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i have oneplus 3t and the camera is amazing but i want to upgrade so what you recommend me to go with ?
All have their strengths.... The OnePlus 3 as well.
Try not to get dazzled by specs and marketing hype... Think of it more of as there some area they you would like to improve over the op3 camera
Samsung camera may be better if you want to just point and shoot in full auto all the time.
Most of us won't be utilizing our phone cameras to it's full potential all the time.
I moved from a OP3 to a Mate 9 (after deciding to pass on the S7) and I'm very happy with my choice
You should have a look at the pocketnow "real camera reviews" on YouTube if you're not aware of them already
For the OP3
https://youtu.be/bQFy7qzkNro
Check the P10 and mate 9 there as well
I don't think any reviewers have gotten around to doing in depth reviews for the s8 as of yet
so you recomende transfed to mate ? from op3t bacause u use it and know if there defrence
I have Huawei P20 Pro now, and OP 6t or 6 is interesting for me I want to find out the Oxygen OS.
But I'll change my phone in fall, to a Pixel 4/4 XL, OP 7T or Note 10.
Camera, software, battery life and teh speakers which is important for me.
Camera is great on p20 pro but Pixel is better in this category, front facing camera is so bad at p20 pro and I like the pixel's more, and OP has ported Gcam. How good is that?
Battery life on this phone is great, and probably the 6T is as good as it, because OP always has good battery life and the 6/6T runs Android Pie which is also better for battery.
Software where is the P20 Pro is bleeding. Emui is the worst I've ever used. I did not use stock android or Oxygen OS. I just saw them on my frieand's rooted phone. I I love the smoothness and the cleanness of the stock android, and the customizations of Oxygen OS. That's why I'm interested in Pixel 4/4xl or OP devices.
Speakers is not too much important but good to have stereo speakers. What is a sad point at OP but Google Pixels has good speakers.
Display is not the best on P20 pro. I used Galaxy Note 8 before and Samsung is the king of the screens. It was sharper, it had better colors. But the screen is just a good point, not necessarily to be better than the Samsung's Amoled display.
I want to try out the OP maybe I'll not like it that much as I expect, but I might help then to chose between Pixel 4/4XL and OP 7T.
So my question is.
Should I chane my P20 pro for this couple of months to a OP 6 or 6t?
Or just wait for Pixel 4/4xl or OP 7t?
Thank you for helping me!
Camera is average, Speaker is average, Battery life is amazing, Software can be good latest patch is a bit meh but older builds are great.
It comes down to how much money you will lose from the P20 and then on the 6T if that's an issue for you. If money is no problem then go for it :laugh:
Camera is average, but what about ported GCam? Does it help a lot or just a bit better??
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Camera is average, but what about ported GCam? Does it help a lot or just a bit better??
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Just a bit better... Camera sensors are budget Sony sensors.. So yeah nothing amazing going on here in the camera department if you require it at top of your list look elsewhere.
I came from P20 Pro as well. Go for it. You will not regret it.
Camera is really fine. The gcam mod makes it even better, especially portrait shots. You won't miss the P20 camera after a few days.
There is a stereo speaker mod for oneplus devices so you will not really miss that as well.
Battery is about the same usually. I'm getting even better battery life with the 6T with custom kernel.
Oxygen OS is far better than EMUI so you're gonna love it.
Thank you!
I think I give it a try. I'm interested in OP so it will be good for experience. If I like it and the Pixel will have some issues, I might stay with 6T for a longer time.
I would definitely wait for the OnePlus 7. The 6 and 6T are good options but the cameras not great,and no dual speakers, battery life is great on the 6T,I had the 6 also and honestly prefer the 6 over the 6T because its the fingerprint is better and the software is better optimized on the 6.
The only main advantage you would get from switching to OnePlus from where you are now would be the software.It is much cleaned and much faster than anything else with regular updates especially on the open betas.
If you must,go with the 6T if you don't mind ghe slower in screen fingerprint,but has bigger battery.
