Those who updated to OOS Android 12 - Is it still bad? - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

See title. Thinking again about updating now that we have another update out in C11 (I believe this is the most recent).
Would you if you had to chance to stay on Android 11? Still very much on the fence.

I haven't had the time or energy to do a clean install, so maybe these issues wouldn't show up normally but here is my experience so far:
1. Forcing the hz to be always 120 is no longer as simple and must be reset every boot
2. Also custom dpi must be set every boot
3. Widgets sizes are all off, some too big and some too small.
4. Always on display is forced on, and almost always doesn't turn on for about 20 seconds when taken out of a pocket, forcing a press of the power button.
5. When always on display doesn't show the fingerprint icon (either configured or after a few seconds), fingerprint scanning won't activate
6. Aptx TWS+ simply doesn't work anymore. Defaults to notmal aptx or aptx hd
7. Reply in floating window doesn't function at all
8. Notifications that are unread but still in the drawer don't show up on the lockscreen
The new fingerprint animations are dope though

crDroid 8.4 is running really nice!

There a couple things I don't like. The new animations are good and a change of system sounds/ringtone is nice. The UI is mostly a sidegrade if not a downgrade in utility. I felt the same going from 10 to 11 and now 11 to 12. I guess I will just get used to it.
What I don't like is the horrendous navigation buttons. What idiot at OnePlus thought it would be a good idea to space out the nav buttons an inch apart? Makes reaching my thumb over (and I have big hands) a pain in the ass. It looks stupid as **** too. I had to switch to gesture navigation mode because of this. Also they added crap like shelf and the qualcomm voice thing/quick device connect which are annoying as I couldn't get rid of the notifications. I tried turning quick device connect off in settings and it wouldn't work. had to mute the notification.
Also in recents/multitasking when I hit close all apps it should close all apps but instead it goes back to the app I was using. This is annoying as I developed the habit of closing all apps and shutting of my phone in a clean slate.
I will do a follow up post of bugs as I encounter them

Thanks for the responses guys. It's shocking to me that widely released software has this many issues still. I may just stay on A11 then. I am eyeing the Pixel 7 in Sept/Oct and I'll leave OP behind at that point. It was a good run.

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10 things that I hate about Gingerbread!

