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Well, I've asked a mod to lock the other root status thread. It was getting kind of out of hand. After about page 80, people stopped looking at what we had done so far, and trying to help by putting ideas out that already failed.
This is what we know:
Fastboot is locked down in everything but oem-78 mode. You can get to this mode by typing "reboot oem-78" at an adb shell. Fastboot is essentially unlocked, allowing fastboot boot and fastboot flash, only the .img images we try to boot or flash NEED TO BE SIGNED.
Goldcards no longer allow non signed firmware to be loaded, only signed firmware with a different SID.
All known flashing methods require the .img files to be signed by HTC. We do not have the privatekey, nor do we have any way to decrypt the key as it is RSA. Meaning this is a NO GO.
All previous known exploits (asroot2, g1 telnetd, DROID update.zip method) have been patched. They won't work. And there isn't a way around this.
All the partitions except /data are mounted as read only. Meaning, without root access, there is NO way to modify them. In the init.rc file, they are mounted rw, and directly after that mounted ro. We can read and write to /data as we wish, but NOTHING important is here.
The only folder anything can run as root out of is /system/bin. Every other partition is mounted with the nosuid option, meaning code CANNOT be run as root. Simple enough. We can't run anything as the user root, or the group root.
Lets try to stay a little more on topic this time. Please don't let this become another 40 pages of complete crap. And please keep this thread about root access, any other problems should be posted in the appropriate forum.
Thanks, and lets get this root done!
I'm currently comparing superboot.img in a hex editor to the vanilla boot.img for that phone so I can better understand what he did, and how. I'll see what I can turn up, maybe we can make one for the eris.
EDIT: It seems it's not going to be so easy. There's a lot of things changed. It appears he changed something at the top of the file right after the header, and then there is some sort of (SHA1?) hash right below that, but I don't know what it's calculated from. This is beyond my skills at the moment, I think.
Are any of the fields changed from the original boot.img show up in our boot.img? Chance of searching for each field in our img and replacing with possibly what he did?
is it possible that the guy who made superboot has htc signature, or somehow decrypted it???? 8-O
Yes I guess anything is possable but I think their is a better chance of monkeys flying out of my butt.
well i guess it was time to lock the other thread as some people could not play nice..... so i guess we will use this one now..... next idea anyone, and i am guessing jman will no longer be joing us, so it looks like we are on our own.
im ready to get this done what have we got so far?
About 140 pages of failed attempts.
well i know that much i have been sitting back following from the begining now im ready to get my hands dirty, though i have no clue what im doing
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well i guess it was time to lock the other thread as some people could not play nice..... so i guess we will use this one now..... next idea anyone, and i am guessing jman will no longer be joing us, so it looks like we are on our own.
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Ok, I missed something I think. Thats what I get for not refreshing every 10 seconds What happened to jman? Or is it better off that I not ask
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Ok, I missed something I think. Thats what I get for not refreshing every 10 seconds What happened to jman? Or is it better off that I not ask
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I don't think I'll be following these threads anymore. I try to help you guys, but in the end some of you just don't appreciate the help.
I don't claim to be an expert, and I never promised anybody that I could root their phone. I simply have information to share that I think has brought you guys to a greater understanding of your phones and the Android system. Most of you are thankful, but I really don't need to be attacked personally in these threads that don't even have anything to do with my phone.
I'd like to thank the moderator for locking down the other forum, I'd also like to thank whichever moderator deleted the message that was quite insulting to me.... I only happened to see it because it came into my email. Yes, I subscribed to the thread via email to try to keep up with you guys and offer any help I could as quickly as I could.
I'm sorry guys, I wish you luck, but I just don't need to be berated in open forum like that for trying to help the Eris owners out, so I won't be keeping up with your rooting efforts.
There are a couple of you that have been very appreciative, and please feel free to PM me.
Thanks jman and I understand, if I was in your shoes I would do the same and I reported that post almost right after it was posted hoping you would not see it. But I know for me I have a greater understanding of my phone and like I have said before Thank you very much for your help. It's a shame to see you go but we understand.
Binny
doubt this will help, its all that htc tech support would throw up at me.
http://developer.htc.com/
contains hero and adp but nothing about eris.
jmanley69 said:
I don't think I'll be following these threads anymore. I try to help you guys, but in the end some of you just don't appreciate the help.
I don't claim to be an expert, and I never promised anybody that I could root their phone. I simply have information to share that I think has brought you guys to a greater understanding of your phones and the Android system. Most of you are thankful, but I really don't need to be attacked personally in these threads that don't even have anything to do with my phone.
I'd like to thank the moderator for locking down the other forum, I'd also like to thank whichever moderator deleted the message that was quite insulting to me.... I only happened to see it because it came into my email. Yes, I subscribed to the thread via email to try to keep up with you guys and offer any help I could as quickly as I could.
I'm sorry guys, I wish you luck, but I just don't need to be berated in open forum like that for trying to help the Eris owners out, so I won't be keeping up with your rooting efforts.
There are a couple of you that have been very appreciative, and please feel free to PM me.
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Thanks for sticking through with us. You've been extremely helpful since day one, and I would like to say thanks and basically say what Binny said above.
