Hi All,
I have just installed a Klyde PX6 unit in my CX5 (with Bose). All is fine except for a GPS issue (built in). The GPS is showing a huge lag in position and speed updates as can be seen in the videos. One video shows same app running on Klyde unit and my mobile.
I need to send commands directly to the MT3337 GPS chip or replace it with a non averaging unit (real time/ live updates). It would be good if I can access the NMEA data stream to confirm it's the GPS chipset/module or the the android service being delayed/not serviced regular enough.
Klyde unfortunately have been a little more than useless with their engineer saying its normal GPS behaviour. Maybe for China but not for the rest of the world. I sold GPS modules for 10 years and never saw this behaviour.
Any clues on how to address this?
You should use the GPS mouse which has been delivered with the unit, instead of using the OEM on the roof.
You would have the same behavior with most OEM installed GPS antennas, independent of the car.
I am using the supplied GPS antenna.. there is no way to interface the tomtom Mazda factory one.
malster181 said:
I am using the supplied GPS antenna.. there is no way to interface the tomtom Mazda factory one.
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I am using the supplied GPS antenna.. there is no way to interface the tomtom Mazda factory one.
This PX6 is using a MT3337 chipset. I'll try interfacing to the NMEA (TX DATA) stream from the MT3337 and see if it is delayed at that point. If so, then it's a config issue in the MT3337. If it's not delayed there, then it's a Klyde issue.
Also discovered the ODB2 Bluetooth interface is not working.
Illumination wasn't working originally, I had to put a 4.7K resistor to ground as it wasn't pulling low enough for it to register lights were off...
Not been a great experience with this Klyde thing. Was looking forward to importing them for resale, but not now if this is the sample unit performance.
malster181 said:
This PX6 is using a MT3337 chipset. I'll try interfacing to the NMEA (TX DATA) stream from the MT3337 and see if it is delayed at that point. If so, then it's a config issue in the MT3337. If it's not delayed there, then it's a Klyde issue.
Also discovered the ODB2 Bluetooth interface is not working.
Illumination wasn't working originally, I had to put a 4.7K resistor to ground as it wasn't pulling low enough for it to register lights were off...
Not been a great experience with this Klyde thing. Was looking forward to importing them for resale, but not now if this is the sample unit performance.
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tbh... I still have 3 different Klyde units working in car and bench and had some more in the past.
None of your reported issues have ever been observed on any of my units.
OBD2 BT issues are only if you bonded any phone before you added the BT stick. BTW... not all sticks are working. That is a common thing in Chinese radios.
btw... If you have any issues, you just should ask Klyde. They are really responsive, at least if you ask Fany.
Hi Rigatoni,
As I said, I have asked and they are not so helpful. Insisting the GPS functionality is normal. If I drive atv60k/hr and stop, GPS takes up to 15 secs to show a stop or slow down. I have sold GPS in a past life both commercial and military and never seen such a lag before. Even old SiRF and Siny chipsets are so much faster.
Klyde did give the pinout if the GPS module, so I'll start but analysis of the MT3337 data stream. I have a few other GPS modules here I can try pop in it.
Anyone know if there is a config file in Android or the Klyde somewhere that sends the commands to the GPS module to set it up, eg set buad rate, sample rate etc? Or is the MT3337 just running default settings?
As for the ODB2 I wasn't aware of that issue, and again Klyde hadn't advised of it. The ELM unit was also supplied by Klyde. So how do I undo the hijacking of the serial port by a phone and release it for ODB2…? Factory reset?
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Hi Rigatoni,
As I said, I have asked and they are not so helpful. Insisting the GPS functionality is normal. If I drive atv60k/hr and stop, GPS takes up to 15 secs to show a stop or slow down. I have sold GPS in a past life both commercial and military and never seen such a lag before. Even old SiRF and Siny chipsets are so much faster.
Klyde did give the pinout if the GPS module, so I'll start but analysis of the MT3337 data stream. I have a few other GPS modules here I can try pop in it.
Anyone know if there is a config file in Android or the Klyde somewhere that sends the commands to the GPS module to set it up, eg set buad rate, sample rate etc? Or is the MT3337 just running default settings?
As for the ODB2 I wasn't aware of that issue, and again Klyde hadn't advised of it. The ELM unit was also supplied by Klyde. So how do I undo the hijacking of the serial port by a phone and release it for ODB2…? Factory reset?
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Strange with your GPS... never seen that. I use TomTom in my units and it doesn´t lag more than 1 second in bad cases.