I really wonder why there is none of such thread here!
Gingerbread unfortunately brought only bad things to my Nexus. I already forgot why I was so crazy about installing it.
What feature did it introduce again?
Okay the response is much better and everything seems faster...but with lots of bugs?
That screen off animation? Seriously?
Things that I hate now:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
MOD EDIT: Borderline trolling removed. If you switch OSes, that's your own choice. No one here is stopping you.
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1. Battery Time
2. Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
3. notification led: you know...
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4. Blank keyboard- fixed by switching to another keyboard and back again, or a reset
5. Blank Launcher- fixed with reset
6. In the stock SMS app a long press>delete conversation doesn't always delete the selected conversation; sometimes you have to do it twice.
As far as battery goes, my display is still the thing that takes up the most battery (which is normal) but I had been experiencing severe declines in battery life. Does the switch to 32-bit color require more processing power and therefore battery?
I *#*#4636#*#*>phone information and saw it was set to WCDMA preferred. I remember playing with the option when froyo came out but didn't remember what it was set to (Maybe Gingerbread reset the option...?). I changed it to GSM PRL (Auto), and have experienced increases in battery life, as my phone isn't hunting for 3G all the time- it uses a service provided list of tower locations.
The LED REALLY bugs me.
Hate about Gingerbread
No trackball wake
Juice Defender Doesn't work (but Green Power does - works well but with less flexibility than JD)
Short battery life
Useless keyboard selection gimmicks
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
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Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???
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To be fair, the OP did mention about switching to Apple.
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GldRush98 said:
Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???
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auto update never worked for me, even in froyo.
-Battery with CM7 roms
-Trackball wake blocked in non-CM7 roms
-More difficult to mod themes like statusbar (before we just had to change a png and now we have to edit a bunch of files)
So in summary GB roms are still not stable and complete, they have either TB wake missing or poor battery life too
My annoying issues?
- 2 second mic mute after I answer a call
- stock launcher choking after a while
Less annoying ones:
- Market does not automatically update apps
- gps activations without an apparent reason
My annoyances
In no particular order:
The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
Launcher unresponsive/vanishing
Lockscreen pattern not showing (as in the OP)
Phone randomly stays awake at night
GPS turns itself off
Not able to view an apps wakelock any more
USB mount screen shows 'turn off' even when it isn't mounted (UK issue)
USB debugging icon doesn't appear, or doesn't turn off depending on how you enabled it
Exchange push is just crap now, I swear it's getting worse by the day
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- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
I think there is more if I think about it.
Seriously thinking about switching back.
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While I'm not a big Gingerbread lover at all, here are answers to some of the points:
Battery time is fine, at least in freshly installed ROMs it far exceeds what Froyo mastered.
Camera is your own problem - you didn't update radio, or your update went bad.
Gallery never crashed - again, your own problem (you get the feeling now, right?).
3G and WiFi - again, your own problem. No bug.
Apps - and why do you care? Isn't the "DO NOT USE TASK KILLER" thread clear enough? 150-200MB free RAM aren't self-explanatory?
Due to your comments, you might really consider switching to Apple. It would be beneficial both for you and for this forum.
Or you could back up user data, wipe, install new radio and bootloader, load fresh Gingerbread ROM (NOT CM7 or CM7-based), and have most of your points addressed.
Now, having said that, if you want a much better overall feel - install Froyo-based Desire port, or if you don't have any use for Hotspot - DesireHD port. I hate using barebone Android after some experience with it.
have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....
Maybe you haven't heard that your experience not necessarily represents anything.
For me (and another 2 guys that asked me to reinstall other ROM on their Nexus Ones), CM7 was a huge, awful pile of bugs. Starting with the ill-famous "wonk".
Plus, again, after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.
I have an occasional problem with the application tray where it stutters, flashes and doesn't scroll properly. It seems to happen only after exiting certain apps, and needs the launcher to be force closed to fix.
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have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....
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Exactly my experience too. Absolutely brilliant ROM.
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..after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.
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Just lost all credibility in my book...
I would suggest the OP decides what features he/she wants in a ROM and then try a few different ones out. There are plenty to cater to all tastes and i'm sure they'll be able to find one that works well for them.
1. exchange sync stops syncing without any reason. can't start a manual sync. only reboot of the phone helps for a short period of time. needs a fix very urgently.
2. TINY TINY notification icons...the worst idea google had for the GB update. i cannot see the difference between the gmail and exchange mail icon on normal usage in example.
There are some more points which i also mentioned in my blog about gingerbread for nexus one:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2011/03/review-android-2-3-3-gingerbread-for-nexus-one/
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Let's play nicely in here and keep this on-topic. This is not the place to discuss other operating systems. This is about issues pertaining to the OTA Gingerbread updates.
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One bug and one annoying change:
- The instability of the launchers. I hope they address this.
- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?
my mms sometimes does not send if i configure 2 APNs (one for mobile data and one for mms), while i disable the one for mobile data...
it's working fine on Froyo and CM6 before
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- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?
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QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to the target brightness which is quite abrupt visually.
And of course... trackball wake is gone.
I concur with these points:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- GPS: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- Creating shortcuts on desktop: sometimes you can't drag/drop icons to the desktop or to a different spot on the desktop.
- The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
- Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to full bright or full dim.
As for the people suggesting we update the radio and try different roms, while that is primarily what this board is about, it doesn't "solve" anything. This is a stock Nexus One with official everything. If it doesn't work then it doesn't work.

What are your impressions of 5.1?