I haven't had a lot of time to follow the thread, but, I too, am happy that it was locked. Hopefully the Eris owners can regroup in a day or so after we all chill out. Sigh. Fingers are still crossed for root.
Has anyone been able to actually BOOT any of the images extracted from the rom.zip via fastboot in oem-78 mode? If so, and you could post how, I might have access to an image with root access. I've tried repeated times to perform "fastboot boot recovery.img" but it sends it and then sticks on "booting..." I have moved forward with the RUU at this point, but the device never actually boots into the img.
Unfortunately, I cannot not upload the image due to my job.
Also, if anyone can help with goldcard downgrading, I might be able to downgrade to an old version with root access. My downgrade continues to fail due to the bootloader version being too high. I created the goldcard per the appropriate thread and it appeared to work as the Cell South thread indicated, but still no dice on the downgrade.
If your gold card is made right it should work.... are you putting the .zip on you gold card and renameing it PB00IMG.zip?
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If your gold card is made right it should work.... are you putting the .zip on you gold card and renameing it PB00IMG.zip?
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Yes, but it still fails with error 43, I believe. "Main version check"
Did you run the simlock option in the bootloader, and it passed
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Did you run the simlock option in the bootloader, and it passed
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Yes. Perhaps goldcard doesn't work on this device like it's supposed to.
Hi Guys,
First, I beg of you not to say RTFM on similar questions here regarding this. I have read them, and read them in their entirety. The problem I have is that none of them list how to get me though my issues on my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900A.
My problem is that I (as many others) really want to upgrade to the Kit Kat OTA released from AT&T a week or so ago. The thing is, I did root my device and as everyone know's this fails any OTA updates.
My question is two fold, but first I would like to explain that I rooted my device NOT for being able to install any custom ROM's. In fact I never had an interest in doing so as I actually like the stock OS's which right now I am still running 4.3. I rooted it specifically to be able to run network / packet sniffers on my own home network as a method to learn a little more about how things go over a network, seeing what I can learn and see if I can find any vulnerabilities. I also used it to try and clean bloat ware and other programs that with out root I can not uninstall or use, such as certain fast reboot apps. So, I really had no intention of using the Root to get me a custom ROM, as I wouldn't even know where to begin.
So my questions are this. Is there anyway that I can "un do" the root in order to let the device act as if it were never rooted? Or, is there anyway to force the OTA regardless of the device being rooted. My biggest fear is losing all the apps and files that I have on my device and I have never been able to get any kind of back up app to work, especially to restore anything from them.
I had read that one can use ODIN to flash the Kit Kat ROM, but while I have installed ODIN on my laptop, I am clueless on how to use it. I tried everything, but even with the USB drivers installed and working (I know this because plugged into the USB port, I am able to browse all the files on my device, yet ODIN continues to tell me that no device has been found.
Can someone please help me to understand what I need to do? Again, I don't care if I lose Root, I care that I don't lose all the stuff I spent months installing and getting my device where I want it. I really need someone to explain somethings to me as if I were a two year old, with out scalding me and making me feel like a complete idiot. I came here because everyone I have talked to told me that you guys would be the ones that could help me, and if you can't, then I am screwed and will have to just wipe the entire device and I just can't do that. I may wind up having to buy a new device and just transfer over what ever I can, however, in the mean time that is not an option.
To this end, I come begging for some serious help since I know you guys are the literal gods of Androids. If I must take some kind of custom ROM in order to get Kit Kat, I am somewhat willing, but I do not fully understand or know what ROM I would want to install as I have never in my life seen a custom ROM and what the benefits of having one are which is kind of why I really want to stick with the stock ROM and just keep getting the updates via OTA.
I have all the faith in the world you guys can help, I just don't know if anyone is willing to help since I know similar questions have been asked, but I do not know how to use what I learned for my particular device.
Thanks very much.
EU
Dardwizzle said:
Hi Guys,
First, I beg of you not to say RTFM on similar questions here regarding this. I have read them, and read them in their entirety. The problem I have is that none of them list how to get me though my issues on my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900A.
My problem is that I (as many others) really want to upgrade to the Kit Kat OTA released from AT&T a week or so ago. The thing is, I did root my device and as everyone know's this fails any OTA updates.
My question is two fold, but first I would like to explain that I rooted my device NOT for being able to install any custom ROM's. In fact I never had an interest in doing so as I actually like the stock OS's which right now I am still running 4.3. I rooted it specifically to be able to run network / packet sniffers on my own home network as a method to learn a little more about how things go over a network, seeing what I can learn and see if I can find any vulnerabilities. I also used it to try and clean bloat ware and other programs that with out root I can not uninstall or use, such as certain fast reboot apps. So, I really had no intention of using the Root to get me a custom ROM, as I wouldn't even know where to begin.
So my questions are this. Is there anyway that I can "un do" the root in order to let the device act as if it were never rooted? Or, is there anyway to force the OTA regardless of the device being rooted. My biggest fear is losing all the apps and files that I have on my device and I have never been able to get any kind of back up app to work, especially to restore anything from them.
