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1. Battery life is incredibly bad
-The battery life drains from 100% to 10% just in 8-10hrs. No gaming or no heavy duty in the background.
-The brightness level has set at 50% or under, and the SOT was never more than 30 minutes
2. The power button is too weak
-It was broken after a few days of out of the box.
-During that time, sometimes it works, but sometimes not
-After few months of use, it was great. It was competely dead.
**I did a research that a big number of G5 user has reported this is a common issue. Thanks to LG
3.The USB port is flimsy
-The fast charging function won't work probaly anymore after a few months of normal use.
-It keeps popping up an annoying power supply notification on the bar while there was nothing doing with the port.
**It's another common issue, but seems this case is not as serious as the power button one.
4.The texture of the phone is really hard to tell me that the phone was made out of matal
-Yes, I know there is something called coating, but that feeling is so horrible, just like other plastic phones, so why didn't they just make a plastic phone like G3,G4 instead of this one?
5. Image retention makes the screen like a crap
-2K QHD IPS LCD, all these labels just meant to give the good impression to the consumer. Well, once they found out how creepy is the watermark produced on the screen by leaving the screen on the same image just a little while, they could regret to buy a phone that should have an astounding quality of screen, which actually worse than the predecessor, G3.
6.The edges of the body just like a blade
-I know this state is too exaggerated, but I have already ran out of words to describe that bloody cheap feeling.
7.It's easy to get throttled
When everytime I restart the phone, texting message, watching youtube videos, surfing internet, I just like holding a warmer. Thanks to LG for giving me a free warmer.
Anyway, after the G3, G4 boot looping trash and this crap, I will never buy a single LG phone again.
I have been using my H850 for one year now and don't have any of the issues you describe: Yes, the build quality of Samsung and Sony is ahead of LG, but it still works like on the first day and still has good battery runtime. No ghosting at all, nothing.
You got a bad phone, simply get it replaced.
Regarding the "coated metal", I couldn't care less: For me a phone is a tool, not a status symbol and surely not a piece of jewelry. If you see things differently, buy something like a SGS8 or HTC U11. It's not that you cannot recognize this when buying the phone.
No 2017 highend phone I'm aware of has SD card support, a replacable battery and an unlockable bootloader. So I'll use my G5 until it falls apart.
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I have been using my H850 for one year now and don't have any of the issues you describe
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Same here ... judging by your username I'm guessing you also got the "1. FC Köln" version :angel: :laugh:
But I agree - I don't have ANY of the issues you mentioned @cuepudding, and I've also had my H850 for a year now.
The only thing that is making me regret that I ever got it is the lack of custom rom support. We don't have many choices and the ones that are around either don't update often or have/will stop being maintained.
The phone itself and the quality are great though :good:
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Same here ... judging by your username I'm guessing you also got the "1. FC Köln" version :angel: :laugh:
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Actually, I do live in Cologne :laugh: But I have the regular H850, though.
So far, the only issues I've had with my H860 are that the metal is quite soft (my phone fell from like 15cm into a wooden table and the side now has a dent) and also the camera glass, which is really REALLY scratched on both sides (and I keep my phone in my pocket 97% of the time).
cuepudding said:
1. Battery life is incredibly bad
-The battery life drains from 100% to 10% just in 8-10hrs. No gaming or no heavy duty in the background.
-The brightness level has set at 50% or under, and the SOT was never more than 30 minutes
2. The power button is too weak
-It was broken after a few days of out of the box.
-During that time, sometimes it works, but sometimes not
-After few months of use, it was great. It was competely dead.
**I did a research that a big number of G5 user has reported this is a common issue. Thanks to LG
3.The USB port is flimsy
-The fast charging function won't work probaly anymore after a few months of normal use.
-It keeps popping up an annoying power supply notification on the bar while there was nothing doing with the port.
**It's another common issue, but seems this case is not as serious as the power button one.
4.The texture of the phone is really hard to tell me that the phone was made out of matal
-Yes, I know there is something called coating, but that feeling is so horrible, just like other plastic phones, so why didn't they just make a plastic phone like G3,G4 instead of this one?
5. Image retention makes the screen like a crap
-2K QHD IPS LCD, all these labels just meant to give the good impression to the consumer. Well, once they found out how creepy is the watermark produced on the screen by leaving the screen on the same image just a little while, they could regret to buy a phone that should have an astounding quality of screen, which actually worse than the predecessor, G3.
6.The edges of the body just like a blade
-I know this state is too exaggerated, but I have already ran out of words to describe that bloody cheap feeling.
7.It's easy to get throttled
When everytime I restart the phone, texting message, watching youtube videos, surfing internet, I just like holding a warmer. Thanks to LG for giving me a free warmer.
