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besides unnecessary parental control put in place on the camera, like battery limitations, forcing your music to stop when its loaded, and inability to function when mediascanner is running, theyve also, and made a unmutable shutter sound and auto focus sound, and removed the option to adjust saturation, sharpness, and brightness.. and in the video camera, removed the the ability to pause the video, now you have to straight out stop it and take another one.
why did they do this you might ask? because they added extremely watered down picture editor, and video clip editor. and they somehow think that adding these after picture/video editors was such a good idea, that they should just remove them from the camera entirely.. wtf samsung?
now what i wanna know is what WE can do to fix this? is it possible to take these settings from the galaxy s1's camera app, and add them in to the s2's? the camera apps are extremely similar
EDIT: a solution?
i really think these things can be fixed, maybe not adding the saturation, sharpness, and brightness back, that seems like alot of hard work, and i guess it isnt TOO hard to edit the picture afterwards.. but i think removing the 'parental controls' put in place, is simply a matter of deleting that area of the app's code. i wonder if adding the ability to pause the video would be hard, it seems like a simple enough thing to do.. but i dont fully understand how one would go about doing this..
for SGS1 owners, do you guys remember Fr4gg0r? he created a hacked camera app that removed the battery limitation, music from stopping when camera loads, and even added the ability to use the hardware lockkey as a camera shutter button!, and he added a thumbnail of recently taken picture in the bottom right hard corner (which we now see built in to the sgs2). really amazing work! however i spoke with him, and he doesnt plan to get the sgs2, but i wonder if we looked at his changelog from the origional apk to the modded, if then we could just make the same mods to the s2..
can anyone a little more knowledgeable than me give me their thoughts?
SGS [APP] Hacked Camera.apk <- link to his thread for original hacked camera app
Modding the camera app is very difficult since it's closed source. Might be able to take the AOSP camera app and hook the driver up, but that's hard too... amount of work depends on how good the camera driver meshes with the AOSP camera app.. I think?
I've never tried to do anything with the camera so hopefully someone with more knowledge of it can pitch in!
As to your complaint about the settings... do you really sit there before taking a picture on a phone camera and fiddle with contrast/brightness settings? I wish I had your dedication to taking good pictures!
I'm guessing suspending other applications when the camera's running is to preserve resources. I don't think I've ever been listening to music when I've used my phone as a camera. I don't agree with taking away flexibility but I think the percentage of people impacted isn't going to be high.
I can understand your concern but I don't think these restrictions justify saying they screwed up the camera badly.. maybe if they used a crappy sensor, but judging from the photos and video's I've seen posted quality looks very acceptable!
the reason i expect u cant use camera whilst media scanner is running is due to the fact samsungs internal memory, where pics are stored by default, is mounted like an SD card... also ive only ever had media scanner running once re-mounting from mass storage or when turning phone on... although ive never actually tested this senario as my phone is always on and storage mounted...
neither of those issues are a problem for me though... at least ive never encountered them during usage...
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i know removing the battery limit requires deleting some lines of code, same goes for it killing music, and forcing a shutter sound and focus sound, but would it be incredibly hard work to add the ability to pause a video, as i find this really necessary when taking videos
soraxd said:
i know removing the battery limit requires deleting some lines of code, same goes for it killing music, and forcing a shutter sound and focus sound, but would it be incredibly hard work to add the ability to pause a video, as i find this really necessary when taking videos
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I fully agree about pausing a video recording. I've often used that feature on my SGS, and find it very puzzling, and annoying, that they would eliminate it. Quite odd.
i really think these things can be fixed, maybe not adding the saturation, sharpness, and brightness back, that seems like alot of hard work, and i guess it isnt TOO hard to edit the picture afterwards.. but i think removing the 'parental controls' put in place, is simply a matter of deleting that area of the app's code. i wonder if adding the ability to pause the video would be hard, it seems like a simple enough thing to do.. but i dont fully understand how one would go about doing this..
for SGS1 owners, do you guys remember Fr4gg0r? he created a hacked camera app that removed the battery limitation, music from stopping when camera loads, and even added the ability to use the hardware lockkey as a camera shutter button!, and he added a thumbnail of recently taken picture in the bottom right hard corner (which we now see built in to the sgs2). really amazing work! however i spoke with him, and he doesnt plan to get the sgs2, but i wonder if we looked at his changelog from the origional apk to the modded, if then we could just make the same mods to the s2..
can anyone a little more knowledgeable than me give me their thoughts?
