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What I like, and don't like - and you may agree?

I've had my Mocha Mate 9 4gb 64gb since Thursday so been playing quite heavily all weekend.
I'd say I'm a heavy user BTW!
Battery - its on 80% today after 7 hours, and last night was 40% when I retired. As the battery will get stronger on the next few days this will be a killer battery and easily last 1 day plus. Charges very quickly.
Size - Its HUGE! I have big hands and you need to juggle it on occasion. However it makes it so much more usable.
Screen - lovely. Great colours and detail.
Camera - WOW. Just wow. I am now selling my Sony digital. Just wish there were some obvious settings to set where the pics get saved to etc.
Speakers - not bad but I don't believe there are 2 in the bottom...
Fingerprint sensor - rocket fast! I use my phone in my left hand so its easy to set up, but in trying to set up for right handed use I kept hitting the power button by mistake and eventually gave up. This might be a problem for lefties who use the phone in their right hand.
A couple of times I've opened apps and the on screen menu buttons have not appeared. This makes it quite difficult to switch between apps with this bug.
Also plugging in a USB cable to transfer in pics from my laptop has resulted in the connection hanging. Its fine on my Oneplus3 so assume a bug. Good job it has a removable SD card!!
Phone manager keeps popping up (in the notification area) referring to power hungry apps but it doesn't seem to let me cancel these notifications permanently.
Another gripe is the notifications (as mentioned elsewhere). It gives you a total number but not the actual app icons to show what the notifications are! This is probably the worst thing about the mate 9.
Smart lock Trusted Places/location isn't available as Huawei in their wisdom decided to remove one of the great android features!
Google Play Music appears to have lost the equaliser in android 7! I've reverted to Captune and Poweramp.
A few tweaks to fw would make this awesome. I'm loving it - shame theres no s pen (ex note 7 user still in mourning).
I bought it in the UK from MYGSM.ME and had it from dubai on 4th day. Pretty good. I also like the included snap on case.
Hope this helps with anyone thinking of buying.

Only one speaker (right) works but you'll find some audio via the top earpiece too. But it's very quiet in comparison.

jonmorris said:
Only one speaker (right) works but you'll find some audio via the top earpiece too. But it's very quiet in comparison.
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True, i hope they crank the volume up a tad in the next update

Notifications should be fixed on the final build. It's still pre-release software on retail devices for some reason.
Hopefully improvements to camera and audio as well.

hey mate did you get a tracking code from mygsm? I also bought from them last Thurs and haven't received one. Can't wait to get my hands on mine , also got the same colour
thanks

Defo agree with all the things you've mentioned. Can't wait for the notification and other bugs to be fixed.
Really liking this phone so far!
Btw I'm on Build B110. Is this a pre-release build?

NiggZ said:
hey mate did you get a tracking code from mygsm? I also bought from them last Thurs and haven't received one. Can't wait to get my hands on mine , also got the same colour
thanks
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yeah DHL I think it was. Maybe the weekend caught them out.

sink257 said:
Defo agree with all the things you've mentioned. Can't wait for the notification and other bugs to be fixed.
Really liking this phone so far!
Btw I'm on Build B110. Is this a pre-release build?
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Me too.

Loving every bit of this phone. Have 2 major issues:
1. Notifications are a disaster! Why Huawei tried to reinvent notifications in android is beyond me. This is my first Huawei phone so not sure if its been like this always or mate 9 is special. I have to enable each app individually to show notifcations in the lock screen and even then its very unpredictable. The top notification bar only shows the number of notifications rather than showing the apps icons. Anyway, i hope this gets fixed soon.
2. This one I haven't seen anyone else complaining but maybe its not serious enough for others. When i am using the phones, it sometimes does not register my tap and i have to tap again. I see the problem gets worse when tapping something close to the edges of the display. Not sure if its some sort of Huawei technology to avoid accidental taps by your palm when holding the phone in one hand and try to reach far ends of the display, but its driving me insane.
Anybody else with these issues?
Apart from these, its the best Android phone I've ever used. My last one was galaxy s7 edge, just to give everyone a perspective.
Cheers,

Hi, I recognize the taping problem and it's very annoying. Clearly software related; lets hope it's fixed now with the new firmware.

Yes same problem here, but I think it's a software problem. I can draw with my knuckles in the edge areas with low sensibility.
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have you tried enabling touches on the dev settings? Might be worth doing that to see whether the screen is responding as it might indicate a screen problem over a software problem.

bonerp said:
have you tried enabling touches on the dev settings? Might be worth doing that to see whether the screen is responding as it might indicate a screen problem over a software problem.
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Good point. Let me try that.
Cheers,

malikons said:
Loving every bit of this phone. Have 2 major issues:
1. Notifications are a disaster! Why Huawei tried to reinvent notifications in android is beyond me. This is my first Huawei phone so not sure if its been like this always or mate 9 is special. I have to enable each app individually to show notifcations in the lock screen and even then its very unpredictable. The top notification bar only shows the number of notifications rather than showing the apps icons. Anyway, i hope this gets fixed soon.
2. This one I haven't seen anyone else complaining but maybe its not serious enough for others. When i am using the phones, it sometimes does not register my tap and i have to tap again. I see the problem gets worse when tapping something close to the edges of the display. Not sure if its some sort of Huawei technology to avoid accidental taps by your palm when holding the phone in one hand and try to reach far ends of the display, but its driving me insane.
Anybody else with these issues?
Apart from these, its the best Android phone I've ever used. My last one was galaxy s7 edge, just to give everyone a perspective.
Cheers,
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Sounds like palm rejection so u don't accidentally hit something