I had read that one can use ODIN to flash the Kit Kat ROM, but while I have installed ODIN on my laptop, I am clueless on how to use it. I tried everything, but even with the USB drivers installed and working (I know this because plugged into the USB port, I am able to browse all the files on my device, yet ODIN continues to tell me that no device has been found.
Can someone please help me to understand what I need to do? Again, I don't care if I lose Root, I care that I don't lose all the stuff I spent months installing and getting my device where I want it. I really need someone to explain somethings to me as if I were a two year old, with out scalding me and making me feel like a complete idiot. I came here because everyone I have talked to told me that you guys would be the ones that could help me, and if you can't, then I am screwed and will have to just wipe the entire device and I just can't do that. I may wind up having to buy a new device and just transfer over what ever I can, however, in the mean time that is not an option.
To this end, I come begging for some serious help since I know you guys are the literal gods of Androids. If I must take some kind of custom ROM in order to get Kit Kat, I am somewhat willing, but I do not fully understand or know what ROM I would want to install as I have never in my life seen a custom ROM and what the benefits of having one are which is kind of why I really want to stick with the stock ROM and just keep getting the updates via OTA.
I have all the faith in the world you guys can help, I just don't know if anyone is willing to help since I know similar questions have been asked, but I do not know how to use what I learned for my particular device.
Thanks very much.
EU
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does ur kies run? if so turn it off.
USB debugging off? turn it on.
are u in download mode of ur phone? if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen.
after that u can plug in ur phone.
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antique_sonic said:
does ur kies run? if so turn it off.
USB debugging off? turn it on.
are u in download mode of ur phone? if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen.
after that u can plug in ur phone.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
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Hi antique_sonic, I would just like to clarify a couple things as well as answer your questions.
>does ur kies run? if so turn it off. <--- If you mean is it installed on my laptop and work? Yes it is, and yes it does, however, I almost never use it. Mainly because I was told that once you root a Samsung Device, Kies is no longer able to be used.
>USB debugging off? turn it on. <--- It is and has been turned on in an effort to try to sideload KitKat, but that was a hug fail. But I will leave it on for this discussion.
>are u in download mode of ur phone? <---- I have gotten here before but don't exactly know what to do once I am there since I don't know where to get a Kit Kat ROM, where to put it once I have it, or how to use anything in d/l mode.
> if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen. after that u can plug in ur phone. <--- Are these instructions for wiping the device back to the factory default? Will I lose everything currently installed and loaded on my Note 3? Or does this some how fix / allow for the OTA update to install completely because it no longer can tell the device is rooted?
Again, I must apologize because this is so greek to me.I am just trying to understand at this point what infact the instructions you gave me do, and what they are intended for. Is this just to get the USB drives to work properly? Or is this something that will help me undo root so that I would be able to install KitKat via the AT&T OTA. If now the latter, where I can I get a complete Kit Kat ROM and use ODIN to flash the ROM? This outcome would suck because I believe that this will cause me to lose everything on my device I worked so hard to get where I wanted. I have just over looked the fact that in rooting my device I there by killed my ability to keep my device updated with the latest OTA releases / patches.
Again, I appreciate you reply, but sadly I am in need of a bit more info if you could please.
Thank you so very much. I hope one day to be able to pay it forward, passing along the knowledge you have shared with me,
Regards,
EU
Dardwizzle said:
Hi antique_sonic, I would just like to clarify a couple things as well as answer your questions.
>does ur kies run? if so turn it off. <--- If you mean is it installed on my laptop and work? Yes it is, and yes it does, however, I almost never use it. Mainly because I was told that once you root a Samsung Device, Kies is no longer able to be used.
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do check, is it running in background ? check your task manager. if so, kill the process. Kies should not run together with ODIN. Otherwise sometimes will give problem to your ODIN process.
I normally only install the USB driver only, as this is the only thing needed to connect your phone to comp (as MTP, or as ODIN connection).
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>are u in download mode of ur phone? <---- I have gotten here before but don't exactly know what to do once I am there since I don't know where to get a Kit Kat ROM, where to put it once I have it, or how to use anything in d/l mode.
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ok, in a very simple word. download mode is basically a state whereby your phone is ready to download system files and install the system files on your device.
This is the only state possible to get a connection to your ODIN PC to flash stock firmware, recovery (in .tar/.md5 format).
How to get the KK ROM ?
1) identify your device. which model it is. N9005? N900T? N900A? N900 blablabla?
2) goto samfirmware.com (register there if you don't have account. it is free). after that you can just find your firmware by typing on the search device textbox your device model (e.g N9005), and it will come out the list of your device firmware (normally they will show for the latest firmware list)
3) choose the firmware that you want to download (if your device N9005 international 32 gb, try to avoid the Hongkong / Taiwan firmware, as they have different PIT partition).
4) once you have the downloaded zip file from samfirmware, extract the zip, and then you will get the (.tar/.md5) file. Now you can use to flash this one over ODIN.
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> if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen. after that u can plug in ur phone. <--- Are these instructions for wiping the device back to the factory default? Will I lose everything currently installed and loaded on my Note 3? Or does this some how fix / allow for the OTA update to install completely because it no longer can tell the device is rooted?
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no. no. no.
This is how to go into download mode in your device
Not yet talking about factory reset.
