First off, I'm not a professional or even amateur programmer. I'm just a naive guy with a dream. With that said i hope you guys don't set your keyboards to "Extreme-troll-mode" when you comment.
A couple of years ago i had an iPod Touch, 1st Gen. I had it jailbreaked, and I did it for one reason alone, so i could play all the appstore games for free. I know right, I suck at being a good consumer. But that's neither here nor there. The means of getting the apps for free was an app called "Installous*" from where you installed the apps directly. Which means that the folks over there must have written a script (or something like that) making installing apps outside Appstore a reality.
So with my logical-non-programmer brain i thought "Well hey, if they have written a script that installs apps without using the appstore, why can't we?" I mean we have to change were the apps are stored, and making some kind of .ipa(app format) emulator.
Android is a powerful system and think(guess) that making it support .ipa (Apps) is doable.
*Installous is basically an app that connects to a website where links for apps are located. Since we wouldn't be able to buy the games anyway, the good folks over at Appstore wouldn't really loose anything.
I'm not saying that i support not supporting the fine authors of games on the appstore, but if this would work, we would have the best of both Android and iOS.
If anyone wants to tackle this badboy i'll support you with the small means that i have.
Android is coded in java whilst iOS is coded in c++ and therefore the apps wont run without major tweaking
You are not allowed to discuss piracy or circumvention tools/processes on this forum.
i want to order a kindle fire but i am not sure if it will work here in the uk as it is not for me but for a family member the person would just use the device as stock
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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krelvinaz said:
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Right, in the UK you'd be unable to access the media stores. Too much conflict in copyright stuff between here and there.
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
Thelgow said:
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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Yeah, if you had media to fill it yourself and could use your cloud account for music in the UK (don't see why you couldn't) then yeah that would work. But a lot are likely buying it due to them already buying into Amazon services. If his friend was going to hack it, that's be one thing, but stock currently I'm not sure it's the best choice outside the US as none of the Amazon features work.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could find uses for it, I just think that your tablet would be a bit more crippled stock without Amazon services than other possible choices, at least currently. So I'll say it honestly depends on what your friend would get out of it.
I'm using one here in Brazil, so I guess you would have the same experience I have.
All Amazon stuff are useless, except Kindle for books (the same Android app you install in any device). You even can't install other Apps because Amazon App Store blocks everything outside US (even free apps).
The only useful thing you can do to a Fire outside the US is to install third-party apps and root your device to make it like any other Android device. And I loved it for that: a cheap Android tablet, open, unblocked, and easy to hack. Everything I wanted.
The reality is that you'll be buying an Android tablet, not a Kindle as it is in America.
I got the amazon apps to work outside the us using us address and test card.I have rooted and installed aneroid market aswell.Just waiting for touch recovery and then the fun will start.
thanks for the info i will just buy the normal transformer or a ipad
it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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Yes, i can confirm. Using unblock-us is the solution, i use it in Germany and it works fine.
I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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Spotify is working, but does require a air mouse or keyboard for now.
Sideload, sideload, sideload.
Apks install as easy as pie "adb install xxxxx.apk"
Actually, any app you have on a rooted phone, you can send yourself the apk and sideload to the Fire TV (I use Root Explorer). As to whether they work or not...it is a try and see thing.
I'm really loving this device as well! I will say that it is really catered to those who have bought into the Amazon ecosystem (like me, who has prime and purchases all of my music from Amazon mp3 store... plus I have a slew of apps I've purchased from the Amazon app store over time). I have two of them now and was able to successfully sideload and run Amazon MP3 on one. I'm looking forward to future updates and expansions of the app store.
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I'm really loving this device as well! I will say that it is really catered to those who have bought into the Amazon ecosystem (like me, who has prime and purchases all of my music from Amazon mp3 store... plus I have a slew of apps I've purchased from the Amazon app store over time). I have two of them now and was able to successfully sideload and run Amazon MP3 on one. I'm looking forward to future updates and expansions of the app store.
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Exactly this. The Fire TV is fantastic for people like myself that are invested in the, as you called it, Amazon ecosystem. I'm looking forward to watching "The Sopranos" again once the old HBO content comes to Prime.
As for app selection, you can sideload most anything you'd like. There are orientation issues with some apps that are easily fixable.
Thebobc said:
I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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Thats great to hear. I just bought a 2014 year Samsung 4K Smart TV. I have a Roku 3 and a Apple TV as we well. Neither has StarZ or MaxGO. I have Dish Network. Will Max GO and StarZ Play work on Fire TV? i.e. Is Dish listed as one of the options to log in? If yes, where do I get the apps for sideloading? Thanks for doing all this research.
I also have Dish. I get HBO Go but can not login to any of the others with my Dish account.
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Dish from what I can see only has login to HBO GO? I tried others but Dish is not listed?
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Are these questions or statements?
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I also have Dish. I get HBO Go but can not login to any of the others with my Dish account.
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I had trouble getting logged into HBO GO through my Comcast login too, but I eventually got it working. I think there are issues between the app and the various provider login systems.
fredphoesh said:
Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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I was a bout to say whaaat we got all of it then I realized this post is from May lol.
I think we had towelroot in May? or it was later anyway so much changed since may
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They have apps on fire tv but can these not run on NVIDIA SHIELD? IF ITS an apk file..
thanks
I've wondered this too, I know that in the early days people had a little success with the Nexus Player for some US on-demand apps. Problem is I've never been able to obtain the exact Amazon apks. Somebody from the UK needs to extract them from a Fire TV. It seems that there isn't nearly as much of an Android TV app deficit in the US any more so the UK apps that you list are the biggest ones still missing from the Android TV ecosystem, at least they are for UK users. The way in which Amazon considers itself to be in such a cut-throat competition with the rest of the Android world, I wouldn't be surprised if they've locked their TV apps down from use on any other Android devices, while they pretty much beg developers to bring their tablet apps over from the Play Store... I digress.
If somebody is willing to extract the apps you list and any of them actually work, this tool would be really useful.
Has anyone tried any of the new 2020 Fire tablets to see if they have finally implemented app pinning (guided access in IOS parlance).
We've had Fire tablets in the past and they are completely useless for children, despite selling Kids versions, as they can easily switch from whatever app they are using to something random.
Just a quick bump. Someone must own one of the new Fire tablets to check this?
The HD 8 Plus does have App Pinning as an option. I would assume that means the 2020 HD 8 has it, as well.
Thanks JT, I discovered the answer by buying one.
The problem isn't as bad as I expected as they've hid the square app launcher instead.
Am a little confused by your comments above. I can only assume when you tried the kindles before that you didnt have the Kids mode enabled? Both of my Niece and Nephew have Older Kindle FIre devices (admittedly kids editions) and i always thought they seemed to be locked down well.
When in the childs profile they can only access the apps and stuff allocated to them. And all of the content is curated by Amazon to be age appropriate and no costs/in game charges if using the kids fire subscription (free for first 2 years then Amazon Kids + is £1.99/Month if you are a Prime Subscriber).
Having the kids tablets on this has meant that we can be confident they aren't doing anything they shouldn't and are protected from the worst the Amazon and Google stores have to offer.