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Updated: 18.11.2017
Hello,
finally Amazon released OS 5.1.1 for Fire HDX 8.9 Saturn users and there may be the slight chance that 3rd Gen HDX users will benefit soon, too. Fire OS 5.1.1. is out in the wild for other devices since a while and so the overview of capable "modifications" of 5.1.1 is spread over multiple forums of different (HD) devices and it is not known if they are applicaple for Saturn user or i.e. need to be modified in advance.
That`s why I want to start this thread where I want to collect the capabilities / links for modification of 5.1.1 with Saturn HDX users only! This thread will be modified in the future to list all capabilities. So I need your feedback what you have tested and what is working especially if it is not listed in this post. Please do tell if you modifed something to get it working. And beginners, please do not abuse this thread with general questions to maintain the overview!
Tested and working:
1) Installing GApps without root (no modification needed): From Fire 7 2015 Forum
(18.11.2017) OR use this script to only install PlayStore: http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/?dir=Amazon%20Fire%205th%20gen/SuperTool where you can also remove OTA updates, etc.
2) After install of PlayStore: Root with Kingroot: EDIT 18.11.2017: Download Kingroot 4.8.0 from http://apkmirror.com (use this old version to make it work to replace with the following script below) and transfer it with the Android File Transfer. Use ES Explorer via PlayStore to open and install the transfered kingroot4.8.0.apk.
Afterwards I replaced KingUser with SuperSU with this little Script: Replace KingUser
3) Change launcher with root:
1. Install Nova Launcher (or another launcher) via Play Store
2. Open an adb shell (or use Terminal Emulator via PlayStore)-> su -> pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
3. Open Nova Launcher again and everything is fine
Untested but maybe possible (volunteers appreciated):
- Change launcher without root: From HD 8 / 10 2015 Forum
Not working
- Installation of custom ROMS like CyanogenMod, Nexus, etc.
Ok, good news! It is possible to root 5.1.1 on HDX Saturn!
Just go to www.kingroot.net with your device and download the latest .apk for Android.
Open and root, it first fails but the second possibility works.
Afterwards I replaced KingUser with SuperSu according to this: http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
I don't use "gapps"; just installed the "latest" for the 8.9, login/account-manager, framework, play services & play store. Play store didn't work before the 5.1.1 but now works. After the 5.1.1 install, dialogue popped up & said update of play services needed & so I said do it. After selecting "update" & during the update, I realize that the webpage was Google Play store!.
Along with my Play Services update, I got updates for several apps I had side loaded as in Youtube & otherss from Google; later on had some more updates from Google. I didn't install any gapps package, just apps that were not available on Amazon for the Fire 8.9; don't believe that gapps are needed unless one wanted that stuff as it is the access into Google Play Store that is desirable.
Also the ADB command line may not be needed as I did that prior to installing 5.1.1 & don't know if 5.1.1 removed/overrode it.
Anyway, I'm OK with getting my apps gotten from Google will now get auto updated from Google & the stuff from Amazon get updated from Amazon.
epionier said:
Hello,
finally Amazon released OS 5.1.1 for Fire HDX 8.9 Saturn users and there may be the slight chance that 3rd Gen HDX users will benefit soon, too. Fire OS 5.1.1. is out in the wild for other devices since a while and so the overview of capable "modifications" of 5.1.1 is spread over multiple forums of different (HD) devices and it is not known if they are applicaple for Saturn user or i.e. need to be modified in advance.
That`s why I want to start this thread where I want to collect the capabilities / links for modification of 5.1.1 with Saturn HDX users only! This thread will be modified in the future to list all capabilities. So I need your feedback what you have tested and what is working especially if it is not listed in this post. Please do tell if you modifed something to get it working. And beginners, please do not abuse this thread with general questions to maintain the overview!
Tested and working:
- Installing GApps without root (no modification needed): From Fire 7 2015 Forum
- Root with newest version of Kingroot: From HD 8 / 10 2015 Forum Afterwards I replaced KingUser with SuperSU with this little Script: Replace KingUser
- Change launcher with root:
1. Install Nova Launcher via Play Store
2. Open an adb shell -> su -> pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
3. Open Nova Launcher again and everything is fine
Untested but maybe possible (volunteers appreciated):
- Change launcher without root: From HD 8 / 10 2015 Forum
Not working
- Installation of custom ROMS like CyanogenMod, Nexus, etc.
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Thanks for the guide, everything in the tested and working section worked perfectly
I have the hdx 4th gen 8.9 tablet running latest 5.1.1 and have installed kingroot. Root is working and I have removed a few bloat packages and installed root explorer. I was unable to use adb install for these.
My question is....I am trying to use ADB to install apks, I have turned on the dev mode and set for debugging, My tablet connects, but remains "offline"
I have tried stopping and starting the server with no luck...so I can not sideload apks etc.
I'm wondering if it's the sdk tools, so I went ahead and downloaded the toolkit, installed Java, and now need to install the appropriate android version..lollipop. I also have a firetv stick and have not had to download or install any of the toolkit in order to use adb for installs, so why is the kindle hdx showing me as offline and unable to install. What have I missed? I really don't want to install the sdk packs if I don't need to..(which I didn't need to for the firetv)
Thanks
@wetwaterdog
Use the ADB Drivers in this package: http://rootjunkysdl.com/getdownload.php?file=Amazon%20Fire%205th%20gen/Amazon-Fire-5th-Gen-Install-Play-Store.zip They work flawless for me.
Otherwise install Google Play Store with the file above and use the Play Store to install apps. You still can donwload .apk directly via the browser on the device.
Last but not least use the "general" method to transfer .apk files with Android File Transfer App via MacOSX or MTP on Windows: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/2840804?hl=en
epionier said:
@wetwaterdog
Use the ADB Drivers in this package: http://rootjunkysdl.com/getdownload.php?file=Amazon%20Fire%205th%20gen/Amazon-Fire-5th-Gen-Install-Play-Store.zip They work flawless for me.
Otherwise install Google Play Store with the file above and use the Play Store to install apps. You still can donwload .apk directly via the browser on the device.
Last but not least use the "general" method to transfer .apk files with Android File Transfer App via MacOSX or MTP on Windows: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/2840804?hl=en
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I ended up downloading and installing the SDK toolkit, but I didn't install anything but the amazon driver listed under "extras". adb now works for installs. Right now, I don't need all the other sdk stuff, so that was it...very simple
I jsut got a new HDX Saturn, and it is currently on 4.2. Can I update manually to a rootable version of FireOS ?
What would you recommend? I guess no Safetrap for the 4th gen, right - meaning no custom roms.
johim said:
I jsut got a new HDX Saturn, and it is currently on 4.2. Can I update manually to a rootable version of FireOS ?
What would you recommend? I guess no Safetrap for the 4th gen, right - meaning no custom roms.
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- 4.5.5.1 and early versions of 5.x.x (<5.1.2) are rootable w/Kingroot
- no Safestrap or custom roms for 4th gen HDX
- GAaps works better w/FireOS 5.x but you need be careful it doesn't update to 5.1.2 or above; no going back (instant brick)
Davey126 said:
- 4.5.5.1 and early versions of 5.x.x (<5.1.2) are rootable w/Kingroot
- no Safestrap or custom roms for 4th gen HDX
- GAaps works better w/FireOS 5.x but you need be careful it doesn't update to 5.1.2 or above; no going back (instant brick)
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Thanks Davey216! So there is no bin to update manually to < 5.1.2 ?
johim said:
Thanks Davey216! So there is no bin to update manually to < 5.1.2 ?