It took my a while, but thanks to Wugfresh I was finally able to instal 5.1 on my N6. Curious to know what the general consensus is. I've only had it up and running for 6 hours, but has anyone noticed improvement in battery life or memory management?
Thanks.
When I get it.....
For now still waiting.
Think I will like the change in notifications where I can select WiFi hotspot with going into settings.
The battery life has always been great on 5.01
Read all 4 cores are active but I doubt I will notice.
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When I get it.....
For now still waiting.
Think I will like the change in notifications where I can select WiFi hotspot with going into settings.
The battery life has always been great on 5.01
Read all 4 cores are active but I doubt I will notice.
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Franco's kernel has given my battery some extra life, I hope this update does the same.
I have yet to get the two bugs that were really getting on my nerves previously in 5.0 and 5.0.1
1- Random restarts. They could happen at any time, but it seemed like they would happen when I was trying to text. I'd try to keep closing my text messenger application (happened with both Google Messenger and Hangouts), but it didn't always help. I'd send a text message, put my phone down and then a few seconds later, notice the Google logo because it was restarting.
2- Sometimes when the screen powers up, all I see on my lock screen is a blank black background, the on-screen back button and the usual clock and what not at the top of the phone. Otherwise, the screen itself is black and I'm basically locked out of my phone until I restarted it. If I was lucky and I was using my Bluetooth headset, if I received a phone call, that would sometimes get the phone to snap out of it and allow me to answer the phone call and then when the call was done I'd get the normal lock screen again.
So far so good with 5.1 *knocks on wood*
I just flash it this morning and I feel like im still on 5.0.1. I only use 1 wifi connection and 1 bluetooth connection, so a drop down menu doesn't really effect my daily usage since I don't switch them. Whatever they did behind the hood to improve performance/battery will be nice, but haven't had it installed long enough yet to notice anything different really.
I would also like to know how the 4 cores being force enabled effects the experience before I make the jump.
5.1 is what Lollipop should have been from launch. It's equivalent to Windows 7 replacing Vista. It's that much better.
Sideloaded with adb on my stock att N6. Seems real quick so far. Don't notice any additional drain on battery.
So far it seems about the same as before to me. However, I am on Sprint and the new radio that prevents duplicate texts is awesome so that part of it makes it seem like a new device.
I play Hearthstone, Kingdom Rush and Clash of Clans on My nexus 6 and they all run fine so far.
I did un-encrypt like before. I cannot comment on battery life yet since it hasn't even been 24 hours for me since I updated.
So far so good. Battery life has certainly improved, it was pretty abysmal for me before. I only experienced one bug that I know of on 5.0.1 where occasionally my status bar and nav bar would disappear and the phone was in a partially locked state. Trying to slide down the notification drawer would show the lockscreen. Hopefully that's fixed.
is double tap to wake.. enable in 5.1??
I'm not on a N6 yet, but my GNex is on 5.1, and to compare (because I've only got 1Gb of RAM here, it's a good test because the margins are so small compared to having 3Gb) the 5.1 update is by far the most stable yet for my device. 5.0 was baaad, but consider how many commits corrected memory leaks and you can tell this is the one. I'm looking forward to getting my N6 with 5.1 on it.
Big dialer bug in 5.1. Anyone else getting it?
My screen immediately locks and turns off in the dialer when initiating or answering phone calls. I have no access to onscreen controls until the call is terminated. I cannot hangup, select speakerphone, go to my home screen, etc., until the call ends and Android gives me my screen back.
I'm stock rooted on a 64gb N6 on Verizon. In order to maintain my data and settings I used fastboot to individually flash the new bootloader, radio, system, and boot images.
The same thing happened to an acquaintance of mine who is not rooted and did a fresh install.
Bug reported to Google, ID 160006, if you're interested.
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I am noticing a huge performance improvement from 5.0.1 already. Battery life is also better. I am not having the dialer issue like some, but have seen 3 instances of people saying the same thing.
Was on stock, now on Vanillipop 1.6 with Franco Kernel r20.
Much smoother and the battery seems improved. Still testing out.
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Big dialer bug in 5.1. Anyone else getting it?
My screen immediately locks and turns off in the dialer when initiating or answering phone calls. I have no access to onscreen controls until the call is terminated. I cannot hangup, select speakerphone, go to my home screen, etc., until the call ends and Android gives me my screen back.
I'm stock rooted on a 64gb N6 on Verizon. In order to maintain my data and settings I used fastboot to individually flash the new bootloader, radio, system, and boot images.
The same thing happened to an acquaintance of mine who is not rooted and did a fresh install.
Bug reported to Google, ID 160006, if you're interested.
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got a tempered glass protector on it?
Fly135s said:
Big dialer bug in 5.1. Anyone else getting it?
My screen immediately locks and turns off in the dialer when initiating or answering phone calls. I have no access to onscreen controls until the call is terminated. I cannot hangup, select speakerphone, go to my home screen, etc., until the call ends and Android gives me my screen back.
I'm stock rooted on a 64gb N6 on Verizon. In order to maintain my data and settings I used fastboot to individually flash the new bootloader, radio, system, and boot images.
The same thing happened to an acquaintance of mine who is not rooted and did a fresh install.
Bug reported to Google, ID 160006, if you're interested.
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Do you use a screen protector that covers the sensor? I know there is a thread somewhere around here with a lot of people that have that issue and it's because of their screen protector in 5.1 for some reason.
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Greatly, its butter all the time.
I haven't noticed a whole lot yet, some games seem to be playing a lot better, the graphical glitch I was seeing on xcom seems to have disappeared so its actually playable now
I've been experiencing an increase in fluidness (is that a word) throughout the UI as a whole, the phone moves from task to task without any stutter and the animations seem to have a bit more polish to them. Checking on the battery now, but I was never a power user to begin with. Overall it may not look like much but you can tell there are some big time enhancements coming from 5.0.1