Anyway, after the G3, G4 boot looping trash and this crap, I will never buy a single LG phone again.
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I have used LG optimus G , LG optimus 3D ,LG G2 and now LG G5 never had any quality issues. I think what you got is duplicate of LG G5 . The only part i regret in LG G5 is battery life other than that its a beautiful phone with super fast performance, I moved back to android from Iphone 6.
I'm not that satisfied with G5 either! Already had to send it in due to broken GPS. Also having the screen retention, but they denied changing display. Then battery life isn't that great, although I know it depends on my various things. Last but not least having big trouble using WLAN and BT at same time, but I'm not sure if it's more related to Android 7.0 than LG G5. All in all other phones of mine performed quite better at their times...
I also am happy with my LG G5, only fault i have is battery life but I carry a spare and just change when it gets too low, otherwise the phone does everthing a phone should. If i wantvto play games i use my PC or XBone S.
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I have mine for a year. GPS broke few times, image retention (I use Blue Light Filter to fix it so it's a non issue for me now) and the camera glass got so many scratches I had to replace it. Oddly enough, the 2.5$ glass I got from China holds much better than the original glass!! No scratches.
But... The 2 main reasons I keep this phone:
1. The camera(s) is outstanding. And the camera software is by far the best in the market.
2. Removable battery. I always carry a spare battery in my bag. Never worried about battery life.
I don't like that the screen isn't flat but I can live with it.
A bit deceived by HTC with the U 11 that has apparently a bad 3.5mm adapter, I am searching for a good phone to replace my 1 year old HTC 10.
I saw the V20 is an excellent audio phone with a very good camera and screen but I am afraid of a lack of custom roms and contrast for the screen.
What do you think? Is the V20 too old to fight against newer S8 and U 11 or it's still a strong candidate?
Any lags?
I don't have my phone as I am still waiting for it to come in the mail; However, the spec on papers appears that both phones are similar in CPU and RAM. Is there something specific that draws you to the V20?
question is: why would you want to replace your htc10 in first place?
except you have some problem with it, I would see no reason why you should change it with a v20... unless you're going to use really high impedance headsets... but since you're considering the s8 as a substitute, I doubt have you have any interest for that kind of headsets.
v20 and htc10 share the same SoC, have more or less the same overall photo quality (v20 has the wide angle camera which is useful and nice but you may or may not be interested in landscapes), v20 has a better screen, but altogether it's not a great step forward from the htc10.
so... if listening to lossless tracks with high impedance headsets isn't your top priority, you can either keep your htc10 or go for the s8. otherwise v20 is a no brainer, together with the korean g6.
if you're just looking for a fresh new smartphone, s8
Well the v20 has an IR blaster and a removable battery. That alone makes it a step up from the HTC 10. The S8 and u11 don't have enough specs to make up for that IMO. If I was buying a phone today, I would personally choose the v20. I Love mine!
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The V20 is way too heavy, I was interested at first for the bigger screen but this phone is too heavy even without a cover
Not compared to the U11 you mentioned - that's only 5g lighter.
The V20 is well engineered and solidly built, that's a plus. A case adds very little extra weight.
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Not compared to the U11 you mentioned - that's only 5g lighter.
The V20 is well engineered and solidly built, that's a plus. A case adds very little extra weight.
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I think a dbrand skin will be perfect no? it will make it prettier and protect it against scratches
I've dropped my phone several times. This phone is built to last, you don't need a silly case over it covering up all the sexiness lol
I got rid of my V20 after 5 months I hated it. Battery life was awful. The look and feel was cheap. The speaker was tinny. It was very sluggish from time to time without a reason. The screen was very good for a LCD. Dual camera was fun and pictures came out well most of the time but nothing to brag about.
Hey guys,
so the title speaks for itself - I'm in the market for a new phone (tired of OP3 - it's pretty boring) and my top contenders are LG G6 and SGS8. My concerns:
LG G6:
-SD821 with adreno 530: Is that enough to push the most graphically demanding games to QHD as well as glide through UI flawlessly?
-App scaling: AFAIK Youtube is still not supported and that is my 80% of media consumption on the phone. It's like having a track, a McLaren, and a limiter set on 60kmh.
-Value retention: There's no way I'm gonna hold on to a phone for over a year, so selling it afterwards is a big thing. G6 already dropped in price like 33%...
SGS8:
-Bixby button: For me, it's a psychological nightmare having a button that does nothing useful. How do you cope with this? Iris scanner is pretty close to this.
-Brittleness: While holding the phone in a store, it felt like a porcelain plate - you drop it once and it's all broken. Any experiences?
