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FS: SIM unlocked HTC Touch Dual in MINT condition, US$505

I have a new HTC Touch Dual (16-key layout) that has seen only a few hours of minor usage. You can check out pics of the device in my first impressions and second impressions .
The Touch Dual is in 9.9/10 condition with the very decent HTC screen protector mounted on it since the first minute of trying it out. The device is rock solid and is a wonderful WM 6 Professional device, but I am finding that I just do not use it enough and hate to see such a nice device sitting around collecting dust. 3G works in Europe and elsewhere, but not in the U.S. due to the frequency support. I am looking to sell the Touch Dual for US$505 that includes free shipping to the U.S. and Canada. Email me for other shipping costs.
You can check out some of my feedback here or at ebay with my username of yosemsam. I accept PayPal and will ship anywhere in the world for just the actual shipping cost.
PM or email me (palmsoloATgmailDOTcom) to discuss options, shipping, or for any questions.

Would you like to trade for a HTC Kaiser?

Hmm, that is an enticing offer since I could get 3G with AT&T in the U.S. on the Kaiser. I REALLY love the Dual form factor and it just feels wonderful in your hand. Can I give my ad a couple of days to see if anyone is interested in buying it before we get into details on a trade?
Feel free to email me at palmsoloATgmailDOTcom to discuss too. Thanks and Happy New Year.

palmsolo said:
Hmm, that is an enticing offer since I could get 3G with AT&T in the U.S. on the Kaiser. I REALLY love the Dual form factor and it just feels wonderful in your hand. Can I give my ad a couple of days to see if anyone is interested in buying it before we get into details on a trade?
Feel free to email me at palmsoloATgmailDOTcom to discuss too. Thanks and Happy New Year.
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u could do the same with the dual. has same frequences. maybe donate ur device to the niki project. i bet they are willing to give u the dough once they have it.

palmsolo said:
Hmm, that is an enticing offer since I could get 3G with AT&T in the U.S. on the Kaiser. I REALLY love the Dual form factor and it just feels wonderful in your hand. Can I give my ad a couple of days to see if anyone is interested in buying it before we get into details on a trade?
Feel free to email me at palmsoloATgmailDOTcom to discuss too. Thanks and Happy New Year.
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Sure I can wait, or you can donate it, just send me an PM.

Anyone looking to buy a WING?

I've had my wing for a little less than 2 months. I found an awesome deal on an IPHONE I can't pass up. It looks brand new. Always keep it on my hip in the leather pouch. I paid almost 350 for it back in Feb. I'm just looking to get what I need for the iphone which is 275. I have a friend who can ship stuff for me cheap, so that price will include shipping. I am listing it on EBAY tonight as well, but I thought I would give someone here (who actually appreciates this phone) a chance on a great deal. I am listing it on ebay for 300. That seems to be the going rate. Since so many people here helped me after I got this phone, I figured it would be a nice gesture to help someone else here out and give them a great deal.
I do have paypal or I will accept a certified cashiers check.
PM me or email me at [email protected] with any questions.
Thanks!
Brian

Oh forgot to mention.... It has Ttrans OpenTouch 4.0 on it. I will upload pics tonight when I get a chance

I hope you read the blogs on the Iphone before you purchase the phone. In my opinion you should keep the wing & add the the program thats almost the same. there are alot of issues on the iphone

taz is right, iPhone is real buggy at the moment.
I suggest you keep the Wing and buy an iPhone seperatly. If the iPhone is really good, it'll pay back itselfs

Nexus S = Rip off?

Hey guys, ordered this in the UK but I'm hearing so many bad things about it.
No Gorilla glass
GPS problems
Feels cheap
Plastic
Crap camera
.....and so on!
£549 quid this cost me and feels like with all the comments it's only worth half that.
To those who own the handset, what's the build quality like and is it simply a good handset to justify the price?
Thanks

£549 is definitely far too much in my option. Simply because it's nearly £150 more than it's being sold for in the US.
My N1 set me back £412 after shipping and taxes.

