So, from searching this forum it seems like people think the V20 doesn't support Treble. I've seen articles that state with Oreo it will. I am running the unofficial Los 15.1 build and downloaded the app that checks for Treble compatibility and it states my phone is treble ready though I don't have the A/B setup. Now looking at treble project builds there are many that state they are a only as well as a/b.
So, is the rooted v20 treble ready with Oreo firmware?
Also, when I do this cmd in terminal - getprop ro.treble.enabled, it returns true.
Is it possible, yes, will they do it, probably not.
You can set the boot LUN now, without Oreo, and force the phone to boot from the *bak partitions (xblbax, abootbak, lafbak, recoverybak, etc)
Notice there is one important partition missing .. bootbak. We don't have it. That would require the phone to be repartitioned, and I just don't see LG risking that.
It is hard enough to repartition a UFS NAND via a firehose, it would be insane to try it via an OTA update.
-- Brian
Thanks Brian. Guessing these treble check apps should have a big warning plastered on them for the less savvy in the android intricacies such as myself. Glad I posted before going ham on trying to install Treble roms
Actually we have xbl2 and xbl2bak that could be repurposed. They aren't actually used as part of the boot process (they are identical copies of xbl and xblbak).
However, that still leaves system. In order to have a systembak, they would have to shrink userdata which is currently 52.2G, so plenty of room, but that is VERY risky.
Again, though, this is very doable. Heck, even if they don't do it, the AOSP builds for the V20 could support it with the tweaks stated above.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
Actually we have xbl2 and xbl2bak that could be repurposed. They aren't actually used as part of the boot process (they are identical copies of xbl and xblbak).
However, that still leaves system. In order to have a systembak, they would have to shrink userdata which is currently 52.2G, so plenty of room, but that is VERY risky.
Again, though, this is very doable. Heck, even if they don't do it, the AOSP builds for the V20 could support it with the tweaks stated above.
-- Brian
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So, does the V30 have all these partitions set up? It's my understanding that the V30 is definitely going to be treble supported so I'm curious if it already has these partitions in place or needs modifying (in which case I imagine some crafty bastard will be able to replicate the process).
Or along those lines, several of the supported current phones I don't believe shipped with Oreo so they had to undergo the reformatting process, I wonder if there's anything to glean from them. I'll have to see if I can wrap my head around this whole deal.
Also, is this what we are lacking? https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr.../tool-capire-le-treble-terble-vendor-t3774629
Wow, I should really drink at least 3 cups of coffee before posting.
What I was referring to was A/B system updates which I swore had a code name, but damn if I can find it now.
Anyway, yes, even Project Treble will still require repartitioning since we don't have a vendor partition (vendor is on system). Much easier to implement than A/B system updates, but I still don't think LG will do it.
We will just have to wait and see...
EDIT: good read on A/B system updates: https://source.android.com/devices/tech/ota/ab/ab_implement
-- Brian
LG may not add /vendor partition, but if you put the pieces together from some of the posts around the dev section theres work being done to add one in Lineage, though it hasnt been done yet.
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Anyway, yes, even Project Treble will still require repartitioning since we don't have a vendor partition (vendor is on system).
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Just FWIW, Treble doesn't necessarily require repartitioning.
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Just FWIW, Treble doesn't necessarily require repartitioning.
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i've been following project treble for sometimes and there are lot of misunderstanding
1. having custom oreo roms doesnt mean you had treble support. it is true most treble phone coming with oreo by default
2. even if your phone has official oreo rom doesnt mean it support treble project ( like samsung S8 or note 8)
3. there are some devices with unnoficial treble support like oneplus devices but it still in development and as brian said we need repartition and needs lot of work. and your link above still on experiment.
i didnt say its impossible, but its far away for our devices not to mention we still need to dealing with ARB and lafs. just hope more devs joining on LG development and not rush them ( i saw lot of people doing that on brian's thread) . remember they did it for free while risking their devices on the process.
Loopback mounting is by far the safest method. You mess that up, and you phone just doesn't load the OS. You try and shrink a partition, and you mess up, and you could be toast. It isn't just shrinking, you also have to add a new entry to the GPT .. that is dangerous.
Also, if you do succeed, you will never be able to flash a stock ROM unless you put things back. For one thing stock system would no longer fit
-- Brian
What about this
www.getdroidtips.com/lg-v20-android-9-0-pie/
walidham said:
What about this
www.getdroidtips.com/lg-v20-android-9-0-pie/
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Has someone tried this? Sorta feels like he just took that article and just keeps adding phone models to it without trying it.
walidham said:
What about this
www.getdroidtips.com/lg-v20-android-9-0-pie/
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I saw that article -- and had also come across phhusson treble_experimentations on github -- and am also wondering if anyone has tried it for the LG V20, in particular the H918. LG V20 is not listed in the vendor-HAL directory of the github repo. I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried this with the H918.