-Price: 100$ over the G6 at the moment. Hard to decide if the difference is worth a hundred.
-'Simple' camera: It's great, no doubt. But that wide-angle on the G6 though...
Has any of you been in such position? Which way did you go (or would go, if it were you)?
Thanks
g6
I'm sure the 821 is more than enough on the g6, plenty of phones have it and no one is complaining that they can't catch their pokemon smoothly.
I'm sure with an update youtube will get support, i mean how dumb can lg be by not supporting youtube?
Value retention on lg's is horrible, never purchase it at the original price because it'll drop right after.
s8
I disabled bixby, now its just a useless button.
Haven't dropped it yet but im sure the g6 will take more of a beating
The extra storage and edge display was worth it for me
The wide angle has its uses, too bad they didn't add a third 2x zoom lens lol
To me the 4mm narrower size was what made me get the s8, i just don't like phones over 70mm wide, that and the extra storage since sdcards are somewhat useless nowadays for app storage.
Koostis said:
Hey guys,
so the title speaks for itself - I'm in the market for a new phone (tired of OP3 - it's pretty boring) and my top contenders are LG G6 and SGS8. My concerns:
LG G6:
-SD821 with adreno 530: Is that enough to push the most graphically demanding games to QHD as well as glide through UI flawlessly?
-App scaling: AFAIK Youtube is still not supported and that is my 80% of media consumption on the phone. It's like having a track, a McLaren, and a limiter set on 60kmh.
-Value retention: There's no way I'm gonna hold on to a phone for over a year, so selling it afterwards is a big thing. G6 already dropped in price like 33%...
SGS8:
-Bixby button: For me, it's a psychological nightmare having a button that does nothing useful. How do you cope with this? Iris scanner is pretty close to this.
-Brittleness: While holding the phone in a store, it felt like a porcelain plate - you drop it once and it's all broken. Any experiences?
-Price: 100$ over the G6 at the moment. Hard to decide if the difference is worth a hundred.
-'Simple' camera: It's great, no doubt. But that wide-angle on the G6 though...
Has any of you been in such position? Which way did you go (or would go, if it were you)?
Thanks
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I just dropped my s8 yesterday and the screen cracked pretty good. I had a spigen crystal liquid clear case on it and it barely fell and still broke. So to me they are VERY easy to break. I've dropped plenty phones way worse than yesterday and then never cracked
I dropped my S8 a lot and got no marks on it. Case only, no screen protector.
Well... I just got the G6.... I can't stand the curved display, where it makes the S8 incredibly fragile... Even with a good case, you may get your S8 broken if you drop it... Also, there isn't any good tempered glass to protect the curves.....
100% S8, if you can find some workarounds or get used to some stuff. Bixby button can be remapped to virtually anything useful, I've remapped mine to be like the alert slider on the OnePlus devices. Use bxActions, highly recommend that. Camera on the S8 is way better than the G6 in my opinion, but that's yours to judge. And come on, you're buying a phone in 2017, get the latest and greatest so you can sell it of for a higher price, say a year later. Buying the G6 means you're getting a half-a-year SOC, which means no one will want to buy it next year because it's close to 2 years old and could be slowed down heavily then.
One thing about the G6 though: it doesn't feel like a porcelain plate, it's much nicer to hold because its thicker and grippier. But you could just throw on a case on the S8 and bam!
Bottom line: get the S8. It's worth the $100.
I'm asking because my LG G5 main board has someway corroded and therefore I can't get it repaired under warranty.
and...
I found some really good prices of h918 model on the EBay
I've had so soo many issues with LG G5, burn in, screen discoloration, chin GAP at the bottom. Just to name a few.
My best bet is that LG G5 gap in bottom chin has caused to some moisture to go inside and corrode the main board. Price estimate for changing the main board and battery is 160€... Even though the problem is the screen and with the quality control in the factory! It has pretty major discoloration / burn in problem and battery life has gone to ****.
So here is a few questions I'd like to know about LG v20
1. How does the LG v20 screen compare to that of LG G5, Brightness? Any problems with screen discoloration or with screen burn in?
2. How does the speaker loudness and accuracy differ from G5?
3. Is v20 build quality better than G5's?
4. How does it feel in hand?
5. I can say that I'm an audiophile, are included earbuds how good? And does v20 have better/stronger headphone amplifier.
6. Is there noticeably better audio quality when listening with headphones?
Thanks!
1). The V20 and G5 have similar screens. Obviously the V20 has 0.5" size advantage but is also much bigger in general, so it is not easy to use with one hand. In terms of pixel density, brightness and colors I can't tell much of a difference. If I had to pick, however, the V20 would win any day.
