couldn't find out anything except the SoC name.

Rotblitz said:
Okay, I would like to simply upgrade to a current firmware. I may not have made that very clear. I don't know much about such head units. Is this different from smartphones where I need a special build for a device to flash the ROM? I'm confused because I couldn't find out anything except the SoC name.
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Are you sure this is not the latest firmware. If not, you can use fastboot to push a update.

No, I have absolutely no idea what versions are available and if I have the latest one. How do I find that out?
In other words, even if the manufacturer doesn't offer any updates itself, is it possible to flash your own "roms"? So they have to be specifically compatible with the head unit, or are there generally valid ones? As I said: I know very little about this area :-(

Rotblitz said:
In other words, even if the manufacturer doesn't offer any updates itself, is it possible to flash your own "roms"? So they have to be specifically compatible with the head unit, or are there generally valid ones? As I said: I know very little about this area :-(
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The rom has to be made for your device, and even that’s not all, it has to be made for your Model (certain models of the same device may not be supported). Google your device rom to see if there are any and if there are, confirm that they support your model.

Ok, thank you in advance for the support.
How do I get the device name out? You can see my screenshots above. The only thing I can read from the device is the name of the SoC.
Since I bought it from a dealer on Ebay, who also didn't provide any further information, I can't read it from him or the packaging either.

Does it not say you device name when you click on about in settings?

The device name seems to be a Qualcomm chip name. Can you link me to the listing?
Probably off-brand, as not brand would name their device a chip. If it’s off brand, prob no custom rom.
I misread something, is this your device?
Wow, 2 mistakes in a row, I did not misread something. Can I see the listing?

Unfortunately no, the seller has withdrawn the offer. I checked myself earlier whether I can still read the offer text from my account in order to read out information. I have emailed the seller and am hoping for a reply.
What you said about the no-name brands sounds logical. There are an infinite number of such devices on the net - most of them look very similar, at least in terms of appearance and connection technology. The only thing these offers have in common is the processor name. That's why I always hoped that there would be universally compatible roms that would enable new features. But the way you describe it, it seems like I don't need to get my hopes up too high.

Rotblitz said:
Unfortunately no, the seller has withdrawn the offer. I checked myself earlier whether I can still read the offer text from my account in order to read out information. I have emailed the seller and am hoping for a reply.
What you said about the no-name brands sounds logical. There are an infinite number of such devices on the net - most of them look very similar, at least in terms of appearance and connection technology. The only thing these offers have in common is the processor name. That's why I always hoped that there would be universally compatible roms that would enable new features. But the way you describe it, it seems like I don't need to get my hopes up too high.
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Is there anything on the bottom of the box?

Arealhooman said:
Is there anything on the bottom of the box?
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I'll check later when I'm home! I'll give you feedback then!
The offer from the dealer is no longer online, but there is a very similar offer for a different type of car from the same dealer here:
Für Skoda Octavia Fabia Praktik Yeti Superb 8" Touch Android GPS Navi CarPlay 4262370642976 | eBay
Entdecken Sie Für Skoda Octavia Fabia Praktik Yeti Superb 8" Touch Android GPS Navi CarPlay in der großen Auswahl bei eBay. Kostenlose Lieferung für viele Artikel!
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I cant learn anything from that.

Yes that is what I thought. The offer does not show any important information. By the way: I would have no problem installing a new head unit from a well-known manufacturer. The fact that I did that with the device in question a year ago was because I had no idea and because it came as a complete kit (that is, including a CAN bus adapter, bezel, etc. ...). However, I do not know where I can find good devices for my Skoda Fabia 2015, or what other options I have.

Rotblitz said:
Yes that is what I thought. The offer does not show any important information. By the way: I would have no problem installing a new head unit from a well-known manufacturer. The fact that I did that with the device in question a year ago was because I had no idea and because it came as a complete kit (that is, including a CAN bus adapter, bezel, etc. ...). However, I do not know where I can find good devices for my Skoda Fabia 2015, or what other options I have.
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Aren’t all head unita compatible with all cars. Search for one from a known manufacturer, and for good value for cash.

your seller seems very shady. This may not even be android 10. Mind checking with this

If you are unable to install it, that means the scammer blocked the app, and it is fake. Otherwise, this will tell you your real android version and other things if it being spoofed?