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I saw that article -- and had also come across phhusson treble_experimentations on github -- and am also wondering if anyone has tried it for the LG V20, in particular the H918. LG V20 is not listed in the vendor-HAL directory of the github repo. I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried this with the H918.
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you can't just grab random drivers (that's what these HALs are) and hope they fit your device. x86cpu got close to a working treble implementation, but LG's camera drivers wern't compatible and has since put off that project and is working more on lineage 16 (pie). IF LG ever does release a stock version of pie, perhaps a newer version of the camera driver might be compatible, but perhaps not.
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you can't just grab random drivers (that's what these HALs are) and hope they fit your device. x86cpu got close to a working treble implementation, but LG's camera drivers wern't compatible and has since put off that project and is working more on lineage 16 (pie). IF LG ever does release a stock version of pie, perhaps a newer version of the camera driver might be compatible, but perhaps not.
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OK. Got it. So it seems that LG is going to give the V20 a Pie update. There are announcements to that affect. Assuming LG follows through, the Pie update may or may not be Treble compatible. With Oreo, device OEMs were required (??) to be Treble compatible on new Oreo devices, but could provide non-Treble Oreo updates to existing devices. That's what I gathered. So with Pie, what you are saying is that it will be the same: OEMs are not necessarily going to package Treble support in Pie updates to existing devices. But if LG does provide a Pie update, AND if the update is Treble compatible, then things will be easy-peasy for ROM developers to port their wares to it because drivers -- like the troublesome camera driver -- will be abstracted and basically have the same abstraction across all Android devices. Is that right?
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OK. Got it. So it seems that LG is going to give the V20 a Pie update. There are announcements to that affect. Assuming LG follows through, the Pie update may or may not be Treble compatible. With Oreo, device OEMs were required (??) to be Treble compatible on new Oreo devices, but could provide non-Treble Oreo updates to existing devices. That's what I gathered. So with Pie, what you are saying is that it will be the same: OEMs are not necessarily going to package Treble support in Pie updates to existing devices. But if LG does provide a Pie update, AND if the update is Treble compatible, then things will be easy-peasy for ROM developers to port their wares to it because drivers -- like the troublesome camera driver -- will be abstracted and basically have the same abstraction across all Android devices. Is that right?
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LG released oreo without treble support, LG releasing a pie update for the V20 is doubtful at best and if they do it more than likely it won't have treble support either
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walidham said:
What about this
www.getdroidtips.com/lg-v20-android-9-0-pie/
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warwagon19792 said:
Has someone tried this? Sorta feels like he just took that article and just keeps adding phone models to it without trying it.
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stcr1 said:
I saw that article -- and had also come across phhusson treble_experimentations on github -- and am also wondering if anyone has tried it for the LG V20, in particular the H918. LG V20 is not listed in the vendor-HAL directory of the github repo. I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried this with the H918.
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I did know of someone who tried this. And it seemed to work but it never passed from the booting animation screen. He tried to go back and the phone was rendered useless. (and he was a developer). SOOOOO no.... I don't recommend attempting this.
Hi, there's some couple of questions I have with some comments on some of them.
First of all, I have heard that installing customing OS is the same for Oneplus 6 and Oneplus 6T. Could it be possible to install LineageOS on the OnePlus 6T?
Is there something missing? Something about the A/B seem to hint that there's probably something I should be aware of.
That's pretty much the few question I have. From what I see so far, it doesn't seem to be possible to install LineageOS on the OnePlus6T.
Reptorian said:
That's pretty much the few question I have. From what I see so far, it doesn't seem to be possible to install LineageOS on the OnePlus6T.
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You may have missed the AOSP thread here in the 6T section. Yes you can install the OP6 Lineage to your 6T, the fingerprint sensor will not work. I ran the OP6 Lineage for a few days, and everything else for the most part just worked. You need to follow the directions exactly in the AOSP thread.
You will have to use the Bluspark OP6 recovery, the 6T recovery will not work. Then install Lineage. I did not have any sound from anything at first. In fact even apps that tried to play sound like VLC would crash, not sure why, once I installed a custom kernel, everything was good to go.
Here is the AOSP thread
Also note there has been a successful test build for the 6T. It's not been released yet though, so Lineage is being worked on. Just give it time, this is still a new device.
Hey!