2). Both phones have single, bottom-firing speakers, which I am sure you already know. What this means? Both of them are just OK. They are basically on the same level with no noticeable differences. They are not bad by any means-- plenty of phones have worse bottom firing speakers, like the Samsung Galaxy S7 line-- but for an Audio- and Cinematography- focused phone like the V20 you'd expect the speakers to match the quality of the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack. If you are dead-set on getting good (or at least better) speaker performance on the V20, you can remove the bottom bezel and take off the dust cover that LG glued onto the speaker grille. I have never tried it, because it is a dust cover after all, but if you are willing to get that speaker quality boost then there are some online instructions on how to do so.
3). Build quality is MUCH better for the V20. It's not water resistant, but it has that MIL-STD-810G drop resistance that both the V10 and the recently released V30 have. The G5, in contrast, does not. Because the phone is so big, it also weighs more, and the removable battery mechanism is also much better, both in form and function. The metal is cool to the touch and the bezels, though noticeable, are actually quite thin. Just don't ask me why LG decided to put an earpiece on the top bezel instead of a speaker, because that would have rounded off the whole package. The G5 in comparison just feels cheap and insignificant. This is, of course, completely subjective, but I have always appreciated the look and feel of the V20. The S8 and G6 might look better to most people, but the V20 is not unlike a BMW M5- it looks like a regular sedan but it hides some serious stuff under the hood.
4). The G5 wins if you plan on using either device with one hand. That said, the V20 is HUGE- much bigger than the bezel-less dwarfs we see in 2017. Unless you have mammoth hands, the V20 is best operated with both hands-- not an issue for me, but for subway warriors, it could prove to be a challenge. The G5 is just smaller, and because it feels so cheap you don’t really worry about dropping it- ironic because the V20 has the 810G drop resistance, not the G5. The G5 is more practical for everyday usage, but the V20 feels better in the hand. Regardless, I would install a case on ANY phone I buy, because these are devices you are spending 250-300 dollars for.
5). I haven’t tried the B&O H3 headphones so I can’t say. As for the headphone jack- this is where the V20 shines. Basically the headphone jack includes a dedicated Digital-to-Audio Converter (LG calls it the “HiFi Quad DAC”) and Amplifier that is able to drive high impedance headphones to the degree that matches most standalone music players- DAPs that can cost in excess of 500-1000 dollars. I only have a pair of Phillips SHP9500s- 32 ohm impedance so they are not, by definition, “High Impedance” (the V20 adjusts DAC output based on the type of headphone connected, and 50 ohms is when the “High Impedance” mode kicks in), but the difference in audio quality and loudness is certainly noticeable.
6). I’d say the audio quality is about as good as the G5 with the B&O HiFi DAC module. It’s good to me, but I don’t have the audiophile grade headphones so I can’t really say. But it is certainly better than everything else on the market right now (except the V30, obviously), so there is that re-assurance that the V20 will play your music the way it was meant to be played.
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1). The V20 and G5 have similar screens. Obviously the V20 has 0.5" size advantage but is also much bigger in general, so it is not easy to use with one hand. In terms of pixel density, brightness and colors I can't tell much of a difference. If I had to pick, however, the V20 would win any day.
2). Both phones have single, bottom-firing speakers, which I am sure you already know. What this means? Both of them are just OK. They are basically on the same level with no noticeable differences. They are not bad by any means-- plenty of phones have worse bottom firing speakers, like the Samsung Galaxy S7 line-- but for an Audio- and Cinematography- focused phone like the V20 you'd expect the speakers to match the quality of the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack. If you are dead-set on getting good (or at least better) speaker performance on the V20, you can remove the bottom bezel and take off the dust cover that LG glued onto the speaker grille. I have never tried it, because it is a dust cover after all, but if you are willing to get that speaker quality boost then there are some online instructions on how to do so.
3). Build quality is MUCH better for the V20. It's not water resistant, but it has that MIL-STD-810G drop resistance that both the V10 and the recently released V30 have. The G5, in contrast, does not. Because the phone is so big, it also weighs more, and the removable battery mechanism is also much better, both in form and function. The metal is cool to the touch and the bezels, though noticeable, are actually quite thin. Just don't ask me why LG decided to put an earpiece on the top bezel instead of a speaker, because that would have rounded off the whole package. The G5 in comparison just feels cheap and insignificant. This is, of course, completely subjective, but I have always appreciated the look and feel of the V20. The S8 and G6 might look better to most people, but the V20 is not unlike a BMW M5- it looks like a regular sedan but it hides some serious stuff under the hood.