But yes, you have to backup your internal storage, as sometimes upgrading will cost you to do factory reset, and your internal storage will be gone.
Dardwizzle said:
Again, I must apologize because this is so greek to me.I am just trying to understand at this point what infact the instructions you gave me do, and what they are intended for. Is this just to get the USB drives to work properly? Or is this something that will help me undo root so that I would be able to install KitKat via the AT&T OTA. If now the latter, where I can I get a complete Kit Kat ROM and use ODIN to flash the ROM? This outcome would suck because I believe that this will cause me to lose everything on my device I worked so hard to get where I wanted. I have just over looked the fact that in rooting my device I there by killed my ability to keep my device updated with the latest OTA releases / patches.
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up to this point, I just remembered that you have N900A (AT&T) version. hahaha.
I go check the samfirmware, no release of KK yet at the samfirmware.
I'm sorry, I own N9005, and I never explore too much on the N900A, so I won't know what is the latest release, and where to get it other from samfirmware.
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Again, I appreciate you reply, but sadly I am in need of a bit more info if you could please.
Thank you so very much. I hope one day to be able to pay it forward, passing along the knowledge you have shared with me,
Regards,
EU
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no problem. you just get your latest firmware first, once you have it, you let me know, i can give you step by step in detail, on how to flash to your device.
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up to this point, I just remembered that you have N900A (AT&T) version. hahaha.
I go check the samfirmware, no release of KK yet at the samfirmware.
I'm sorry, I own N9005, and I never explore too much on the N900A, so I won't know what is the latest release, and where to get it other from samfirmware.
no problem. you just get your latest firmware first, once you have it, you let me know, i can give you step by step in detail, on how to flash to your device.
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Sure sure, just laugh at me why don't ya!! LOL I will continue to try to find the appropriate firmware. I guess if I learned one valuable lesson in all this, it is just don't root your device if you don't plan on using custom ROM's. I had no idea that there would be no way to "unroot" your device once it's rooted. I was really hoping that you could just undo what ever is done to actually root the device, this way the OTA's will just start working again. Or that there would be a way to just force the OTA regardless of whether the device is rooted. I am not sure I truly understand why the OTA just won't install just because the device is rooted.I mean sure it adds SU to the device, and unlocks (I think) the boot partition or the boot loader, which ever, but regardless, why should the OTA package care and fail to install just because of that change?
Anyway, that's probably a discussion for another thread. I actually did find a Kit Kat zip that is like 150MB's it has a boot.img inside the zip, but it has nothing with an extension that ODIN can recognize. I would love to show you the zip, but it's too large to attach or email. The file name is 2400258.zip, but I forgot where I downloaded it from. It may be what I need to do the job, but with out someone seeing the zip I have no way of knowing if it's the files I need. I was not about to find any files with in it that are in txt readable format for me to say exactly what it is. It does have subfolders names Google and Android and the like but I am sure that is pretty useless with out seeing the full zip.
I will keep my eye on this thread and when I find something I can work with, or if you guys find anything I can work with I will come back and see where we can go next.
Thanks again bud!
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Sure sure, just laugh at me why don't ya!! LOL I will continue to try to find the appropriate firmware. I guess if I learned one valuable lesson in all this, it is just don't root your device if you don't plan on using custom ROM's. I had no idea that there would be no way to "unroot" your device once it's rooted. I was really hoping that you could just undo what ever is done to actually root the device, this way the OTA's will just start working again. Or that there would be a way to just force the OTA regardless of whether the device is rooted. I am not sure I truly understand why the OTA just won't install just because the device is rooted.I mean sure it adds SU to the device, and unlocks (I think) the boot partition or the boot loader, which ever, but regardless, why should the OTA package care and fail to install just because of that change?
Anyway, that's probably a discussion for another thread. I actually did find a Kit Kat zip that is like 150MB's it has a boot.img inside the zip, but it has nothing with an extension that ODIN can recognize. I would love to show you the zip, but it's too large to attach or email. The file name is 2400258.zip, but I forgot where I downloaded it from. It may be what I need to do the job, but with out someone seeing the zip I have no way of knowing if it's the files I need. I was not about to find any files with in it that are in txt readable format for me to say exactly what it is. It does have subfolders names Google and Android and the like but I am sure that is pretty useless with out seeing the full zip.
I will keep my eye on this thread and when I find something I can work with, or if you guys find anything I can work with I will come back and see where we can go next.
Thanks again bud!
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I don't like spoonfeeding too much actually.
but I find u r quite funny. no offence.
I have no idea this will work or not, but I found this as the 1st search result on Google.
http://www.droidviews.com/install-android-4-4-2-kitkat-ota-on-att-galaxy-note-3-sm-900a/
just have a look first nd don't do anything till u understand the article.
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I don't like spoonfeeding too much actually.
but I find u r quite funny. no offence.
I have no idea this will work or not, but I found this as the 1st search result on Google.
(I had to remove the link as the website thought I was adding it and gave me a no no warning that I can't post outside links cause I be a newbie!) BAH!!!
just have a look first nd don't do anything till u understand the article.