Just wondering if anyone has attempted to flash a GSI on to their Tab S5E. I've got the LTE variant and I'm wondering if GSIs could fill the rom gap (as the wifi variant roms don't have functioning WiFi on the LTE variant)
I've had a brief look at similar samsung devices (similar in the sense that they're running roughly the same platform - SD675) and they seem to be nearly fully functioning, with some minor bugs.
Just as a bit of an update, I was able to get a 9.0 GSI to boot, however, have not had any luck as of yet to get a 10 GSI booting on the Tab S5E LTE
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Just as a bit of an update, I was able to get a 9.0 GSI to boot, however, have not had any luck as of yet to get a 10 GSI booting on the Tab S5E LTE
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hey, can you tell me what rom and how you installed?
Justice™ said:
Just as a bit of an update, I was able to get a 9.0 GSI to boot, however, have not had any luck as of yet to get a 10 GSI booting on the Tab S5E LTE
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so how did you manage to accomplish this? thanks appreciate if you could share what you found
Hey everyone,
I'm currently in China and I'm thinking of buying the OnePlus 8 Pro. However, the Mainland 8 Pro currently only comes with the new Hydrogen OS, and limits use of certain features that I, as a user from the U.S. would like to use. The global website only has roms for download for up to the 7T Pro, not the 8 Pro yet. I'm wondering if there is any way to flash the global rom onto the 8 pro at this point. If not, I guess I'll have to reconsider my choices.
Thanks for the help.
P.S. Sorry, I'm a bit new to all this, so if there are any issue with my question, or if its unclear to you. Please let me know.
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Hey everyone,
I'm currently in China and I'm thinking of buying the OnePlus 8 Pro. However, the Mainland 8 Pro currently only comes with the new Hydrogen OS, and limits use of certain features that I, as a user from the U.S. would like to use. The global website only has roms for download for up to the 7T Pro, not the 8 Pro yet. I'm wondering if there is any way to flash the global rom onto the 8 pro at this point. If not, I guess I'll have to reconsider my choices.
Thanks for the help.
P.S. Sorry, I'm a bit new to all this, so if there are any issue with my question, or if its unclear to you. Please let me know.
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Global rom with instructions to flash on Chinese version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/how-to/oneplus-8-pro-repo-oxygen-os-builds-t4084315
But you might want to follow this before flashing OOS global:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...de-fix-persist-img-loss-finger-print-t4125909
Hope this helps, cheers.
vtec303 said:
Global rom with instructions to flash on Chinese version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/how-to/oneplus-8-pro-repo-oxygen-os-builds-t4084315
But you might want to follow this before flashing OOS global:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...de-fix-persist-img-loss-finger-print-t4125909
Hope this helps, cheers.
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It does! I also found this thread if anyone else needs this question answered and needs a guide for how to flash.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/help/oneplus-8-pro-change-hydrogenos-to-t4100231
Thanks a ton!
You might want to reconsider... The 5g frequencies differ from the models... I'm not sure where I read it but do some extra research before buying and not fully functioning back home...
vroemie said:
You might want to reconsider... The 5g frequencies differ from the models... I'm not sure where I read it but do some extra research before buying and not fully functioning back home...
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That'd be a hardware thing then?
hanshannahsnah said:
That'd be a hardware thing then?
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Yes something with the supported frequencies being different from CN US and EU models regarding 5g
Does OTA still work after you flash Oxygen OS?
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Does OTA still work after you flash Oxygen OS?
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Wasn't able to flash. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted no problem. But then whenever I try to flash to Oxygen, it says that I am not allowed to "downgrade". I think because the nomenclature for Oxygen is lower than that of Hydrogen right now.
hanshannahsnah said:
Wasn't able to flash. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted no problem. But then whenever I try to flash to Oxygen, it says that I am not allowed to "downgrade". I think because the nomenclature for Oxygen is lower than that of Hydrogen right now.
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Have you tried the msm tool? the one which flashes OOS, but it will relock your bootloader and wipe the internal storage, cheers
I have multiple oneplus 6ts on Android 9.0.13, I would like to upgrade them specifically to 10.3.11. How can I do this? The built in system updates skips over that so I'm not sure.
Also, does it matter if I have the Tmobile device or not?
HelpOneplus6t said:
I have multiple oneplus 6ts on Android 9.0.13, I would like to upgrade them specifically to 10.3.11. How can I do this? The built in system updates skips over that so I'm not sure.
Also, does it matter if I have the Tmobile device or not?
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Check this out .
[OnePlus 6T (Global)][ROM][OTA][Oxygen OS] Repo of Oxygen OS Builds
As OnePlus doesn't always provide download links for all of for their Oxygen OS ROMs & OTA update zips, we mirrored them on AndroidFileHost and put the links in one post so that they're easy to find. This is not a support thread for issues you...
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