SGS [APP] Hacked Camera.apk <- link to his thread for original hacked camera app
screw camera up??? except for the battery and music "issue" in my opinion this is one of the best cameras on a mobile, i tried many different modes and the pictures are quite good ))
unfortunately we cannot always have everything in just one gadged )))
well we may not be able to have everything, but i wont stop until i get some results.. ive been talking to a clever developer lately, whos on board to help me modify this app
I've started modding the camera app for battery level etc. Will take a look more today
These mods shouldn't be hard to implement and there is no closed source when it comes to android. We have apktool and smali / baksmali, we don't need source code from Samsung for this.
Hi there. I hope I'm asking this in the right place, but I have an interest in the inner workings of cameras on android, and how an app could control them effectively.
I have noiticed that most, if not all, android cameras have autoexposure hardwired on, and that this hardware autoexposure is significantly more effective than what is user controllable (brightness sliders and the like in camera apps)
For example, if you are sitting in a dark room, with a bright window. Now matter how low you drop the "exposure slider" in an app, the window will never come into the proper exposure range. Yet, if you actually look out the window with the camera, to where the outside world fills the viewport, the camera will automatically drop into the proper exposure range. This is odd to me... So the camera CAN expose down far enough to make the outside not blown out, but I am not able to control this?
The only explanation I can figure is the exposure on cell cameras works in a two step process.
1. Light hits sensor, sensor uses autoexposure to get the right range, all on it's own (we cant control this, or can we?),
2. and then the software gets the stream and we can adjust it slightly inside of the software side.
So I guess my question is... is it possible to edit step 1? Can we manually adjust the full exposure at the sensor level? I find most HDR apps to be very lacking on Android, and I believe this is the cause. The app literally has no access to change the exposure range. It can only adjust in a small range that is exposed to software after the hardware auto-exposure has done it's magic.
I have hope that this may be changeable, thanks only to one software I have seen that can.. kinda... adjust the hardware exposure. An app called Camera FV-5 on the market, if you go outside, get your exposure correctly, you can then choose AE-L for autoexposure lock, and then go inside and look out that same window, and everything will say exposed as low as you locked it.
If this is possible, that at least means we can allow/disallow the hardware auto-exposure. And if this is possible, maybe more control is too.
Thoughts? My goal is to make a camera app that fully controls settings such as these. At their full range. Let me know what you all think!
(Specifically I am on the LG G2, and would like to get hardware level exposure control on this model, but Id love to expand after I see it's possible, if it is)
Sorry if this is the wrong forum, I am new here. if so Mods please move it for me or let me know where it goes! Thanks!
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Hi there. I hope I'm asking this in the right place, but I have an interest in the inner workings of cameras on android, and how an app could control them effectively.
I have noiticed that most, if not all, android cameras have autoexposure hardwired on, and that this hardware autoexposure is significantly more effective than what is user controllable (brightness sliders and the like in camera apps)
For example, if you are sitting in a dark room, with a bright window. Now matter how low you drop the "exposure slider" in an app, the window will never come into the proper exposure range. Yet, if you actually look out the window with the camera, to where the outside world fills the viewport, the camera will automatically drop into the proper exposure range. This is odd to me... So the camera CAN expose down far enough to make the outside not blown out, but I am not able to control this?
The only explanation I can figure is the exposure on cell cameras works in a two step process.
1. Light hits sensor, sensor uses autoexposure to get the right range, all on it's own (we cant control this, or can we?),
2. and then the software gets the stream and we can adjust it slightly inside of the software side.
So I guess my question is... is it possible to edit step 1? Can we manually adjust the full exposure at the sensor level? I find most HDR apps to be very lacking on Android, and I believe this is the cause. The app literally has no access to change the exposure range. It can only adjust in a small range that is exposed to software after the hardware auto-exposure has done it's magic.
I have hope that this may be changeable, thanks only to one software I have seen that can.. kinda... adjust the hardware exposure. An app called Camera FV-5 on the market, if you go outside, get your exposure correctly, you can then choose AE-L for autoexposure lock, and then go inside and look out that same window, and everything will say exposed as low as you locked it.
If this is possible, that at least means we can allow/disallow the hardware auto-exposure. And if this is possible, maybe more control is too.
Thoughts? My goal is to make a camera app that fully controls settings such as these. At their full range. Let me know what you all think!
(Specifically I am on the LG G2, and would like to get hardware level exposure control on this model, but Id love to expand after I see it's possible, if it is)
Sorry if this is the wrong forum, I am new here. if so Mods please move it for me or let me know where it goes! Thanks!