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To my knowledge working links for older 5.x HDX builds have not been maintained (publicly posted) as they were for 4.x. Upgrading is a dicey proposition as going too far will yield an unrootable build with no rollback option. Examples:
- an OTA update will likely bring you first to 4.5.5.1 (rootable) then 5.1.2.1 (unrootable at present)
- grabbing the latest update directly from Amazon will likely score 5.1.2.1 or higher
Davey126 said:
To my knowledge working links for older 5.x HDX builds have not been maintained (publicly posted) as they were for 4.x. Upgrading is a dicey proposition as going too far will yield an unrootable build with no rollback option. Examples:
- an OTA update will likely bring you first to 4.5.5.1 (rootable) then 5.1.2.1 (unrootable at present)
- grabbing the latest update directly from Amazon will likely score 5.1.2.1 or higher
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OK I grabbed the 5.1.1 from here and updated to 5.1.1
1) Do you know how to disable OTA (I tried the adb shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota and other similar methods without root) - at the moment it started downloading the 5.1.2 update
2) Is there a way to remove the (almost) downloaded 5.1.2?
3) I installed KingRoot but it needs WIFI to root so I cannot root at the moment (if I turn Wifi the update will be resumed)
johim said:
OK I grabbed the 5.1.1 from here and updated to 5.1.1
1) Do you know how to disable OTA (I tried the adb shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota and other similar methods without root) - at the moment it started downloading the 5.1.2 update
2) Is there a way to remove the (almost) downloaded 5.1.2?
3) I installed KingRoot but it needs WIFI to root so I cannot root at the moment (if I turn Wifi the update will be resumed)
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- rebooting device should discard partial 5.1.2 download
- pm hide and similar non-root methods are unreliable
- download/launch kingroot; only connect when read to root
- see other threads for file that needs to be renamed to block OTA
Davey126 said:
- rebooting device should discard partial 5.1.2 download
- pm hide and similar non-root methods are unreliable
- download/launch kingroot; only connect when read to root
- see other threads for file that needs to be renamed to block OTA
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I was looking for the other threads for the OTA block but couldnt remmebr which one works for Saturn. I remember otacert had to be renamed on Apollo.
So, I did something else:
1) downloaded kingroot PC version, connected via adb/usb and rooted without WIFI
2) Installed Super-Sume+Pro+v9.1.9.apk (to replace SuperSU)
3) Updated SuperSU SuperSU_v2.65.apk
4) Installed Root Explorer v4.0.1.apk
5) renamed /system/priv-app/DeviceSoftwareOTA/DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk to DeviceSoftware OTA.apk_ to prevent OTA
6) deleted /cache/update-saturn_saturn-541113320-to-542169020.bin
7) reboot
Cheerz!
I have an HDX 8.9 (4th Gen) running 5.1.2. Is there any way to roll it back to 5.1.1. so I can root?
johim said:
I was looking for the other threads for the OTA block but couldnt remmebr which one works for Saturn. I remember otacert had to be renamed on Apollo.
So, I did something else:
1) downloaded kingroot PC version, connected via adb/usb and rooted without WIFI
2) Installed Super-Sume+Pro+v9.1.9.apk (to replace SuperSU)
3) Updated SuperSU SuperSU_v2.65.apk
4) Installed Root Explorer v4.0.1.apk
5) renamed /system/priv-app/DeviceSoftwareOTA/DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk to DeviceSoftware OTA.apk_ to prevent OTA
6) deleted /cache/update-saturn_saturn-541113320-to-542169020.bin
7) reboot
Cheerz!
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Perfect! Couldn't have scripted it better. Offline version of Kingroot is the bomb. Glad it all worked out - enjoy.
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FireFlyChef said:
I have an HDX 8.9 (4th Gen) running 5.1.2. Is there any way to roll it back to 5.1.1. so I can root?
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Nope - rollbacks from 5.1.2 will brick device.
Davey126 said:
Perfect! Couldn't have scripted it better. Offline version of Kingroot is the bomb. Glad it all worked out - enjoy.
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Nope - rollbacks from 5.1.2 will brick device.
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Thanks for the heads-up. :good:
Anyone know how to get 1080p (and 1440p hopefully) youtube? I've only seen build prop changes mentioned for the old hdxs on 4.4.4 by changing it to 5.0.0. Well the build prop is already set to 5.1.1 and 480p is the max res.
sorry wrong thread.
johim said:
OK I grabbed the 5.1.1 from here and updated to 5.1.1
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I am a little bit confused because you're talking about 5.1.1 download and in URL I see 22.5.4.1 and I don't want to loose root. Is the version 5.1.1 in the file update-kindle-22.5.4.1_user_541113320.bin or do I mix something?
kind regards
jampr
Download the latest tools from the AFH link near end of post. It includes the changes in the attached "jobs" zip. You only need "jobs" if you downloaded the tools before May 11
EDIT May 29: Playstore is currently unreliable. Until updated, use the workaround here.
UPDATE May 17: Install Other Launcher and Install Kingroot tools may not complete if Windows username has spaces. I'll fix in next update. Until then, if your username has spaces, use this fix.
Here are tools for the 2014 Fire HD 6 and 7. A little late, I know, but some of you who still troll the forums may find them handy. Download the tools from AFH link, extract and run RUNME.bat.
IF YOU PLAN TO ROOT, TURN OFF WIFI NOW!
Tested working on OS 5.1.2.1 and below, except:
- Current Kingroot can't root 5.1.2.1. You need to downgrade. See "ROOT OS 5.1.2", below.
- OS 4: Only OTA blocking is implemented in the Block/Unblock jobs. [5/13/16 UPDATE: Also, Play Store isn't working on OS 4.
.. I probably won't fix it unless there's some demand. Try the video guide here. OS 4 users, also see post #11 for useful info about custom launchers.]
THE TOOLS
Install Play Store
Install Nova Launcher to /priv-app [root]
Install Other Launcher to /priv-app [root]
Uninstall priv-app Launchers [root]
Install Apps
Block/Unblock: OTA, ADS, AMAZON LAUNCHER, APPSTORE, AMAZON SEARCH [root]
Root Checker
Device Info
Root Tools
Install Kingroot ~ Root ~ Block OTA
Replace Kingroot with SuperSU [root]
DESCRIPTIONS
Before running a job, look here for any tips and instructions. This info is also in the readme.txt in the zip
INSTALL PLAY STORE - Like it says. Works on both rooted and unrooted OS 5. Not for OS 4. EDIT May 29: Playstore is currently unreliable. Until updated, use the workaround here.
INSTALL NOVA LAUNCHER - Installs Nova to /system/priv-app so widgets work. If you just rooted, make this your first custom launcher. You can replace it or add a different one later.
INSTALL OTHER LAUNCHER Installs the launcher app in user_launcher folder to priv-app. Get the apk for the launcher you want (from apkmirror.com for example) and put it into the folder and run the job. EDIT 5/16/2016: Filenames must end with ".apk" No spaces allowed; replace with "_". (The tool will find spaces and pause while while you fix.)
HOW TO INSTALL GOOGLE NOW (also in Readme.txt):
It's much easier to install Google Now if Amazon is blocked, and you need a custom launcher to do that.
1. If you don't have a custom launcher installed, use Install Nova tool (installs Nova and blocks Amazon)
If you have a custom launcher, block Amazon so your custom launcher is running.
2. Get Google Now (small) from apkmirror.com, e.g., put into user_launcher folder and run Install Other Launcher job.
You'll boot to your "other" launcher
3. Run Google Now in app drawer and:
If prompted to Update Google App (Get it from Google Play), do it.
If prompted that other launcher is default, tap link to go to Amazon Settings. In Apps & Games>Manage all Applications: Swipe to All, scroll to your other launcher, tap it and see if "Launch by Default" is on. If yes, Clear Defaults. If no, go to your launcher settings and see if you can turn off default there.
