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Sup y'all, I really wanted to post this because I feel like the G5 is not getting the credit it deserves. But first let me give you a little bit of my smartphone background.
For the past 2 years, I have not kept a single phone for more than a month. The phone that I kept one month was the Galaxy S7 which was as recent as 3 weeks ago. Before that it was the HTC One M8 that I kept for 3 weeks. I constantly chang smartphones and I definitely have a condition . Im stating that because I have tried every phone you can possibly think of that came out from early 2014 till now. Prior to 2014 I wasnt going as crazy as I did the last couple of years. I'm slowing down now so that's good lol.
Just to name a few, I had the S7, Note 5, 6P, V10, G4, S6, S6 edge, S6 edge plus, Moto X, Xperias, Iphone 6s and 6s plus...not going to name them all but you get the point. So I'm very familiar with smartphones and I got a pretty damn good idea how they rank imo and in some areas objectively. The LG G5 is top 5 phones I have ever used EASILY. Is it the very best? No. I'll personally give that to the S7 (exynos variant) but it's right up there.
I got my G5 a few days ago and I'm already in love with it. It's not perfect by any means, but its a damn good phone and when I like or love something I feel the need to speak on behalf of it or defend it....whatever you wanna call it.
The phone has been out for over a month now so I got lucky and I didn't get any build quality issues. My module at the bottom Is perfectly lined up, no warping on the back of the phone, I don't notice any light bleed....my unit is as perfect as can be.
This phone has a fantastic display. I can see it very clearly in sunlight. No it's not as bright as the S7 but it's perfectly fine for me and it is super duper sharp. The wide angle camera is probably the best feature this phone has, it's too dope. I wonder why OEMs didn't think of doing that before, it's really really straight ????.
The performance is OUTSTANDING!!!!! This phone absolutely flies without slowing down ever. No lag, no stutter, it just slices through everything. Battery life is good. Not great, not bad, but it's good. I'd say it's slightly above average. I have only had my phone for 3 days but I get 4 1/2 of screen on time every day. In fact I'm on pace to reach over 5 hours of sot today. Plus I have the extra battery and cradle so I just swap batteries. I have yet to charge my phone, So convenient. Also, this is the thing that inspired me to start this post the most, it's the standby time of this phone. I have never ever ever ever seen anything like this before. Whether in wifi or mobile network data, whether the phone is laying down or is in your pocket, if you don't use the phone it does not drop one percent for HOURS. Im so impressed by that because coming from a Samsung phone, Samsung devices have atrocious standby time. But this is even better than an iPhone. It's absolutely insane.
Which leads me to say this. People bash LG for the G5 design, it's ugly, it feels cheap blah blah blah.....I understand all that. But there's another way to look at it. This is the only flagship to offer a removable battery. Whether you care for that or not you still gotta respect it. And the way it's done is pretty stylish to me, I have fun Everytime I switch the battery. Also they are pretty much the only OEM to still offer the IR blaster. Again, even if you don't use it it's there and it's the fact that LG gives us that option that is cool. Same thing with the coating on the back of the phone that ppl say feels plasticky, but it was done to hide the antenna bands. It seems to me that LG did what they did, having the best interest of the consumers in mind. Of course they wanna make money and all that but they could have easily ditched the removable battery, made a full metal unibody non removable battery device a la Samsung and call it a day. Instead they took the risk with the modularity. Today it's not respected but in the future when we look back at that, we will pay homage to LG for that. Great phone and I would recommend anyone to give it a try, it is totally worth it. I love the LG G5 and I'm very proud of it.
I still think the Exynos Galaxy S7 is overall the better phone, just because of the crazy battery life. In terms of performance they both cancel each other out. In day to day operation, fluidity and seem less operation I have to give it to the G5. In terms of loading apps, especially games and game play I have to give it to the S7. Both leads are minor but I do notice a difference.
The LG G5 is an incredible phone, I'm confident that if you take a 100 ppl on XDA who don't care for this device and let them test the phone for a few days, most of them will have a different opinion about it. I'm glad LG came out with this phone, much respect to them. Cheers!
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I'd like to say that if you have money like that to burn I could use a donation. PM me for my PayPal
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I'd like to say that if you have money like that to burn I could use a donation. PM me for my PayPal
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Lol! But actually I didn't burn money like that, I'm pretty good at reselling and buying so I was barely losing money when I was moving in to a new phone. Sometimes I gained money.
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barondebxl said:
Lol! But actually I didn't burn money like that, I'm pretty good at reselling and buying so I was barely losing money when I was moving in to a new phone. Sometimes I gained money.
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I'm curious how you did this, were you buying on eBay slightly used or what? If you were buying new I feel like you'd be spending a pretty penny each time you switched. Also all the phone setting up, oy vey! I guess that's the exciting time for phone ownership, the first few weeks, but its also the biggest headache . not sure I could do that.
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Off topic about his money.
I agree with you, I had a s5 and not interrested about s7 (it's close to iphone now) and nothing really new.
Lg have balls to make something new this year.
I don't understand why it is underappreciated.
Modules are just a +, wide angle is pretty fun and removable battery is a need.
I saw benchmarks where g5 is better, like read speed memory and in the comments nothing about the g5, just like it doesn't exist.. all are speaking about s7, htc 10, iphone etc..
I'm not saying this is the best phone, but it doesn't deserve these bad comments.
Anyway I don't care, this is my first lg and I don't regret this choice.
The unsung hero!
Couldn't agree more with OP, Yes the G5 is not perfect and in fact it was my second choice, I had initially pre-ordered HTC 10 but cancelled when it was delayed with shipment and went with G5 instead and I'm glad I did I have no regrets!:good:
Granted the HTC 10 hardware build quality and software is superior to G5's but I think internally this is a better phone. That dual lens is far from a gimmick it super useful and fun when taking pictures.
Pros:
- Dual Lens Wide and Normal
- Phenomenal standby time considering 2800mah battery ( Its the best I have seen from all the android phones I have ever owned!)
- Ergonomically feels better in the hand then the HTC 10
- No Lag blisteringly fast, never get too hot.
- Modular design
- Battery life: Light to Medium usage can get 20hrs, Heavy usage can get 15hrs that is amazing!