Rusty! said:
£549 is definitely far too much in my option. Simply because it's nearly £150 more than it's being sold for in the US.
My N1 set me back £412 after shipping and taxes.
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Yeah I'm trying to stop myself from cancelling the phone and just picking up a Desire HD, seems like I get more for less money if you get me.

recklesslife85 said:
Hey guys, ordered this in the UK but I'm hearing so many bad things about it.
No Gorilla glass
GPS problems
Feels cheap
Plastic
Crap camera
.....and so on!
£549 quid this cost me and feels like with all the comments it's only worth half that.
To those who own the handset, what's the build quality like and is it simply a good handset to justify the price?
Thanks
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I can really understand your point, but this is google's phone, it will be updated constantly and all problems rectified quickly, i think it was rushed out for christmas..... HTC phones or Samsung phones are also not without their problems, and i think we are looking at the negatives too much without enjoying the many positives.
549 IS a rip off, thats understood... But we have to understand that the 330 pounds plus VAT & Shipping from the US will add to the price. There is no doubt that this phone is the best Android phone to date, we just need to give Google time to iron out the errors.
GPS is working fine with 98 percent of devices, which sort of falls into line with what we see with other devices.
When you get your phone, enjoy your purchase, and then wait for the next nexus, which will probably be next xmas to upgrade again. I have told myself now that nexus phones are the only way to have a good google experience. HTC phones have major build quality and hardware flaws, and coupled with there inability to even put a decent screen on their flagship device should be seen as showing exactly what they think of their customers. LCD on the Desire HD = Joke. It looks like someone threw domestos bleach over the screen from an off straight viewing angle, lol
Enjoy your device man... Because there is nothing better atm Well at least untill the next Nexus drops;P
JD

I got mine in US. It is no Rip Off this is by far the best Android far i have used and i just came from a NexuS One. It is a good phone Im enjopying every moment of it. People just want too much. Even if it had all the stuff u mentioned people would STILL cry. You would'nt understand until you have it in your hands on it.

The price in the US is $529 which is £340.78. How much is the VAT, 17.5%?
The correct price in the UK should be £400.42.

shrivelfig said:
The price in the US is $529 which is £340.78. How much is the VAT, 17.5%?
The correct price in the UK should be £400.42.
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Add around 50 quid for each phone to ship and CPW's large cut,
the phone's fair price should be 499.99
But alas, we do not live in a fair world.
JD

Thanks for all the messages guys.
The price is rather shocking here in the UK 'like everything' so I'm kind of used to that. Sounds very cheaply built which I find very, very worrying for the price.

JupiterDroid said:
I can really understand your point, but this is google's phone, it will be updated constantly and all problems rectified quickly, i think it was rushed out for christmas..... HTC phones or Samsung phones are also not without their problems, and i think we are looking at the negatives too much without enjoying the many positives.
549 IS a rip off, thats understood... But we have to understand that the 330 pounds plus VAT & Shipping from the US will add to the price. There is no doubt that this phone is the best Android phone to date, we just need to give Google time to iron out the errors.
GPS is working fine with 98 percent of devices, which sort of falls into line with what we see with other devices.
When you get your phone, enjoy your purchase, and then wait for the next nexus, which will probably be next xmas to upgrade again. I have told myself now that nexus phones are the only way to have a good google experience. HTC phones have major build quality and hardware flaws, and coupled with there inability to even put a decent screen on their flagship device should be seen as showing exactly what they think of their customers. LCD on the Desire HD = Joke. It looks like someone threw domestos bleach over the screen from an off straight viewing angle, lol
Enjoy your device man... Because there is nothing better atm Well at least untill the next Nexus drops;P
JD
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Well said...I also decided to get Nexus phones from now on too....

recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for all the messages guys.
The price is rather shocking here in the UK 'like everything' so I'm kind of used to that. Sounds very cheaply built which I find very, very worrying for the price.
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It does feel that way. But the perfomance is just out this world. It actually deosnt feel THAT cheap though

Reasons not to get the Desire HD
May not get Honeycomb officially (will defo get 2.3)
Internal and external speaker problems, and very quiet. Internal speaker has high static jolts when calling over 2g. This is also the same for the Desire Z.
Heavy phone over a large area, 160g.
Scratch the metal back and your phone devalues without possible rectification.
Terrible screen, big but blacks are very bleached and also you have a white hue over the phone when viewing from an off straight angle.
Horrible battery cover, gap in the back part + easily bends and warped....
JD

Smilez_c said:
It does feel that way. But the perfomance is just out this world. It actually deosnt feel THAT cheap though
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Cool, been having a dodgy hour or two thinking about the phone cause I'm snowed in off work. Hahaha
I'll wait and judge when it's in my hands but I appreciate all the good comments guys.