malikons said:
Loving every bit of this phone. Have 2 major issues:
2. This one I haven't seen anyone else complaining but maybe its not serious enough for others. When i am using the phones, it sometimes does not register my tap and i have to tap again. I see the problem gets worse when tapping something close to the edges of the display. Not sure if its some sort of Huawei technology to avoid accidental taps by your palm when holding the phone in one hand and try to reach far ends of the display, but its driving me insane.
Anybody else with these issues?
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Absolutely! And it drives me insane too! X( I am barely able to write a text. I also tried few different keyboards, just in case. But the problem seems to be the touchscreen itself This and the okayish battery life (with Huawei Watch and Gear Fit2 connected) are major deal breakers for me. It's just not worth that much money... To make matters worse, one could buy a S7 Edge for the same price! And that is one of the best phones I ever had -_-
Coming from a S7 Edge and iPhone 7 Plus.

Walvater said:
Absolutely! And it drives me insane too! X( I am barely able to write a text. I also tried few different keyboards, just in case. But the problem seems to be the touchscreen itself This and the okayish battery life (with Huawei Watch and Gear Fit2 connected) are major deal breakers for me. It's just not worth that much money... To make matters worse, one could buy a S7 Edge for the same price! And that is one of the best phones I ever had -_-
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I already now have OnePlus 3T in my other pocket and using them side by side. I might just switch over to Oneplus if Huawei keeps on delaying the release of a GA firmware. That'd be pity because i really really liked the phone and its camera.

Im also facing a similar problem with touch response and im wondering if a replacement will fix the issue...
My main problem is it's nearly impossible to touch icons or arrows on the top right corner right under the notification bar

samxxx99 said:
Im also facing a similar problem with touch response and im wondering if a replacement will fix the issue...
My main problem is it's nearly impossible to touch icons or arrows on the top right corner right under the notification bar
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Try to touch a little more to the left of the icon.
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Try to touch a little more to the left of the icon.
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Do you feel its a software issue (some icons don't have proper touch mapping) or digitizer is faulty?

yes i am also having trouble registering key press specifically on the number 1 or alphabet q on the keyboard.
if this is unfixable by firmware update I might sell and go back to samsung

First Impression and After Use Thread

CONGRATS on your purchase,
I know a lot of us have already received our devices, and some haven't. If you have received your new phone, post your first impressions. After using the device some, also post what little tricks you may have found, what you have fell in love with and what you dislike or absolutely hate. Also, what was your previous phone and are you enjoying your upgrade? I'll start by saying first impression is I love the size and screen. Real quick thing I do absolutely hate is Bixby. Tried it out a few times from the button, sucked. And the image recognition got me a little excited, but disappointed. I must also add, the face recognition is amazingly fast.

I use only FACE RECOGNITION - it is very fast, works 99% and I don't think one will steal, shoot a photo, print it... and so on.
It is the fastest and easy way to unlock the phone, I was wearing a hoodie and it worked very very well.
I am not the NSA, so face recognition is enough for me and I am happy that it is as fast as it is...
lienot

My Initial Thoughts
I received my Orchid Gray 64GB T-Mobile device yesterday around 5 PM EST. I have had a few hours to mess around with the device as a result. Here are my first impressions:
1. The screen is absolutely gorgeous. Samsung really hit it out of the park with this one. The images are clear, crisp, vibrant, and with absolutely zero pixels to the naked eye. This holds true even when the device is held close to the face. With that being said.... there are definitely some app and media content compatibility issues. Samsung tries to alleviate this with some built in cropping and optimization from the software side of things, but it just can't hide the fact that the content has quite caught up with the hardware. That is on the development community, though, and not Samsung.
2. Biometrics are the way to go when it comes to logging into and working your way through this device. The iris scanner isn't perfect, but, it is absolutely light years ahead of the tech that we had a taste of in the Note 7. The iris scanner ALMOST feels like a feature at this point, rather than a gimmick. With that being said. The fingerprint scanner is total weak sauce. This doesn't so much have anything to do with the actual location as it does the accuracy ratio of the scanner itself. I have long and thin fingers which make the placement of the fingerprint scanner a nonissue for me. To each their own. I would say that the accuracy is more a constant miss than a hit. I find myself using a combination of smart lock and the iris scanner with a pin to keep me going and it works well for me. I have not tried the facial recognition yet.
3. The device is blisteringly fast. There isn't any argument to be had here. Everything flies from web page scrolling to scrolling through the Playstore to loading apps from memory. No management issues yet that I have been able to spot. The only limitations are those of your data connection. The Snapdragon 835 is a thing of beauty.
4. The actual hardware absolutely oozes quality from the orchid color to the excess of gorilla glass and metal. The device is thin but not flimsy and big but not too heavy. Home run as per usual.
5. I am still working through battery life. I know it takes a few days for your software to settle so i'll report back at a later point with an update. Thus far, though, it is AT LEAST no worse than my Pixel XL. It might be a bit better but it is too early to tell. With that being said. The Pixel XL has faster fast charging. This sucker takes a bit to charge up. Not as long as it could take, but there is faster on the market.
6. My final point and my biggest issue with the device is primarily software. Whereas I felt that Samsung had finally reached a place of beauty with the final Marshmallow builds on the S7 Edge. The Nougat Touchwiz, or Grace, or whatever it is called these days feels like a bit of a step back. The software hasn't reached that point of optimization that the Pixel XL has nor even the level that the S7 Edge had. It feels more like the early Grace UX on the Note 7. There are scaling issues. The menus aren't always arranged in the best way. There is some scrolling jank in terms of the actual Android menus and whatnot. I feel that it probably has to do with an experience that wasn't quite optimized for such a unique screen, yet. I am hoping this will improve over time. I won't really hold it against Samsung. I mean, perhaps I am just spoiled after having been a Pixel XL user from the beginning but I won't say it necessarily works in their benefit yet, either. The S7 Edge felt polished. This experience still feels like a work in progress. Of course.....as of 420/17 we haven't even had a day one patch yet since day one is tomorrow...so......to be continued.
Feel free to ask me any questions if there is something I have missed. I feel like there is a lot I have left unstated.
EDIT: One additional thought. S7 Edge era standing wireless charging cradles are not completely compatible with the 8+ I have one and have tried it. The wireless charging cycles between connect and disconnect because the device is too tall for the cradle. The hardware inside as a result sits just at the edge of the top of the cradle and provides an inconsistent connection. This can be alleviated by sitting the device on the cradle sideways...but who wants to do that? Lol!