Cons:
- Although G5 is unibody metal, the finish is not at the level of HTC,Samsung or apple. (Its a case of LG taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back)
- Low capacity battery
- LG UI/skin not at the same level as HTC sense or Touchwiz (Doesn't bother me as I use Nova launcher)
My main gripes with the phone are inital launch bugs such as the auto brightness issue, the FFC bug, and the shorter battety life. Build quality isn't the greatest but its the finish they used that makes it feel worse. I have had 0 slow downs, lags, or any other SW issue that makes the phone unusable. Coming from the Note 5, this phone runs rock solid.
If LG pays attention to this device and regularly updates it. It just might become a 2 year phone for me.
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Lol! But actually I didn't burn money like that, I'm pretty good at reselling and buying so I was barely losing money when I was moving in to a new phone. Sometimes I gained money.
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Exactly. You just have to sell at the right time, and keep the phone in great condition. I've done the same over the years.
I agree 100% as well except i'd call the battery life exceptional. I am getting up to 6.5 hours SOT, over a days battery life and that's with wifi and or 4g on permanently, Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, Instagram, and screen brightness never lower than 70%, mostly around 90%.
There's only one other phone which can beat it for battery life (S6 and S7 will die very fast at 75 to 100% screen brightness), and that is the HTC one m8. My GF has it, and always has screen at 100% brightness and gets 7 hours SOT regularly.
I would say the G5 is a keeper for me... until a new phone with dual lenses as they are really important to me now.
gfreek said:
Couldn't agree more with OP, Yes the G5 is not perfect and in fact it was my second choice, I had initially pre-ordered HTC 10 but cancelled when it was delayed with shipment and went with G5 instead and I'm glad I did I have no regrets!:good:
Granted the HTC 10 hardware build quality and software is superior to G5's but I think internally this is a better phone. That dual lens is far from a gimmick it super useful and fun when taking pictures.
Pros:
- Dual Lens Wide and Normal
- Phenomenal standby time considering 2800mah battery ( Its the best I have seen from all the android phones I have ever owned!)
- Ergonomically feels better in the hand then the HTC 10
- No Lag blisteringly fast, never get too hot.
- Modular design
- Battery life: Light to Medium usage can get 20hrs, Heavy usage can get 15hrs that is amazing!
Cons:
- Although G5 is unibody metal, the finish is not at the level of HTC,Samsung or apple. (Its a case of LG taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back)
- Low capacity battery
- LG UI/skin not at the same level as HTC sense or Touchwiz (Doesn't bother me as I use Nova launcher)
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I am hearing so many bad comments about the HTC 10 on their forums about their phones lagging, saying that their nexus or M8's are way smoother. Also hearing that people who have the 10 that have messed with the G5 say the G5 is one of the fastest phones they have ever used. I'm not liking this, I might not get the 10 anymore and might just wait for the htc nexus or note 6.
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I am hearing so many bad comments about the HTC 10 on their forums about their phones lagging, saying that their nexus or M8's are way smoother. Also hearing that people who have the 10 that have messed with the G5 say the G5 is one of the fastest phones they have ever used. I'm not liking this, I might not get the 10 anymore and might just wait for the htc nexus or note 6.
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The G5 is super well optimized, and it's funny cause usually they suck at that. But They started with the V10 and carried that on to the G5.
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Totally agree with barondebxl !!!!!
To those like me who find themselves dismayed all alarmist posts, where there are countless jumble defects: catastrophic battery, dead pixels, stains on the screen, bars on the screen, GPS problems, bluetooth problems, catastrophic hardware finishes, crackling headphones, too low light, fingerprint sensor problem, not good pictures etc, etc ...
In these readings, I almost canceled my preorder.
Coming from a Note 3 that still works perfectly optimized by the root, very powerful, I do not really "need" to change (except for Note foist said to my half awaits impatiently ^^)
But I decided to wait and see: possible return within 15 days.
I received April 29 (Darty) and discovered the LG interface after 5 years spent with Samsung.
Balance sheet after two weeks where my point of comparison is the Samsung Note 3:
Connectivity: I have no problem with the Bluetooth (pairing is no problem with my car radio, other smartphones ...), GPS (waze no problems), the sound works well, whether media , headphones, telephony.
My battery holds without problem two examples:
17h22. to reach 26% 41% Desktop / 21% inactive phone / waze 9% / 6% Playstore / facebook 6% / 4% sleep / mood 3% / 1% OS
33h15 to arrive at 18%: 37% inactive phone / 28% screen / 7% waze / 6% cellular sleep / 5% facebook / 5% lge exchange / 3% OS / 2% mood (sms)
Charging is fast (i confess that I did not time it, but it is faster than the Samsung)
I let the still active bluetooth, GPS only with Waze (40 to 50 min / day) network that oscillates much between 4G, 3G and even Edge (travel between city and countryside -network Bouygues), always on the still active there including the night (I should point out that I lose with 0% at night.)
No physical problems: no scratches, bad finishing module that bad snaps from day between the bottom of the phone and body.
I was a little afraid of the boss of the sensors on the back of the device but frankly, I am pleased to see that it does not appear that much, and it is not unsightly.
The battery system is surprising: it is always afraid of the clip / unclip, but no concern to undo and return on the basis or the CamPlus.
No not with accessories problem earphones and CamPlus + official hull that were offered with the pre-order: the CamPlus fits well, is taken well in hand, but is certainly not very "pretty "globally on the phone, but it is not just that.
The shell fits perfectly to the body of the phone works perfectly for the always on, and all notifications which are inter-act: calls, alarms, always on, and it closes well, contrary to what I read.
Side screen and picture, no problem of light leakage spots, bars other dead pixels, or brightness: neither always on (which I find even too bright at night) or read (I often find very / too bright, which I blamed the Samsungs, consistently lowering the brightness).
The colors are true, I was afraid to "come down" to the LCD after enjoying the AMOLED. I actually detects nothing shocking about this change.
The pictures are good, more natural than photoshopped and instagrammé effect affixed by Samsung. The details are present, bright colors without being flashy, the wide mode with the dual sensor is a real plus, not too distorting effects.
I'm always trying to domesticate the manual mode, which offers many possibilities of shots, it's a bit complicated when not used, and there is no manual or explanatory guide.
system side: I'm V10c-EUR-XX is fluid, no lag. I returned to routinely Next launcher, I was pleased that LG will not rot their device with a multitude of useless apps, LG or Google or other partners. I easily off those that do not interest me, very few.