I would just wait for the 7 at this stage
Actually I don't want to pay for 7, I will be more expensive than the P20 pro, and my main plan is buy a Pixel 4 or 4 XL, so I'll go for 6T which is near same price with P20 pro, and save money for later to the pixel's.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Huawei P30 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Huawei P30 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Just got mine today ( moving from P20 Pro) and I absolutely love it. The camera is brilliant, selfies are much improved and the video quality is night and day compared to p20 pro. I have loads of apps installed and everything works as it should with buttery smooth performance. Prior to getting the phone I was slightly concerned about the oscillating display technology instead of a speaker but it works just fine. The only downgrade from p20 pro imo is the speaker ( I preferred the stereo setup) and the lack of notification LED. I am still getting used to the fingerprint scanner as well but it does seem to be slightly slower as well.
Had to get one because I couldn't resist the camera. I was a bit dubious because a few of the reviews had mentioned problems getting Nova Launcher to work. So far I've had no issues whatsoever. The camera is amazing, overall speed is quicker than my S10+ and the fingerprint scanner is faster and more reliable too. Only negative for me is the lack of decent stereo speakers but it's not a deal breaker considering all the positives. Everyone seems to be making a big deal of the difference in screen resolution between this and the S10 but considering the default resolution on the S10 is identical I think most people wouldn't even realise. I'm enjoying this phone much more.
LOVE IT!
i feel cool.
The best phone on the market easily! Camera awesome, quality zoom photos which I thought I would never use as much as I do.. Battery life beyond every expectations, getting 11-13h on screen time, and the best thing is when recharging, it takes just 55mins... Speed of opening apps and everything else is just fascinating.. It would have been perfect if they put 500+ppi screen and stereo speakers, but those are not as important for me as the things I have mentioned above.. Overall 9,7/10
For those of you who have now had the device a while are you happy, would you purchase it again?
I think it's a great device.. Only wish I could customise it my liking
Overall, not as well finished and well thought and robust as samsung premium (had S8 before), especially with everything software, in dozens of small things here and there. That being said, still overall awesome and really well done, especially the photo hardware/sensors.
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For those of you who have now had the device a while are you happy, would you purchase it again?
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Definitely, in a heartbeat.
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Definitely, in a heartbeat.
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I since went out and bought one, have had a bit more than 3 weeks. It's a solid device , I am enjoying it. Everything works pretty decent. I have the 6/128 version. Love the battery life, have Nova Launcher prime installed , running dark theme. Camera is great, I love the zoom useful for me big time. May still buy the Mi 9T Pro or Zenfone 6 when it releases but for now happy
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I since went out and bought one, have had a bit more than 3 weeks. It's a solid device , I am enjoying it. Everything works pretty decent. I have the 6/128 version. Love the battery life, have Nova Launcher prime installed , running dark theme. Camera is great, I love the zoom useful for me big time. May still buy the Mi 9T Pro or Zenfone 6 when it releases but for now happy
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A great tip for the camera, especially when zooming, always use HDR found in the modes menu. You'll get much much sharper results.
I regret buying the P30 pro and will be selling it shortly..
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I regret buying the P30 pro and will be selling it shortly..
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How come?
Firstly I bought it for the camera and it is not as good as my LG v30 with gcam mod and secondly it can't be rooted..
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Firstly I bought it for the camera and it is not as good as my LG v30 with gcam mod and secondly it can't be rooted..
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Did you update it? Updates did it a great favor.
Few weeks ago, I was too close to trading it for a Pixel 3 XL, but after trying my friend's Pixel, I decided to keep it.
As for rooting, that doesn't bother me, but if it's essential for you, then I hear you. Any idea what you want to trade it for?
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Did you update it? Updates did it a great favor.
Few weeks ago, I was too close to trading it for a Pixel 3 XL, but after trying my friend's Pixel, I decided to keep it.
As for rooting, that doesn't bother me, but if it's essential for you, then I hear you. Any idea what you want to trade it for?
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It is on the latest firmware. I think Samsung s10. I will install the gcam app and hopefully root it also..