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Hey antique_sonic, no offence taken my friend, I am a giant goof ball, but I am also someone who doesn't mind working out my own problems. It's just sometimes with things like this where I am clueless and need a little hand holding. It's nice to know that there are people like you around to help out the dopes like me My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, and I will be looking into the link you sent tonight. I haven't been feeling well lately, I have two herniated disks in my back and I have End Stage Liver disease and I am only 39, so I sometimes get a bit under the weather and am down for the count for a few days. So I do appreciate your patience with me and all the help and direction you are giving me. I try never to abuse the help as that is no way to learn, and learning is actually one of favorite hobbies! Weird huh.... So, I am off to go read the link you provided me and update the stock on my website and hope I make some more sales so I can get some money to buy a new phone when I brick this one! LMAO! Thanks again Sonic, I really appreciate everything!
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Hey antique_sonic, no offence taken my friend, I am a giant goof ball, but I am also someone who doesn't mind working out my own problems. It's just sometimes with things like this where I am clueless and need a little hand holding.
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No worries and yeah you should try to find first. by this way, you will learn faster, compare if someone do the spoonfeed.
Dardwizzle said:
It's nice to know that there are people like you around to help out the dopes like me My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, and I will be looking into the link you sent tonight.
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My pleasure to help. And no worries for late reply, as I will do the same when I busy with my real life job.
Dardwizzle said:
I haven't been feeling well lately, I have two herniated disks in my back and I have End Stage Liver disease and I am only 39, so I sometimes get a bit under the weather and am down for the count for a few days. So I do appreciate your patience with me and all the help and direction you are giving me.
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you are welcome mate. I'm sorry to read the news about your conditions. I can't say anything about this, but wish you all the best. Don't ever feel down in whichever state you are, just do the best in life, and we will never regret that 1 more day has passed.
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I try never to abuse the help as that is no way to learn, and learning is actually one of favorite hobbies! Weird huh.... So, I am off to go read the link you provided me and update the stock on my website and hope I make some more sales so I can get some money to buy a new phone when I brick this one! LMAO! Thanks again Sonic, I really appreciate everything!
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GOOD !!!
go and grab sales, rather than you brick the phone.
Once again, u r welcome mate.
Hey all,
Long story short. I made a backup copy of my build.prop to my internal SD. I edited one line in the /system/build.prop. I rebooted. It was fine. I decided the change I made to build.prop was not necessary so I copied the backup I had on my SDCard of the original file back to /system/. My phone hangs on the "Samsung GALAXY S5 powered by Android" screen during boot.
I'm not experienced with ADB but I am technically inclined so please point out if I'm doing something wrong. I have installed the universal ADB drivers on my computer. I have installed the "Samsung USB drivers". I boot into recovery. I go to "apply update from ADB" (not sure if that is correct). I then run the command "adb devices" in Windows and it lists my device with "sideload" next to it.
I then run "adb pull /system/build.prop" and I get "error: closed". That is as far as I can get.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Hey all,
Long story short. I made a backup copy of my build.prop to my internal SD. I edited one line in the /system/build.prop. I rebooted. It was fine. I decided the change I made to build.prop was not necessary so I copied the backup I had on my SDCard of the original file back to /system/. My phone hangs on the "Samsung GALAXY S5 powered by Android" screen during boot.
I'm not experienced with ADB but I am technically inclined so please point out if I'm doing something wrong. I have installed the universal ADB drivers on my computer. I have installed the "Samsung USB drivers". I boot into recovery. I go to "apply update from ADB" (not sure if that is correct). I then run the command "adb devices" in Windows and it lists my device with "sideload" next to it.
I then run "adb pull /system/build.prop" and I get "error: closed". That is as far as I can get.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I would flash a stock rom to get the phone running again, and next time make a nandroid backup that you can restore with a custom recovery before you mess with system files.
I'm currently downloading a stock rom from a very slow source. In the 3hrs or so it's going to take to download I thought I would absolutely confirm I was buggered as it would be nice if a few ADB commands could save me.
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next time make a nandroid backup with a custom recovery before you mess with system files.
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I do certainly know better. But Samsung in their power have decided to Knox flag your device if you install a custom recovery. As such creating a nandroid backup was not an option for as long as I want my warranty. I do have Titanium backups, and I thought I was doing the right thing by making a copy of build.prop before doing anything... turns out I was wrong. But really, thanks for your concern and advice.
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Three hours huh? You should talk to Santa about a faster net connection.
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I live in Australia. We asked our government and they said yes.... then we got a new government. But in this case it's the speed of the host that was hindering. It's all elementary now anyway as the download finished. No one had replied. I flashed it. It failed. And the long and short of it is adb is now useless to me.
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You should know this already though as a five minute search on how to use ADB would have pulled up numerous tutorials.
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I appreciate the help. But I'd spent all day reading tutorials. Trying commands. Failing. Googling the error. Trying new commands. Failing. Googling those errors. After doing that for some time I thought it would just be more sensible to ask people that have actually had experience.
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You're also on the wrong site if you are obsessing over the Knox flag. Yeah, it might affect your warranty. Probably not, but I'll grant that it could. So simply decide up front it you want to modify your phone or wait out your risk free warranty period.