First impression...I no like it so much.
After playing with it all night tho, I like it. I got the 64gb s8+ and it's a lil tall but I think I'll grow into it. The fingerprint scanner that everyone is making such a huge deal about is in a great spot for me. When I go to pull it out of my pocket my finger falls right there and it's unlocked B4 I even look at the screen. The audio out of the akg headphones is great and it's even better in my car. Battery life, well, it's at 71% now and it's been on since about 7pm yesterday (10:49am now) and that's with heavy use. My only real gripe with it so far is I want to remap the bixby button to launch the camera. I think that would be perfect...Hope you guys are having fun with your new toys like I am

I've found it to be pretty snappy! I love the iris scanning, it works even with my glasses on. It is actually really easy to use one handed, with a rare supporting off hand assist.
The screen is of course impressive.
I've had 3 occasions where I needed to reboot the device because either an app refused to load. Play Store once, setting TW as my launcher (I was using Nova on my S7E so after smart switch when I pressed the home key it asked which launcher to set as default) and then trying to enable "Ok Google" where it didn't hear me. As an early adopter, I expect that there may be possible hiccups.

Not crazy about lock screen music player...Wish there were other options for that... Seems like I have to make sure I'm hitting exactly in the right spot to skip songs.
Becomes a bit of a annoyance when having to hit the button repeatedly to switch a song...

I'm currently at work and I have 4 bar signal while in the basement. My Note 7, S7, LG V20 got 2-3 or no bars. I'm extremely happy due to this. More to follow and im glad i got it.
took forever for Iris scanner to register my iris properly

Its a great phone overeall.
Fast and great looking screen. Feels really good in the hand.
I got the s8 plus and im able to access everything on the phone.
The fingerprint sensor works. I can have the phone in my right hand and press the power with my thumb and finger on the sensor.
The home key took a bit to get use to. I wasnt pushing on it like i should.
Gui/OS has some nice changes, that makes things faster or easier to do.
Bixiy isnt useful at all. Maybe once its update it will work better. But on a sids note i havent Accidentally hit the button. So thats good.
The obly complain i would have a bout the phone that some apps dont fit full screen. You can force them but then the sides get cut off.
I know its an Aspect rataio that should be fix in updates of those apps.
And ill have to test but i think the speaker is lower volume then the s7e. But not sure yet.

buttsak said:
First impression...I no like it so much.
After playing with it all night tho, I like it. I got the 64gb s8+ and it's a lil tall but I think I'll grow into it. The fingerprint scanner that everyone is making such a huge deal about is in a great spot for me. When I go to pull it out of my pocket my finger falls right there and it's unlocked B4 I even look at the screen. The audio out of the akg headphones is great and it's even better in my car. Battery life, well, it's at 71% now and it's been on since about 7pm yesterday (10:49am now) and that's with heavy use. My only real gripe with it so far is I want to remap the bixby button to launch the camera. I think that would be perfect...Hope you guys are having fun with your new toys like I am
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I haven't updated it yet, so I was stil able to use the "All in one Gesture" app that was discussed on XDA before official release.

My second day impressions are pretty much spot on with @TheAnarchist1. This is hands-down the snappiest phone I have ever used. The screen is brilliant, and this version of Touchwiz is (finally) excellent. I've seen lot of features that the other launchers have had for years. I usually install Nova immediately, but this time I'm rolling with stock. I also was able to remap the Bixby button to Google Assistant with no problem.
My only issue (so far) is with the always-on screen. I've had two pocket dials and responded to a text with gibberish while the device was in my front pocket. Clearly, that's not going to work. I'll probably have to turn it off.

Just got mine going.
Design is pretty good, however, I think personally I would have preferred they stick with the sharper corners from the Note 7 and less rounded screen like the Note 7. Basically make the Note 7 but with smaller top and bottom bezels and this screen size. This is fine though, here's to hoping for the Note 8.
Obviously the fingerprint sensor on the back. Would have been exceptional for the fingerprint sensor to be built into the screen as rumored, but I don't particularly think this placement is much worse than any other fingerprint sensor that is on the back of the phone. I've mapped fingers from both hands, and when two handed, I find my left pointer rests on the sensor so it is kinda nice in some regard. I use smart location and bluetooth device unlocks a lot, so I avoid unlocking for the most part, at home, in vehicle, running with headphones, etc... Iris scanner is very useful, most of the time, but it can be awkward. Haven't tried facial recognition.
I see SIGNIFICANT improvement to Touchwiz and now they finally get at least some customization options. I'm trying to make it work, but a couple hours in, I'm already itching to switch back to Nova launcher. Small little peeves, but overall, it finally looks good, and has enough customization that I don't think the Samsung launcher is too bad. I really wish they would stop loading messengers for Verizon and Samsung, to which Samsung's is un-disable-able. Samsung makes special customization and actions for theirs, but I still don't want to use a manufactures messenger. Google brand for me.