Some launchers don't give up their default easily. If pressing home key doesn't show "Select Home App" after doing the above, run Block/Unblock tool and switch to Amazon. Then block Amazon again. After restart, press home key and you'll get "Select Home App" and be able to choose Google Now.
UNINSTALL LAUNCHERS - Uninstalls and deletes everything associated with a launcher installed to /priv-app. If multiple, prompts you to choose the one to uninstall.
INSTALL APPS - Installs all the apps in the user_apps folder. Put the apks into the folder and run the job. Filenames must end with ".apk" No spaces allowed; replace with "_". (The tool will find spaces and pause while while you fix.) Don't install a launcher with this; use one of the launcher tools.
BLOCK/UNBLOCK - OTA, ADS, AMAZON LAUNCHER, APPSTORE, AMAZON SEARCH
Except for OTA, these work only on rooted OS 5. OTA does a soft block on unrooted OS 4, hard block on rooted.
OTA: Disables update packages and renames DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk for a "hard" block. Unblock reverses it.
ADS: Blocks/unblocks the lockscreen ads.
AMAZON LAUNCHER: Block disables the stock launcher (Amazon UI) and the Appstore, which forces the home key to use your custom launcher. Unblock switches you to Amazon. Checks for custom launcher before disabling Amazon. Black screen with multiple custom launchers: If you haven't set a default launcher, disabling Amazon will boot to black screen. (System doesn't know which launcher to use.) Press home key (circle at bottom) for launcher choices. TIP: To easily switch between your launcher and Amazon, use @bibikalka's guide here to set up "one-tap switching" from launcher home screen.
APPSTORE: Blocks the appstore so in-app links take you to the Play Store (instead of throwing that stupid Appstore prompt). Amazon complains bitterly if you run this from Amazon UI, so use it at your custom launcher or just use the Amazon launcher block.
AMAZON SEARCH: If you have Google Search installed, blocking Amazon Search makes your launcher search bar use Google instead of Amazon shopping.
DEVICE INFO - Just some specs that I find interesting. Lazy man's way to find out which tablet is plugged in, OS it's running, whether rooted . . .
INSTALL KINGROOT, ROOT, BLOCK OTA - Installs Kingroot, prompts you through rooting and blocks OTA updates.
- Installs kingroot v.4.8.5 by default.
- You can skip installation if Kingroot already installed
- You can install a later version if available: Check for new versions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
ROOTING AND UPDATES: An update file can download while you're rooting. The Kingroot tool prevents it from installing as soon as you press Enter to tell the tool you're rooted. Then it looks for any downloaded file and if it finds one it tells you where it is and prompts you to delete.
Amazon says that updates install when the the device is not being used, but be aware that on OS 5 there's some risk. To minimize the risk, never leave the tablet idle while rooting. Just keep running Kingroot until root is successful and then press Enter to block installation of any download. (These instructions are in the tool.) To eliminate all risk, you can downgrade and root OS 4.5.3. On OS 4 the tool blocks update installation before rooting. (There's no way to do this on OS 5.) From OS 4.5.3, you upgrade with root in TWRP per bibikalka's root Tut.
True story: Kingroot once rebooted 5 times and told me "Root Failed" 3 times before finally succeeding. An update had downloaded to /cache, but the kingroot tool successfully blocked installation and found the file, which I deleted. So, although it's possible you could get upgraded, as long as you keep the tablet busy trying to root and then press Enter as soon as you're rooted, it's very unlikely.
REPLACE KINGROOT WITH SUPERSU - Installs W0lfDroid's sh script and prompts you through using it to replace Kingroot.
I reviewed and tested the script and it does (only) what it says: Removes all Kingroot (except Purify app, which tool uninstalls) and installs SuperSU. The tool uses SuperSU v. 2.4.6 for OS 5 (known working on OS 5.1.2) and SuperSU v. 2.4.9 for OS 4 (because 2.4.6 didn't seem to work).
FULL DISCLOSURE: I lost root one time after running this on OS 4. I think the problem was SuperSU 2.4.6 and that's why I changed it. I've tested many times and this only happened once, but you should know it happened. AFAIK W0lfDroid script is still the best free tool for the job.
ERRORS: Script was written to remove Kingroot from multiple android versions, so it tries to remove Kingroot files that don't exist on Lollipop. THIS PRODUCES LOTS OF ERRORS. THAT'S OK. I left in all commands so it will work on OS 4, too.
USE THIS SOON AFTER ROOTING. W0lfDroid's script should work fine even with root apps installed, but all I know for sure is it runs quick and easy on a "fresh" system.
ADB Sideload
There's an adb-sideload job in the jobs folder. I didn't put it on the menu because it uses commands that may not run on some systems. Also, if you know what you're doing, it's probably faster to manually sideload an update. If someone wants to try it, put the update bin file into adb_sideload folder and run sideload.bat.WINDOWS TESTING: Script was tested on English-language versions of Win 7 Pro and Home. Some testing on Win 10. (Thanks @SpaceBananas!) There's nothing that can hurt your tablet, but there may be kinks to work out based on Windows version. Hope a tester will work with me to help make the tools accessible to everyone. Thanks!
ADB DRIVERS REQUIRED: Try the guide in first link below. If problems, try the second.
Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fir...ivers-fire-t3189000/post62561840#post62561840
Other options: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63072252&postcount=2
ROOT OS 5.1.2
IF YOU PLAN TO ROOT, TURN OFF WIFI NOW!
ROOT GUIDE: Follow this guide to use Kingroot and the root tools to set up your tablet.
At this time, Kingroot can only root OS 5.1.2 (February 2016) and below.
You can downgrade OS 5.1.2.1 (March 2016) to 5.1.2 and root, as explained in Root Guide, but this is an exception!
In general, never downgrade in order to use Kingroot. It's the fastest way to a brick!
You may be able to safely downgrade a higher OS to OS 4.5.3, root, and then upgrade in TWRP per @bibikalka's root Tut. Before trying this on an OS later than 5.1.2.1, make sure the tutorial says it's safe.
DOWNLOAD THE TOOLS FROM AFH ➔ . FireHD_TOOLS v 1.2
Update as of 5/11/16
➔ If you got the tools before the update, just replace the jobs folder in FIREHD_TOOLS with the one in attached "jobs_v1.x.zip"
Change Log
5/11/2016 - v1.2: Updated sideload.bat. (Missed the Find/Findstr fixes.)
5/10/2016 - v1.1: Fixed "No such file or directory" and "Permission denied" errors for users with *nix Find command installed
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Nice Work!
@DoLooper - Magnum Opus, no less !
Why version 0.1 ??? The first release - solid 1.0 !!!
Updated. See OP.
Guys, I could use some feedback. Tools are getting downloaded a lot. Anybody using them? Are they helpful? Problems? Wishes? Anything? Thanks!
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Updated again <sigh>. Sideload tool didn't get updated in v1.1. Apologies to those who downloaded the jobs zip.
DoLooper said:
Updated. See OP.
Guys, I could use some feedback. Tools are getting downloaded a lot. Anybody using them? Are they helpful? Problems? Wishes? Anything? Thanks!
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Thanks DoLooper.
I tried these tools on my Fire HD 7 running 4.5.5.1 rooted with KingRoot.
I was able to use the script to successfully switch from KingRoot to SuperSU as well as to install Nova Launcher.
However, I had issues with the script elsewhere.
The play store seemed to install okay and it let me put in my google account info. After that, things went down hill. I was able to open the Play Store app without it crashing, but I just kept getting the "Error retrieving information from server. [RH-01]" message . I tried numerous things to correct this, but nothing seemed to work. In the end, I downgraded to 4.5.5, wiped data, cache and dalvik, and then flashed gapps via TWRP. This worked out, so all is good now.
I also had trouble with blocking the default launcher. Nova seemed to install okay, but the default launcher still worked and was a constant nag with each press of the home button. I fixed this by freezing the default launcher via Titanium Backup.