I installed Greenify, following me since its appearance, especially for apps such FB, twitter and G + that tend to reactivate and drain the battery.
No problem with the SD CARD, I can transfer what I want it, no recognition problem with my PC when I connect them together.
Small negatives: the USB3 cable is not plugged really well; it is not set as a USB 2 or 3. If the moves being transferred, it disconnects.
The app LG Health is a little less complete than the S Health (maybe time to get used to it), I especially regret not being able to return data on previous days.
Why the shell has thee an open window? I fear that the screen is scratched. The S view from Samsung was entirely covering the screen, and it worked well....
I do not yet fully tested CamPlus am, I hope to have good weather (and time) to do so soon.
That, I think I have everything reviewed ^^
I am fully satisfied with my choice and happy to have left the Samsung microcosm.
And for those who hesitate, I tell them: go ahead, throw yourself in the water !!
I still dont have the lg g5 because im waiting for the root to be released first. However, for those haters, i would like to say that if you dont like your lg g5 you can send it to me lol i will pay for the shipping.
Now, im going to comment in favor of the lg g5 even if i dont have it yet. Every phone has its flaws. There is not perfect phone yet because every customer has something they would like to add or remove. I currently own an S5 and im desperate to buy the lg g5, and not the s7 nor htc 10. And for me, huge flaws are the following ones: lack of slot for external sd card, no removable battery, burn in screen, and back easily breakable.
I dare you to leave your s7 with screen on and full brightness with an image with very saturaded color, and status bar on for half a day. That would be your biggest mistake(burn in image) . Here i am with my s5 with amoled screen and burn in image. Now, personally, the s5 is way better than the s7 in many aspects. And the s7 to me was like 1 steps forward 4 steps back for samsung. I was a fan of samsung but not anymore.
People who talk bad about the appearance, seems to be obsessed with just that. And i was wondering, do people always carry their phones without the cover? I really doubt that most of them do, and despite covers offer protection, they also cover the (what so many people call premium design and feeling). So, why to argue about the appearance when you will put it inside a cover anyway? Grow up and get over it.
Also, there is the problem with people complaining about the modules. Understand people, that's just an additional feature, and whether you want to buy more modules or batteries or not is not an obligation, it is an option. Thats way better than what samsung has done previously. Which is limiting your options. When you buy an any item, do you buy an item which is very limited on its functionality? Or do you buy an item that do more than it has to offer... I dont know you but LG has just opened a new gate on the era of smartphones. And probably samsung will end up copying it, and all other phones as well. Sure i heard that google was developing a new modular smartphone but they have taken so long, and whoever release their product first thats the one who desetve the 1st place that honors the feature. And that resulted to be LG.
Just my opinion hahaha
Totally agree !
I have burn in on my Note 3: the notification bar on top of the screen
I always use dark wallpapers and themes, night mode, except with Waze- > fatal error... :-/
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Have to agree with the OP. I absolutely love my G5!
As you can see from my Signature pic I have been through many manufacturers (including Samsung) and ended up sticking with LG for a while now. Loved my G3 (the 2gb/32gb version of course), the G4 was a step up in all aspects (once I got LG to replace the early motherboard with a new one that doesn't get bootloop), and now the G5 is just WOW. So fluid and smooth and the wide angle lens is brilliant. I have just come back from holiday with my partner who has an iPhone 6 Plus - arguably the best iPhone so far. Usually they take all the 'good' shots outside (my G4 beat indoors easily), but this time it was ... ' oh can you take that as I can't fit it all in'... even on the NORMAL angle I fitted more in, and widescreen well... no need to even comment! The picture quality is really good, colours look natural, and even though my Cam Plus module didn't turn up before I went away (grrr) the phone was a godsend!
I have no issues with bluetooth, the GPS works fine (with NavFree, Navigator and Google Maps), all my social apps work great, and thanks to Three UK and their free country roaming I had H+ throughout most of my Scandinavian trip!!
I know it has it's flaws. The screen has very slight 'bend' in the lower corners, and I hope this will be OK with my new glass protector when it arrives, but if not I will simply get it swapped out for one that doesn't have the bend issue. Compared to some issues I've had that is so minor it's not worth mentioning. Compare it to my friends who spend £700+ on top end iPhones who had them go all 'curved' simply by having them in their pockets!
I've had my G5 for a little over 3 weeks now and I must say that I am seriously digging this phone. I was team HTC up until the M9 which wasn't a bad phone...just very mediocre in most regards. One thing I LOVE about this phone is the camera, man this thing takes amazing pictures and the wide angle lense is a very welcomed plus. Battery life for me has been good but not great, standby is great but it drains a little on the fast side under moderate usage, overall not bad. The build has some minor detail issues that I no longer see because I put the phone in a case.
A lot of phones receive negative press and do not fully deserve it. I believe the G5 and HTC 10 both have received tough reviews, but both seem to be damn good phones. A lot of people subconsciously base their opinion off of the opinions of reviews and it seems to muddy the waters.
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I've had my G5 for a little over 3 weeks now and I must say that I am seriously digging this phone. I was team HTC up until the M9 which wasn't a bad phone...just very mediocre in most regards. One thing I LOVE about this phone is the camera, man this thing takes amazing pictures and the wide angle lense is a very welcomed plus. Battery life for me has been good but not great, standby is great but it drains a little on the fast side under moderate usage, overall not bad. The build has some minor detail issues that I no longer see because I put the phone in a case.
A lot of phones receive negative press and do not fully deserve it. I believe the G5 and HTC 10 both have received tough reviews, but both seem to be damn good phones. A lot of people subconsciously base their opinion off of the opinions of reviews and it seems to muddy the waters.
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Yep, all the reviews keep saying S7 Edge... so I went to buy an S7 Edge. Luckily, last minute I followed my guts and got the G5. Boy I'm happy with this phone!
I had it with me in Europe and it is amazing. :good::good::good:
Angie* said:
Totally agree !