To change the GPS module you need to get into the rooted system. Out of memory I don´t know the exact path. I also have only a PX6 on hand, but this has a complete different MCU and I don´t know if this is the same. Will have a look tomorrow after the files for it to change.
To get the phone off of the unit, you need to first of all close BT connection on your phone.
Then remove start the radio and remove the connection from the radio... completely.
Shut down the radio
Turn BT on your phone on and remove the connection in your phone.
Close BT on your phone again or shut it down.
Put in the OBD2 dongle in your car
Turn the radio on and set the PIN to 0000 or 1234 (depends on the dongle) There are no other possible PINs available, just one of these 2 written in here.
Search for the OBD2 and connect to it.
Start BT on your phone and search from the phone!!!
Enter the PIN as written and that´s it.
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Will have a look tomorrow after the files for it to change.
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Hi rigattoni,
By chance did you get around to looking at this?
Ok so I have installed a different chipset (oh and seems Klyde didn't even know what GPS chipset is in their unit, as it's not MT3337 as they advised), and the result is the same.
So it's a Android issue, maybe the location service NMEA data queue is not being cleared it refreshed fast enough. I don't know enough about Android to know how it works, but I gather the NMEA data from GNSS module is read and saved or queued somewhere, then this is read by the location.service routine when required.
I could also be that the GPVTG sentence is being dropped by Android, are the NMEA sentences accepted by Android location service filtered?
Can anyone help here where to look it's even possible with unrooted unit ?
Cheers,
Mal
rigattoni said:
You should use the GPS mouse which has been delivered with the unit, instead of using the OEM on the roof.
You would have the same behavior with most OEM installed GPS antennas, independent of the car.
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Indeed I'm experiencing this problem (lag) while using an adapter and the OEM roof GPS antenna... Why is that?? It's a pity because OEM antenna is perfectly placed and concealed...
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Indeed I'm experiencing this problem (lag) while using an adapter and the OEM roof GPS antenna... Why is that?? It's a pity because OEM antenna is perfectly placed and concealed...
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I just know out of tests that I had the best results with the GPS mouse.
All external antennas I tested have been worse.
Hello,
I have exactly the same problem.
It's also from Klyde with a PX6.
Is there a solution?
Figo Emilio said:
Hello,
I have exactly the same problem.
It's also from Klyde with a PX6.
Is there a solution?
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Solution for what?
GPS?
You should give some more information...
Exact unit number you buyed
MCU
Android version
Sorry.
A solution for the delayed GPS signal.
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hi guys
new to the forum, hopefully someone will be able to help me
my unit has stock MTCC-KLD6-V2.97 Aug 02 2016 with a RK3188 and 1024x600 screen
Firstly the Bluetooth is not working, quite a lot of apps hang at the part where it try's to turn the BT on, especially one app i really need to work.
I honestly don't know what model of BT chip is installed in the head unit, apparently its BT 4.0 as listed on there website
I have been into the factory menu and changed the BT from WQ_BC6 to WQ_BC6B (as suggested somewhere in this forum) but it has made no change and the BT is still hanging at powering on.
Eonon have told me that the Bluetooth only work with devices that don't require a pin and the radar detector device i need to connect does not require a pin but still it does not work.
Not quite sure if eonon has set the setting wrong and i need to change it or i need to goto a custom rom or I need to pull the unit apart to find out.
Found someone else having trouble getting there ALPconnect app to work aswell on these units, in know ALPconnect wont work on older unit like the 4.4.4 as they only had BT 2.0 and the ALP BT only supports 4.0, but this android unit has 4.0 so it should not be a problem but it is.
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The app I use, ALPConnect, does the exact same thing. Fortunately, the hardware on mine includes a hardwired speaker and GPS setup that work standalone. The benefit of the app was to get a nice big visual notification of a trap, as it would come into focus, duck the audio and play an alarm. It would also report the frequency of the radar and the type of laser hitting me. While I can get by without all that, I can't have the music blaring like I usually do, as the little speaker is only so loud and the Joying head unit doesn't have Mute Input wire to duck the audio.
While this is going slightly off topic, you may want to look into the AL Priority, it can interface with your V1 too and you will also gain laser protection. This thing has saved my a** countless times and paid for itself already many times over.
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Secondly the control menu in the android head unit for accessing the cars buttons via cambus does not work, all steering wheels button seem to communicate back and work, but i cannot set my clock on my mazda 3.