The Super AMOLED screen will awe and amaze you. Fricking gorgeous.
I've also got an iPhone 4, Nexus One, and even a Galaxy S i9000. The Galaxy S and Nexus S are by far my favorite screens. I've also compared them to Desire HD, Droid X and a few others. The MyTouch 4G is the only thing that comes close in my opinion, followed right behind by the iPhone 4, but the iPhone's 3.5" is just too small.
Also, this phone is fast! Screw benchmarks, they're not real-world "feel" of the phone. Out of the box, this NS is as fast as my "lag-fixed" modded overclocked Galaxy S, which has posted Quadrant scores of 2200+.

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Add around 50 quid for each phone to ship and CPW's large cut
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Shipping? From where? It's not made in the US. Shipping from Asia to the UK should be the same as shipping from Asia to the US.
CPW is the UK version of Best Buy. The $529 is including BB's cut, the £400 should be including CPW's cut.
The correct price should be £400. Personally I'd be willing to pay £450, or even £500 if I got it now, before the 20th.

distortedloop said:
The Super AMOLED screen will awe and amaze you. Fricking gorgeous.
I've also got an iPhone 4, Nexus One, and even a Galaxy S i9000. The Galaxy S and Nexus S are by far my favorite screens. I've also compared them to Desire HD, Droid X and a few others. The MyTouch 4G is the only thing that comes close in my opinion, followed right behind by the iPhone 4, but the iPhone's 3.5" is just too small.
Also, this phone is fast! Screw benchmarks, they're not real-world "feel" of the phone. Out of the box, this NS is as fast as my "lag-fixed" modded overclocked Galaxy S, which has posted Quadrant scores of 2200+.
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Now this is a guy to listen to lollol
Experience aplenty
Im sure you will love your device, and the build quality does not look cheap at all to me?
The lightweight feel is how a phone should be, trust me, i have had a 180g desire z for the past two months and my hand really knows about it
JD

shrivelfig said:
Shipping? From where? It's not made in the US. Shipping from Asia to the UK should be the same as shipping from Asia to the US.
CPW is the UK version of Best Buy. The $529 is including BB's cut, the £400 should be including CPW's cut.
The correct price should be £400. Personally I'd be willing to pay £450, or even £500 if I got it now, before the 20th.
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Samsung has big factory's in the USA as well, and if its made in South Korea i bet 1000000's that the USA have big deals with them for tax free importing. I still maintain that 499 pounds is a fair price...
I would be buying mine from my pal ogdobber in the usa but i need to make a purchase in the uk and have an imei number on the reciept to fulfil my requirements for my free insurance with my bank.
Love this phone, and love google
JD

My NS is out for delivery now and I can't wait. I had to return the HD7 after 13 days becuase I could not stand the screen and talk about build quality, the battery cover didn't even line up so you could see the SIM card through the giant gap in the back.

recklesslife85 said:
Cool, been having a dodgy hour or two thinking about the phone cause I'm snowed in off work. Hahaha
I'll wait and judge when it's in my hands but I appreciate all the good comments guys.
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@Reckless
Spoke to CPW customer services at 14:00
Stock expected Sunday for Monday shipping
Should be with you Tuesday at the earliest... You better start shovelling that snow dude
JD

DooLocsta said:
My NS is out for delivery now and I can't wait. I had to return the HD7 after 13 days becuase I could not stand the screen and talk about build quality, the battery cover didn't even line up so you could see the SIM card through the giant gap in the back.
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Yep it was the same with the HD, gonna add that to the list of defect with the phone
Where do you live pal? Your in the USA i presume?
JD

If you're unsure, and own an N1, wait till it gets it's 2.3 OTA update, then go and compare it like for like with an NS in your local CPW.
I plan on doing that even though I'm pretty certain I don't want to get an NS heh

[Q] How to (back)order an Adam?