I don't know if these issues are particular to 4.5.5.1, or if I'm just unlucky. Regardless, I still appreciate your effort for putting this together. :good:
I'm currently trying to get wallpapers and widgets to work on the Nova launcher with no success. I tried the fixes intended for earlier Kindle models and (not surprisingly), they didn't work. Specifically, I tried Stunt's Wallpaper Fix and Kindlefree from the app store.
Any ideas where I should look for guidance on making Wallpapers and Widgets work?
Thanks again!
notorious.dds said:
Thanks DoLooper.
I tried these tools on my Fire HD 7 running 4.5.5.1 rooted with KingRoot.
I was able to use the script to successfully switch from KingRoot to SuperSU as well as to install Nova Launcher.
However, I had issues with the script elsewhere.
The play store seemed to install okay and it let me put in my google account info. After that, things went down hill. I was able to open the Play Store app without it crashing, but I just kept getting the "Error retrieving information from server. [RH-01]" message . I tried numerous things to correct this, but nothing seemed to work. In the end, I downgraded to 4.5.5, wiped data, cache and dalvik, and then flashed gapps via TWRP. This worked out, so all is good now.
I also had trouble with blocking the default launcher. Nova seemed to install okay, but the default launcher still worked and was a constant nag with each press of the home button. I fixed this by freezing the default launcher via Titanium Backup.
I don't know if these issues are particular to 4.5.5.1, or if I'm just unlucky. Regardless, I still appreciate your effort for putting this together. :good:
I'm currently trying to get wallpapers and widgets to work on the Nova launcher with no success. I tried the fixes intended for earlier Kindle models and (not surprisingly), they didn't work. Specifically, I tried Stunt's Wallpaper Fix and Kindlefree from the app store.
Any ideas where I should look for guidance on making Wallpapers and Widgets work?
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Thanks for feedback. Tools apparently need work for OS 4.5.5.1. I tested pretty well on 4.5.3 and 4.5.5, but not 4.5.5.1. There may be some peculiarity there.
- The play store error has been reported on some 2015 Fires (using a different tool, but same method to install). It's unclear why it happens on some devices and not others, and they haven't found a fix, but it may be an OS 4 issue on the Fire HDs. I'll look into it.
- Nova & stock launchers: The block on stock launcher didn't work because it isn't implemented for OS 4. As mentioned at top of OP, only OTA block is available for OS 4. I'll need to add it in an update. Hadn't thought about need for it when using the Nova tool.
Would you please look in /system/priv-app folder and see if com.teslacoil.launcher.apk is at the bottom of directory? If so, are perms set to rw- r-- r--? Let me know and we'll proceed from there to get you widgets. Thanks.
DoLooper said:
Thanks for feedback. Tools apparently need work for OS 4.5.5.1. I tested pretty well on 4.5.3 and 4.5.5, but not 4.5.5.1. There may be some peculiarity there.
- The play store error has been reported on some 2015 Fires (using a different tool, but same method to install). It's unclear why it happens on some devices and not others, and they haven't found a fix, but it may be an OS 4 issue on the Fire HDs. I'll look into it.
- Nova & stock launchers: The block on stock launcher didn't work because it isn't implemented for OS 4. As mentioned at top of OP, only OTA block is available for OS 4. I'll need to add it in an update. Hadn't thought about need for it when using the Nova tool.
Would you please look in /system/priv-app folder and see if com.teslacoil.launcher.apk is at the bottom of directory? If so, are perms set to rw- r-- r--? Let me know and we'll proceed from there to get you widgets. Thanks.
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Thanks for the help!
I found the com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk file, but it's in my /data/app folder... and it is chmod'ed to 644.
Also, I did successfully install the AppWidgetPicker.apk and LiveWallpapersPicker.apk files to /system/app using the "kindlefree" app, but I think that about all the app did. These files are also chmod'ed to 644.
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Thanks for the help!
I found the com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk file, but it's in my /data/app folder... and it is chmod'ed to 644.
Also, I did successfully install the AppWidgetPicker.apk and LiveWallpapersPicker.apk files to /system/app using the "kindlefree" app, but I think that about all the app did. These files are also chmod'ed to 644.
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I've been using OS 5 for too long! Forgot you can't get wallpaper on OS 4 without fussing. It's unclear from your post: Did the pickers get wallpaper to work? This is the way we did it back when we always booted twrp and installed xposed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-wallpaper-custom-launcher-t3123009
As to widgets: What I meant is, you should have /system/priv-app/com.teslacoil.launcher_4.2.2.apk. Do you? I just retested this on 4.5.3. Nova (com.teslacoil.launcher_4.2.2.apk) got copied there and chmod'ed to 644 as it should and widgets are working fine.
No wallpaper is a bad problem, though, and no tool can fix it--unless that LiveWallpapersPicker DID work. Let me know. And let me know about /system/priv-app/com.teslacoil.launcher_4.2.2.apk.
BTW, how come you want to stay on OS 4?
DoLooper said:
I've been using OS 5 for too long! Forgot you can't get wallpaper on OS 4 without fussing. It's unclear from your post: Did the pickers get wallpaper to work?
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DoLooper said:
This is the way we did it back when we always booted twrp and installed xposed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-wallpaper-custom-launcher-t3123009
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I think I tried that to no avail, but I can't remember exactly which module I used.
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As to widgets: What I meant is, you should have /system/priv-app/com.teslacoil.launcher_4.2.2.apk. Do you? I just retested this on 4.5.3. Nova (com.teslacoil.launcher_4.2.2.apk) got copied there and chmod'ed to 644 as it should and widgets are working fine.
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I think I ended up installing Nova via the app store so that's why it wasn't on the system partition. However, my widgets seemed to work when I checked again. I have no idea why they wouldn't work when I first tried them. I did end up creating two simple scripts via the "Scripter" app that would enable and disable the stock launcher. I put them as widgets on the nova desktop allowing for single click toggling of the stock launcher.
DoLooper said:
No wallpaper is a bad problem, though, and no tool can fix it--unless that LiveWallpapersPicker DID work. Let me know. And let me know about /system/priv-app/com.teslacoil.launcher_4.2.2.apk.
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No, nothing seemed to fix the wallpaper... always black. Am understanding this correctly that the wallpaper works on this thing if I load Lollipop?
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BTW, how come you want to stay on OS 4?
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I didn't want to fiddle around with change the bootloaders every time I wanted into TWRP. At this point, it doesn't matter anyway... I hard bricked the device by flashing the 5.2.0 stock recovery last night
The post about using this to revert to stock should be edited or removed. It's bad.
The only reason I was trying to revert to stock was that I ended up getting into a situation where the stock launcher would continue looping back to the Welcome/select language screen. I wiped cache, data, and dalvik and reflashed the 4.5.5 rom which didn't fix it. I even tried that same approach including a wipe of system... same result. I was quite surprised to see the problem continue even after wiping everything. At that point I figured I go back to full stock and start over... BAD IDEA.
Anyway, I ordered a new one and it should be here tomorrow. I'm now curious if it's possible to recover the bricked device via the UART port on the motherboard. We'll see.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
notorious.dds said:
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I think I ended up installing Nova via the app store so that's why it wasn't on the system partition. However, my widgets seemed to work when I checked again. I have no idea why they wouldn't work when I first tried them. I did end up creating two simple scripts via the "Scripter" app that would enable and disable the stock launcher. I put them as widgets on the nova desktop allowing for single click toggling of the stock launcher.
No, nothing seemed to fix the wallpaper... always black. Am understanding this correctly that the wallpaper works on this thing if I load Lollipop?