Also have noticed that the radio wont mute when notification occur or when using other apps like google maps, no way to set the different volumes in this stock rom. Have played around with the factory menu volumes but it makes no diffidence.
Is it viable and worth changing to a different ROM, like Malaysk? or should i message eonon?
any help would be much appreciated
thanks
shane
I'm having exactly the same issue with a Pumpkin MTCC-KLD6-V2.91. (RK3188/1024x600)
The device I want to pair with appears in Bluetooth settings (with a phone icon?) but connecting to it does nothing. It's just a Bluetooth SPP device, like so many other devices.
Malaysk's ROM (from 7/25) doesn't change anything here.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
-Zandr
zandrm said:
I'm having exactly the same issue with a Pumpkin MTCC-KLD6-V2.91. (RK3188/1024x600)
The device I want to pair with appears in Bluetooth settings (with a phone icon?) but connecting to it does nothing. It's just a Bluetooth SPP device, like so many other devices.
Malaysk's ROM (from 7/25) doesn't change anything here.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
-Zandr
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Waiting on a reply from Eonon, but initial news is not good.
Some serious BT issues in this model the MTCC
Anyone know if any Malaysk's Rom's avalable for the MTCC-KLD6-V2.91 that have no BT issues
I'm having the same issue, though my unit (MTCC KLD6) does not show any devices at all to pair with, and the car unit does not appear on my phone.
I'm wondering - if I take a usb BT dongle and attach it to the usb cable, would that work?
I think it might be another issue with your BT, it should connect to your phone at very least.
Have you had a look in your factory menu to see if the MCU has the Bluetooth option set?
Password for me was 126
Unfortunately the unit does not support external USB Bluetooth and probably never will, unless the manufacturer MTC/Klyde adds the required drivers to the unit or a Awesome developer by some stroke of luck here adds it to the unit. I doubt to see the feature in this unit
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, i checked to make sure Bluetooth was enabled in the system settings. I've tried a few of them (change setting, reboot, attempt pairing), i guess the next step is to try them all one by one to rule that out. I've sent an email to the seller to see if they have any ideas.
The vendor told me to connect the Key-1 & Key-2 wires from the canbus to the car, not sure why they'd think that would solve BT issues?
Did this fix the issue? I'm unable to see any Bluetooth devices and other Bluetooth devices don't see it.
Sorry to dig up an old thread
I have the Eonon GA2180a (android 10) - and having similar issues to here
I want to pair a bluetooth remote (read, steering wheel controls) to the head unit, but the bluetooth search just shows blank! I can connect to it using my phone but it appears some things are hidden to connect to with these android units? Looks like the bluetooth 'app' is the only way to connect too, theres nothing in the android settings to access a bluetooth menu or anything.
Did anyone get anywhere with this ?
cheers
XTRONS Android 8.0 Octa Core 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM Multimedia DVD Player with 8" Display Custom Fit for Volkswagen | Seat | Skoda
I think you forgot to write your question or complaint about your cheap chinese car radio.
Pretty much what I am looking at just a universal double din.
Ask for this unit
I want to ask for this unit have a equalaizer and how band if have and have a sub woofer control level.?anyone know something because the official company don't know hi hi:Π
Yes have a equalaized band FM ,AM
Thank u for ur reply but me I ask is not for this band am fm but the equaliser band areas and the other questions is have a sub control level me old unit eonon ga6153f have this u know to tell me? Thanks.
I have this unit installed and yes, it has a software equalizer. It's 9 band with subwoofer control.
Does anyone have any issues connecting the head unit to their phone's WiFi hotspot?
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I have this unit installed and yes, it has a software equalizer. It's 9 band with subwoofer control.
Does anyone have any issues connecting the head unit to their phone's WiFi hotspot?
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Did a firmware update which was provided by Xtrons support, and also there's an issue with Tasker if you have Tasker automatically start your hotspot when it detects your phone connecting to the unit's bluetooth. You need to install an additional Tasker plugin to fix this, it's called "Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control".
I have the same unit. Is there a way to prevent all apps from closing when the unit goes into sleep mode?
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I have the same unit. Is there a way to prevent all apps from closing when the unit goes into sleep mode?
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Mine doesn't do that, so I'm not sure.
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Mine doesn't do that, so I'm not sure.
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I think I will put all apps I want to run on startup on the first tab then. Even tasker doesn't boot at startup/wake up.
Which firmware do you run now?
How good is this unit?
Pros and cons?
I'm thinking on putting this one on a LEON MK2 2007
VoRtAn_MaDgE said:
How good is this unit?
Pros and cons?