Help Identifying my Chinese Android Head Unit

I think, based on other posts I've found on here, that I'm on the way to identifying the manufacturer of the head unit I just bought off E-Bay. The seller doesn't know the manufacturer, and the poorly translated manual is not much help in identifying which company manufactured it. I'm trying to find better directions for hooking up the backup camera, as well as configuring the Steering Wheel Controls for my 2013 Kia Optima to work with this unit.
I've attached the photos from the relevant "About this unit" screens I can find.
Thanks for any input you may have.
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carrollraymc said:
I think, based on other posts I've found on here, that I'm on the way to identifying the manufacturer of the head unit I just bought off E-Bay. The seller doesn't know the manufacturer, and the poorly translated manual is not much help in identifying which company manufactured it. I'm trying to find better directions for hooking up the backup camera, as well as configuring the Steering Wheel Controls for my 2013 Kia Optima to work with this unit.
I've attached the photos from the relevant "About this unit" screens I can find.
Thanks for any input you may have.View attachment 5806803View attachment 5806805
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Well... I fear that this unit is a fake.
You can check that with the app Fake Device Test on your unit.
I fear that your unit is not even Android 10 due to the old and outdated CPU in this unit.
To figure out which manufacture assembled this device is quite difficult. At least not important to know.
Important to know is the MCU and the current Firmware in use.
To find more information about the sort of Allwinner device you own, just use the search, I linked.
Regarding backup camera:
Does your car has an OEM backup camera, or do you want to use any aftermarket solution?
Regarding Steering wheel buttons:
Is your new head unit equipped with a CAN box?

rigattoni said:
Well... I fear that this unit is a fake.
You can check that with the app Fake Device Test on your unit.
I fear that your unit is not even Android 10 due to the old and outdated CPU in this unit.
To figure out which manufacture assembled this device is quite difficult. At least not important to know.
Important to know is the MCU and the current Firmware in use.
To find more information about the sort of Allwinner device you own, just use the search, I linked.
Regarding backup camera:
Does your car has an OEM backup camera, or do you want to use any aftermarket solution?
Regarding Steering wheel buttons:
Is your new head unit equipped with a CAN box?
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It came with a backup camera. It's missing the backup camera cable, but the seller is *supposed* to be sending a replacement cable.
It's funny, but the listing mentioned Android 12. Hmmm.
I don't know about a CAN box. I'm a relative newcomer to Android Head Units, so I don't know what's involved in getting such a unit up and running. I'll look into the app you mentioned. Thanks.

rigattoni said:
Well... I fear that this unit is a fake.
You can check that with the app Fake Device Test on your unit.
I fear that your unit is not even Android 10 due to the old and outdated CPU in this unit.
To figure out which manufacture assembled this device is quite difficult. At least not important to know.
Important to know is the MCU and the current Firmware in use.
To find more information about the sort of Allwinner device you own, just use the search, I linked.
Regarding backup camera:
Does your car has an OEM backup camera, or do you want to use any aftermarket solution?
Regarding Steering wheel buttons:
Is your new head unit equipped with a CAN box?
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If this unit indeed turns out to be not what it's advertised (i.e., fake) is it worth investing time in getting everything running, or should I throw in the towel, reset it and open a case with EBay?

carrollraymc said:
It came with a backup camera. It's missing the backup camera cable, but the seller is *supposed* to be sending a replacement cable.
It's funny, but the listing mentioned Android 12. Hmmm.
I don't know about a CAN box. I'm a relative newcomer to Android Head Units, so I don't know what's involved in getting such a unit up and running. I'll look into the app you mentioned. Thanks.
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May be make some pictures from the whole stuff you got with the unit....
Which car is it built in? Was it special for your car and MY?

carrollraymc said:
If this unit indeed turns out to be not what it's advertised (i.e., fake) is it worth investing time in getting everything running, or should I throw in the towel, reset it and open a case with EBay?
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Please show pictures of the outcome of the Fake Device Test.

rigattoni said:
Please show pictures of the outcome of the Fake Device Test.
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I sure will. I've already put it in the Google Play Store queue to install on the unit in my car when I get ready to head home, and get my hotspot going.
Thanks.

I did run the Fake Device Checker app, and it reported the OS as Android 8, not the Android 11 the listing said, nor Android 12 the phone reported to the "About system" section of the settings in the flavor of Android it was running. So, I have already initiated the return process. I did a factory reset on the device before I pulled it out of the vehicle. Just waiting on the return shipping label to send the return in. In the process of pulling it out of the vehicle, I did find the missing cable for the backup camera, so at least it will be returned with everything it came with.
I'm going to do some more research before I pull the trigger on another purchase of an Android Head Unit. I didn't realize I was purchasing a fake unit until you brought up the issue. I think I'll be steering clear of no-name units, and go for a more known brand.

The fact the android version is faked doesn't mean that it can't be a good unit though. What did 'Fake device Test' say about the 2g and 32G, did it confirm they're not faked? (That's a good app, BTW). I bought three 2G/32G AC8227l units from an Ali Express seller and they're fine so yours might be OK unless there's some app you really need a later android version to run.

Mr.TT_NZ said:
The fact the android version is faked doesn't mean that it can't be a good unit though. What did 'Fake device Test' say about the 2g and 32G, did it confirm they're not faked? (That's a good app, BTW). I bought three 2G/32G AC8227l units from an Ali Express seller and they're fine so yours might be OK unless there's some app you really need a later android version to run.
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Right...
Nevertheless for me it´s a scam to sell units with a faked Android version.
At least for me, I would not accept that.
I´m still waiting for a seller who delivers a head unit with Android 21, just because he made a typo.

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rigattoni said:
Right...
Nevertheless for me it´s a scam to sell units with a faked Android version.
At least for me, I would not accept that.
I´m still waiting for a seller who delivers a head unit with Android 21, just because he made a typo.
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That's what I'm thinking. It wasn't what was advertised. Doesn't matter if it "runs ok" under the faked version. The fact that it's fake says enough.