4). The G5 wins if you plan on using either device with one hand. That said, the V20 is HUGE- much bigger than the bezel-less dwarfs we see in 2017. Unless you have mammoth hands, the V20 is best operated with both hands-- not an issue for me, but for subway warriors, it could prove to be a challenge. The G5 is just smaller, and because it feels so cheap you don’t really worry about dropping it- ironic because the V20 has the 810G drop resistance, not the G5. The G5 is more practical for everyday usage, but the V20 feels better in the hand. Regardless, I would install a case on ANY phone I buy, because these are devices you are spending 250-300 dollars for.
5). I haven’t tried the B&O H3 headphones so I can’t say. As for the headphone jack- this is where the V20 shines. Basically the headphone jack includes a dedicated Digital-to-Audio Converter (LG calls it the “HiFi Quad DAC”) and Amplifier that is able to drive high impedance headphones to the degree that matches most standalone music players- DAPs that can cost in excess of 500-1000 dollars. I only have a pair of Phillips SHP9500s- 32 ohm impedance so they are not, by definition, “High Impedance” (the V20 adjusts DAC output based on the type of headphone connected, and 50 ohms is when the “High Impedance” mode kicks in), but the difference in audio quality and loudness is certainly noticeable.
6). I’d say the audio quality is about as good as the G5 with the B&O HiFi DAC module. It’s good to me, but I don’t have the audiophile grade headphones so I can’t really say. But it is certainly better than everything else on the market right now (except the V30, obviously), so there is that re-assurance that the V20 will play your music the way it was meant to be played.
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Thanks! Much appreciated input!
That 260€ for LG v20 sounds a hugely better deal than to put 160€ for repair center to change main board and battery for LG G5 and that wouldn't even fix the undeniable quality control issues with the screen that I've experienced with two LG G5, first one passed RMA but they couldn't get screen part so I got a whole new LG G5. Only to experience the exactly same problems 2-4 months later.
Are LG v20 screens better in terms of quality control? Hell even my old Samsung Galaxy S5 that I gave to my brother when I got G5 that is almost 3 years old with quite a lot of screen on time haven't had a single issues with screen. That's even under quite rough conditions.
Can't really say much about the reliability of the V20, since I've only had mine for around half a year. And I just bricked it over the weekend (deleted /system). You'll probably find out more through a Google search, but I haven't heard much about V20 reliability issues.
Are you buying the H918 T-mobile exclusive, or unlocked? Also, brand new or used? I'd say 260 euro is too expensive for T-mobile exclusive, brand new or not. Unlocked would be a great deal brand new.
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Can't really say much about the reliability of the V20, since I've only had mine for around half a year. And I just bricked it over the weekend (deleted /system). You'll probably find out more through a Google search, but I haven't heard much about V20 reliability issues.
Are you buying the H918 T-mobile exclusive, or unlocked? Also, brand new or used? I'd say 260 euro is too expensive for T-mobile exclusive, brand new or not. Unlocked would be a great deal brand new.
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It's h918 network unlocked at 260€ from hong kong
Listing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-V20-H9...7?var=&hash=item3f898babb1:g:r8IAAOSw41tZ4Cil
And brand new
Not bad I guess. As I am in the U.S. I highly recommend not buying from Hong Kong (many fraud listings on eBay) but since you are in the UK I don't know. Just be careful buying from international sellers.
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Not bad I guess. As I am in the U.S. I highly recommend not buying from Hong Kong (many fraud listings on eBay) but since you are in the UK I don't know. Just be careful buying from international sellers.
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Okay, well i'm not that afraid of frauds because it will be covered by EBay or paypal if product is not as listed
Do you know what model is the most custom rom friendly? I'm afraid if h918 that I buy has the latest security patch or so
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G6, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G6 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Got it activated first on Project Fi 3 days ago, for some reasons - I was "expecting" it to be a little bigger but it's just 2 clicks larger than the Nexus 5X getting traded in with the "generous" upgrade. For an entry/mid-range smartphone in 2018, I voted a 4 out of 5 (not that the absence of NFC or inability to use G.Pay is a make or break deal, I hardly use it & most places still do not accept it as mobile payment here in the US)
Dolby sound is very good, screen is bright & audio played via the speaker is fine - giving it a good workout as we hit the road today for a trip, more on the G6 later ... bootloader still locked at the moment.
Net cost to get this brand new G6 to me is about $120 after the trade-in, not really spend much more than paying someone to replace the old, tired & not as good 2.5 years old battery on the Nexus 5X, so I'm a little biased on this Lenovo/Motorola piece.