I'm thinking on putting this one on a LEON MK2 2007
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I am pretty glad about this unit. Android has so much more options and capabilities than my older RNS510 unit.
Some cons that I have experienced is that the unit sometimes restarts itself. I am not sure yet what causes that.
And sometimes when I open multiple apps in a short period of time the unit freezes. The only way I got it to restart is to push the power button for +- 10 seconds.
In the 1 or 2 months that I have this unit, this only occcured 2 or 3 times.
One small little thing is that I wanted to use TomTom Navigation but the 3D view shows a blanco map with only the street names. So I just use Google Maps now.
And I found it very hard to get a decent reception with the DAB+ Antenna from Xtrons.
Overall I am glad with the unit. It is definitely an upgrade compared to my older version of the RNS510.
This unit responds very quickly and has a lot of options.
Let us know what your choice will be!
I'm thinking of getting one of these. What is the boot time?
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Rvnbrg said:
I am pretty glad about this unit. Android has so much more options and capabilities than my older RNS510 unit.
Some cons that I have experienced is that the unit sometimes restarts itself. I am not sure yet what causes that.
And sometimes when I open multiple apps in a short period of time the unit freezes. The only way I got it to restart is to push the power button for +- 10 seconds.
In the 1 or 2 months that I have this unit, this only occcured 2 or 3 times.
One small little thing is that I wanted to use TomTom Navigation but the 3D view shows a blanco map with only the street names. So I just use Google Maps now.
And I found it very hard to get a decent reception with the DAB+ Antenna from Xtrons.
Overall I am glad with the unit. It is definitely an upgrade compared to my older version of the RNS510.
This unit responds very quickly and has a lot of options.
Let us know what your choice will be!
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If you really want to improve your DAB+ you got to find your antenna amplifier in your car and it should look like this... https://www.kufatec.de/shop/media/images/popup/DAB-Antennensplitter-fuer-VW-Golf-7.jpg it fits almost in every Volkswagen/Audi/Seat or Skoda
If so, you have to swap your FM amplifier with a DAB+/FM amplifier, i know Calearo ain't cheap but is european made and it works really well in my car, and i had to install a sharkfin antenna to receive DAB+ and GPS because i had no other option. (sorry for the many adjusted posts, technical problems)
Want to upgrade my android 4.4 MTCB - I use Tomtom as navigation. The PB88UNVP is interesting as is had 4GB RAM. I've read android 8 units have problems with the 3D navigation of Tomtom. Is there a known fix for Tomtom, or is it possible to install Android 7 on this device (don't know if there's a (custom) ROM that works with this device).
ok, got a PB88UNVP. Tomtom - no 3D navigation. Will use an other navigation app.
Unit works fine, but the WIFI connection is not reliable. When waking up, the unit tries to connect to a access point. Sometimes that functions without any problems, but other times it doesn't find any access points (while I know there are). Turning wifi on or off does not help. From time to time, the wifi can't be turned on or off (seems to be frozen on the on/off toggle switch).
I like the unit, bit the wifi problem is a big problem for me. Is this a known bug / problem with this or other devices?
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ok, got a PB88UNVP. Tomtom - no 3D navigation. Will use an other navigation app.
Unit works fine, but the WIFI connection is not reliable. When waking up, the unit tries to connect to a access point. Sometimes that functions without any problems, but other times it doesn't find any access points (while I know there are). Turning wifi on or off does not help. From time to time, the wifi can't be turned on or off (seems to be frozen on the on/off toggle switch).
I like the unit, bit the wifi problem is a big problem for me. Is this a known bug / problem with this or other devices?
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yes getting the same problem on Xtrons PE88jccpl (Android 8, Octa Core) sometimes the wifi connects perfectly but other times getting authenticating, authentication errors. Also, having problems with the speed when its connected it starts out fast and perfect but slows down to .2 to .3 mbps after a couple of minutes. Xtrons support sent me a link to update and I updated both MCU and android but still getting issues. (I put the img and update.zip on a usb stick and once I inserted it asked if I wanted to update) Not sure if I am supposed to wipe the device after updating android
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yes getting the same problem on Xtrons PE88jccpl (Android 8, Octa Core) sometimes the wifi connects perfectly but other times getting authenticating, authentication errors. Also, having problems with the speed when its connected it starts out fast and perfect but slows down to .2 to .3 mbps after a couple of minutes. Xtrons support sent me a link to update and I updated both MCU and android but still getting issues. (I put the img and update.zip on a usb stick and once I inserted it asked if I wanted to update) Not sure if I am supposed to wipe the device after updating android
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Thanks for your reaction. I also received the download link for this update. MCU 2.88_3 and Android image with build date 20180703.