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As I have no idea how the camera is using the light sensor, the only logical advice I would give you is to browse the source code of the standart camera app.. Since Android is open source, I'm sure you can find something that helps you
The other way would be to write a very basic camera app that does not make use of the light sensor, and then see how much exposure is actually done without you knowing.
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As I have no idea how the camera is using the light sensor, the only logical advice I would give you is to browse the source code of the standart camera app.. Since Android is open source, I'm sure you can find something that helps you
The other way would be to write a very basic camera app that does not make use of the light sensor, and then see how much exposure is actually done without you knowing.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll start by looking at CM's camera app.
I never liked Sony's camera app, so I decided to switch to Camera FV-5. Is there a way that I can make Camera FV-5 my default camera app? I want this to be the app that launches when I hold down on the shutter button or when I open the camera app from the lock screen.
On a side note, while I quite like Camera FV-5, is there another app you folks can recommend?
Shutter button? Are you sure you choose proper phone forum section? Because Xperia Z doesnt have shutter button
Only quick way to open camera on XZ is lockscreen shortcut, and depending on OS version you can put on it shortcut for app.
Also most of camera apps have buried setting for making it default, so its not necessary to force it to be system application.
In terms of Camera app, Im also not a fan of Sony Camera app, but for most of time its not app fault but sony messed up camera ""drivers"".
After Xperia Arc S I think Sony had really average cameras you can get compared to other phones(I didnt personally check z5 tho, rest I tested and its really average).
Also it should be mentioned that no matter what app you use, image processing is still move though Sony camera algorithms, so end product beside some additional color/contrast changes, doesnt get any details or overall quality boost.
Maybe there are some changes in HDR/ISO part, but its still putting one image processing on another and its never good.
I tried different apps, but beside initial WOW effect its always end in situation where those apps had too much smaller problems or just had too much useless effect that make that app annoying more than stock app, So I always end with stock app, because I would rather use it as a simple point-and-shoot camera even if its a bit slow(4-5 sec from unlocking to taking pic) its take looots of resources and battery, and some options are hard/slow to use.
For more "advanced" shoots I still use my camera, and its sad , because I was using phone camera starting from SE k750i and I always loved that idea.
Yes I did post this question in the wrong forum, I have a Z3, my apologies.
As for the app,, I do realize that all apps in the end go through Sony's processing. What I'm looking for is an app that offers me more control (ie. a proper manual control). Also I find the tap to focus doesn't work very well (or at all) with the Sony app.
Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful
themadbuddha said:
Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful
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Can't you just install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera on stock ROM? I think the camera2 api should be available.
Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.
themadbuddha said:
Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.
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So the app doesn't work? I can't test it cause I am not on stock.
Just tried open cam on stock rom and I can capture RAW dng files, so it seems like camera2 is supported try it out!
UPDATE: Enable "Use alternative flash method" in photo settings if it won't take pictures when camera2 is enabled.
Open camera is pretty buggy on this phone when shooting RAW. Try "Footej camera", seems to work better
yaa but for footej need to pay to have fully featured. I payed for this but for m there is no diference to open camera.
I didn't say that Footej is better than open camera. Just that open camera often bugs for me when using camera2 - eg nothing happens when pressing camera button.
Sry for reviving the thread, is there any way to increase max shutter speed in camera2 api? I'm really interested in shooting some raw stuff but apps like Opencamera or Adobe Lightroom won't allow me to set over 1 second shutter speed (apart from the built-in camera app that allows up to 8 secs, but without raw support...) so it's a pain in the butt if I want to take raw pictures at night.
Using the stock Marshmallow Emui
The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.
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The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.
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Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great
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Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great
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Have you tried Camera FV5?
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Have you tried Camera FV5?
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Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|
Krastinov said:
Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|
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Is it the trial version?
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Is it the trial version?
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Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case
Krastinov said:
Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case
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I Know This Is Quite Old But In Case Someone Is Still Wondering;
I'm Using Stock Nougat Firmware On My P9 Lite And It Does Support Raw Format, But You Have To Root The Phone And Enable Raw/DNG Format In Some System Files
how does that photocrome mode for camera works? does it simply add some effects? or is a more complex option? can it really see through clothes?
Google, ”IR camera"
If you want more insight, google, "sony 1998 camera handyman" too as it'll pull up some interesting stuff that this camera can do.
It's essentially an IR camera though.