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It is on the latest firmware. I think Samsung s10. I will install the gcam app and hopefully root it also..
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Yeah, if it's the Snapdragon version, then definitely go with it. I had the exynos S10 Plus and the camera was trash, and there's no reliable Gcam port for it. My wife is still stuck with her S10, but she doesn't care that much about the camera, so it's all good.
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Yeah, if it's the Snapdragon version, then definitely go with it. I had the exynos S10 Plus and the camera was trash, and there's no reliable Gcam port for it. My wife is still stuck with her S10, but she doesn't care that much about the camera, so it's all good.
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To be honest I've not really spent much time looking around as had a bit of a gutfull
Of phones... I did also like my LG v30. Great camera and easily replaced the rear glass and battery. I may go that route also. It would be great if the P30 Pro bootloader is again unlockable as then maybe camera could be worked on to improve it. I will have a think as to my next move lol
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To be honest I've not really spent much time looking around as had a bit of a gutfull
Of phones... I did also like my LG v30. Great camera and easily replaced the rear glass and battery. I may go that route also. It would be great if the P30 Pro bootloader is again unlockable as then maybe camera could be worked on to improve it. I will have a think as to my next move lol
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I was also looking at the OnePlus 7 Pro, but none of the phones I looked at came close to the versatility and power of the P30 Pro. I take lots of indoor pictures of my kids, and indoors and in low light conditions, the capability of this phone shines.
If I was you, I would wait few months, not only better flagships are coming, but the prices of current flagships will drop as well.
Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
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Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
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The Huawei P30 pro has a great camera and a solid battery but a 1080p display and the software experience isn't that great imo.
The Note 9 is an amazing all around phone that I would consider if you're looking for a bargain but the Note 10 will be available in less than a month.
The S10 plus has everything, the camera, the display the software experience the battery. You just can't go wrong with this phone.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
If I were you , I'll just see and wait for the note 10 to see what it offers better
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I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
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I agree. The S10+ has a lot of great things about it but the OP specifically listed the camera as being one of his top priorities. Samsung has fallen behind its competitors in that area. If the OP had a Mate 20 he might be disappointed with the Galaxy camera.
The Galaxy S10+ also charges much less quickly than Huawei and Xiaomi phones (the speed difference is huge with wireless charging) which is the other obvious area where Samsung has fallen behind their competitors.
I think Samsung's huge market share made them complacent which is why they haven't kept pace with innovation--the Galaxy phones have only been offering incremental upgrades from year to year for a while now.
Supposedly the S11 Galaxy line is finally going to change that but we have a while to wait on those.
S10+ exynos for the win
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
edit: @ jhs38 like usual, stock camera doesn't have any options for improving picture quality in Auto mode. Just picture format, light conditions and HDR on/off
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I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
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I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
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Last paragraph spot on.
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It was announced today that the Note 10 might feature an AI assisted camera which supports what I was saying earlier about the Samsung camera lagging behind its competitors--both Huawei and Xiaomi added that functionality to the cameras in their flagship phones 2 years ago.
But since Samsung doesn't have to compete against Huawei or Xiaomi in the United States a lot of people here will think Samsung is being innovative.
So since the OnePlus 9 pro came out I couldn't but notice that the main/selfie camera is the same as our "beloved" 8 pro but if I understood correctly that hasselblad tweaked the 9 pro's camera app. Or was it just the glass?
Anywho is there any difference between the OnePlus 9 pro's camera app and our 8 pro?
I personally do not know. However, I do not believe that they will ever make anything good again. Who the heck needs or wants a frant facing camera, anyway? I mean are we 13-16 year old girls trying to get as many STD's as we can before we hit the wall?
Well personally I love a good front facing camera especially with a wide angle one with a good aperture but that will never happen....
After seeing what op9p has to offer I think OnePlus has lost its touch and my experience with the op8p isn't helping either..
Is anyone working on a port of the APK?
I don't think the hardware is anything to do with the company they collaborated with, so if it's software then it could be portable?
Maybe