1. So far, I'm amazed how well the iris scanner works and it is totally a fingerprint substitution. The battery life is simply amazing imo, I'm using it to the phone quite frequently in fact I have been browsing the web and using all sorts of social media the past hour. I should say I've only dropped about 8%, I'm genuinely pleased.
2. Performance is snappy, I haven't come across "real" lag (arbitrary statement). Coming from a note 4, TouchWiz has greatly been optimized and made much smoother.
3. 4gs of ram sounds like a little in 2017 but it's holding up like a champ!
4. So far I'm just in awe how great this phone is just to hold. I was scared the s8+ would be too big, but it fits perfect in the hand and is comfortable to use.

I can update this post as time goes by, but so far I only have a few gripes and some are not of the phone itself but the software:
1. I was upset when I was forced to go from the Note 7 back to the S7 edge due to the battery issues ( Twice! ) and was upset again when the s7 did not have the option of showing your calendar events listed on the Always On screen and instead just had the full month calendar. Eventually it was updated and gained that capability, but now, the S8 is the same way! I am an attorney and always have somewhere to be or someone coming by so it was nice just to look at my phone and know what was coming up without having to unlock it to check my calendar. Not a biggie, just annoying that a new phone is without that option.
2. The screen ration thing does look annoying sometimes. You can just tell that you have this big beautiful screen but almost everytime you turn it landscape there are black bars and your apps look the exact same as on the previous phone. Like I said, this is just the software thing and hopefully apps will catch up and start utilizing the larger screen more.
Otherwise, love the screen, love the speed. Wanted to stick with TouchWiz but I have a thing about the bottom of the screen not being available and the limitations of the 5x5 setup so I went back to Solo Launcher where I can hide the notification panel and dock at the bottom which makes this big screen look even bigger! More native customization of the home screen closer to home replacements such as that is what Touchwiz has been missing for a long time.

My initial impressions on my S8+:
1. It's incredibly fast. Snappier than any Samsung phone I've ever had or would ever expect them to produce. Loading time doesn't even exist for most apps, and the various animations seem much better than their older phones - the phone's performance reminds me more of the One plus 3T than an S7.
2. Battery life is really impressive. It looks like it might have the best battery life of any phone I've ever owned, which is particularly impressive considering it's a bigger screen and a smaller battery than the S7E.
3. The fingerprint scanner placement isn't quite as bad as people would lead you to believe. I haven't accidentally touched my camera lens once. However, it is a not too high up on the phone, which leads me to only touching it with half my finger, leading to it not unlocking. If they had located the entire set up a little lower on the device, it would've been fine.
4. The S8+ is a little too tall for my liking. It's practically impossible to reach the top opposite corner when using it with one hand. Obviously, activating one handed mode is one solution, but I really hope with flagships switching to 18:9 ratios, developers start moving any and all buttons to the lower half of their apps.

First impression, absolutely fabulous phone. Why ist the small cores maximum freq disabled?

Other than AT&T sent me the wrong color (You had one job...) I LOVE the phone. Coming from a Nexus 6P this thing is INSANE.

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This can be alleviated by sitting the device on the cradle sideways...but who wants to do that? Lol!
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I got a chuckle from that because someone asked me in another thread if the charger would work with the phone in landscape position. BTW, nice review.

Just set it up. My only gripe is so far is I wish Samsung used Google version of restore data. I connected it to my Pixel and it copied everything but data. I guess the app wasn't able to do it. So having to manually download all my apps sucked.

Is this phone touch screen latency really so high?

Hi.
I've just bought this phone, and couldn't help but noticing that the touch screen response is noticeably slower than my Nexus 5.
Is it the hardware, or the software?
I'm afraid it's the former, especially considering that this is a china phone, but still, is it possible that not a single reviewer noticed this?
What about you guys?
EDIT: added video to make clear what I'm talking about.
EDIT2: tested the N4, N5, and P9 lite, and I'm 100% positive they're all that much more responsive than the Mi A1.
Does anyone know a way to improve the touch screen response?

Near three months with the phone and I must say that I haven't noticed that this far...

I am facing stuttering while I play fps games, and it's terrible.

JockeSve said:
Near three months with the phone and I must say that I haven't noticed that this far...
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You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.

Menta91 said:
You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.
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I didn't either notice any latency. Maybe you can ask a friend with another Mi A1 and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel if there is any difference.
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Menta91 said:
You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.
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I don't know if You try to be smart but anyway...
This isn't my only phone at the moment so I can compare with few other phones.
Compared to almost any "western" phone" (whatever that means) within same price range the difference isn't visible for normal eye...
But as I'm not playing games or scroll up/down on settings page as my hobby so the "latency" Yoy are referring to doesn't bother me.
And I can assure You that if the "latency" or lag was common You would see it all over the forum...