I have burn in on my Note 3: the notification bar on top of the screen
I always use dark wallpapers and themes, night mode, except with Waze- > fatal error... :-/
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hahahah that's what i thought at first. That the notification bar was the one burned in the screen, but it is the opposite, because the notification bar is pure black, it doesnt degrade the pixels from is true colors. The areas of pure blackness in the phone with amoled screen doesnt use the pixels, instead it turn them off. You just have to search on google for a white image and put it in a full screen mode. You will see that there are 2 whites. One one kind of yellowish turning brown, and the other one is the best one an amoled screen can achieve. Therefore, your situation is just like mine. We have our screen about 95 percent completely burn, the other 5 percent is not burn. And if you leave an image with multiple colors and some sections with pure black then only the color parts will burn in. Then black part wont.
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hahahah that's what i thought at first. That the notification bar was the one burned in the screen, but it is the opposite, because the notification bar is pure black, it doesnt degrade the pixels from is true colors. The areas of pure blackness in the phone with amoled screen doesnt use the pixels, instead it turn them off. You just have to search on google for a white image and put it in a full screen mode. You will see that there are 2 whites. One one kind of yellowish turning brown, and the other one is the best one an amoled screen can achieve. Therefore, your situation is just like mine. We have our screen about 95 percent completely burn, the other 5 percent is not burn. And if you leave an image with multiple colors and some sections with pure black then only the color parts will burn in. Then black part wont.
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These amoled now operate differently than it used too, the black is still on now, they are slightly lit, unlike the very early version, just go into a totally dark room and use a pixel tester for a total black screen, you can see the black is still lit.
@joseguillen1994 : ouch !!
Is it true ? It's frightening !
I'll always use dark wallpapers and themes, to preserve the screen !! ?
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These amoled now operate differently than it used too, the black is still on now, they are slightly lit, unlike the very early version, just go into a totally dark room and use a pixel tester for a total black screen, you can see the black is still lit.
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HA! to make it worst hahaha. well, i think im ready to change to the lg g5 as soon as the root for the h830 is released. Just imagine that i bought my father an LG g3 and i almost told him to exchange it with me lol! It is way faster than the s5, sure, the picture of the lg g3 is not as good as the s5, however, i bet the lg g5 can beat the s5 camera even if they have the same amount of mega pixels. It's not that im against samsung, but a dont feel like buying a new screen everytime i leave the screen on, or that every 6 month to 1 1/2 i have to buy a new screen. The day that AMOLED screens solve this issue then i might consider to go back to them. Otherwise, im out of AMOLEDs . I dont really care about pure black colors in a phone, in the end when you pass the photos to computer they all have the same black lol. By the way. thanks for letting me know about how AMOLED works now.
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@joseguillen1994 : ouch !!
Is it true ? It's frightening !
I'll always use dark wallpapers and themes, to preserve the screen !! ��
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That's why they suggest to use dark wallpapers, because by using it you will use less battery, but that only qualifies for AMOLED screen, However i put IPS and AMOLED Phones in a balance and (i will take samsung again as an example because i have followed the flagship of samsung since the S2 and Note 1 and all of then got burn in screen) i just see that there is not significant improvement in AMOLED devices now. In fact, for me the samsung galaxy s5 is better than the S7 or the S6. The S6 removed the waterproof, the S7 added back the waterproof, the S6 added the IR back, the S7 Removed it. Both S6 and S7 removed the ability to change the battery (unless opened the phone=remove warranty), The S6 had 16 MP of camera, the S7 lowered the pixels of the camera. As you can see i dont really see any real improvement in the s7 or S6 . Removing and putting back, then removing again. In exchange, the LG has show improvement (sure in a slow way, taking its time but the have done it). they even kept the ability of IR which S7 removed. sure, it is not important for many people, however it is there. What makes a phone great or interesting is that even if you dont use a feature at all, the feature is there for if any day something happens, or your interest to use it awakes all of the sudden. It's the same thing people dont understand about the modules, they say that modules are crap , but they don't see the real point of those modules. They are not a need, they are a want (You use it if you want them, not if you need them). And also there are rumors that LG is open for developers who wants to create new modules and they will earn a significant percent of the income generated. So,,,, who knows if there will be even more interesting things than we are currently seen on the LG G5. (I have always appreciate the smartphone developers who give us the option in case we need them :good::good::good::good::good
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Nokia 8, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Nokia 8 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Got the phone yesterday and what can I say, it's an amazing phone.
Great to hold, the screen is world class, the camera's are fast and produce quality photo's even in low light.
The speed is amazing.
As for updates, it's had one already.
Highly recommended.
I've had the update just show up now - im installing it as we speak.
What are you comparing it to?
Great phone, but no native gallery or music apps? Ok, it is a pure android but still...
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Great phone, but no native gallery or music apps? Ok, it is a pure android but still...
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Google Photos and Google Play Music.. Photos wants to upload everything to cloud, you can say no or just upload it if you are ok with cloud. Haven't checked if you get unlimited Google Photos space with this like you get with Nexus. Google Play Music will automatically add stuff you put into Music folder in the phone. Tested with few .flac files and they automatically appeared in Play Music.
Nokia 8
Pros :
Build quality
Display.. The best in price segment
Processor and and no lag at all
Pricing
Brand image
Doesn't get heated even after heavy usage
Cons:
Camera app
May be design is not 2017 model
One thing worried me from the reviews and that was the accuracy and speed of the fingerprint sensor which was supposed to be poor. Coming from an HTC 10 with an excellent sensor I was concerned. I've been glad to find the review opinions is absolute hogwash. The Nokia sensor is every bit as accurate and fast as you'd expect it to be in a flagship.
Really want to get the Nokia 8, can someone coming from the Galaxy S6 tell me two things
1. How does the camera compare to the S6
2. In the Galaxy s6 there is a private mode where some notes and pictures are hidden from view. Is there a similar facility in the Nokia 8, not interested in a different app for this.
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One thing worried me from the reviews and that was the accuracy and speed of the fingerprint sensor which was supposed to be poor. Coming from an HTC 10 with an excellent sensor I was concerned. I've been glad to find the review opinions is absolute hogwash. The Nokia sensor is every bit as accurate and fast as you'd expect it to be in a flagship.
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I have both HTC10 and N8 and fingerprint sensor on HTC is a bit faster and snapier.
As for my personal opinion about N8:
Superb build quality and overall specs. Camera is a bit dated but we will see what will upcoming updates bring. Pure android experience after coming from device like HTC M7, 10 is really meeeh. Lack of configuration, stock apps are just really simple. No weather app preinstalled. Google calendar is a complete **** as far as UI goes comparing to aftermarket solutions. Stock google dialer and contacts are also unimpressive.