DoubleTap to Lock/Wake while using Apex Launcher

My apologies if this is a repeat post.
It has been mentioned before that the double-tap-to-wake does not working with anything but the stock launcher. Actually technically the *wake* should work with any launcher. I just installed Apex (my regular launcher), and it is still working just fine. What does not work is the *lock*. Apex has its own double-tap gesture definition, and lock isn't one of the options. So to get around that, you can go to the Play Store and download, install and activate "Screen Off and Lock" . One option on the Apex double-tap setting is to launch any other app. You can now configure it to launch this app. Once you do that, when you double tap while in Apex, it will lock the screen. When you double tap again, it will unlock ( I do not think that has anything to do with Apex anyway ) .
Apex is my favorite launcher and I have been looking for a way to get back to it without losing the double tap. Now I can change themes, make my drawer look better and set up many other gestures. Hopefully this trick can work in any other launcher you want to use. And at the minimum , the double tap to wake should work regardless.
Double tap to wake works for me with Google Now launcher and Nova (free version). Double tap to sleep (lock) doesn't work with either. Works fine both ways with the stock Idol launcher. Looks like you may have discovered a work around.
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My apologies if this is a repeat post.
It has been mentioned before that the double-tap-to-wake does not working with anything but the stock launcher. Actually technically the *wake* should work with any launcher. I just installed Apex (my regular launcher), and it is still working just fine. What does not work is the *lock*. Apex has its own double-tap gesture definition, and lock isn't one of the options. So to get around that, you can go to the Play Store and download, install and activate "Screen Off and Lock" . One option on the Apex double-tap setting is to launch any other app. You can now configure it to launch this app. Once you do that, when you double tap while in Apex, it will lock the screen. When you double tap again, it will unlock ( I do not think that has anything to do with Apex anyway ) .
Apex is my favorite launcher and I have been looking for a way to get back to it without losing the double tap. Now I can change themes, make my drawer look better and set up many other gestures. Hopefully this trick can work in any other launcher you want to use. And at the minimum , the double tap to wake should work regardless.
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Nova Launcher has an identical gesture/setup. [ which I'm using in same way with the "Screen Off" app since the phone auto locks when the screen goes blank. ]
I have experienced the inconsistency with dt2w. I kept deactivating/activating it and it's been working adequately (~60% of the time, still sucky but much better than before). Like others have said, it works much better if the phone is sitting on a desk as opposed to attempting it while in your hand. I really hope the reliability of dt2w gets improved in the next OTA update.
Using Nova and a double tap gesture that activates a screen lock app works perfectly for me.
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I have experienced the inconsistency with dt2w. I kept deactivating/activating it and it's been working adequately (~60% of the time, still sucky but much better than before). Like others have said, it works much better if the phone is sitting on a desk as opposed to attempting it while in your hand. I really hope the reliability of dt2w gets improved in the next OTA update.
Using Nova and a double tap gesture that activates a screen lock app works perfectly for me.
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Same here, NOVA launcher premium
My dt2w works flawlessly to turn screen off. It only works 50% of the time to get it on.
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My dt2w works flawlessly to turn screen off. It only works 50% of the time to get it on.
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Exactly the same situation here.
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Exactly the same situation here.
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I'm spoiled with the G3 and the Zenfone 2. They both work flawlessly.
Hopefully this gets fixed in an update.
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Thank you very much dude, I'm hoping to root ASAP still haven't found a reliable way to. I wish this device had a bit more ram but pretty good so far. I hate not being rooted just because I can erase anything on the external SD and hopefully with a custom Tom the screen Issues with the phone not waking gets fixed
You don't have to be rooted to delete files on the external drive. There's a thread here that covers that. I'll post the link when I'm on the PC.
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You don't have to be rooted to delete files on the external drive. There's a thread here that covers that. I'll post the link when I'm on the PC.
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Sorry it took so long fopr me to get back here to post the link. I had PC issues and had to install Windows and then the hardware drivers for the AMD card gave me a fight. But you prolly already found the thread but the thread is below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/help/install-to-sd-card-root-access-t3119374
New discovery
Some of you may have already discovered this - but this is certainly new for me. What I am noticing about the double-tap-to-wake - is that it always works - BUT - what is happening is that often it is slow - and I mean really really slow sometimes. Most of us would perceive that as not working - and try it again. And double-tap, on top of double-tap just makes matters worse. What I did was - tried double-tapping once - and when the screen did not come back on, just let it be for about 10+ ( probably more than that at times ) seconds - and it eventually came back on. Even under normal circumstances, the screen wakeup is slow . It looks like sometimes it just takes forever, creating the impression that it is not working. I am not trying to suggest that we can say that this behavior qualifies as 'working' - but at least we know what exactly the problem is.