JockeSve said:
I don't know if You try to be smart but anyway...
This isn't my only phone at the moment so I can compare with few other phones.
Compared to almost any "western" phone" (whatever that means) within same price range the difference isn't visible for normal eye...
But as I'm not playing games or scroll up/down on settings page as my hobby so the "latency" Yoy are referring to doesn't bother me.
And I can assure You that if the "latency" or lag was common You would see it all over the forum...
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I wasn't trying to be smart, I just thought you were using it "by itself" rather than comparing.
I'm not playing any games nor scrolling up and down all day long either, but I immediately noticed a much less responsive touch as soon as I started using the phone.
Maybe if it were true I'd see it all over the forum, but the same happened to me with my old oppo find 5: nobody mentioned anything about the touch screen latency, but it was mile behind the nexus 5, and even the nexus 4.
It's not too much annoying, but I admit it makes the phone feel slower and cheaper.

Menta91 said:
I wasn't trying to be smart, I just thought you were using it "by itself" rather than comparing.
I'm not playing any games nor scrolling up and down all day long either, but I immediately noticed a much less responsive touch as soon as I started using the phone.
Maybe if it were true I'd see it all over the forum, but the same happened to me with my old oppo find 5: nobody mentioned anything about the touch screen latency, but it was mile behind the nexus 5, and even the nexus 4.
It's not too much annoying, but I admit it makes the phone feel slower and cheaper.
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I agreed with you. And you're right about that issue.
I noticed that thing while playing some games and on some app it's barely happen. I noticed that on Fleksy keyboard ( not idea other keyboard work fine or not) I seen the same question asked by someone in this forum but he or she talk about the games.
I didn't seen that issue with my galaxy s2 i9100

Menta91 said:
I wasn't trying to be smart, I just thought you were using it "by itself" rather than comparing.
I'm not playing any games nor scrolling up and down all day long either, but I immediately noticed a much less responsive touch as soon as I started using the phone.
Maybe if it were true I'd see it all over the forum, but the same happened to me with my old oppo find 5: nobody mentioned anything about the touch screen latency, but it was mile behind the nexus 5, and even the nexus 4.
It's not too much annoying, but I admit it makes the phone feel slower and cheaper.
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Sir I can assure you that your unit must be defective or your eye is playing a trick on you(or you are very sensitive about the lag you are talking about.).
I am using both N4 and A1, and I frequently change those two for daily use. I didn't feel any difference in responsiveness.
Just to be sure, I compared those two side by side just now, and I couldn't tell any difference. Just to be more sure, I gave my friends those two and encouraged them to try out. They also couldn't tell any difference.

Not sure what do you exactly mean by touch 'latency' but I can confirm that the touch sensitivity on this phone is a little less than other phones. I used mostly samsung phones in the past, the S and Note series, and also the LG G4 and I can safely say that the touch on a 2014 phone 'Samsung S4' is better than Mi A1.
It feels like you have to push in just a little more effort than usual to register a touch, especially in the bottom right corner of the screen. All this fuss was significantly noticable in the first couple of weeks but now its been over a month with this phone so I'm getting used to it. Muscle memory has gotten a hang of just how much pressure you have to apply to get your touch registered.
I tried third party apps like touch calibrator and SGS booster but they haven't helped! Will wait for the feb patch, if it doesn't fix then will go for a root method to increase the touching sensitivity by manipulating build prop.

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Sir I can assure you that your unit must be defective or your eye is playing a trick on you(or you are very sensitive about the lag you are talking about.).
I am using both N4 and A1, and I frequently change those two for daily use. I didn't feel any difference in responsiveness.
Just to be sure, I compared those two side by side just now, and I couldn't tell any difference. Just to be more sure, I gave my friends those two and encouraged them to try out. They also couldn't tell any difference.
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I'd really hope so, but I'm afraid this is one way for manufacturers to keep down the costs, while keeping up the perceived quality, i.e, they save on digitizers and give you 4 GB of ram instead of 3.
About the N4 latency, I'm not sure because it's been quite a while since the last time I used it, but the N5 touchscreen response is way better than the M1 A1.
hamzam4lik said:
Not sure what do you exactly mean by touch 'latency' but I can confirm that the touch sensitivity on this phone is a little less than other phones. I used mostly samsung phones in the past, the S and Note series, and also the LG G4 and I can safely say that the touch on a 2014 phone 'Samsung S4' is better than Mi A1.
It feels like you have to push in just a little more effort than usual to register a touch, especially in the bottom right corner of the screen. All this fuss was significantly noticable in the first couple of weeks but now its been over a month with this phone so I'm getting used to it. Muscle memory has gotten a hang of just how much pressure you have to apply to get your touch registered.
I tried third party apps like touch calibrator and SGS booster but they haven't helped! Will wait for the feb patch, if it doesn't fix then will go for a root method to increase the touching sensitivity by manipulating build prop.
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I'm not talking about sensitivity.
I'm talking about the time that passes between your finger touching the screen, and the screen registering your touch.
I wish my english was a little bit better, so that I could explain it well.
This video should clear things up:
I'll edit the first post.