Stock N8 launcher is also meh so I bought Nova couple of minutes after playing with the phone.
Hidden option to show percentage batter is a joke, you need to have magnifying glass to see the values *inside* the battery icon, lol.
So far the biggest drawback is lack of screen color calibration and night mode. This should be included in any moder phone. N8 screen should be a little warmer.
Overall I am really happy with this phone and my family member is happy even more. She can get used to all things that I consider drawbacks. If it would not be for a lack of out of the box config options I would actualy rate N8 higher that my beloved HTC10 which I consider one of the best devices ever made for my personal preferences like build quality, finger sensor on the front and hardware buttons below the screen.
cavist said:
I have both HTC10 and N8 and fingerprint sensor on HTC is a bit faster and snapier.
As for my personal opinion about N8:
Superb build quality and overall specs. Camera is a bit dated but we will see what will upcoming updates bring. Pure android experience after coming from device like HTC M7, 10 is really meeeh. Lack of configuration, stock apps are just really simple. No weather app preinstalled. Google calendar is a complete **** as far as UI goes comparing to aftermarket solutions. Stock google dialer and contacts are also unimpressive.
Stock N8 launcher is also meh so I bought Nova couple of minutes after playing with the phone.
Hidden option to show percentage batter is a joke, you need to have magnifying glass to see the values *inside* the battery icon, lol.
So far the biggest drawback is lack of screen color calibration and night mode. This should be included in any moder phone. N8 screen should be a little warmer.
Overall I am really happy with this phone and my family member is happy even more. She can get used to all things that I consider drawbacks. If it would not be for a lack of out of the box config options I would actualy rate N8 higher that my beloved HTC10 which I consider one of the best devices ever made for my personal preferences like build quality, finger sensor on the front and hardware buttons below the screen.
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I'm the opposite I prefer the pure experience. On both HTC one and 10 I ran stockish custom ROMs to keep os up to date because let's face HTC didn't. That's my hope for Nokia that maybe just maybe I won't need to do that.
I never bothered with updating every month since I was and still am running custom roms on my HTC10 and previous devices so I just wait patiently for new update and switch every 2-3 update. I think if I would run stock, for me it would be enough to have only one update before switching to new Android version. I really do not care about the monthly security updates just because I am ignorant and do not feel compromised. Having phone memory and storage encrypted + password locked device on boot and lockscreen is enough security. So I do not bash HTC for being slow and lazy with updates.
But I completely understand people, who would want to have updates as often as possible and that is why Nokia is a better choice. It is faster to update stock android rather than branded one like with HTC and optional carrier branding.
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I never bothered with updating every month since I was and still am running custom roms on my HTC10 and previous devices so I just wait patiently for new update and switch every 2-3 update. I think if I would run stock, for me it would be enough to have only one update before switching to new Android version. I really do not care about the monthly security updates just because I am ignorant and do not feel compromised. Having phone memory and storage encrypted + password locked device on boot and lockscreen is enough security. So I do not bash HTC for being slow and lazy with updates.
But I completely understand people, who would want to have updates as often as possible and that is why Nokia is a better choice. It is faster to update stock android rather than branded one like with HTC and optional carrier branding.
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In my opinion HTC needed to commit to the monthly updates. For me being stuck on June update in November on last year's flagship was the last straw. Too many major security flaws in that period being left unpatched. HTC themselves made a point of being near stock for fast updates then failed to deliver. Google will eventually take over fully.
I've had the phone for 2 days. My first powerful Android phone, upgrading from BB bold 9000. So I might be biased. The overall experience is good.
So in the UK the Nokia 8 was £400, absolute bargain for a phone with THAT processor and THAT screen. But Nokia was still an unknown quantity with android. In the end I decided to buy the Nokia 8 with a 14 day exchange policy. It was too good of a price to pass over and I ain't letting Samsung and iPhone rob me for £600 plus.
The best thing is the pure stock android and overall performance it really is as fast as any android phone except the Pixel 2. Battery was good enough; you have to consider that there's that 2k screen. The 2k screen looks great for an LCD although there's really no need for 2k if it's at the expense of battery life. But yeah the pros of this phone are definitely the screen quality and performance.
On to the bad stuff. First thing I didn't like are the dimensions of the phone; I've used bigger phones but this doesn't feel right in the hand, too wide for the height imo. Next thing is the camera, I don't care for the extra stuff I just want a good point and shoot camera; this phone sucks in that regard. Really slow and really underwhelming quality considering how it was marketed. Next, the fingerprint sensor. It's just too small and it led to it misreading enough to become frustrating. Even when it reads my fingerprint it unlocks much slower than the competition. This the deal breaker for me. The quick glance screen was very basic, only showed text and call notifications no WhatsApp notifications I dunno it just annoyed me.
In the end I returned the phone and paid 100 extra to get the Pixel 2, absolutely outstanding phone but that's for another review.
To conclude the Nokia 8 is a very underrated phone and provides great value for money. But I wanted a phone that I can use for the next 2-3 years without frustration and Nokia just didn't do it for me.
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So in the UK the Nokia 8 was £400, absolute bargain for a phone with THAT processor and THAT screen. But Nokia was still an unknown quantity with android. In the end I decided to buy the Nokia 8 with a 14 day exchange policy. It was too good of a price to pass over and I ain't letting Samsung and iPhone rob me for £600 plus.
The best thing is the pure stock android and overall performance it really is as fast as any android phone except the Pixel 2. Battery was good enough; you have to consider that there's that 2k screen. The 2k screen looks great for an LCD although there's really no need for 2k if it's at the expense of battery life. But yeah the pros of this phone are definitely the screen quality and performance.
On to the bad stuff. First thing I didn't like are the dimensions of the phone; I've used bigger phones but this doesn't feel right in the hand, too wide for the height imo. Next thing is the camera, I don't care for the extra stuff I just want a good point and shoot camera; this phone sucks in that regard. Really slow and really underwhelming quality considering how it was marketed. Next, the fingerprint sensor. It's just too small and it led to it misreading enough to become frustrating. Even when it reads my fingerprint it unlocks much slower than the competition. This the deal breaker for me. The quick glance screen was very basic, only showed text and call notifications no WhatsApp notifications I dunno it just annoyed me.
In the end I returned the phone and paid 100 extra to get the Pixel 2, absolutely outstanding phone but that's for another review.