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Got it activated first on Project Fi 3 days ago, for some reasons - I was "expecting" it to be a little bigger but it's just 2 clicks larger than the Nexus 5X getting traded in with the "generous" upgrade. For an entry/mid-range smartphone in 2018, I voted a 4 out of 5 (not that the absence of NFC or inability to use G.Pay is a make or break deal, I hardly use it & most places still do not accept it as mobile payment here in the US)
Dolby sound is very good, screen is bright & audio played via the speaker is fine - giving it a good workout as we hit the road today for a trip, more on the G6 later ... bootloader still locked at the moment.
Net cost to get this brand new G6 to me is about $120 after the trade-in, not really spend much more than paying someone to replace the old, tired & not as good 2.5 years old battery on the Nexus 5X, so I'm a little biased on this Lenovo/Motorola piece.
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Similar thoughts as you (also running the Project Fi version of the phone).
- Phone is smaller than I expected.
- Loving the thin bezels, looks much more premium than the actual cost to me ($200)
- I don't use NFC. Don't trust it, so the lack of NFC is not a big deal
- Battery life is good, front facing speaker loud, screen is bright and sharp
- Responsiveness is in line with what you would expect from a $300-400 phone IMO
- Nearly stock Android experience = CLUTCH
Agree with others. Coming from a 5X most everything is acceptable given the price. I was blown away by the speaker. BUT my biggest gripe is the cameras low light performance...its not good by any means, very grainy, colors are bad. Regular outdoor pics are good though. Also wouldve preferred for it to NOT have a glass back since im a klutz and guaranteed to break it.
Have had this phone a couple of weeks now. Got to say I like it a lot. Definitely a step up from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 that I had for 3 years. This is also the most expensive phone (about $250) I've had as I'm a cheap skate and no way I'm ever paying $400 plus for a phone. Just can't bring myself to do it. The price I paid for this phone is "high dollar" for me, lol. Still getting used to the new 18x9 screen. A part of me likes it and a part of me likes 16x9 better. Since pretty much all phones are going to this size, I guess I better get used to it. The new screen size almost feels like a "cheater" to me. Moved the menu icons inside screen and made the width smaller making keyboard in portrait view (which is the way I text) actually a little smaller than what I had. Taller view but most stuff you view in landscape has bars so I don't see the benefit to it yet. Most comments I read about it, people love it. Me not so much. Phone itself is very good. Performance is very good, screen resolution is very good, camera is very good, battery life is very good (especially compared to my Redmi Note 2 which was a battery sucker). I like Android 8 and Moto apps. Pretty much bloatware free, and is nice and snappy. Had to put a case on it (put a Spigen on it) cause the phone actually felt a little small in my hands. The case gave it a little more bulk and made it feel a lot better in my hand. Love the fingerprint scanner which to me is the coolest thing since sliced bread (yup I'm a dinosaur). To tell the truth I would probably still be using the Note 2 but it started acting up on me. Now since I got this one though, it pretty much blows away my old phone in every way possible which of course is a good thing since I spent the bucks for a new phone. All in all I'm pretty damned happy with this phone. About the only thing I could say I wished it was, was a bigger phone. I went from a 5.5" 16x9 screen to a 5.7" 18x9 screen and this feels smaller than the other one to me in my hands. In the 18x9 size, I wish a had like a 6" or 6.5" screen. That would give more width that I would like to have. The width on the 16x9 was actually about 1/4" wider than the18x9 one, which is actually a substantial difference when using a keyboard.
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Have had this phone a couple of weeks now. Got to say I like it a lot. Definitely a step up from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 that I had for 3 years. This is also the most expensive phone (about $250) I've had as I'm a cheap skate and no way I'm ever paying $400 plus for a phone. Just can't bring myself to do it. The price I paid for this phone is "high dollar" for me, lol. Still getting used to the new 18x9 screen. A part of me likes it and a part of me likes 16x9 better. Since pretty much all phones are going to this size, I guess I better get used to it. The new screen size almost feels like a "cheater" to me. Moved the menu icons inside screen and made the width smaller making keyboard in portrait view (which is the way I text) actually a little smaller than what I had. Taller view but most stuff you view in landscape has bars so I don't see the benefit to it yet. Most comments I read about it, people love it. Me not so much. Phone itself is very good. Performance is very good, screen resolution is very good, camera is very good, battery life is very good (especially compared to my Redmi Note 2 which was a battery sucker). I like Android 8 and Moto apps. Pretty much bloatware free, and is nice and snappy. Had to put a case on it (put a Spigen on it) cause the phone actually felt a little small in my hands. The case gave it a little more bulk and made it feel a lot better in my hand. Love the fingerprint scanner which to me is the coolest thing since sliced bread (yup I'm a dinosaur). To tell the truth I would probably still be using the Note 2 but it started acting up on me. Now since I got this one though, it pretty much blows away my old phone in every way possible which of course is a good thing since I spent the bucks for a new phone. All in all I'm pretty damned happy with this phone. About the only thing I could say I wished it was, was a bigger phone. I went from a 5.5" 16x9 screen to a 5.7" 18x9 screen and this feels smaller than the other one to me in my hands. In the 18x9 size, I wish a had like a 6" or 6.5" screen. That would give more width that I would like to have. The width on the 16x9 was actually about 1/4" wider than the18x9 one, which is actually a substantial difference when using a keyboard.