I installed this update this morning. Checked the wipe everything' option to be sure to have a clean install.
Had the wifi not connecting 2 times today with the new update
I've not noticed the speed collapsing. I did download navigation maps (couple of GB) without problems. When the Wifi does function it functions well, the next time the system wakes up from sleep it's an about 50% chance it functions.
Have you tried downloading the speed test app to test?
Hi,
I am trying to buy an android head unit from aliexpress for my bmw f30 2013. Very few sellers answer questions and not to the point.
e.g.
1) does it supports after market front camera through RCA input and how easy is to select it? (e.g. does it appear automatically right after reverse gear)
2) does it support can bus messages or do I need a can bus converter. I have already tried 2 multimedia interfaces (IW06B-N23 and QHI-BM12) but they dont trigger the camera. So how to be sure that the same will not happen with the android head unit
3) which MCU is used in order to see if I will be able to find updated firmware on xda forum
4) will I hear oem radio during google maps navigation (hearing also google maps directions)
5) will it connect automatically to my iphone hotspot for internet
6) will it work for iphone 11.2 mirroring
7) will it show perfectly the oem screen
8) would I be able to use steering wheel controls for bluetooth and which bluetooth will I be able to use? the OEM one or the Android one?
9) would I be able to use idrive in google maps
All of the above I believe are very basic information that you cannot get from sellers. I dont understand how they sell or I am missing something here.
Is there anyone here with similar problems so we can help each other?
Regards,
Mike
With a name like Mike, you're maybe English or American? I really suggest buying locally. You'll pay £/$30 more but you'll get a warranty and protection from your local trading laws. Buying from China is a game of Russian roulette. I bought an Erisin from China before and it was absolutely fine. Lucky that, because one I bought from England was not fine, and I had to return it. Had it been the other way round, I'd have been in a world of trouble and £100+ down the ****ter.
1) does it supports after market front camera through RCA input and how easy is to select it? (e.g. does it appear automatically right after reverse gear)
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On mine, there's a setting for it to switch back to the front camera after the rear camera has been operating.
2) does it support can bus messages or do I need a can bus converter. I have already tried 2 multimedia interfaces (IW06B-N23 and QHI-BM12) but they dont trigger the camera. So how to be sure that the same will not happen with the android head unit
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It will come with a canbus decoder unit. Any unit worth it's salt will work correctly with your PDC system. Mine does.
3) which MCU is used in order to see if I will be able to find updated firmware on xda forum
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MCU is not important. It's the brand that puts out firmware updates. Xtrons, Joying and Eonon have fairly solid reputations for their updates. Xtrons have put out 5 so far for my unit. Erisin have a fairly flakey reputation. The rest are going to be a complete gamble and more likely you'll lose.
4) will I hear oem radio during google maps navigation (hearing also google maps directions)
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OEM radio? You're removing the OEM radio and replacing it with this. If you mean will you hear the radio and maps, yes, the maps software dips the volume in a very polite way
5) will it connect automatically to my iphone hotspot for internet
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Firstly, sack off the iPhone, it's crap and there's so many things you can do with Android that work with this unit (mine triggers the hotspot on and off when i get in and out of the car). In answer to your question, yes, you can connect it to your hotspot.
6) will it work for iphone 11.2 mirroring
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Only if the product spec says it will.
7) will it show perfectly the oem screen
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OEM screen?
8) would I be able to use steering wheel controls for bluetooth and which bluetooth will I be able to use? the OEM one or the Android one?
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Steering wheel controls work yep and they work with the calling.... at least mine do in my 3 series.
9) would I be able to use idrive in google maps
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You're mixing two entirely different software packages up here.
To conclude, if your car has iDrive. I wouldn't go anywhere near one of these systems, it'll be a ****ing minefield making it work. If yours is non iDrive, like mine, then it'll fit perfectly with no issues
Thank you for the supplied information. I am from Greece/EU and locally there are no such products.
Chinese solutions for BMW F30 are mainly changing only the screen (which is detachable) and the new one includes all the features inside the screen, so the main OEM function remain in-place.
I would take a look at xtrons as I have seen various posts here and they have a decent website hoping to receive updates but I dont know yet if they have an EU warehouse because import taxes is my country are very high. My concern stays for idrive and canbus integration mainly because I have already tested 2 other types of interface and non of them worked.