To conclude the Nokia 8 is a very underrated phone and provides great value for money. But I wanted a phone that I can use for the next 2-3 years without frustration and Nokia just didn't do it for me.
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Finger print sensor snappier after 8.1 and also i never faced any misreading. This was very strange problem you faced
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Finger print sensor snappier after 8.1 and also i never faced any misreading. This was very strange problem you faced
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I've had loads of misreading issues on 8.0.
8.1 fixed it.
Also, as you saying. Fingerprint sensor is twice faster on 8.1 beta.
I'm considering buying another Nokia 8 that's how much I like this phone
Pros
The display is amazing for LCD + no AMOLED burn in
Speaker is louder than my iPhone 7 plus
Battery is good
Stock android 8.1
Smooth/fluidity/fast
Price
Daytime pictures
Headphone jack
Micro SD card
Cons
Lowlight pictures
Fingerprint sensor location and odd shape/size
Vibration/haptic isn't that strong
Shape of phone (it's not so fun to hold vs say my moto g5 plus) awkward shape
Back metal doesn't feel like metal, more like plastic
Great great phone. And yes you can tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p. Even at a distance. Try changing the resolution to 1080p in adb using same way with xz premium to 4k, you will notice the fuzz from 1080p to 1440p
its a great phone when it was locked and without root, now that mine is rooted, lets see what it can do !
The fact you can get this now from carphone warehouse here in the UK for £300, like I did on Monday, is unbelievable. The absolutely blows anything else for that price and up to the OnePlus 5 out of the water. I haven't been this happy with a device in a long time and in 2017 I had a lot of devices. It's only £70 more than the Moto G5s plus. There's no contest.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Huawei P20, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Huawei P20 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I like so many things about P20 and few don't, P20 pro is not worth the money even if it 3 cam or highest rated on DxO , I got Sony A7 full frame mirrorless which no future phone can match at least for next five years
Good: Dual SIM as standard with most UK retailer
Design, front fingerprint reader
8.1 out of box
Huawei's customer service
Dolby Atmos
Reasonable price and even better with £320 Bose headphones
4 GB ram is not flagship class but acceptable
Bad: poor IP rating
No autofocus front cam with wasted megapixel (24 MP) what's the point ?
No FM radio
No infrared
Screen resolution is ok but screen quality is not on par with Sony, Samsung, LG or HTC
main snapper is too good on paper but in actual test I found not much visible improvement compared with last year's model
Given the size of battery , the battery life will dafinatly not better than P20 pro, Mate 10 pro, OnePlus 5, or Galaxy S9
Given the scenario I will go with Huawei mate 10 pro
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I like so many things about P20 and few don't, P20 pro is not worth the money even if it 3 cam or highest rated on DxO , I got Sony A7 full frame mirrorless which no future phone can match at least for next five years
Good: Dual SIM as standard with most UK retailer
Design, front fingerprint reader
8.1 out of box
Huawei's customer service
Dolby Atmos
Reasonable price and even better with £320 Bose headphones
4 GB ram is not flagship class but acceptable
Bad: poor IP rating
No autofocus front cam with wasted megapixel (24 MP) what's the point ?
No FM radio
No infrared
Screen resolution is ok but screen quality is not on par with Sony, Samsung, LG or HTC
main snapper is too good on paper but in actual test I found not much visible improvement compared with last year's model
Given the size of battery , the battery life will dafinatly not better than P20 pro, Mate 10 pro, OnePlus 5, or Galaxy S9
Given the scenario I will go with Huawei mate 10 pro
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Full Huawei range
Know everything about HiSilicon Kirin 970 and it's full characteristic, be sure & proud on your chosen device
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12195/hisilicon-kirin-970-power-performance-overview
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Full Huawei range
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Just found out that device sold by retailer like Voda, EE, cpw does have micro SD slot and NOT have dual SIM
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Just found out that device sold by retailer like Voda, EE, cpw does have micro SD slot and NOT have dual SIM
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is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
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is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
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Same here, Carphonewarehouse one is NOT dual SIM , big disappointment
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is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
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I can confined , I got mine yesterday and it's not dual SIM
Anyone else having serious lag in Google maps?
Previously: Huawei messed something up in the past on P10 and map on satellite mode worked like s**t but they fixed on Emui 8.
However now on my P20 everything is slow and freezes in Google Maps, will check logcat for anything strange.
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Anyone else having serious lag in Google maps?
Previously: Huawei messed something up in the past on P10 and map on satellite mode worked like s**t but they fixed on Emui 8.
However now on my P20 everything is slow and freezes in Google Maps, will check logcat for anything strange.
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I don't have any issues with Maps on my P20 paul678, Satellite view does however take 2-3 seconds to load but is fine after that.
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I don't have any issues with Maps on my P20 paul678, Satellite view does however take 2-3 seconds to load but is fine after that.
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For me the map itself is ok, scroll/pan/zoom works pretty well.
The problems appear when pressing the top search..that takes some time to react and a similar problem when doing a long press to drop a pin and then try to open the bottom sheet that contains details.
Can you check to see if you have problems with the above mentioned scenarios?
Love this handset overall. Battery life is great, camera is great, screen is great, sound is great (which was a big bone of contention with me coming from LG V20!).
Please add section on real-life review for Audio Quality! Both speaker and headphones (wired and wireless!).
P20 Lcd Problem(yellow screen where the navigation buttons are)
Hi Xda
First of all i want to say that the lcd screen looks great BUT i replaced my device for a third time but still no luck... The screen on the virtualbuttons is yellowish then the rest of the screen... Its the screen just above the touchbutton or on the virtual navigation buttons... Does someone has this also please comment, thank you!
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Hi Xda
First of all i want to say that the lcd screen looks great BUT i replaced my device for a third time but still no luck... The screen on the virtualbuttons is yellowish then the rest of the screen... Its the screen just above the touchbutton or on the virtual navigation buttons... Does someone has this also please comment, thank you!
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Hi, I deactivated the on screen buttons a while ago, find more convenient using the multifunctional home button. I had the impression of yellow on the buttons bar also before, more a software issue to me.
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Hi, I deactivated the on screen buttons
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Its still yellow without the screenbuttons i just wanted to explain where the yellowish area is located. Received 3rd device still problem occurs, im switching to iphone x
I replaced my Zuk Z2 Pro with the P20. French n°1 telecom company made a price mistake and sold it for 249€ for about 15 minutes. It was the perfect occasion to change my phone.