I didn't want to fiddle around with change the bootloaders every time I wanted into TWRP. At this point, it doesn't matter anyway... I hard bricked the device by flashing the 5.2.0 stock recovery last night
The post about using this to revert to stock should be edited or removed. It's bad.
The only reason I was trying to revert to stock was that I ended up getting into a situation where the stock launcher would continue looping back to the Welcome/select language screen. I wiped cache, data, and dalvik and reflashed the 4.5.5 rom which didn't fix it. I even tried that same approach including a wipe of system... same result. I was quite surprised to see the problem continue even after wiping everything. At that point I figured I go back to full stock and start over... BAD IDEA.
Anyway, I ordered a new one and it should be here tomorrow. I'm now curious if it's possible to recover the bricked device via the UART port on the motherboard. We'll see.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Sorry to hear about the brick. Good thing Amazon is patient with us.
Yes, wallpaper works fine on OS 5. [For others who read this, on OS 4 the only way to get wallpaper is with Xposed (installed in TWRP) and the kindleBG module in the link I posted above. And BTW, although the tools don't block OS 4 Amazon launcher ATM, it can be done manually. Commands are here.]
Thanks for your input. Play store didn't work for me either this time, despite earlier success. Everything else except the launcher block (and other non-OTA blocks) does work, so for now I'm just going to edit post and see if there's any other interest in play store on OS 4. (I trust you'll get OS 5 on replacement or will want to update to it.)
As to TWRP: Once tablet is set up, booting TWRP isn't needed much except for upgrading. and bibikalka gives us lots of options for doing it.
Let us know if anything comes of UART port tests. You'd be the hero of the community!
Workaround for Windows username with spaces
The Install Other Launcher and Install Kingroot jobs may not complete if your Windows username has spaces in it. I'll fix this in next update. Meanwhile here's the workaround:
1. Right-click RUNME.bat and choose Edit. [file opens in Notepad]
2. Add a blank line under :: Set paths and run menu.
3. Type: SET "username=abc"
4. Make sure this section of RUNME looks like below and then save and close Notepad
Code:
:: Set paths and run menu.
SET "username=abc"
SET "main=%CD%\"
SET "jobsdir=%main%jobs\"
[remaining code]
This changes the username only for the tools. The rest of Windows continues to use the real username.
I'm getting ready to update. Please let me know if you found any problems.
Used the tool on my Fire HD 6 (4th Gen) running a Rooted OS 5.1.2.1 to install a new launcher and block OTA's, ads, fire launcher, appstore, and Amazon search. Everything worked without issue! Thanks for the awesome and simple to use tool! Tablet is now almost pure Android. Great work!!!
Sidenote: Used bibikalka's TUT (http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-upgrade-to-lollipop-root-gapps-t3163950) on my Fire HD 6 that was currently running Fire OS 4.5.3 with TWRP Recovery to obtain a Rooted Fire OS 5.1.2.1..
I adb'd the 5.1.2 upgrade to my slab this way.
$ adb push update-kindle-20.5.4.2_user_542168620.bin /sdcard/
3047 KB/s (663908627 bytes in 212.722s)
My OS is FIRE OS 5.1.2 Build Date March 31, 2016 1:37 AM.
I tried and got an error to the effect, "cannot upgrade because the upgrade you are trying is older than the one you have".
So I'm probably running an even later version of 5.1.2 where they blocked that loophole.
I'm just going to by a cheap Chinese slab and root that.
wallywallywally said:
I adb'd the 5.1.2 upgrade to my slab this way.
$ adb push update-kindle-20.5.4.2_user_542168620.bin /sdcard/
3047 KB/s (663908627 bytes in 212.722s)
My OS is FIRE OS 5.1.2 Build Date March 31, 2016 1:37 AM.
I tried and got an error to the effect, "cannot upgrade because the upgrade you are trying is older than the one you have".
So I'm probably running an even later version of 5.1.2 where they blocked that loophole.
I'm just going to by a cheap Chinese slab and root that.
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use adb sideload in Stock recovery
Sent from my KFFOWI using XDA Labs
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use adb sideload in Stock recovery
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Yuh, I used sideload AND IT WORKED!!
I also have a fire 5th generation. Does the same procedure work for that, assuming I use the proper 5.1.2 for that device: https://kindle-fire-updates.s3.amaz...ate-kindle-global-37.5.4.2_user_542168620.bin
wallywallywally said:
Yuh, I used sideload AND IT WORKED!!
I also have a fire 5th generation. Does the same procedure work for that, assuming I use the proper 5.1.2 for that device: https://kindle-fire-updates.s3.amaz...ate-kindle-global-37.5.4.2_user_542168620.bin
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Confirmed, this procedure worked for Fire (5th generation), however the amazon update file is different (see a few posts back)
I just got a fire HD 6 (4th Gen) with the 4.5.2 OS.
Everything I see talks about 4.5.3 and later. I have not turned on wifi, so basically in a holding pattern for now. I want to root/twrp and maybe a custom rom.
Can some give me advice on the best path to take? Should I upgrade then root? Or root then upgrade? Any advice is appreciated.
Where to find 32bit version ?
Would it be possible to repackage the installer? Version 1.2.3 runs perfectly but will stop booting at random and beta version 2.0.3 boots every time but crashes within 20 minutes. Would it be possible for someone to combine the boot loader from the beta and the system os from 1.2.3? I don't know if its even possible or if that will even solve the problem but those of us with a Cube Mix Plus, an i7 or i9 would greatly appreciate such a fix
In my 64 bit CPU all android x86 32 bit versions run fine but 64 bit says opcode error. I made a screenshot Form CPU info and boot error. System will loop before bootlogo.
But Win 7 64 and win 10 64 run fine. So it is a real 64 bit CPU.
I have read a while and found out that it seems to be a Compiler Problem when it uses sse4 or sse5, is it possible to say the Compiler to dont use these.
Found this: it Seen to be possible to emulate sse4 on Intel
https://sourceforge.net/p/android-x86/misc/3/
Phoenix OS v2.0.3 google services?
It works very well.!
Missing google store, how do I install google services?
(Google translation)
krono2 said:
It works very well.!
Missing google store, how do I install google services?
(Google translation)
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I'm working on it.
edit : I can't make new thread.
So I wrote on my blog. But I am concerned that writing a link here is a violation of the rules.
What's your blog's name?
Gracias. Funcionó
how to root 2.03 and install google apps:
-assuming you did a normal install first
-install RMXtools 1.6 + 1.8 fix on windows...
-run RMXtools and extract system.img, root64, rebuild system image same size, now you have a new system rooted then you just need to replace your original system image with this one.
-boot phoenix, supersu should be visible now but you need to update it first with latest beta from xda, then you can update the binary file.
-go to apkmirror and download Google playstore, latest playservices 10.5.55-480, service framework 7.1, Account Manager, One Time Init, Partner Setup.
-install lucky patcher, grant root access, click on rebuild&install, sdcard/download, click on playstore.apk, install as System app, don't reboot yet, do the same for service framework, account manager,OTI, Partner setup, then install play services as a normal app, now you can reboot.
-go to settings / apps, check the permissions for all the apps you just installed (show system)
-go to settings / autorun check to enable play services if it shows
-reboot again and log in, enjoy!!!
Is anything known about whether in the end there will be a 32 bit version and whether Gapps and Root will be added again in the same they were in v1.2? Even though the beta moniker seems to be gone I get the feeling v2.0.3 is still a beta and not really ready for the everyday user.
badpixel134 said:
I'm working on it.
edit : I can't make new thread.
So I wrote on my blog. But I am concerned that writing a link here is a violation of the rules.
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Great project but on my huawei Matbook HZ-W09 wifi always disconnects. Someone knows why?
Good news!!