...and now I've heard from the seller on my return request. He/she is offering a partial refund. They admit it's Android 8, but "can be upgraded" to a newer version (I have my doubts about that, because it never found an update when I'd check for updates to Android - which stands to reason since the OS version is fudged.) Rather than process the return, they are offering a partial refund.
It *did* run ok when I had it installed. It was a bit slow to get some of the apps up and running (usually iHeart Radio and Waze mostly), but it did run ok. I did use it under Android Auto, and that *was* nice. Since I do have all the items it shipped with, including the necessary hardware to hook up the backup camera, I'm tempted to keep it. Yes, it's running an older version of Android than what was listed, but since I'm not doing online banking or reading my e-mail on it, I don't know that the lack of security updates is much of a concern for a device like this.
The only thing that doesn't work with it right now is the steering wheel controls, for which I understand an additional piece of equipment is necessary.

I bought one knowing the Android version was fake, I knew it was 10 not 11 but concentrated on getting the best bang for buck on the RAM and Memory eg 8/128. Apps start very fast and no performance issues so far.

kommando said:
I bought one knowing the Android version was fake, I knew it was 10 not 11 but concentrated on getting the best bang for buck on the RAM and Memory eg 8/128. Apps start very fast and no performance issues so far.
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Yes, that´s okay in this case, as you own already an 8 core unit.
The quad core units are slower and have more problems with multi threading software. Playing DAB+, running navigation and in foreground something else, that could be an issue.
carrollraymc said:
The only thing that doesn't work with it right now is the steering wheel controls, for which I understand an additional piece of equipment is necessary.
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Yes, you may need a CAN box for this to get working, if your SWC buttons are provided by the CAN.

Well, after considering everything, and your point about the quad core vs octa core units, I'm thinking I'm going to decline the offer of a partial refund, and insist on returning it. The seller *knew* it wasn't running Android 11 like they posted in the listing, and *knew* it was really running Android 8. That sealed the deal for me. I'm going to decline the offer of a partial refund, and insist on returning it.
The big thing I did like about this unit, was that it came with the trim panel for my dashboard that I needed to install it. If I get a name brand unit, I'll have to order all the necessary parts seperately, for the most part.
The other thing my wife and I were considering is that we have a Sirius/XM Satellite radio subscription. Yes, we have access via the app, but on long trips, we may end up in areas where the mobile data connection is non-existant. So, I'm thinking we're going to look for a unit that's Sirius/XM radio ready, get the Sirius box we need, as well as whatever we need to mount it and to enable the steering wheel controls, and end up with a better setup all the way around.
At least I know it's possible to have a decent radio/entertainment system in this car. I just have to be more particular about what I put in it.

On AliExpress you will find frames on their own from makers such as Skyframe for most models.

kommando said:
I bought one knowing the Android version was fake, I knew it was 10 not 11 but concentrated on getting the best bang for buck on the RAM and Memory eg 8/128. Apps start very fast and no performance issues so far.
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That's good for you, but as the other poster pointed out, the unit I ended up with is a quad core unit, and does have some performance issues. It ran, and did ok, but it was slow at times. I'm going to insist on returning this unit, and find a better one. I think I'm going to stick with a name brand, rather than one of the generic chinese units where you don't know who actually manufactured the unit. Name brand units aren't likely to be falsifying the operating system version that's installed on the system.

carrollraymc said:
That's good for you, but as the other poster pointed out, the unit I ended up with is a quad core unit, and does have some performance issues. It ran, and did ok, but it was slow at times. I'm going to insist on returning this unit, and find a better one. I think I'm going to stick with a name brand, rather than one of the generic chinese units where you don't know who actually manufactured the unit. Name brand units aren't likely to be falsifying the operating system version that's installed on the system.
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Good choice...
If I would be you, I would have a look into the FYT forum
These units are known good and mostly also available var specific.

carrollraymc said:
Name brand units aren't likely to be falsifying the operating system version that's installed on the system.
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My FYT is a fake android 11, the sellers either get FYT to change the version in the software or do it themselves. Anyway if you buy a fake version off Aliexpress then raise a dispute on receipt asking for 25% and with the right evidence you will get a counter offer of 20%.

kommando said:
My FYT is a fake android 11, the sellers either get FYT to change the version in the software or do it themselves. Anyway if you buy a fake version off Aliexpress then raise a dispute on receipt asking for 25% and with the right evidence you will get a counter offer of 20%.
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If you buy a FYT unit at Joying (as example) you won´t get a fake Android version. It always is a point of the reseller, because they fake that. I never buy any units at any reseller. They are not able to support, they have no clue what they are selling and ... let´s say it like that: It´s no problem for the reseller to mark Android 10 as Android 13. It´s just a quick change of one digit in the firmware.
They just do it to make the unit more interesting for buyer who are not that familiar with their doing.... and they are successful as we see daily in this forum. They often also lie about the used RAM and ROM, so I don´t trust anyone on Ali.