Tablets are appearing left, right, and center these days and I think I have decided that I would like to support the innovative little guy. However, I have sent several emails over the course of the last month inquiring how someone could place an order.
I am in the US (if that matters) and was wondering if anyone had successfully ordered or put their names on a waiting list recently (and if so how?), and how long it takes from start to stop to get your adam.
Thanks!

RE: pre-order windows? existance is futile?
I've been wondering the same thing. Every time I talk myself into grabbing one I can't seem to locate any way of pre-ordering.
Aside from the few that are marked up/snarked up on *bay... I too would rather support the little guy. Though I fear that once I get around to talking myself into picking up a tablet again, an iPad2 will head my way.

I believe Notion Ink has finished taking orders for their 2nd pre-order.
http://store.notionink.com/subscribe.php
This link gets you on their list of people who have interest in purchasing one. If they have any left to sell they will contact you.
The first batch of orders in Dec were across the map as far as time from ordering to delivery (Some got theres in Jan, others not till recently)
I don't believe anyone in this second batch has gotten delivery yet. I ordered mine on Feb 9th and the estimated shipping date is March 3rd-10th (but who knows if that will hold true).
There is a reason why they are calling these "Pre-Orders", I think it is taking them some time to produce them which is certainly a risk us consumers are taking. But have faith if you think this device suits you the best.

iPad 2 really doesn't look like it offers much more then the iPad 1
Yes it is thinner/lighter, yes it has two cameras, and yes it now has a dual core processor....but the main reason I gravitate towards the Adam is the fact is offers most of that along with more consumer friendly inputs/outputs, a physical design that will be easier to hold, and of course Honeycomb which offers so much more for me over the Apple OS 4.3

iPad 2
I agree the only thing I like about the iPad 2 is the cover, which if I am honest really is brilliant in its simplicity, utility, and awesomeness. Other than that...
Still, I am not sure which device best fits my needs (I just know I want to support small innovators) My problem is that I am a grad student who is trying to go paperless. I try and read my articles, grade my papers and read my news on a monitor, and it might be nice to have something that I could hold rather than put on my lap.
Also pretty sure that 7 inches is just too small (maybe 10 is too big) who knows...I wish there were more brick and mortar stores where I could try them out.

The Xoom is available to try out at best buy. So you could at least get an idea of what 10inch's is like as well as Honeycomb vs. the Apple OS.
The LG Optimus Pad and supposedly a new Galaxy Tab are coming out with 8.9inch screens.
If you are focusing on the Adam for its Pixel Qi screen for reading I would research more reviews on how it does indoors vs. outdoors. I opted to order the LCD version only since I don't plan on using it as an e-reader or for outdoor purposes. I mainly want it to replace my personal laptop that i lug around whenever I travel just to check email/surf the web/ and watch movies.

I ordered mine feb 5 and received it yesterday if it helps any.
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kgbrown247 said:
I ordered mine feb 5 and received it yesterday if it helps any.
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I consider that good news for 9th orders. Means that the promised 3rd March shipping date is still realistic.
Edit: Actually, bad news. Means I'll have to start checking the pre-order site multiple times a day now out of sheer compulsive curiousity.
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My Feb 9th order has shipped

I realize that Notion is a small company, but how can they think they will stay in business when people can't figure out how to order or have to wait a ton?
I like the idea of the Adam, but not the idea of waiting to pre-order then waiting a month or more for my unit.
So is it worth the wait?