Phoenix OS v2.0.3 32-Bit is now available! Still needs GApps and root. (see above post for that)
Hi all, i have installed the 32bit version of 2.0.3 phoenix os, it work fine, i have also tryed to do root and gapps installation, but gapps do not work, i was able to root using the previous procedure, using root 32bit, i was able to download and install the listed app needed for play store activation, but i get always play services crash, and play store wont start it freeze on a windows when opened, maybe someone has an alternative procedure to add gapps on phoenix os 2.0.3 32bit
hardware:
M/B: WINFAST K8M890
CPU: AMD athlon 64 x2 4600+ am2
RAM: 4gb corsair XMS
HD: 120GB maxtor
GPU: ATI X300 256MB
Bye all
wizmart said:
how to root 2.03 and install google apps:
-assuming you did a normal install first
-install RMXtools 1.6 + 1.8 fix on windows...
-run RMXtools and extract system.img, root64, rebuild system image same size, now you have a new system rooted then you just need to replace your original system image with this one.
-boot phoenix, supersu should be visible now but you need to update it first with latest beta from xda, then you can update the binary file.
-go to apkmirror and download Google playstore, latest playservices 10.5.55-480, service framework 7.1, Account Manager, One Time Init, Partner Setup.
-install lucky patcher, grant root access, click on rebuild&install, sdcard/download, click on playstore.apk, install as System app, don't reboot yet, do the same for service framework, account manager,OTI, Partner setup, then install play services as a normal app, now you can reboot.
-go to settings / apps, check the permissions for all the apps you just installed (show system)
-go to settings / autorun check to enable play services if it shows
-reboot again and log in, enjoy!!!
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Please define "normal" install? - I'd prefer to eventually do a dual-boot setup that uses Windows Boot Manager instead of GRUB (for touchscreen/tablet device support...and it's cleaner IMHO)
Does this work with 64-bit?
Any way to get this to work with live/bootable USB? Right now I've used the .ISO and Rufus to create a USB Stick.
Found this: http://bbs.phoenixstudio.org/en/showthread.php?tid=5732 -- Contains Rooted/Playstore ISOs
Outside of this...how trustworthy is this OS? There's a LOT of Chinese junk on here even after selecting English. Anyone try to see how much this is tracking and sending back to China?
Hi, "normal install" means installing with Phoenix installer or iso...32b or 64b, you choose on rmxtools, I did the root64...and installing to USB is possible of course, I use unetbootin usually but Rufus is okay too.
I removed all Chinese apps and i can check which one is running in background so for me it looks safe. Anyway it's always possible to remove or freeze some system apps you don't trust with lucky patcher
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androx74 said:
Hi all, i have installed the 32bit version of 2.0.3 phoenix os, it work fine, i have also tryed to do root and gapps installation, but gapps do not work, i was able to root using the previous procedure, using root 32bit, i was able to download and install the listed app needed for play store activation, but i get always play services crash, and play store wont start it freeze on a windows when opened, maybe someone has an alternative procedure to add gapps on phoenix os 2.0.3 32bit
hardware:
M/B: WINFAST K8M890
CPU: AMD athlon 64 x2 4600+ am2
RAM: 4gb corsair XMS
HD: 120GB maxtor
GPU: ATI X300 256MB
Bye all
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Did you check permissions and autorun after installing and reboot before login
Thanks for the reply, than i have installed phoenix os 2.0.3 32 bit with the normal exe installer, than i have rooted via remix tools the system img, using the explained procedure, with only changing the root64 option with the root32 option because is a 32bit OS , after that i boot up on phoenix os and updated supersu via web i was not able to find a xda version to update it :/, and after installing the newest up finded i upgraded it, to latest with success, than, i have downloaded and installed with luckypatcher the various app listed on the procedure (Google Service Framework 7.1 , one time Init 7.1 , google account manager 7.1 , partner setup 7.1, play store 7.8.15-p), i was not able to find on the site posted the play services 10.5.55-480 maybe is this the problem, i downloaded the 11.0.38-470 for x86 instead, but the only result was that when i try to open play store o create account on settings, nothing happen , i have cheked pemission and autorun and given all app permission, and play service autorun was already enabled.
After that i tryed another way, i have downloaded again the system app but with 7.1.1 version instead of 7.1, with this version i can see that play store is trying to load, but after a second play service crash and nothing happen again . ,maybe is play service that create problem don't know.
I will wait for options or a system file already done for 32bit phoenix os
I just checked my playservices and I have been updated to 11.0.38 (480-155006848) not available in apkmirror...but 470 should work for you. You can try clear data from store and services then reboot again and login. Remember system apps should all be 7.1.1
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Androx, I noticed my playstore show up as internal now not as system in lucky. Try install playstore again as user app..
thanks tried to install play store and play services has internal app but nothing changed the play services crash anyway , any one had success on installing gapps on 32bit phoenix os 2.0.3 ? maybe if you had success can you share your system.img ?
Ok some good news , now i have a working play store the up specified procedure worked after some modification just use the procedure with the specified file down
1) youn need to use root32 options on rmxtools for 32bit edition of the os
2) you need oti 7.1.1, partner setup 7.1.1, service framework 7.1.1 and account manager 7.1.1, play services 11.0.47-280 version for x86-x86/64, play store 7.8.36-all and lucky patcher
3) all the app must be installed has system app via lucky patcher, if something get wrong during initialization of the store after completing the procedure, try to clear all data from the app and restart and try again.
If anyone get success on duing this procedural let we know . good bye
P.S. it seems that this procedure was working too for 2.0.5 build 32 bit
Yes man, happy to see it worked for you, indeed having system apps on 7.1.1 makes the difference. I had problems too before cause some of my sys apps were 7.1.2. Notice that once Google update playstore or services, they will show as internal and not sys but that's ok. BTW, This way of rooting and googling should work for any x86 roms...
androx74 said:
Ok some good news , now i have a working play store the up specified procedure worked after some modification just use the procedure with the specified file down
1) youn need to use root32 options on rmxtools for 32bit edition of the os
2) you need oti 7.1.1, partner setup 7.1.1, service framework 7.1.1 and account manager 7.1.1, play services 11.0.47-280 version for x86-x86/64, play store 7.8.36-all and lucky patcher
3) all the app must be installed has system app via lucky patcher, if something get wrong during initialization of the store after completing the procedure, try to clear all data from the app and restart and try again.
If anyone get success on duing this procedural let we know . good bye
P.S. it seems that this procedure was working too for 2.0.5 build 32 bit
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I couldn't find the 7.8.36 version of Play Store on ApkMirror, so I went with 7.8.32. I will post my results shortly
Results:
The closest I got to getting Play Store to work is when it was asking me for login, password, and then 2-step verification. After that, it just said that it was unable to contact Google servers or something. My setup was like this:
Google Play Store installed as user app
Everything else installed as system app
Google Play Services keeps crashing when installed as user app. And the google play store just keeps loading without any progress. I had best results just having Google Play Services installed as a system app. That's the furthest I got. Let me know if you guys find a way to get the Gapps working.
I've been searching for a couple of hours and there's no guides or even clarification about what is possible with regards to running non-tv apps on the shield / android TV.
I really need to install a custom internet browser, VoIP apps, syncthing, firewall, maybe libre office who knows etc.
So:
- How do you install Full Google PlayStore?
- Do you need to root? (guide 1)(guide 2)
- I heard you can alternatively sideload apps via ADB. So I guess you need TWRP, and root? And where do you get the apks from?
In general, are there any non-UX limitations of android TV that would cause apps to not run? Or does it have the same capabilities as plugging in a mouse & kb into my phone's OTG port and then casting its screen to a TV?
Well here's a few thoughts without going into too much detail as I'm at work:
Full google play will need a custom rom I believe and you'll need to give up the android tv version of play and leanback functionality (I think)
There may be another method (still losing androidtv but probably needing root)
You can sideload via ADB or via a sideloading app. Or using network shares, USB storage, USB transfer etc.