I hope Alcatel pushes a fix for this. Till that time - I will have to continue to rely on single-tap to wake ( aka the power button ) if double tap to wake does not work.
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Some of you may have already discovered this - but this is certainly new for me. What I am noticing about the double-tap-to-wake - is that it always works - BUT - what is happening is that often it is slow - and I mean really really slow sometimes. Most of us would perceive that as not working - and try it again. And double-tap, on top of double-tap just makes matters worse. What I did was - tried double-tapping once - and when the screen did not come back on, just let it be for about 10+ ( probably more than that at times ) seconds - and it eventually came back on. Even under normal circumstances, the screen wakeup is slow . It looks like sometimes it just takes forever, creating the impression that it is not working. I am not trying to suggest that we can say that this behavior qualifies as 'working' - but at least we know what exactly the problem is.
I hope Alcatel pushes a fix for this. Till that time - I will have to continue to rely on single-tap to wake ( aka the power button ) if double tap to wake does not work.
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I have tried waiting for the screen without it coming on. Putting it on the desk and trying it and leaving it there, with no response. After a reset or disabling then enabling the function would work for a brief while. After that nothing seemed to help. If I used the power button to activate the screen and then try the DTTW, it would work but as soon as the phone went idol, so did the DTTW. As much as I liked the phone for the most part, I was not prepared to go past my return date without even one update coming from Alcatel.
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I have tried waiting for the screen without it coming on. Putting it on the desk and trying it and leaving it there, with no response. After a reset or disabling then enabling the function would work for a brief while. After that nothing seemed to help. If I used the power button to activate the screen and then try the DTTW, it would work but as soon as the phone went idol, so did the DTTW. As much as I liked the phone for the most part, I was not prepared to go past my return date without even one update coming from Alcatel.
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Since the time I arrived at this theory, I have tested it again and again - and I can confirm that it is always doing it. You just have to be really really patient to see this in action. Forget what I said about 10 seconds ; sometimes you have to wait for more than a minute. It is weird - you double tap - then just stare at the phone for ages and suddenly out of nowhere the screen lights up.
If D2W is important for you , then my discovery does nothing for you - It is still broken. So you did the right thing in returning it. As far as updates go, again if that is important for you, then you did the right thing. Honestly I do not expect many ( if at all ) updates from TCL. From what I understand, they do not have the kind of software development infrastructure that Asus does . And that is evident from the extent of skinning that Asus did on top of Lollipop whereas the Idol3 was mostly a stock experience. IMHO - right now - more than updates from TCL, we need root , so that developers can do their own thing with the phone.
I have since installed a proximity sensor based wave-to-unlock app. Not only does it work very well, it also allows me to lock the screen back, from the lock-screen itself, something that is missing in the default D2W setup. The only downside is the additional power consumption by the proximity sensor. Since it is supposed to use only 3 mA , I am hoping it is not going to be too bad, but I will watch out for it. If the battery performance does not degrade too much, then I think I can kiss D2W goodbye.
I sent an email to Altatel Tech Support about a week ago and asked them if they are aware of the DTTW issues and working on a fix. I received a reply stating that they are aware and are working on an update. My guess is that they will try to combine multiple fixes into a single update. It may take a little longer and it is too bad that Alcatel is not better at communicating with its customers. It would make no sense for Alcatel to ignore all of the customer complaints here, on Amazon, and in various reviews and do nothing. They are spending cash marketing this phone and they must be smart enough to know that their sales will tank if they ignore the issues.
Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know of a solution that appears to fix the double tap to wake issue everyone is having. Like most of you, I've been annoyed that this only works like 50% of the time. I've noticed in the G4 forums of people having issues with their double tap to wake not working as well also (only 80% of the time, still much better than idol 3). One of their fixes is to download SGS Screen Booster from the Play Store. Using the Super Optimized preset, I can say that double tap to wake works 10 out of 10 times in my testing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&hl=en
japhule said:
Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know of a solution that appears to fix the double tap to wake issue everyone is having. Like most of you, I've been annoyed that this only works like 50% of the time. I've noticed in the G4 forums of people having issues with their double tap to wake not working as well also (only 80% of the time, still much better than idol 3). One of their fixes is to download SGS Screen Booster from the Play Store. Using the Super Optimized preset, I can say that double tap to wake works 10 out of 10 times in my testing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&hl=en
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I tried this app and it seems to improve lag time when you open an app too! Great find!
OTA
An official OTA update has just been announced to fix the DTTW
Borghi said:
I tried this app and it seems to improve lag time when you open an app too! Great find!
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LG V20 Oreo review