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So here's the thing. I don't want my cake and eat it. I will absolutely be blowing away knox. I just didn't see a point in doing it preemptively. The phone is only a couple weeks old so I decide it would be wise to at least keep my warranty until I'm happy it's rock solid and I have a good reason to lose it - nice stable Cyanogenmod I'm looking at you. Plus anything I wanted to do up to now I was able to with Towelroot and xposed. I just couldn't Nandroid.
Really. Thanks for listing the commands. As of this morning I hadn't needed to use ADB at all. I appreciate you spelling it out. I just wish I had of seen it mere minutes earlier as I would have been able to let you know if it worked. Unfortunately I didn't. But I appreciate the effort.
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And you say that your firmware download speed was host limited. I just did a search for half a dozen S5 firmware builds. Found all of them widely disseminated. And as one might expect, not all of the hosts were slow..
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I was using sammobile.com on a free account. I'm sure I could have found a faster host but I've used sammobile.com many times in the past and they've always been reliable. I'd rather wait longer and get something I trust when I'm not in a hurry than download a file that has the right name but is just from a random "megaupload" link or something.
Now regarding adb I got a lot of the information I needed through google searches. I also watched a number of videos. But here's the thing. If I were just taking the opportunity to learn about adb google-ing around would have been fine. But as the circumstances were a little dire in this situation and I've expressed that I've never used adb before and was not confident. I didn't know what I was doing or have the experience to know the implications of what I was doing. As such 1) I didn't want to take the chances of getting it wrong and screwing myself over further and 2) I seemed to have a fairly unique issue (can't boot, stock recovery, "error: close" issue).
It wasn't just about knowing the commands to use, it was about finding out whether I was even able to do what I was hoping to do from a stock recovery on an S5 (hence the title of the thread).
You're getting a little judgey, which is fine you're entitled to your opinions. But I'd ask you read my title and first post again. It wasn't about just getting the commands outright coz I was too lazy to look, it was about getting a number of questions that I didn't know the answer to due to lack of experience, and that I hadn't had directly answered through google searches. Also I never implied an urgency, it was simply a case of "I had a contingency plan in place (downloading a stock rom) but I thought I may as well ask for some advice in the time I had while waiting for it to download".
It's not as though my case was a dime-a-dozen, "answered directly a million times". It was a little more unique and I had answered many of the general questions myself and decided that my remaining hesitations are best answered by those with experience. I'm sorry that bothers you.
Plus the reason you were able to have so much success is because you have experience and knew what to look for and understood the compounding factors. I had figured your first and third command out for myself. I was missing your second and I don't know if that was my problem, but the error I was getting "error: closed" seems to have a massive lack of documentation on the internet. Not many people are talking about it and those that are pretty much just say "update abd" - I was running the latest version. That is where I was coming undone.
But if you're STILL feeling disconcerted at my efforts here is my session from yesterday right before I made this thread. This is literally only a few of the tabs I had gone through: http://i.imgur.com/WDB3qIg.png
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I just can not understand why you're being like this man. I've been nothing but polite. But I came on here to learn. If I was doing something blatantly against the community I'd expect to hear about it, but I just wanted help. You gave me help which was awesome but every time I took it or added something to explain my reasoning for my actions you added a lecture with it.
All I was trying to put across to you was that you don't know what I did or my reasoning for asking questions. I was just hoping you could see that your initial assumption about my laziness may not have been correct. Again, I'm not trying to be a **** about this and I really was thankful for the help you gave. But it seems you're more than willing to dish out the criticism but as soon as I defend myself or talk back you in turn get your back up. But I just don't understand why you seemed so interested in making assumptions about my efforts, my internet speeds and then telling me how I should be doing everything differently.
I have tried recovery mode and factory reset.
I'd like to refashioned the os and give that a try. But I don't want a custom Rom unless that Rom can be updated without flashing.
I really don't want to have to buy another phone right now.
I have googled the issue but the links are from 2017. I want some up to date links with current info.
Also a nice step by step tutorial would be nice. As I'm not experienced flashing and whatnot. Oh and no sarcastic comments like "step 1: find the stock Rom, step 2 plug into pc and flash" because that really doesn't help.
Nothing but a rude/unthankful/demanding post, so...
#1 use the search feature...it's your friend.
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Nothing but a rude/unthankful/demanding post, so...
#1 use the search feature...it's your friend.
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Only using attitude because people always send a bunch of useless inks from years ago with links to mega or google drive that no longer exists.
I just wasn't in the mood for the same crap I was told when I tried to flash stuff onto an LG G4. Stuff like being given instructions assuming I'm experienced and dead links. I'm tired of clicking on mega and drive links only to find what I'd been searching for has been deleted.
Even new phones have mega files people would remove.
I'm not blaming anyone. I was just sternly for the right stuff and no vague responses.
Yes I can use the search.
I should just garbage this phone. All I've read about it was issues and issues. Every SD810 and SD808 has been nothing but a mess.
I'll easily blame qualcomm for that one.
If you aren't experienced and not willing to take the time to learn...don't bother trying to flash. And regardless of the fact that all people don't provide "relevant" info/help, you should still be thankful. No one here has to do/help with all this stuff, it is a community and should be appreciated.