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Great post, MikeO89...
Love your enthusiasm for the G6. It pretty much echoes mine.
I paid £220 here in the UK for mine, and like yourself, it's really about as much as I want to pay for a phone these days. There's been a considerable amount of coverage over the recent release of the Samsung Galaxy Note 9, and certainly the specs do look pretty damn awesome, but at close to nearly a £1000, an eye-watering sum of money for me... well, I just couldn't envisage spending that amount, even if I had it. Maybe when I have the next winning Euromillions lottery ticket, I'll buy one or whatever flagship is out then, but until that auspicious and lucky day arrives, I'm more than happy with my Moto G6.
And which I bought to replace my ageing and battery-dying HTC One M8, which I paid £530 for back in 2014. I remember my Dad at the time saying in almost stunned and amazed disbelief "You want to spend how much on a phone??!!!" as though he'd not quite heard me correctly. Of course, I did try to explain that it was more of a personal pocket computer that just happens to have the ability to make phone calls. After I bought one and he saw it in action and began to understand the capabilities of it... well, he went out and bought one himself!
That was four years ago, and I'm a little bit more price conscious these days, so when my One M8's battery began to die earlier this year, I knew I needed a new phone.
Initially, I made the mistake of assuming that you needed to spend £600 or £700 on a phone to get a quality device. I'd been hearing about the Moto G series phones and the rave reviews they'd received around a year before, so when I heard about this years G6 release, I checked out all the reviews. My initial response was one of skepticism ~ how can a company like Lenovo release a phone with such great features at just a shade over £200 AND make a profit. Surely there's a catch, I mean there has to be, right? Wrong!
As it turns out, the Moto G6 is every bit as good as the reviews say it is. And you don't need to mortgage your soul to own one. I mean, where do I begin... fast turbo charging, really nice vibrant colourful screen, amazing battery life, Android 8 Oreo with next-to-no bloat, and fingerprint unlock. Yeah, I love fingerprint unlock. It's like your very own personal ON switch that nobody else can use, and no more playing join-the-dots and trying to remember which unlock pattern is correct for this device amongst the other devices (tablets) I own.
As for the size and aspect ratio, I love it. Coming from my old HTC One M8 which had an aspect of 16:9 and a resolution of 1080x1920...
...to the Moto G6 with an aspect of 18:9 (Rhetorical question: why isn't it just simply called 2:1) and resolution of 1080x2160, which my calculations reveal to be a 12.5% increase based on number of pixels alone. It is a sort of a cheat, but I feel in a good way. I now have a phone that doesn't feel significantly bigger than my One M8, because the width has stayed the same, but the height has increased, but not by that much when you 'add-on' the One M8's speakers at the top and bottom, but the actual screen size increase on the G6 is quite noticeable.
I use Nova Launcher, and I like tinkering around with Themes, Icon Packs, Wallpapers and Layouts and with the increase vertically, I now have more layout options for things like icons and widgets, because there's an extra couple of rows on the Nova desktop. And 5.7 inches feels about right to me. I'm not sure I would feel comfortable handling something like a 6 inch or larger device. If I can, I like to operate my phone one-handed and the bigger these things get, the more difficult one-handed operation becomes.
I do take your point about black bars in landscape mode though, particularly if you're watching video content, most of which tends to be shot in 16:9 aspect. This doesn't overly bother me really, because I generally don't watch a lot of stuff on my phone anyway. And when I do, I just sort of ignore the black bars. I watch a lot of old films and TV dramas on my TV back when things were shot in 4:3 aspect, and I just got used to seeing left and right black bars on my TV, so on my phone it's really not an issue for me.
I guess we can quibble about the shortcomings of the G6 ~ for example, the one thing I do miss is the left and right stereo HTC BoomSound front facing speakers that provided great quality audio on my old One M8. On the G6 there's only a single mono speaker - it sounds pretty good, but I miss the stereo - gotta dig out my headphones now if I want stereo. Great that there's an old fashioned 3.5mm audio socket on it for me to use my headphones. Won't get that an some £1000 flagships! I jest of course; I'm not having a pop at flagship devices, I'm just amused by the irony of it.