Depends on what your needs/wants are in a tablet.
I came to the decision of handing my money over to Notion Ink instead of any other company for the following reasons:
- 2 x Full USB 2.0 Ports
- Tegra 2
- 6 Physical Buttons (4 on the face, Back button and Power button on the side)
- Full HDMI Out
- Ergonomical Design
- Promise of Honeycomb
- $425 price tag

I too am wondering if this tablet is worth the wait. I ordered mine Feb 14 and I am tired of waiting. My original estimated ship date was now pushed back to 3/3-3/10. This is insane. I have no idea how these guys intend to run a successful company doing business like this. This is absolutely unacceptable. If this estimated ship date is pushed back one more time I am going to cancel my order. And if they give me any sh*t going that route I'll simply refute the charges and let my AMEX deal with this B.S.
Of course, I hope I don't have to go that route and I hope I will receive an email shortly telling me my Adam has shipped. I really want this device but refuse to wait around like a scorned lover begging for attention. I'm paying good money. It's not like I won this thing in a contest and am waiting on them to ship one once they have extras. This is INSANE!!!

I bought the Adam because of the reasons I posted above. No other company is putting a tablet out that offers the same functionality.
With that said....
There is a BIG reason why they are calling this a "PRE-ORDER". They are a small company, they did not have the money and means to start mass producing these. But from what we read from Rohan they are growing quickly and starting to strategically plan for a larger roll out that also includes better support.
Adam is their first product, they are dedicating resources towards designing the next one. This kind of innovation is a beautiful thing. I don't understand how people "expect" this ordering experience to be similar to that of purchasing an Apple or Motorola product.

What are the price-points of the various options?
My friend and I both just recently signed up for pre-orders but who knows when the next batch will roll out....just trying to plan ahead!
Thanks.

Of course I wouldn't expect it to be like buying an Apple or Moto product. The surprising part is their website is a little too filled with mystery. The tech audience in general is not a patient bunch and signing up for unknown pre order dates and long waits wont fly with everyone. For their own sake I hope they can step up production a bit. I do believe their pricing is very good from what I could find but having to google them vs being front and center on their site is kinda lame.
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anyone know when is this tablet going to be release so i can order it and not have to wait for an unknown delivery date? kinda messed up how they are doing this with the preorders. i cant find a release date anywhere...

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I believe Notion Ink has finished taking orders for their 2nd pre-order.
http://store.notionink.com/subscribe.php
This link gets you on their list of people who have interest in purchasing one. If they have any left to sell they will contact you.
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Thank you I been looking all over for this

Ordering Nexus 4 on Wednesday (feq questions)

Well I'll start off with saying how psyched I am about getting this phone regardless of what's coming out so far this year.
Believe it or not I've been using a badly cracked screen Xperia Play for 8 months and just haven't bothered with the mobile world since then.
I'm currently living in the UK and I have a few questions in regards to the Nexus 4 and general concerns.
How easy is it exactly to crack the screens front/back?
What case would you recommend for some one who is accident prone (nothing to bulky)?
How long did it take for UK customers to receive theirs after purchase? I'm getting the 16gb model and I went to checkout to check and they're telling me 1-2 business days?
Where can I get good wallpapers for it? I normally use Zedge but I had a nosey at their Nexus 4 walls and there isn't that many, I can just make my own or rescale other HD images but meh, I like looking for things I don't have.
In the UK do they need the micro sims? I ordered one anyway just incase.
Are there any apps that really stand out on the Nexus 4 for you?
Is it possible to root without boot loader unlocking it? Does it not come boot loader unlocked if ordered from the Google Play store?
Also is there any other cheaper method to have it display on A TV other than the slimport output http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slimport-HDMI-adapter-Connect-projector/dp/B009UZBLSG#lbhuc_854718
Are there any good speaker docks for nexus 4?

tekken179 said:
Well I'll start off with saying how psyched I am about getting this phone regardless of what's coming out so far this year.
How long did it take for UK customers to receive theirs after purchase? I'm getting the 16gb model and I went to checkout to check and they're telling me 1-2 business days?
In the UK do they need the micro sims? I ordered one anyway just incase.
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Hi. Mine came after 2 days (I ordered it at 11pm Saturday and it came in early Tuesday morning). I'm currently living in UK too. I had to order micro sim from O2.

Cheers that's good to hear lmao I hate waiting, too impatient.