Pros :
- Screen. Quality is just under the Z2 Pro AMOLED, but it's nice, big, reactive.
- Battery. It lasts way longer than what became the Z2 Pro battery
- Power. Obviously, nowadays, every phone allows you to do everything quickly when you're not into gaming
- Quality. The phone looks like it's perfectly build.
- Huawei offers, in France, the Freebuds with the phone (12 weeks to receive them, so I don't know if they are good)
- Bundle is nice : silicon case and noise reduction earphones (I don't like them, but
Cons :
- EMUI. I've been on custom ROMs over the last 5 years, and, OMG, it's very hard to be on a OEM ROM with so many limitation. Simply expand notification on the lockscreen or skipping a track with Vol+ or - is impossible. It induces erratic behaviour in some apps (no notifications from Telegram, even if all parameters are the same than Whatsapp), etc...
- Locked bootloader. I missed the news of Huawei preventing unlocking after the 25th of July. I hope there will be a solution soon for that.
- The charger. Every other charger than a SuperCharge one will charge the phone veeeeeeeeery slowly. My car charger, 2,1A, can't even charge the phone when Waze is on... My QC3 power bank becomes almost useless. As soon as the battery of the P20 will last less than a day, I will be annoyed. I hope it will never happen.
- Size : it's 4mm higher than the Zuk Z2 Pro, and it's 4mm too much. To fit in my pocket, the perfect size is 145mm.
- Phone Clone did not work with my Zuk Z2 Pro, it was a pain to import all the datas
- No SD card : risk of losing everything if the telephone is lost or whatever. To retrieve datas from one phone to another, SD Card is the most practicle
I'm waiting for the Mi 8 SE to be released in France with the right LTE frequencies, or an equivalent phone. I'll then sell my P20.
Excelente!
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For me the map itself is ok, scroll/pan/zoom works pretty well.
The problems appear when pressing the top search..that takes some time to react and a similar problem when doing a long press to drop a pin and then try to open the bottom sheet that contains details.
Can you check to see if you have problems with the above mentioned scenarios?
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I have exactly same problems as you describe, but to be noted: I did not update the phone since I first started it so... that might be the problem because it is urging me to update like every day (and the fix might be in some later build)....
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I have exactly same problems as you describe, but to be noted: I did not update the phone since I first started it so... that might be the problem because it is urging me to update like every day (and the fix might be in some later build)....
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Lol should probably update
I never thought of this as a "flagship" phone and honestly it isn't. It's an expensive mid-range device.
As far as rating from 1 (worst) to 5 (best)
1. Screen - 5 Sharp and colorful. I like this display, I think Huawei phones with LCDs are top notch screens, their Amoled screens they use are not so much.
2. form/size/ - 4 Perfect size for those who aren't looking for a large device- People coming from Samsung Note, and Pluses, iPhone pluses- look elswhere, this phone will feel significantly smaller. Still not 5 though. The aspect ratio is just kinda weird. I actually wish if was wider a bit, because using it landscape mode in navigation, half the screen is gone with the GPS GUI with the map is only 1/3, same issue with lots of other apps. This problem isn't only this phone specific, many other phones narrowing down their display size, like its some sort of a trend now, I'm not very happy about it.
3. Operating system - 2 While it has improved over the last couple of years, EMUI is still laggy. I can't pinpoint the real issue, since I'm not a developer but it seems like touch /sensitivy issues. I saw some complains regarding dead areas/less sensitive spots on some Huawei devices, and it seems like a recurring problem on more than just one model. There is also that sense of lacking fluidity. Anyone who used pure Google Android or near stock, or iOS or even Touchwiz will notice a sense of disconnect between touch input and reaction time in EMUI, and sometimes hang ups and delays, other times it's reacting too fast . It's hard to demonstrate, because even if someone would make a video, it's more of a feeling kinda thing, while using the device, a video wouldn't really show the issue.
There is also a sense of incompatibility while using even popular apps, whether they lag at some point or the app has to be restarted or even crash. Or have the app work as intended and then suspended in memory, return and the app would lag or just hang up, forcing me to quit and restart.
This happened to me more than once, and not only on the P20, but on an older Honor device. I have to blame EMUI because Chinese phones running near stock Android but similar hardware (or even weaker chipset) does not exhibit the same behavior.
4. Camera (rear) - 4.5 Can't give 5, because after a month of using this phone, there are time when the camera also lags, gets frozen or behaves erratically. To be on the positive note, this happens rarely, but it happens I'd say 1 out of 30 times the camera is launched. This might be a combination of apps loaded in the background while the camera is launched /re-launched or the phone is putting apps to sleep and just can't react quickly to user input, I don't know. Otherwise when it works, it makes remarkable shots, very "Instagram worthy" ones, although some people will probably turn off the AI to produce more realistic shots instead of Lord of the Rings style fantasy scenery. Jokes aside, the camera on this can be easily match the top flagships of 2018 phones, although personally I still prefer Samsung phone cameras work . And just for reference, I don't like iPhone _____cameras either (insert any iPhone since 2010), with their yellow/brownish tint applied on everything and under or over exposed shots and no control over anything user unfriendliness.
5. Camera (front)- 3. I don't really use it much, but the few times I tried it, it's made for selfie maniacs with all beauty modes, even with the beauty mode off, it still looks like it applies something. Blonde hair can show up as reddish for some reason, other times people I took selfies with noticed, that their eyebrows were missing. Funny as it sounds, the phone tries to Photoshop you aggressively without your consent, depending on the lighting conditions, but otherwise the selfie camera I'd rate it average, because it's more of a trend, even the newest iphones produce selifes, that are love it or hate it, depending on what the user is looking for.
6. Battery: - 4. By 2018 standards, it's average to very good. I see some people complain about 4-5 hours of screen on time, others report up to 8. I personally got about 5-6hrs and standby time is amazing. I'm sure EMUI has an aggressive power management, which may save plenty of battery life, but I suspect it may be also the culprit some of the issues regarding system performance and app management.