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I'd really hope so, but I'm afraid this is one way for manufacturers to keep down the costs, while keeping up the perceived quality, i.e, they save on digitizers and give you 4 GB of ram instead of 3.
About the N4 latency, I'm not sure because it's been quite a while since the last time I used it, but the N5 touchscreen response is way better than the M1 A1.
I'm not talking about sensitivity.
I'm talking about the time that passes between your finger touching the screen, and the screen registering your touch.
I wish my english was a little bit better, so that I could explain it well.
This video should clear things up:
I'll edit the first post.
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Oh ! Is there a way to check the latency on this phone?

hamzam4lik said:
Oh ! Is there a way to check the latency on this phone?
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I'm not aware of any.
It can be approximated with a camera that records at high enough FPS and calculating the delay knowing that every X FPS a second passes, like this:

Menta91 said:
You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.
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I have also Nexus 5 and haven't noticed any difference in scrolling in settings, apps (I don't play games). The only thing I noticed is that on certain screen protectors the screen is often less responsive.
About "western"-chinese phones, the build quality of N5 and especially for example Samsung Galaxy S8 is way worse then A1 or Redmi Note 3 Pro (speaking of my own experience).

NITRO_100 said:
I have also Nexus 5 and haven't noticed any difference in scrolling in settings, apps (I don't play games). The only thing I noticed is that on certain screen protectors the screen is often less responsive.
About "western"-chinese phones, the build quality of N5 and especially for example Samsung Galaxy S8 is way worse then A1 or Redmi Note 3 Pro (speaking of my own experience).
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You're right, the Mi A1 uses better materials (way better) than the N5.
My point is that Xiaomi is (probably) saving in other things.
A phone isn't just its case; in fact, a smartphone is a mostly a piece of electronics, and my judgement of it depends largely on the quality of its screen, its chipset, etc.
That said, I don't want to turn this into a war.
I'm not even sure that xiaomi is saving in its hardware (maybe it's just poor optimization).
In the meanwhile, I'd like to hear other opinions, and as I'm exchanging the xiaomi with the moto g5s plus, I'll report back to let you guys know how it feels once I receive it.

Well, I realized moto g5s plus doesn't support google camera hdr+, so that's a no-no for me.
I'm thinking about the moto x4, which is also A1, but I'm not sure if a slightly better camera, IP68, and a better touch are worth 100€ more.
I don't think so.
In the meanwhile I tried again the N4, and the P9 lite, and I can confirm that their touchscreen is definitely better than this Xiaomi.
Still, I'd like to know if anyone knows a way to improve, even a little bit, the responsiveness of the touch.

Menta91 said:
Well, I realized moto g5s plus doesn't support google camera hdr+, so that's a no-no for me.
I'm thinking about the moto x4, which is also A1, but I'm not sure if a slightly better camera, IP68, and a better touch are worth 100€ more.
I don't think so.
In the meanwhile I tried again the N4, and the P9 lite, and I can confirm that their touchscreen is definitely better than this Xiaomi.
Still, I'd like to know if anyone knows a way to improve, even a little bit, the responsiveness of the touch.
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Apsolutely not worth 100€ more. Btw still don't see any difference in touch screen compared to N5. Are you playing games and noticing this or ? What is your LCD panel manufacturer ?

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Apsolutely not worth 100€ more. Btw still don't see any difference in touch screen compared to N5. Are you playing games and noticing this or ? What is your LCD panel manufacturer ?
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No games.
It is apparent everywhere, home screens, settings, scrolling..
How can I check the LCD panel manufacturer?

We already had some thread discuss about this issue.
You can see the video on #18.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...cing-issue-t3688379/post74315174#post74315174
Untill now. I dont know this happen for all mia1 or just some device like you and me. First, I think this is a bug of software from xiaomi, but try some custome rom outside but still so laggy. The last hope is watting some kernel heavy mod, may be the problem will solve. If not, it definitedly hardware issue, and no way to fix that.

Menta91 said:
No games.
It is apparent everywhere, home screens, settings, scrolling..
How can I check the LCD panel manufacturer?
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Dial *#*#6484#*#* and go to version information.

fingerprint sensor garbage?

It's it just my device or is this fingerprint reader garbage. I tried all the tricks, setting the printer in dark rooms, light rooms, and no matter what, it almost always never unlocks the phone, I mean 1 out of 10 times if I'm lucky. So is it just my device and should I rma or are you guys experiencing the same. Thank God face unlock is beast tho

It's the phone..the fingerprint scanner sucks. Thank God face lock works well..and fast
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After the update it feels faster for some reason....idk what's going on with other people's devices

Not garbage but not perfect. Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet on latest and greatest.

Mine works fine. Maybe not as fast as a physical scanner but well enough. It was somewhat annoying before the update but it's much faster after the update. (TMobile variant)

This finger scanner sucks. I don't even care about it unlocking the phone. I care about all the other apps I use the fingerprint for

I just reset my finger print in a darker room and added both thumbs twice.
It's taking half the time to unlock the phone now.
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I mean, it doesn't even unlock my phone most of the time, I am not talking about speed, I'm saying it doesn't even work

I haven't had any problems beside fingerprint beeing slower that physical one. I use with my bank account and other fingerprint apps that actually works faster than when unlocking the phone. I have unlocked version.
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So it's not as fast, but it seems to work as consistently as my Pixel 2XL. I'm happy with it.

millerd79 said:
I just reset my finger print in a darker room and added both thumbs twice.
It's taking half the time to unlock the phone now.
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I read about the dark room thing somewhere else as well and just tried it. Seems to be working more accurately but we'll have to see if that lasts.
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jdiddy_ub said:
I read about the dark room thing somewhere else as well and just tried it. Seems to be working more accurately but we'll have to see if that lasts.
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I just don't see why they have concentrated on the fingerprint scanner to be honest. Make the faceunlock more secure.....for me that's the future

It's yours, no problem with mine

Be specific as to what model you have. My scanner has been good right out the box on 9.0.5
Works 9/10 of the time no lag.
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My scanner has easily been 9 outta 10 and barely slower than on my pixel 3. Works way better than I was expecting.
It's all in how you train your prints!!