I should have gotten my phone in 2 days as well but some f*** ups from TNT extended it to 4 days. It appears that i was unlucky though as nobody else reported issues with the courier service. It might only be my local depot. Anyways, get a TPU case from ebay. It should provide it with enough protection for lightish drops. I got a really nice, clear one with an s pattern on the back from ebay for 2 quid. I'm also still using the original film on the front and back. They're doing their job alright
Regarding the micro sim... Just take your sim card to any phone corner shop and they will cut it to the right size for you. They offered to do it for free in my case. Left them 50 pence tip

I just cut my sim manually with a pair of scissors
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Ha I didn't even know that worked!, Well my father is good at all that stuff and has much steadier hands and eyes than me, I'll have to give him a shout.

tekken179 said:
Well I'll start off with saying how psyched I am about getting this phone regardless of what's coming out so far this year.
Believe it or not I've been using a badly cracked screen Xperia Play for 8 months and just haven't bothered with the mobile world since then.
I'm currently living in the UK and I have a few questions in regards to the Nexus 4 and general concerns.
How easy is it exactly to crack the screens front/back?
What case would you recommend for some one who is accident prone (nothing to bulky)?
How long did it take for UK customers to receive theirs after purchase? I'm getting the 16gb model and I went to checkout to check and they're telling me 1-2 business days?
Where can I get good wallpapers for it? I normally use Zedge but I had a nosey at their Nexus 4 walls and there isn't that many, I can just make my own or rescale other HD images but meh, I like looking for things I don't have.
In the UK do they need the micro sims? I ordered one anyway just incase.
Are there any apps that really stand out on the Nexus 4 for you?
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My Nexus 4 arrives tomorrow !!! I'm also coming from a broken Xperia Play, my screen just came unresponsive and then it stopped working. I'm not from the UK but lately google has been shipping this devices in the expected time if not sooner.
As for the case, I ordered the official bumper (looks awesome, in pictures at least...) and the Spigen SGP Ultra Dual from Amazon. I'll coma back tomorrow to post my initial impressions on the bumper an the screen protector, I hope it doesn't add too much bulk

tekken179 said:
Ha I didn't even know that worked!, Well my father is good at all that stuff and has much steadier hands and eyes than me, I'll have to give him a shout.
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that's a little tricky. I cut my counsin's sim successfully, but when I cut my sim, it didn't work...
Titanium Backup is good for... backup, if you are looking an useful apps for Nexus 4. I also use System Tuner to turn off some background-running and start-up apps, as well as watch the CPU's temperature. Another apps I use is BetterBatteryStats. You also need an apps like Solid Explorer (trial for 7 days), however there are many apps with the same function, and free. Topic for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992163
The Ballistic is bulky based on people's reviews, but they say it provides quite good protection.
I have this case http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992163, two layers, you can see the images and decide for yourself. If you want to see the back of your nexus, you can use the official bumper although some folks really dont like it because it provides nothing to protect the back. There is a case with a transparent back, the Ringkee or something, go to Accessories, that thread is quite hot there.
For the back and front screen. Becareful. dont drop it and it will stay in good condition. I recommend a screen protector to avoid scratches.
I dont know how it is easy to crack the phone. I take my phone everywhere in my jeans' pocket (not skinny ) and it 's still good now without a scratch.

Cheers Yea I ordered a micro-sim anyway I feel like changing my number as there is a few contacts I wish no longer had my number, not that they bother with me nor I with them, but just to make sure they don't
As for the second link, it's the same post (must have apps lol) what case? :S

Bumping the thread up! Can't wait to get this phone!!!!

Bump
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tekken179 said:
Also is there any other cheaper method to have it display on A TV other than the slimport output [Amazon.co.uk Link]
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For the Slimport adapter, you can at least save a few quid if you use the coupon code ANDROID3 at checkout on Amazon.co.uk. Saves you £3.

Ordered it this morning, shipped by 5pm GMT, could it come tonight?

I ordered mine at 2118 on a Monday night and I had it Tuesday morning... Can't complain
I don't have ant screen protectors or a case for mine - just need to be careful, just think a case ruins the look of the phone and I'm not willing to compromise
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