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If you aren't experienced and not willing to take the time to learn...don't bother trying to flash. And regardless of the fact that all people don't provide "relevant" info/help, you should still be thankful. No one here has to do/help with all this stuff, it is a community and should be appreciated.
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I can't install the android USB drivers because the PC doesn't connect to ANY port on my PC so I can't update the drivers (restarted, full shutdown, two different cords)
I can't get into the phone to access developer mode so I can unlock the bootloader
Let's start there. I found a video on youtube, but the link the guy provided was dead, it was a 3 year old link afterall.
I think, I am doing it right?
I am installing the Android Developer thing so I can get the drivers installed for the device.
then I can try and unlock the bootloader "somehow" I have yet to look into this.
I just HATE HATE HATE, when I am trying to do one thing and 6 other things get in my way and then things stem and branch off from those things that it results in me being so far from the original task that it's just aimless.
on BB10, to flash new OS, you downloaded a EXE file for windows, pressed it twice, said yes I am an admin and BAM, os was flashed.
Why can't android be that simple.
EDIT: if I let the phone sit, it goes to an "encryption unsuccessful" screen then hangs there for ages then just restarts. Sometimes I can get a factory reset option, but that doesn't do anything.
I went into recovery mode to wipe it, NOTHING
wiped the cache, nothing.
I am very very very frustrated.That's all. I just didn't want to be frusterted and then someone nicely comes along and says "watch this video, it has everything you need" then that video has dead links or something. I still am frusterated.
Why is the OS failing to encrypt, why is it corrupt?
Okay, new issue.
I can't get into the OS to bootloader unlock the phone. So I get an oem unlock error through adb. I guess this is the end of the road right?
Look for nexus 6p 4 core fix and you'll find the info you need.
I cannot for the life of me get this phone rooted or a recovery installed. Odin always fails and ADB doesn't recognize the device. Does anyone have any info on rooting this device? I really just want to at least be able to update this thing to nougat.
Nobody knows much about this device since it's not that popular. Some team named TWRP builder built a twrp for the SM-S727VL but it cannot be flashed even when converting to .tar.md5 or .tar.
Also I believe the bootloader on this phone is locked and CROM service does not function (if I am correct) on this device. CROM service will show it being unlocked but it seems to be lying to you.
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Nobody knows much about this device since it's not that popular. Some team named TWRP builder built a twrp for the SM-S727VL but it cannot be flashed even when converting to .tar.md5 or .tar.
Also I believe the bootloader on this phone is locked and CROM service does not function (if I am correct) on this device. CROM service will show it being unlocked but it seems to be lying to you.
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Well that figures, im willing to use my device to work at it if anyone knows where to start.
I have 3 of these... not a noob but not an expert...say Pre-elite lol. I'm wanting to learn how to go further than use everybody else's solutions to root my phone's if somebody can give me some advice as to where to start as in I know how to root put it that way I was one of the people back in the day with the Evo when it was actually difficult no worries most of them were fine but these files we keep flashing these ROMs these kernels these firmwares where does one start when a phone like this 727 VL is obscure supposedly and nobody is doing anything to be able to root them I have everything that I need I'm sure and if I don't get it. It's somebody point me to a person or in the right direction to get started on what I need to due to learn how to write for I mean what where's the first step on these I've always just use everybody else's files. If that even makes any sense to anybody and anybody can give me a hand or show me the right way I'd be willing to do the work from there on I just need somebody to stick up a finger and say go there.... I mean if we have a twrp written, and we have OEM unlock, then why can't one of us do this I've been around long enough I've read long enough I've never once posted in these forms but I've read them daily... I know I got the skills I just need to know which ones to use. Odin fails like he said, fastboot for some reason still won't recognize, I actually made it one step with one of mine but it has to be a little incorrect because the only thing noticeable is it pops up with vo LTE at the top instead of just regular LTE like this one I'm on now. I was able to flash it with Odin believe it or not with what seems to be possibly just stock S727VLUDU2AQG1_ENG_boot_boxwares.tar
BUT the point is I was able to flash it with Odin and also it did change something because my phone now says there's been unauthorized changes and it wants me to restart it all the time so it can correct itself however it does not, it stays whatever it is, yes I know this is pretty vague however I got to the point where I just started trying anything on one of these phones to see if I could get any kind of anything to work and it did.. kind of.
I will say the USB drivers that's you find every where now do not work you have to go back to looks like version 1.5.5 1.0 SAMSUNG-USB-Driver-for-Mobile-Phones-15510.
With these drivers fast boots if I remember correctly will recognize it when you do fastboot devices however it still hangs on waiting on device. I'm sure I got more information my brains just a little foggy at the moment it is like 3 in the morning and I hope I didn't break any rules posting.
I did try flashing from SD card with no success yet nothing at all just error after error. I have tried twrp however it's supposed to be for this 727 VL I'm sure it's the same one everybody's got because it's only in one place that I've found but it comes up twrp-3.2.1-j7popqltefnvzw-201 and it will not flash.