Lets see if xtrons will reply on aliexpress with more to the point questions!
skezza said:
With a name like Mike, you're maybe English or American? I really suggest buying locally. You'll pay £/$30 more but you'll get a warranty and protection from your local trading laws. Buying from China is a game of Russian roulette. I bought an Erisin from China before and it was absolutely fine. Lucky that, because one I bought from England was not fine, and I had to return it. Had it been the other way round, I'd have been in a world of trouble and £100+ down the ****ter.
On mine, there's a setting for it to switch back to the front camera after the rear camera has been operating.
It will come with a canbus decoder unit. Any unit worth it's salt will work correctly with your PDC system. Mine does.
MCU is not important. It's the brand that puts out firmware updates. Xtrons, Joying and Eonon have fairly solid reputations for their updates. Xtrons have put out 5 so far for my unit. Erisin have a fairly flakey reputation. The rest are going to be a complete gamble and more likely you'll lose.
OEM radio? You're removing the OEM radio and replacing it with this. If you mean will you hear the radio and maps, yes, the maps software dips the volume in a very polite way
Firstly, sack off the iPhone, it's crap and there's so many things you can do with Android that work with this unit (mine triggers the hotspot on and off when i get in and out of the car). In answer to your question, yes, you can connect it to your hotspot.
Only if the product spec says it will.
OEM screen?
Steering wheel controls work yep and they work with the calling.... at least mine do in my 3 series.
You're mixing two entirely different software packages up here.
To conclude, if your car has iDrive. I wouldn't go anywhere near one of these systems, it'll be a ****ing minefield making it work. If yours is non iDrive, like mine, then it'll fit perfectly with no issues
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Your car has iDrive? Be very careful. Those systems are so much more complicated. The reason the non-iDrive works is because it's actually still a simple system. It's just a whole bunch of relays triggered by other relays and a few more relays and then somewhere there's a computer that does it all. iDrive has it's own dedicated computer which does so much more and offers so much more functionality, and that's where you might find problems. Getting those two systems integrated could be an absolute minefield.
mnikitas said:
Hi,
I am trying to buy an android head unit from aliexpress for my bmw f30 2013. Very few sellers answer questions and not to the point.
e.g.
1) does it supports after market front camera through RCA input and how easy is to select it? (e.g. does it appear automatically right after reverse gear)
2) does it support can bus messages or do I need a can bus converter. I have already tried 2 multimedia interfaces (IW06B-N23 and QHI-BM12) but they dont trigger the camera. So how to be sure that the same will not happen with the android head unit
3) which MCU is used in order to see if I will be able to find updated firmware on xda forum
4) will I hear oem radio during google maps navigation (hearing also google maps directions)
5) will it connect automatically to my iphone hotspot for internet
6) will it work for iphone 11.2 mirroring
7) will it show perfectly the oem screen
8) would I be able to use steering wheel controls for bluetooth and which bluetooth will I be able to use? the OEM one or the Android one?
9) would I be able to use idrive in google maps
All of the above I believe are very basic information that you cannot get from sellers. I dont understand how they sell or I am missing something here.
Is there anyone here with similar problems so we can help each other?
Regards,
Mike
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Not sure if you are still around or found more info but the above posts are incorrect. The unit you are buying is more than likely the 10.25 screen upgrade with Android built in. It will work in tandem with idrive....everything works and it is easy install and upgrade.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-...00a8-4760-8b00-b2efeaa2fb7e&priceBeautifyAB=0
So a stupid question, it seems there are several Chinese companies that sell these 10.25" Android panels for the F30 BMW. Though the interface looks exactly the same despite who made the tablet, is there really a difference in the ROM image between makes? The one I have is from COG Android (atleast that is what the Bluetooth ID says). I have had in other cars Joying and ITOPWay, are they really something different ( I almost suspect they are the same company)?
mnikitas said:
Hi,
I am trying to buy an android head unit from aliexpress for my bmw f30 2013. Very few sellers answer questions and not to the point.
e.g.
1) does it supports after market front camera through RCA input and how easy is to select it? (e.g. does it appear automatically right after reverse gear)
2) does it support can bus messages or do I need a can bus converter. I have already tried 2 multimedia interfaces (IW06B-N23 and QHI-BM12) but they dont trigger the camera. So how to be sure that the same will not happen with the android head unit
3) which MCU is used in order to see if I will be able to find updated firmware on xda forum
4) will I hear oem radio during google maps navigation (hearing also google maps directions)
5) will it connect automatically to my iphone hotspot for internet
6) will it work for iphone 11.2 mirroring
7) will it show perfectly the oem screen
8) would I be able to use steering wheel controls for bluetooth and which bluetooth will I be able to use? the OEM one or the Android one?