Same good experience for me. Nearly 100% on first press.
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Mine is in no way as fast as the 3XL was, that one was instant, this one is not. It is however completely reliable so long as I actually put my finger over the print icon. I only miss it on the odd occasion and I will invariably notice that I was off the sweet spot when it happens. Mine is reasonably quick, I touch and give it just a bit of a delay, a hesitation, before I pull off and it goes through fine.
The reason they don't put further work into the face unlock is that it can be defeated with a picture and this cant be fixed unless they embed more tech to get full 3D facial ID. This isn't really the end game though, ultrasonic fingerprint scanning is where everyone is going for now. Even Apple is working on the tech (based on recent patent filings) because no matter how good face gets it cant work off the desk without 360 degree off axis camera coverage which while technically possible isn't going to work any better than ultrasonic because you still have to touch the phone to get it a wake up. Somewhere I read the rumor that Apple will use both to enable 2 factor bio for banking and other secure apps. Presumably either would be good enough to light up the phone? Anyhow it sounds like the ultrasonic is quite a lot better. It's easy to have the entire bottom or even all of the screen hot for authentication, it's faster, more accurate, doesn't require an icon on screen for exactly where you need to touch which removes the screen burn in problem with having the sensor on the AOD.
I think most of you remember when there was no "good" fingerprint scanner. Even the iphone was a cludge when it first hit. I'm thinking it was the S6 where I first had it and I wanted to throw that phone out the window. I'm feeling pretty good about them getting embedded scanners up to snuff and relatively soon. I'm thinking it was the 3T where I first had rock solid 100% working scanning and that wasn't long after the S6. Meanwhile we're leading the charge, pioneers, marching boldy into the future...

Umm for me it works like 95%... Maybe 1 time per day I have to retry...
Its awesome ?

I redid my prints for a 3 time and this time focused more on center then the top of my finger. Seems to be working alot better

99% accurate for me and more than fast enough to not notice a real delay.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the , all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I just got mine and all I can say is I love it more than every other phone I got. The camera is what sold me

bigogofthewest said:
I just got mine and all I can say is I love it more than every other phone I got. The camera is what sold me
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Are you talking about the Pixel 4 XL here???

bigogofthewest said:
I just got mine and all I can say is I love it more than every other phone I got. The camera is what sold me
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How can you have bought a phone that has not even been announced yet? It's not even schedule to come out until mid to late October. I think you might be confused.

bigogofthewest said:
I just got mine and all I can say is I love it more than every other phone I got. The camera is what sold me
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I liked the 3rd part more

Im really looking forward for this phone!

bigogofthewest said:
I just got mine and all I can say is I love it more than every other phone I got. The camera is what sold me
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Do you mean the Pixel 4 XL? But it's said that Google will launch its Pixel 4 series in October later this year.

here are my impressions of the phone - i only have it two days so opinion might change.
Pros
Camera fantastic as always - posted some samples in the other thread
Build quality feels like a premium device. love the way it feels - i still use the fabric case though
Display is amazing, smooth, colors vibrant, had no issues in the direct sunlight.
Very fast, it's the first phone where i didn't change animations to .5 - i kept it in default
its charging pretty fast
Speakers are definitely loud but the device doesn't vibrate like P3 used to
Assistant is for sure smarter and faster
Cons
its heavy and hard to handle at times - please note i use the fabric case so it added some weight to it
Motion sense to me is more of a gimmick and so far i found a bug, for example i am at the gym and i want to skip the song, it actually just replays the current song, hopefully this is an isolated issue
Battery life not so great i get around 6-7 hours of SOT but fb and instagram were draining my battery - i restricted them now
Notifications preview. So they are not present at least with the face unlock on. what i mean by it is this - the phone is next to me and i receive an email or a message. which means i can't double tap in order to see it, i have to pick up the device, unlock it then decide to act on it. I would prefer a double tap and being able to see a message, but that's just me.

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Notifications preview. So they are not present at least with the face unlock on. what i mean by it is this - the phone is next to me and i receive an email or a message. which means i can't double tap in order to see it, i have to pick up the device, unlock it then decide to act on it. I would prefer a double tap and being able to see a message, but that's just me.
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Isn't there an option to still see and interact with the lockscreen with face unlock on?
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catchawabbit said:
here are my impressions of the phone - i only have it two days so opinion might change.
Pros
Camera fantastic as always - posted some samples in the other thread
Build quality feels like a premium device. love the way it feels - i still use the fabric case though
Display is amazing, smooth, colors vibrant, had no issues in the direct sunlight.
Very fast, it's the first phone where i didn't change animations to .5 - i kept it in default
its charging pretty fast
Speakers are definitely loud but the device doesn't vibrate like P3 used to
Assistant is for sure smarter and faster
Cons
its heavy and hard to handle at times - please note i use the fabric case so it added some weight to it
Motion sense to me is more of a gimmick and so far i found a bug, for example i am at the gym and i want to skip the song, it actually just replays the current song, hopefully this is an isolated issue
Battery life not so great i get around 6-7 hours of SOT but fb and instagram were draining my battery - i restricted them now
Notifications preview. So they are not present at least with the face unlock on. what i mean by it is this - the phone is next to me and i receive an email or a message. which means i can't double tap in order to see it, i have to pick up the device, unlock it then decide to act on it. I would prefer a double tap and being able to see a message, but that's just me.
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6-7hrs SOT, over the span of a day, is quite acceptable to me. Thank you for this summary. ??
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EeZeEpEe said:
Isn't there an option to still see and interact with the lockscreen with face unlock on?
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I thought there was an option, using soli. If you brought your hand over the device, it would light the screen up and then when you took your hand away it would turn back off. Kind of like Ambient on demand