After a lot of waiting and holding onto the reviews to find out if I am going to install the oreo update or not, finally I did the installation. The reviews of the people having tried were quite mixed and I never got any full review of the update from anyone so I thought to write it down for someone like me looking for such review.
The installation went well and smooth. I have a Korean version of LG v20 with f800 model. I installed the f80020e with security patch level of August 2018 and then I checked for further update and found that there is another update of around 650mb which then changed the software version to f80020f. I did the factory reset (hard reset with button combinations) to start fresh.
Now here are the things which I liked and which I didn’t like and then the things which I miss from android noughat.
Things I liked:
1. The whole UI is smooth now, with flattened everything. There is a good change in UI but not a major one from nougat. You might find some changes very interesting but there are just some color changes and nothing much.
2. The system settings menu is bit changed. Some settings locations have been changed. For example, the lock screen settings used to be under display tab but now moved under system security settings. I think LG felt that lock screen is not a part of display but rather security. Strange though.
3. Apart from settings menu changing and flattening of notifications panel, there is nothing else. Everything is pretty much same as that of android 7.
4. App permissions settings is now very well organized. I have a good look onto which sensor or permission is given to which app by default and which is necessary and which is not. For example, a text app has nothing to do with my location so I turned it off. Similarly, a phone app has nothing to do with camera. So, on and so forth. App permissions can be controlled very well.
5. Notifications panel now categorized the notifications into tabs. Though I didn’t feel it very useful. The reason is, I go into each app manually and customize the notifications by myself. This way I know which notifications will come and which will never show up. For example, I don’t like push notifications from Instagram because I don’t use it much so I have turned them off. This feature is useful for those who install the app and use it with their default settings and then their notifications panel is clogged and then oreo comes into action.
6. Navigation bar can now be hidden with the dot button in the extreme left. I really liked that.
Things which I didn’t like:
1. The first and the most important. Battery life is bit weird. The battery now drops more frequently than noughat. This thing is quite frustrating as I was extremely concerned about this by reading the reviews and was afraid of facing the battery life issues, which happened even though I did the factory restore and started fresh.
I have been noting the battery usage in the battery section and mostly it is the OS parts which are using battery more rather than apps.
2. The battery saver was always there from android lollipop onwards. I loved this feature that when the battery level hits 15%, it kicks in and status bar and navigation bar will go orange and battery saver is turned on. The transitions are turned off and this way I could survive for some time until I reach home and charge it. This feature is somehow changed now. The battery saver is there but it doesn’t kick in automatically at any lower levels. It is either ON or OFF. If it is ON, then it is working even when battery level is in upper limits and it will turn off every animation. So I have to turn it on manually when I see battery level going down. This is what I hated the most.
3. Another frustrating element is, LG’s screen ghosting feature is still there and I have installed the sfilter app which keeps it away by running over the screen. Now the oreo keeps pinching me that sfilter is running over other apps (which I know) but that notification popup is annoying. If I turn that notification off (by sliding to right or left on notification) it will turn off every such notification from other apps which are running on top. Android noughat was very simple.
I am not very happy with the update and might go back to noughat. But it depends. I am giving oreo sometime to calibrate the phone so that the battery drop can be calibrated and trying to adjust myself with it. Let’s see.
awaisagha said:
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1. The first and the most important. Battery life is bit weird. The battery now drops more frequently than noughat. This thing is quite frustrating as I was extremely concerned about this by reading the reviews and was afraid of facing the battery life issues, which happened even though I did the factory restore and started fresh.
I have been noting the battery usage in the battery section and mostly it is the OS parts which are using battery more rather than apps.
2. The battery saver was always there from android lollipop onwards. I loved this feature that when the battery level hits 15%, it kicks in and status bar and navigation bar will go orange and battery saver is turned on. The transitions are turned off and this way I could survive for some time until I reach home and charge it. This feature is somehow changed now. The battery saver is there but it doesn’t kick in automatically at any lower levels. It is either ON or OFF. If it is ON, then it is working even when battery level is in upper limits and it will turn off every animation. So I have to turn it on manually when I see battery level going down. This is what I hated the most....................
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I confirm the above. Especially the battery saver behavior is strange. I hate this.
I also have a feeling that that when switching between different pages of settings menu the phone is slower than with Nougat.