I realize I have been pretty obscure however there's no reason why if all 5 of us with this VL stick together we can't get it rooted because I'm not going to give up LOL
Keep up the good work
I to have a j7 sky Pro, we need to figure out how to get this bootloader unlocked I would love the links to any from builds or twerp builds you have for this j7POPQLTEFNVZW
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[email protected] said:
I to have a j7 sky Pro, we need to figure out how to get this bootloader unlocked I would love the links to any from builds or twerp builds you have for this j7POPQLTEFNVZW
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I have a twrp that I managed to find on the internet but i have heard that it was for an older version of the phone. meaning it has to be updated somehow. I do know that the phone had a security patch update on June 1, 2018. I am currently trying to figure out if how to update the twrp or something, but I think I might need a little assistance. Because I am no expert ROM developer or anything of the sort but I am trying to learn, so I can eventually build a custom ROM for this phone.
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I have a twrp that I managed to find on the internet but i have heard that it was for an older version of the phone. meaning it has to be updated somehow. I do know that the phone had a security patch update on June 1, 2018. I am currently trying to figure out if how to update the twrp or something, but I think I might need a little assistance. Because I am no expert ROM developer or anything of the sort but I am trying to learn, so I can eventually build a custom ROM for this phone.
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Like I said in another thread about this issue, We are not to that bridge yet. The bootloader is locked and we cannot flash it yet.
Justin1198 said:
Like I said in another thread about this issue, We are not to that bridge yet. The bootloader is locked and we cannot flash it yet.
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Okay, have you tried anything to unlock it. If so can you tell me what you have tried so I can see what doesn't work.
Masterx4020 said:
Okay, have you tried anything to unlock it. If so can you tell me what you have tried so I can see what doesn't work.
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See post #11 on thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j7/how-to/sm-s727vl-analysis-partition-table-t3858632
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See post #11 on thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j7/how-to/sm-s727vl-analysis-partition-table-t3858632
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Is there a way to tell if the bootloader is locked? (Sorry if I am asking noobish questions. I am just trying to learn.)
You can tell the Bootloader is locked because you get “Secure Check Failed” if you try to flash anything that has been modified. For example; The TWRP recovery file. We need root to bypass the Bootloader.
Allow
allow what
I feel like you're telling me to do something that's way over my head cuz I do not understand what do you mean by allow
I have read write access to root files now !!
I can now access all files on my 2nd of 3 J7s. I am attaching pics. When I try to duplicate and copy on my other J7 ,the factory ones, I get check file permissions access denied. However I've passed it on this one particularly. It also now gives me a security notice on the lock screen of unauthorised actions have been detected please restart phone to correct them. However even when you restart the phone it stays so it isnt temporary. I have actually even going to factory reset to see believe it or not it stays. So the next step would be one in which I need some input to know which files I need to modify to be able to install BusyBox Superuser and from their custom recovery excetra and we're in I believe correct me if I'm wrong.
Can't post pics yet so someone get at me here and I will send them to you to post. Or on my FB at Mighty.Whity.Titan
You can send them to me if you like.
No problem how do I not familiar with these forms
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You can send them to me if you like.
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One b a d d a d d i e i o and that said the old Google Mail you know if you want to send me an email I can forward them all to you cuz I can't post them and that's about the best I can do
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One b a d d a d d i e i o and that said the old Google Mail you know if you want to send me an email I can forward them all to you cuz I can't post them and that's about the best I can do
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[email protected]
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I can now access all files on my 2nd of 3 J7s. I am attaching pics. When I try to duplicate and copy on my other J7 ,the factory ones, I get check file permissions access denied. However I've passed it on this one particularly. It also now gives me a security notice on the lock screen of unauthorised actions have been detected please restart phone to correct them. However even when you restart the phone it stays so it isnt temporary. I have actually even going to factory reset to see believe it or not it stays. So the next step would be one in which I need some input to know which files I need to modify to be able to install BusyBox Superuser and from their custom recovery excetra and we're in I believe correct me if I'm wrong.
Can't post pics yet so someone get at me here and I will send them to you to post. Or on my FB at Mighty.Whity.Titan
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Can you please share the method that you used to gain read/write access? If you indeed have temp access, I can make it permanent also what firmware build are you on?
Absolutely
I'm not home right now but I'm headed there I'll be there in a couple hours I can if somebody wants to give you their email or email me because I can't post links or anyting I have the file that I used the wrong and I have the driver for Samsung for Odin that I used which I think I've mentioned in my original or previous post and by the way it is not temporary. This is permanent. I did a factory reset and it stays. I just need to know which permissions which file to go to to get my Superuser installed because it's still will not let me install that. But email me or tell me how to send it on here or something that way I can let you guys know or give you guys what I got. I'll tell you this I did not flash it with a v l ROM. I flashed it using a Verizon ROM the only thing that didn't work was my wife I which I think I originally and said back when I made my first comment on this thread I haven't done anything else I set my phone down and it was done clear back there I just didn't realize it. But it is not a VL ROM it's a Verizon ROM a v not a straight talk and my wife I would not which turned out to be something unrelated. I'm in no way trying to keep this from anybody because I know just how much we all want these damn things. But I would sure love to finish the job that I started but I do not mind handing over what I've got.
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Josh I just emailed you six pictures I just now seen your email in your post and Justin as soon as I get home if you can shoot me an email or get in contact somehow or I can send you everything I got so far once I get there
Here are the pictures