In the past I've used Titanium Backup (rooted naturally) installed a load of games to my phone then moved the backups to an SD/USB to restore on the SHIELD.
There are also dubious website and alternative stores you can install or visit on the SHIELD. Not a fan of those tbh.
You can get APK downloader addons for web browsers that allow you to download directly from Play Store website. Chrome android doesn't support these I am lead to believe... but installing Yandex broweser and installing the chrome addon to that apparently might work. So then load Play Store in Yandex browser and you can get your apps direct from google... just sadly not the paid ones.
I've been meaning to get on this again myself. I'm really quite pissed that most of my paid Rockstar android games won't install from AndroidTV Play store. These games run fine on SHIELD but are flagged as unsupported. Thus forcing you to download them from dubious sources to get running due to the DRM. The TV store is very disapointing, the layout is bad, there's no reviews and developers just don't seem interested in keeping their apps accessible on the platform when they otherwise should be. The Rockstar games in particular run fantastic on the SHIELD and if I were Google or Nvidia I'd actively be trying to encourage Rockstar to promote these games as SHIELD compatible or enhanced!
I don't know about any technical disadvantages to the platform that hold things back but I'm sure many people here will be far more knowledgable. I just assume an app has to be fully functional with just the remote or joypad to be ATV compliant. I'm not entirely sure on this last question but I will say this, every app I've sideloaded has worked as long as it doesn't require touch control in games. I use a 5way hub so I've always got mouse/keyboard and additional storage options etc. If it can be controlled with one finger you can use a mouse to facilitate that.
thanks for the input. Yeah it sucks for paid apps and games. First I'll see if I can get by with just root and these methods, because I couldn't find any good custom roms for the shield. There is one on another forum but I couldn't get it installed (got stuck at nvidia logo after a successful install)..
I'm a noob to android TV, what's "leanback functionality"?
Twodordan said:
thanks for the input. Yeah it sucks for paid apps and games. First I'll see if I can get by with just root and these methods, because I couldn't find any good custom roms for the shield. There is one on another forum but I couldn't get it installed (got stuck at nvidia logo after a successful install)..
I'm a noob to android TV, what's "leanback functionality"?
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You can sideload any apk to the shield if rooted but there are apk's made for android tv and just mobile apk's with mobile apl's you lose some functionality of android tv however a keyboard mouse combo or even nvidia shield tv app will help you navigate through those apk's that are not made for android tv
As far as I know, sideloading apps means finding an apk, placing it on the device, and then running it (and allowing installation from unknown sources).
So at what point in this process do I require root? Do I need the root if it's an apk not made for Android TV? What is that process exactly?
Twodordan said:
As far as I know, sideloading apps means finding an apk, placing it on the device, and then running it (and allowing installation from unknown sources).
So at what point in this process do I require root? Do I need the root if it's an apk not made for Android TV? What is that process exactly?
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I side load stuff to my non rooted shield all the time its true not all apps will work but a majority of them will for some apps that have only a vertical view you can use apps like set orientation to have it in landscape mode just allow install of unknown apps for the file browser you use on the shield.
https://apkpure.com/set-orientation/com.googlecode.eyesfree.setorientation
You can simply place the apk into your downloads folder or wherever you like on the shield tv then install it from there using a file browser I personally use FX file explorer on shield but any should work. You can also use a file browser to add your cloud like google drive or one drive or whatever and install directly from there or browse to a shared folder on pc and install it that way too whatever is easier for you.
Apps that require root to run will not of course work properly on a non rooted device, however there are plenty of apps that do not require root that install and run just fine.
Yeah I always keep my SHIELD rooted for this reason. I don't know what the situation is with TWRP recovery at the moment but I know it stopped working in one of the recent updates. By being rooted you can use Flashfire app to flash zips to the SHIELD if you need to flash let's say GLTools or something like that. I mainly use that to force antialiasing for certain games. One thing you will want is either Sideload Launcher (on Play Store) or TV App Repo. Sideload launcher just loads a launcher that includes your non TV apps (They don't all work with the leanback launcher) or you can use TV App Repo to make shortcuts to them on the leanback launcher. TV App Repo will also need root to work, so yeah that's a great reason to have root when sideloading.
I could adb install the sideload launcher apk (got it from apkpure) to my 16gb shield tv 2017, via a usb-to-usb cable, and it works just fine without root.
Installing root is such a goddamn nightmare. You have to flash a full developer stock image for which you have to sign up to get from nvidia, then install magisk etc, and the killer is you gotta do this manual developer whole-image flashing nonsense every time there's an update from nvidia. Seriously why the hell can't we android users just get a proper version of the full opensource debloated OS that updates itself like a sane person? X_X
[Edit] Installed TV Launcher instead of sideload launcher. It can replace the default launcher and it is also so much nicer: https://apkpure.com/tvlauncher/com.awe.dev.pro.tv
[Edit] So a custom launcher like TV Launcher will insert itself as a suggestion whenever you press the home screen, and you can set it to Always use this launcher, however in many situations, like restarting your shield, it will default back to the stock launcher. You can read this but it's still fine to always have a prompt whenever you press home: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShieldAndr...hange_default_launcher_on_shield_2017_nougat/
I use Yalp store and set it up as different device (in my case Samsung Galaxy Tab S3). Works really fine for 95% of the time.
Question Please?
Can you please say which shield TV you have? I am thinking of buying one but am put off by the lack of full play store. Being able to install any apk from a USB stick may sway me (but still not sure). What I plan to do is install any apps I want on my phone, use an apk extractor to get the apk, put it on USB then use CX file explorer to click and install. Does that sound all possible on non-rooted latest full Shield?
Cheers.
Eric.
"You can simply place the apk into your downloads folder or wherever you like on the shield tv then install it from there using a file browser I personally use FX file explorer on shield but any should work. You can also use a file browser to add your cloud like google drive or one drive or whatever and install directly from there or browse to a shared folder on pc and install it that way too whatever is easier for you.
Apps that require root to run will not of course work properly on a non rooted device, however there are plenty of apps that do not require root that install and run just fine."
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PS Since you can install apk's easily did you ever try to sideload the Google play store apk (along with Google Play Services apk to see if they will install?
That would be interesting.
Gaps download for HUAWEI Chinese phones would be easy to obtain.
DBCAB said:
I side load stuff to my non rooted shield all the time its true not all apps will work but a majority of them will for some apps that have only a vertical view you can use apps like set orientation to have it in landscape mode just allow install of unknown apps for the file browser you use on the shield.
https://apkpure.com/set-orientation/com.googlecode.eyesfree.setorientation
You can simply place the apk into your downloads folder or wherever you like on the shield tv then install it from there using a file browser I personally use FX file explorer on shield but any should work. You can also use a file browser to add your cloud like google drive or one drive or whatever and install directly from there or browse to a shared folder on pc and install it that way too whatever is easier for you.
Apps that require root to run will not of course work properly on a non rooted device, however there are plenty of apps that do not require root that install and run just fine.
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Twodordan said:
Installing root is such a goddamn nightmare. You have to flash a full developer stock image for which you have to sign up to get from nvidia, then install magisk etc, and the killer is you gotta do this manual developer whole-image flashing nonsense every time there's an update from nvidia. Seriously why the hell can't we android users just get a proper version of the full opensource debloated OS that updates itself like a sane person? X_X
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You don't need the developer image to get root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/development/kernel-overclock-kernel-2-22-ghz-t3943079
And if you don't flash twrp, getting updates will work fine, you will just have to root again.
Twodordan said:
I could adb install the sideload launcher apk (got it from apkpure) to my 16gb shield tv 2017, via a usb-to-usb cable, and it works just fine without root.