Upgraded to STABLE Android 12 One UI 4? How's it going?

I'm curious to know from those who updated/flashed to the STABLE (NOT BETA, please!), how is your phone working so far? Do you have any issues? Were the issues from the BETA resolved?
Format: (So that it's easier for people to associate with their device)
- Model: Snapdragon/Exynos
- Openline or Branded
- Updated via OTA or Flashed
- Dirty flash or FULL reset?
- Issues:
- What do you like/dislike:
Your post will greatly help the community.
Hopefully carriers will start pushing the Android 12/One UI 4 update for the Note 20/Ultra OTA this upcoming week. The S21 on VZW pushed it OTA the same day as the European roll out, so maybe its not too far behind for US carrier branded Note models.
-Exynos
-Unbranded
-Flashed with Odin (Switzerland firmware)
-No issues detected
I generally like the new animations, the new popup PiP design (rounded corner and possibility of resizing the window), battery life seems to be as good as before. The possiiblity of making AoD turn on when receiving a notification is nice and resembles the old Motorola active display feature. New Pro Mode layour for camera is better. I also enjoy the integration of the same animation for loading screen system wide, it's a nice touch even though I think the animation itself could be better. The gesture system from Google (Swipe from sides and bottom) now is usable with a 3rd party launcher, though it's still a bit clunky.
The only thing I dislike is the brightness bar in the notification tray which is now "tall" all the time and takes more space.
I must say that I didn't notice any particular difference coming from the second Beta (for Exynos there were only 2 beta releases), the first one was a bit clunky but the second was already well cooked. As far as I've seen there are no new issues introduced with this release, the 2 I knew of that were introducd with Android 11 still stand: Samsung gestures (swipe from bottom, the 3 way one) don't work as smoothly as in Android 10 because the recents gesture is not interactive and triggers only on finger release, the "currently playing" notification in the tray sometimes resets (when you reboot for instance it appears showing the last thing you were listening to).
Overall I'm happy about the update, it's a minor one for sure but they succeeded in not screwing up.
Sprov said:
-Exynos
-Unbranded
-Flashed with Odin (Switzerland firmware)
-No issues detected
I generally like the new animations, the new popup PiP design (rounded corner and possibility of resizing the window), battery life seems to be as good as before. The possiiblity of making AoD turn on when receiving a notification is nice and resembles the old Motorola active display feature. New Pro Mode layour for camera is better. I also enjoy the integration of the same animation for loading screen system wide, it's a nice touch even though I think the animation itself could be better. The gesture system from Google (Swipe from sides and bottom) now is usable with a 3rd party launcher, though it's still a bit clunky.
The only thing I dislike is the brightness bar in the notification tray which is now "tall" all the time and takes more space.
I must say that I didn't notice any particular difference coming from the second Beta (for Exynos there were only 2 beta releases), the first one was a bit clunky but the second was already well cooked. As far as I've seen there are no new issues introduced with this release, the 2 I knew of that were introducd with Android 11 still stand: Samsung gestures (swipe from bottom, the 3 way one) don't work as smoothly as in Android 10 because the recents gesture is not interactive and triggers only on finger release, the "currently playing" notification in the tray sometimes resets (when you reboot for instance it appears showing the last thing you were listening to).
Overall I'm happy about the update, it's a minor one for sure but they succeeded in not screwing up.
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Thank you for this, @Sprov!
How about on connectivity, WiFi, Cellular, 5G, WiFi Calling/VoLTE, don't you have any issues? Connecting to BT devices like Buds Pro or any audio devices, Google AUTO etc.?
BlinkThinks said:
Thank you for this, @Sprov!
How about on connectivity, WiFi, Cellular, 5G, WiFi Calling/VoLTE, don't you have any issues? Connecting to BT devices like Buds Pro or any audio devices, Google AUTO etc.?
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Everything as smooth as always, now that I think about it I had to pair again the Buds Pro during the first Beta (it was working at the beginning though) because the media would play but there was no sound output. In my area there's no 5G to test. 4G and calls fine as before, WiFi, GPS all alright. I don't use Android Auto
I have two very annoying issues with One UI 4:
- Overheat
- bad animations (lag, fps drop and etc)
-Exynos -Unbranded -Flashed with Odin (Switzerland firmware) -No issues detected I generally like the new animations, the new popup PiP design (rounded corner and possibility of resizing the window), battery life seems to be as good as before. The possiiblity of making AoD turn on when receiving a notification is nice and resembles the old Motorola active display feature. New Pro Mode layour for camera is better. I also enjoy the integration of the same animation for loading screen system wide, it's a nice touch even though I think the animation itself could be better. The gesture system from Google (Swipe from sides and bottom) now is usable with a 3rd party launcher, though it's still a bit clunky. The only thing I dislike is the brightness bar in the notification tray which is now "tall" all the time and takes more space. I must say that I didn't notice any particular difference coming from the second Beta (for Exynos there were only 2 beta releases), the first one was a bit clunky but the second was already well cooked. As far as I've seen there are no new issues introduced with this release, the 2 I knew of that were introducd with Android 11 still stand: Samsung gestures (swipe from bottom, the 3 way one) don't work as smoothly as in Android 10 because the recents gesture is not interactive and triggers only on finger release, the "currently playing" notification in the tray sometimes resets (when you reboot for instance it appears showing the last thing you were listening to). Overall I'm happy about the update, it's a minor one for sure but they succeeded in not screwing up.