So, on the whole, minor quibbles aside, the Moto G6 is a pretty amazing phone for such a great price. It performs brilliantly and looks great. The Gorilla Glass back adds a touch of class to the device, although it can feel a little bit slippery at times. When I first got it, I had unpleasant visions of it sliding out of my hand and crashing to the concrete outside and cracking all that beautiful glass (the horror, the horror!), so I have now ensconced it in the protective embrace of a Spigen case, which actually looks quite good, and feels good in the hand too.
Well, that pretty much says it all really. A great phone at a great price. Can't really say much more than that... Well, I could, but then I'd be here all night typing superlatives and this post would just go on and on and on and on, etc., etc. and etc.
Ged.
its not the fastest device but for a budget device I really like it.
Overall probably the best bang for your buck if your looking at carrier specific devices. Came from a Galaxy S7 which I kinda went swimming with. I'm loving the 18:9 screen. I do notice the occasional hiccup when multitasking, but the battery life is on another level compared to my old S7.
Love my North American unlocked G6! Great value for the money. The battery life is fine, but I suggest using a browser for some of your social media, if you want to get plenty of power for a day of use.
I've already gotten direct looks at my phone from other people, and some folks can't believe I paid less than $300 for it. Glad I chose the oyster finish vs deep indigo. I do have a case on it, as the glass back is known to crack easily if the phone falls hard on the ground. My B&H order came with a free frosted silicone case, and tempered glass for the screen. Perfect!
Coming from U11 life, this phone seems better.
VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling work out of the box with T-Mobile
Rather loud speaker
I think 2:1 screen is OK
It looks like plain Android
Cam looks OK under low light
Decent reception with B12
It's fast like 6xx processor.
Adjustable screen tint
I am satisfied with the phone for the price.
Cool looking..
I've manageg to buy mine G6 for 129EUR, for that price it's best device I could choose.
Great phone for ~$100 now on eBay that's still getting security updates.
Pros:
+ $100 now on eBay for like-new condition
+ Almost pure stock Android, very little bloat and what is there I actually use (chop twice for flashlight, etc). Very stable.
+ Great band support, unlocked XT1925-6 will work on any US carrier, only missing bands 14, 46, and 71.
+ 3gb RAM is plenty sufficient to keep about three resource-heavy apps active at once.
+ Camera is decent enough and about what you'd expect from a phone in this price range.
+ You can adjust DPI under developer options, which makes content on phone appear larger/smaller so you can fit more on-screen. Very handy.
Cons:
- SD450 is an obvious bottleneck in resource-heavy apps, expect sporadic lag if you're playing PUBGM or running a browser with ten tabs open.
- Battery life could be better, usually end the day around 20% with moderate use. Not bad, but not great either.
If this had a SD600 series and a slightly larger battery it'd easily be 5*. For $100 bucks though it's hard to be upset with it.
Well I found the first problem with this phone. I can't get it to recognize an external microphone to record with the camera. I plugged in an external mic I had (3.5mm with 4 pin plug) and at first thought it was working as I made a couple of videos. Then I noticed in the videos that the sound would go up and down through the video. As I later found out, the volume was going up and down each time I would walk away from the phone while recording being the external mic had a 6 ft cord on it. I then actually tested the external mic this time (like I should have from the beginning) and found out the whole time it was still recording with the onboard mic even with external mic plugged in. The G6 was just ignoring it as a microphone and treating it as a headphone. So now I'm stymied. The onboard mic works well enough but I really wanted to have an external mic if I wanted it. I can hardly find any info on this whole external mic vs onboard mic thing with cellphones. Still like this phone and plan on having it for quite some time but a little bummed about this latest development.
OK, doing a follow up post to the one above concerning the issue with G6 not recognizing external mic when making a video. I had about given up on this and I had been searching like crazy about it. With my lack on finding anyone having similar issues like this, I was starting to think I'm the only one who is trying to use an external mic with this phone to make videos. I thought maybe is was just a jack issue so I then tried same external mic with my voice recorder app. With that app the external mic was working. Now I knew it wasn't the jack. I then installed "Open Camera" from the Google Play Store. There was actually a setting in video settings to select an external mic for recording. I then went ahead and made another video using the external mic and what do you know it worked perfect! One other setting that I'm excited about so far in Open Camera is the video stabilization setting. I don't have the steadiest hands and always had to use a tripod or my videos would come out like being on a boat. Made one with that setting on and it kept the video still as I was shooting it. It made me look like my shake was gone (wish it really was). This Open Camera app just kicks the living **** out of the Moto G6 stock camera app! Sure glad I tried it.
Got one on Motorola promo for $100. Very nice inexpensive backup phone!