9) would I be able to use idrive in google maps
All of the above I believe are very basic information that you cannot get from sellers. I dont understand how they sell or I am missing something here.
Is there anyone here with similar problems so we can help each other?
Regards,
Mike
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Hi,
you can have a look below dasaita plug and play products hence it is the most popular and reliable android seller on the market ;
https://dasaita.aliexpress.com/stor...l?spm=a2g1y.12024536.pcShopHead_5904672.1_2_1
cheers.
Hello. guys
i got hold of a TPMS kit from Teyes. 4 tpms in tyre sensors, and usb reciver device with usb. i also got the Teyes cc2plus head unit.
My problem is that i have to sets of tyres. Winter/summer. So teyes or other brands that supports android 10. only ship with one set of 4 sensors.
I Have a Autel MaxiTPMS TS508 unit. I tried to read the sensor but faild to read. As i know the sensor is on 433mhz. and like other china products no markings or numbers.
I would think it was a easy job to just read the sensor and wright to a new one. so then you would have 2 duplicate sets. but no.
I am hoping some of you have the knowledge to help me.
tikkis said:
Hello. guys
i got hold of a TPMS kit from Teyes. 4 tpms in tyre sensors, and usb reciver device with usb. i also got the Teyes cc2plus head unit.
My problem is that i have to sets of tyres. Winter/summer. So teyes or other brands that supports android 10. only ship with one set of 4 sensors.
I Have a Autel MaxiTPMS TS508 unit. I tried to read the sensor but faild to read. As i know the sensor is on 433mhz. and like other china products no markings or numbers.
I would think it was a easy job to just read the sensor and wright to a new one. so then you would have 2 duplicate sets. but no.
I am hoping some of you have the knowledge to help me.
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What about the teyes thread that discusses your unit. You have to put some effort in on xda, there are no guys
First contact for support is Teyes, what did they suggest you do before returning defective product
I'd like to read my factory(!) TPMS sensors with my android head unit. Since OBD2 dongles don't seem to provide TPMS data (shame...), I think buying an aftermarket TPMS set, solely for the USB receiver unit. Since I can read TPMS data using my RTL-SDR dongle from my PC with no problem, it may be working, just a question of configuration.
And yes, "question of configuration". Did anyone around here have experiments / experience with such an USB receiver unit? Or am I just overcomplicating things?
@hurjup
Check the CAN settings in your unit. The OEM TPMS data are provided via CAN.
Depends on the car if the CAN box is able to translate these data to be able to see that in your radio.
rigattoni said:
@hurjup
Check the CAN settings in your unit. The OEM TPMS data are provided via CAN.
Depends on the car if the CAN box is able to translate these data to be able to see that in your radio.
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Could you explain a bit "can box"?
For the very same(?) head units sometimes an additional box (can box?) was provided and sometimes not. Amyway, I didn't receive anything like that for my suzuki s-cross, which looks normal to me. Is it embedded into the unit (which doesn't implement TPMS reading)? Or is it not needed for general functionality?
In short, knowing my car type, can I improve the situation with TPMS, or it is better just let it go?
Thank you in advance...
Well...
I don´t know if your unit has an internal CAN-Box or not. Please ask your reseller.
Nevertheless:
Even your suzuki s-cross should provide these data via CAN.
So possible issues could be:
No CAN-box internal or external (but I expect to get clamp 15, Reverse gear and some other stuff to be provided by any can box)
CAN settings in the unit are wrong
Wrong car set
wrong CAN box set
But most of the time you run into the issue that the CAN box (internal or external) does not translate these data. (most of the cars are not supported for data more than SW-Buttons, Clamp 15, Reverse gear, e-brake)
You should contact your reseller and ask if there is a CAN Adapter available which decodes these data for your car.
I searched already, but did not find any for your car which should be able to do what you want.
I vote for the "CAN box does not translate these data" option. I've contacted my seller, but expect multiple rounds when it tries to google translate "can type" or "can adapter" before hitting a dead end. I don't expect any resolution of this problem through support, simply because the product page wanted to sell me an aftermarket TPMS set for my particular car type.
Some time possibly I'll make a try with such a set, maybe an app dev was lazy enough to adapt rtl_433 with minimal modifications and it will just work.
You´re not allone...