I guess the Swiss version won't work with BTU?
enigmatron said:
-Exynos -Unbranded -Flashed with Odin (Switzerland firmware) -No issues detected I generally like the new animations, the new popup PiP design (rounded corner and possibility of resizing the window), battery life seems to be as good as before. The possiiblity of making AoD turn on when receiving a notification is nice and resembles the old Motorola active display feature. New Pro Mode layour for camera is better. I also enjoy the integration of the same animation for loading screen system wide, it's a nice touch even though I think the animation itself could be better. The gesture system from Google (Swipe from sides and bottom) now is usable with a 3rd party launcher, though it's still a bit clunky. The only thing I dislike is the brightness bar in the notification tray which is now "tall" all the time and takes more space. I must say that I didn't notice any particular difference coming from the second Beta (for Exynos there were only 2 beta releases), the first one was a bit clunky but the second was already well cooked. As far as I've seen there are no new issues introduced with this release, the 2 I knew of that were introducd with Android 11 still stand: Samsung gestures (swipe from bottom, the 3 way one) don't work as smoothly as in Android 10 because the recents gesture is not interactive and triggers only on finger release, the "currently playing" notification in the tray sometimes resets (when you reboot for instance it appears showing the last thing you were listening to). Overall I'm happy about the update, it's a minor one for sure but they succeeded in not screwing up.
I guess the Swiss version won't work with BTU?
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It works with BTU, in Odin use home_csc for retaining your data.
Clean install here and everything is smooth and I feel it have a better battery life then before..
Anyone got a ZIP file of the software ending in LF on android 12? The sammobile site is slow at downloading files from.
Model: N986U xfinity or comcast doesn't matter.
Rollablunt420 said:
Anyone got a ZIP file of the software ending in LF on android 12? The sammobile site is slow at downloading files from.
Model: N986U xfinity or comcast doesn't matter.
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SM-N986USQS2EULF_CCT.zip | by Venom0642 for Galaxy Note 20 Ultra
Android 12 Official AT&T
www.androidfilehost.com
Awesome thank you. Next task to work on is how to root it. And get this bootloader unlocked officially.
Leon said:
I have two very annoying issues with One UI 4:
- Overheat
- bad animations (lag, fps drop and etc)
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I have same issue.
Hello ,
Exynos
Phone buy Samsung Shop web
Flash with Odin PC , Switzerland firmware
Just update , i became from beta 2 , i use home csc . I conserve all data
My phone is more smooth , more reactive . For battery , it's difficult to say it's more better . Good works .
Codec LDAC is functional since a few update , i like that with my Soundcore Life Q35 .
I like this update but it's not a big update .
crizalid8 said:
I have same issue.
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Not sure about the high temperature, but I read in other forums that factory reset can't fix the laggy animations. I think for this we need to spam on Samsung Support. Also, I did heavy debloat with some PC app, and seems the battery life is drastically improved. I may share the result in a few days.
terneuv said:
Hello ,
Exynos
Phone buy Samsung Shop web
Flash with Odin PC , Switzerland firmware
Just update , i became from beta 2 , i use home csc . I conserve all data
My phone is more smooth , more reactive . For battery , it's difficult to say it's more better . Good works .
Codec LDAC is functional since a few update , i like that with my Soundcore Life Q35 .
I like this update but it's not a big update .
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Does LDAC stick once it's enabled or do you have to keep enabling it? Do you also need to go into developer settings to activate it?
Sucks. On my Verizon it killed the top of the display; first row of icons. Posted a thread in Q&A.
My advice is: Don't!
Immediately used adb app control to kill updates.
Now what?
I'm still on beta three, I haven't had any issues with any of the releases myself 986U1 ATT
- Model: Exynos
- Branded
- Flashed
- Dirty flash for starters, then did a FULL reset?
- Issues: Lots of little ones, Bluetooth Buds continually disconnecting as well as Galaxy Watch 4, Alarm keeps turning off when hit snooze button instead of snoozing,Google Assistant does not always work with voice wake up, this is a problem when driving. Plus a couple of other small things I can't remember at the moment.
- What do you like, most things I like, Dislike that Android Auto for Phone screens no longer supported, have to use Assistant Driving Mode that does not work in landscape mode and is absolute rubbish.
I have now gone back to Android 11, till I see that these problems are fixed.
I did try the Beta version before the stable one, and that have most of these issues as well, so thought should have been fixed for stable release.
BlinkThinks said:
I'm curious to know from those who updated/flashed to the STABLE (NOT BETA, please!), how is your phone working so far? Do you have any issues? Were the issues from the BETA resolved?
Format: (So that it's easier for people to associate with their device)
- Model: Snapdragon/Exynos
- Openline or Branded
- Updated via OTA or Flashed
- Dirty flash or FULL reset?
- Issues:
- What do you like/dislike:
Your post will greatly help the community.
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I have no (AS IN NONE) issues with the Stable A12. Everything is working as it should and the device is gr8!
- Exynos from Malaysia (XME)
- Unbranded
- Updated via OTA
- Dirty flash
- Issues: Whenever I use the notification panel it gets laggy, like it were set at 60hz
- What you like: I love it, it handles overheat better.

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