Installing root is such a goddamn nightmare. You have to flash a full developer stock image for which you have to sign up to get from nvidia, then install magisk etc, and the killer is you gotta do this manual developer whole-image flashing nonsense every time there's an update from nvidia. Seriously why the hell can't we android users just get a proper version of the full opensource debloated OS that updates itself like a sane person? X_X
[Edit] Installed TV Launcher instead of sideload launcher. It can replace the default launcher and it is also so much nicer: https://apkpure.com/tvlauncher/com.awe.dev.pro.tv
[Edit] So a custom launcher like TV Launcher will insert itself as a suggestion whenever you press the home screen, and you can set it to Always use this launcher, however in many situations, like restarting your shield, it will default back to the stock launcher. You can read this but it's still fine to always have a prompt whenever you press home: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShieldAndr...hange_default_launcher_on_shield_2017_nougat/
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How is rooting a nightmare ? Once your bootloader is unlocked it literally takes 5 minutes to root..
Unlock bootloader
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp.img
install magisk zip
Reboot , you're rooted..
I don't understand why people suggest any other file explorer besides "x-plore". By far the best file explorer out there, 100% crap free. You can install any APK from any location using x-plore.. Most of the time I leave the APK on my network , that network drive is mapped in the shield settings, I simply browse to it with x-plore , and install any APK. If it doesn't make a shortcut in the android tv menu , then simply use "sideload launcher" by chainfire to launch whichever app doesn'T show up on the main menu.
ericritou said:
Can you please say which shield TV you have? I am thinking of buying one but am put off by the lack of full play store. Being able to install any apk from a USB stick may sway me (but still not sure). What I plan to do is install any apps I want on my phone, use an apk extractor to get the apk, put it on USB then use CX file explorer to click and install. Does that sound all possible on non-rooted latest full Shield?
Cheers.
Eric.
"You can simply place the apk into your downloads folder or wherever you like on the shield tv then install it from there using a file browser I personally use FX file explorer on shield but any should work. You can also use a file browser to add your cloud like google drive or one drive or whatever and install directly from there or browse to a shared folder on pc and install it that way too whatever is easier for you.
Apps that require root to run will not of course work properly on a non rooted device, however there are plenty of apps that do not require root that install and run just fine."
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PS Since you can install apk's easily did you ever try to sideload the Google play store apk (along with Google Play Services apk to see if they will install?
That would be interesting.
Gaps download for HUAWEI Chinese phones would be easy to obtain.
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I have the 2015 pro model NVIDIA shield, but do have access to a 2017 model at my brother in laws, anyway extracting apks or getting them from places like apk mirror then using a usb to install will work you can even install them over your network from your pc or laptop using a file explorer program that supports it. I have never tried installing the full play store on my shield as it comes with one, however I have tried to install things using a pc browser and the google play site to the shield and had some luck installing a few apps that are not available on the shields version of play store. So basically doesn't matter where u get the apk you can usually install it to the shield some apps wont display properly which is why I suggested an orientation type program to correctly display and use also be aware some apps might need a mouse or keyboard to function properly when you do this depending on what you install.
Roamin64 said:
How is rooting a nightmare ? Once your bootloader is unlocked it literally takes 5 minutes to root..
Unlock bootloader
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp.img
install magisk zip
Reboot , you're rooted..
I don't understand why people suggest any other file explorer besides "x-plore". By far the best file explorer out there, 100% crap free. You can install any APK from any location using x-plore.. Most of the time I leave the APK on my network , that network drive is mapped in the shield settings, I simply browse to it with x-plore , and install any APK. If it doesn't make a shortcut in the android tv menu , then simply use "sideload launcher" by chainfire to launch whichever app doesn'T show up on the main menu.
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i dont understand y ppl think their preferred app is the same or should be everyones preference.. never really used xplore so cant comment on it but this is bcuz i use fx file explorer.. it has been good to me for years and still counting.. you can access network and more if u get an fx license which is cheap.. u can set up windows, ftp, ssh, webdav over network... set up cloud storage... bluetooth... web access.... fx connect and other means using it.. root installer.. text editor... binary viewer... deals with archives... themes... multiple root settings and other settings... diagnostic tools... has builtin busybox or u can use any other busybox you have installed and more
agreed though, roots easy if you dont have troubles.. not sure what ur runnin but nstv pro 2019 unless its been updated since i last checked cannot simply install magisk.. u need modified magisk.zip which is an older version then need to do some trickery in twrp to get it to flash right then still might need some trickery to get it to boot.. i have to use adb root to change bootstate to orange before itll load and if u dont got adb authorized yet then i use twrp to set a script tochange bootstate on boot.. tyen if u still have problems might need towipe and/or mess with vbmetaand/or dtb partitions.. and im an experienced person when it comes to root, exploits, twrp utilization and fastboot (not claiming to b pro or anything crazy, just know how to use them fairly well and general idea of how things work) so i can imagine some ppl that maybe arent as experienced or new to this particular device would have a difficult time indeed.
DBCAB said:
I have the 2015 pro model NVIDIA shield, but do have access to a 2017 model at my brother in laws, anyway extracting apks or getting them from places like apk mirror then using a usb to install will work you can even install them over your network from your pc or laptop using a file explorer program that supports it. I have never tried installing the full play store on my shield as it comes with one, however I have tried to install things using a pc browser and the google play site to the shield and had some luck installing a few apps that are not available on the shields version of play store. So basically doesn't matter where u get the apk you can usually install it to the shield some apps wont display properly which is why I suggested an orientation type program to correctly display and use also be aware some apps might need a mouse or keyboard to function properly when you do this depending on what you install.
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Many thanks.
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DBCAB said:
I have the 2015 pro model NVIDIA shield, but do have access to a 2017 model at my brother in laws, anyway extracting apks or getting them from places like apk mirror then using a usb to install will work you can even install them over your network from your pc or laptop using a file explorer program that supports it. I have never tried installing the full play store on my shield as it comes with one, however I have tried to install things using a pc browser and the google play site to the shield and had some luck installing a few apps that are not available on the shields version of play store. So basically doesn't matter where u get the apk you can usually install it to the shield some apps wont display properly which is why I suggested an orientation type program to correctly display and use also be aware some apps might need a mouse or keyboard to function properly when you do this depending on what you install.
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Thank you!
have you tried the Aurora store? i find stuff there ibcant find in tv play store
elliwigy said:
have you tried the Aurora store? i find stuff there ibcant find in tv play store
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elliwigy suggested the best way to have full playstore, Aurora is a frontend for the real playstore, you are not downloading from an unknown source and also allow to install and validate the apps that you have purchased, also it's possible to spoof your shield as other devices making possible to install apps that in other ways aren't available for your device
hi folks,
i have try to install kodi 18.5 for about one hour without success.
it doesn`t work, the strange thing kodi 18.2 runs.
so my question has anyone same experience ?
trekstore said:
hi folks,
i have try to install kodi 18.5 for about one hour without success.
it doesn`t work, the strange thing kodi 18.2 runs.
so my question has anyone same experience ?
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Can you try debloat or factory reset and bypass Amazon account registration.
AmznUser444 Dev said:
Can you try debloat or factory reset and bypass Amazon account registration.
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Done,
I deinstall reboot and install the 18.5.
The debloat procedure I keep for New Year
Anyhow big thx
It works for me both stock Amazon and also after debloating/installing Google Play Store with Toolbox utility. Make sure you download 32bit Kodi 18.5 version from kodi.tv web site.
If stock, download Kodi with Silk browser then select the downloaded file notification and enable permission to install apps from Silk. Don't use file manager as it only opens the content of Kodi apk after registering the device with Amazon.
If debloated of Amazon apps with Toolbox utility, after downloading Kodi apk use file manager to install Kodi apk.