catchawabbit said:
here are my impressions of the phone - i only have it two days so opinion might change.
Pros
Camera fantastic as always - posted some samples in the other thread
Build quality feels like a premium device. love the way it feels - i still use the fabric case though
Display is amazing, smooth, colors vibrant, had no issues in the direct sunlight.
Very fast, it's the first phone where i didn't change animations to .5 - i kept it in default
its charging pretty fast
Speakers are definitely loud but the device doesn't vibrate like P3 used to
Assistant is for sure smarter and faster
Cons
its heavy and hard to handle at times - please note i use the fabric case so it added some weight to it
Motion sense to me is more of a gimmick and so far i found a bug, for example i am at the gym and i want to skip the song, it actually just replays the current song, hopefully this is an isolated issue
Battery life not so great i get around 6-7 hours of SOT but fb and instagram were draining my battery - i restricted them now
Notifications preview. So they are not present at least with the face unlock on. what i mean by it is this - the phone is next to me and i receive an email or a message. which means i can't double tap in order to see it, i have to pick up the device, unlock it then decide to act on it. I would prefer a double tap and being able to see a message, but that's just me.
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Great review. Mine just showed up today but I refuse to use it until the case gets here tomorrow. I actually love the weight. It feels like a quality piece of equipment. So far the only thing I've done with it is dropped it on my wireless charger to top off the battery. I haven't even turned it on yet, but I'm a bit concerned. It's been on my dock for about 5 hours and has only gone from 64% to 94%. I know they don't fast charge unless its a Pixel stand, but holy crap.

bricekin said:
Great review. Mine just showed up today but I refuse to use it until the case gets here tomorrow. I actually love the weight. It feels like a quality piece of equipment. So far the only thing I've done with it is dropped it on my wireless charger to top off the battery. I haven't even turned it on yet, but I'm a bit concerned. It's been on my dock for about 5 hours and has only gone from 64% to 94%. I know they don't fast charge unless its a Pixel stand, but holy crap.
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Thanks! I didn't use a wireless charger but it tops of pretty fast on a regular pixel charger..
When it comes to the weight. I do have a fabric case though this might be the problem. I refuse to use it without the case

catchawabbit said:
Thanks! I didn't use a wireless charger but it tops of pretty fast on a regular pixel charger..
When it comes to the weight. I do have a fabric case though this might be the problem. I refuse to use it without the case
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After finally getting it set up and a couple hours a play on it. I tossed it back on my cheap wireless charger and it said 45 minutes from 82% to full. I guess it charges faster when it's on than it does when it's off.

I must say.... This phone looks much better in person & the back feel is awesome. My very 1st thought was how the camera module looks smaller then anticipated in regards to the phone size and it's way nicer in person... time to set this thing up!!!

catchawabbit said:
here are my impressions of the phone - i only have it two days so opinion might change.
Motion sense to me is more of a gimmick and so far i found a bug, for example i am at the gym and i want to skip the song, it actually just replays the current song, hopefully this is an isolated issue
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I thought something was wrong with it too. It looks like they did it backwards... Swiping my hand to the right skips back to the beginning, twice to a prior song. Swipe to the left skips to the next song. No idea why they would have done that. We should definitely send feedback on it.
Also, I do agree it's pretty gimmicky, however, I still think it's kind of cool. I haven't figured out the notifications piece, but if it works like they say, it will be great considering the face unlock thing you mentioned. That annoys me too.
I wonder what all applications for this Google had in mind when they made this? It'd be cool to know what they have in store for it. Putting all that stuff in the forehead just for swiping songs and whatever seems pretty lame to me.

gettinwicked said:
I thought something was wrong with it too. It looks like they did it backwards... Swiping my hand to the right skips back to the beginning, twice to a prior song. Swipe to the left skips to the next song. No idea why they would have done that. We should definitely send feedback on it.
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It's because it mimicks swiping on the phone. It's as if you're swiping an album cover on the right (next track) over to the screen to play. That's how I see it at least. No different than how you scroll down by swiping up. Isn't there a setting to flip the gestures though?
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EeZeEpEe said:
It's because it mimicks swiping on the phone. It's as if you're swiping an album cover on the right (next track) over to the screen to play. That's how I see it at least. No different than how you scroll down by swiping up. Isn't there a setting to flip the gestures though?
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I checked and there is! I definitely missed that in settings. Thanks!

One thing is for sure. This phone is getting a lot of hate from the reviews.. I really don't understand why.
Yes it doesn't have a wide angle camera (I'll post a pic bellow). For me it's wide enough.
Battery life is not stellar but it's manageable. I just top it off in a middle of the day and it's good to go

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One thing is for sure. This phone is getting a lot of hate from the reviews.. I really don't understand why.
Yes it doesn't have a wide angle camera (I'll post a pic bellow). For me it's wide enough.
Battery life is not stellar but it's manageable. I just top it off in a middle of the day and it's good to go
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Yeah those reviews are dumb. But they get paid to be critical. Every phone has it's flaw. I could care less for a wide angle lens. That's the only thing someone can complain about because aside from that this is top notch.

Love mine. This charger works pretty fast and it's cheap. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RRV24J7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1