For my Mitsubishi I even don´t get the door open messages and climate control through the CAN box.
Even intire OEM TPMS is not visible. Just visible in the cluster. It is available on CAN, but not translated.
If you would own a VW Golf as example, you would get all this stuff on your unit....so guess why no one get´s on the CAN traces and translates the signals for cars which are not sold that often...
Hi!
I recently bought a Junsun V1 Pro 4GB + 64GB. And I got, like many other problem with microphone quality. Thanks to (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ooth-phone-calls-junsun-v1-pro.4166471/page-3) I solved that problem.
And in the process i got new firmware from junsun and updated.
And then i connected headunit in car again and then FM stopped working. (Which was working perfect for a couple of weeks when troubleshooting bad microphone quality)
When starting the unit and then radio app there is a brief noise from radio that fades away quick. The channels are set to 0. And nothing happens if i try to scan for new.
I have triplechecked the connection to antenna, I measured the adapter for cable breaks.
I have tried a ton of settings in 8878.
I'll post screen of current settings, please help me troubleshoot this!
f3zz said:
Hi!
I recently bought a Junsun V1 Pro 4GB + 64GB. And I got, like many other problem with microphone quality. Thanks to (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ooth-phone-calls-junsun-v1-pro.4166471/page-3) I solved that problem.
And in the process i got new firmware from junsun and updated.
And then i connected headunit in car again and then FM stopped working. (Which was working perfect for a couple of weeks when troubleshooting bad microphone quality)
When starting the unit and then radio app there is a brief noise from radio that fades away quick. The channels are set to 0. And nothing happens if i try to scan for new.
I have triplechecked the connection to antenna, I measured the adapter for cable breaks.
I have tried a ton of settings in 8878.
I'll post screen of current settings, please help me troubleshoot this!
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Hi, first things first...
Antenna. It must be connected to a mass (zero) of car in order to work so check that first.
Second... Change Radio chip in system settings and see if it is misconfigured. TDA 7851 is the common one used in this devices.
P.S. in image I see that RDS is OFF turn this ON !
Anton TNT said:
Hi, first things first...
Antenna. It must be connected to a mass (zero) of car in order to work so check that first.
Second... Change Radio chip in system settings and see if it is misconfigured. TDA 7851 is the common one used in this devices.
P.S. in image I see that RDS is OFF turn this ON !
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Hi Anton, thanks for engaging with me!
When you talk about the mass connection, do you mean at the antenna side or on the head unit?
I'll try the TDA 7851 with RDS On, but i've already tried a ton of combinations in this menu since problem started.
I thought that reset to factory would also reset these settings but unfortunatley it only reset android.
Anyone know how to get these settings to factory?
Antenna works in that way that when jack is connected into antenna port mass of the car / or units mass - metal casing gives contact. But if it is not antenna case here and double checked, you can also check for a faulty GPS antenna if you have one , if faulty it can freeze radio , I had this problem on my old device. Go to GPS antenna test app and see if signal is constant with at least three satellites if not disconnect GPS antenna from unit and open radio app, see if works without GPS antenna. If yes, replace GPS antenna, buy new one.
f3zz said:
Hi Anton, thanks for engaging with me!
When you talk about the mass connection, do you mean at the antenna side or on the head unit?
I'll try the TDA 7851 with RDS On, but i've already tried a ton of combinations in this menu since problem started.
I thought that reset to factory would also reset these settings but unfortunatley it only reset android.
Anyone know how to get these settings to factory?
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For IC Type values i only have these - ST 7786, NX 6686, Si 4702, QN8035,474X, 7708, 7703
And I have now tried all of them, with RDS ON.
Anton TNT said:
Antenna works in that way that when jack is connected into antenna port mass of the car / or units mass - metal casing gives contact. But if it is not antenna case here and double checked, you can also check for a faulty GPS antenna if you have one , if faulty it can freeze radio , I had this problem on my old device. Go to GPS antenna test app and see if signal is constant with at least three satellites if not disconnect GPS antenna from unit and open radio app, see if works without GPS antenna. If yes, replace GPS antenna, buy new one.
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Ok, I quadruple checked the antennaport mass and checked GPS on which i have aprox 30 satellites.
Something with update changed your RADIO chip consult with seller or gaver of update
Problem solved now! I reached out to seller. And it turns out that "Radio" has to be in "Menu Icon" in order to function properly. (8878 Menu)
I removed radio since I wanted the button to open phone. Which I didn't got working anyway.
Thank you for helping!