6. Overall : - 3.75 out of 5. After using several phones in 2018, including cheap budget phones to the iPhone X and back to mid range, this phone is no way and no how a flagship phone. It's a an expensive top-mid-range device. It's neither anything special, nor mediocre. Recommended for people coming from Apple and have absolutely zero skill using an Android. I also think, it's overpriced, especially right now (2019 January).
* Extra note: The vibrator. Very 2013-ish. Huawei needs to learn to implement a better taptic engine. iPhones are unbeatable in it, probably their best feature. The buzzing feel just don't cut it anymore. As I heard Pixels have them well, and some of the newer Motorola phones have it well done and they are cheaper. It gives a whole new dimension to the device to have a good haptic feedback. This phone buzzer/vibrator just feels kinda cheap and obsolete.
I agree with dollarpapa, P20 is a decent phone but nothing remarkable really. I bought it 6 months ago for a beefy price tag of 545 euros, it costs around 450 euros now. The main reason I picked p20 at that time was the camera, it was the 2nd best rated camera according to dxomark and bunch of youtubers.
My thoughts in brief:
1. Camera: Really good at night. Not great during the day.
2. Screen: pretty bright and crisp, however Amoleds are always more appealing.
3. Battery: very good.
4. UI: garbage. Like others have mentioned, there is a minor touch lag that kills the smoothness compared to say og Pixel.
5. Speed: the storage is really fast, that means apps open up really quick. Memory management is horrible, worse than og Pixel.
Overall I'd say don't buy this phone in 2019 unless you want it only for night time pictures. A decent alternative is Galaxy S9 without sacrificing much in terms of camera quality. For performance, I'd go with Pocophone f1,but the camera will be much worse.
I realize I. might upset the hardcore Fanboys here,but I'm a little disappointed in my OP6T,The phone is great,but I feel it hasn't got as much support as it's predecessors in terms of updates so far and it's software experience so far has just been okay,
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The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a LED NOTIFICATION light.
Camera could have been better but it's usable.
Other than that, the device itself is amazing.
Before the purchase I had big concerns because of some bad reviews and some comments in this forum (no headphone jack, annoying fingerprint scanner, missing led, screen brightness).
However, after using it, I have to say, that it is great. It is the best phone I ever had (came from multiple samsung devices: galaxy m, galaxy s5, galaxy s8+).
I noticed, that I dont miss any of that things mentioned above with the OP6T.
So for me, it was the other way around: Before purchase, major concerns. After purchase, I feel really happy with the phone.
One thing I don't like about this device is the fingerprint it lags sometimes other brands like oppo and vivo phones have faster fingerprint responsive in display fingerprints.
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The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a LED NOTIFICATION light.
Camera could have been better but it's usable.
Other than that, the device itself is amazing.
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Love my 6T. No disappointment. But I really wish they had I included the notification LED also.
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I bought the McLaren edition, thinking I would have a nice phone for about two years, BUT, my phone suffering from considerable oled uniformity. The fact is that it has the absolutely worst oled screen I've ever seen. And it takes away all the joy of using the phone. I'm super mega disappointed just because of the bad screen.
Notification led missing, but replaced with Plus Beat app. Of course i prefer notification LED.
Camera it's good in day light. At night i sleep.
The updates are GOOD. 6T just caugth chinese hollydays. What phone gives you updates once at 2 weeks ? (open betas)
Fingerprint and some other apps lags because of deep sleep, baterry savings.
Only BIG disappointment for me it's front camera! I never do seflie. It's LAME !
Interesting to read your comments,having come from op3 and last year went from the 6 to 6T,I am disappointed not least because the 6 is a better phone this year than the T, besides the battery life,
really wish they could have fitted in the led somewhere and kept the rear fingerprint scanner,also feel like they just put the in display sensor there for the sake of it,because they ran fresh out of selling points, I'm not even sure they'll keep it for the 7,
Also there has been a lack of quality updates for the 6T in terms of optimizations for camera and fingerprint,
I'm keeping my eye on the xaomi mi 9 thinking that thing is gonna be cheaper than the 7 and comes with a whole load of awesome features like 48mp camera,quick wireless charge.I stick with OnePlus for community and betas,but there prices are gonna be mental soon compared to competition.
Not sure OnePlus is worth settling for anymore when compared to competition
I'm disappointed in the dropped *Universal Audio port* 0 reason for this.. The notification LED 0 reason for this, the inferior FP sensor that gets slower every time I use it and just repeatedly rejects my left thumb no matter where I place it or how many times I re enrol it..
The garbage single speaker and output over the type C port, I thought they would of improved the DAC by now. Luckily for me I bought a KZ Type C cable that has it's own bundled DAC so it's a little better than the one included in the phone.
The garbage camera software and budget Sony sensors... Still cutting corners and making same old mistakes. They wanna be premium now and charge almost flagship money. Yet can't give a good camera experience.
Buggy OOS same old bugs that ruin the experience.... No camera blobs what they promised in the OP3 and no source for the FP sensor is just taking the p**s, Luckily we have gcam ports and Talented devs to port the fp sensor functionality to AOSP based roms.
For me if they don't improve the audio or camera won't be buying future devices. OP3 launched at £309 with basically the same experience, Yet the OP6T is £499 and still paying for the same old "Mid range hardware and cut corners" nothing warrants the price increase.
never!
I've had the McLaren edition for about a month. Whereas I can understand some of the common complaints others have about the device, I personally remain very happy with my purchase. I have had a lot of fun with this device and the pros about the device far outweigh the cons.
I find that these days it is hard to find the perfect device for me mainly because of the development community which is very important to me. The inability to unlock bootloaders and have a robust development community on other devices immediately rule those devices out. At this point, I feel I'll stay with Oneplus devices or try out a Pixel at some point. I just feel that what you get with Oneplus for the money provides a very high ROI.
So, no, I am not disappointed and am rather having fun learning new mods and enjoying my sleek special edition device. :good:
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In today's world all that light does is stay permanently on. Back in '05 it made sense before there was a new notification every 10 minutes for something or another.
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In today's world all that light does is stay permanently on. Back in '05 it made sense before there was a new notification every 10 minutes for something or another.
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I completely disagree.
Every Android device I ever had before was able to use that light plus the Light Flow app, to silently notify me of different types of notifications. Blue for emails from friends, purple for email to my account shared with wife, yellow for commercial things like bills, red for incoming texts, white for voicemail waiting. Flashing in sequence for combinations of these.
No ring, no vibration to distract a meeting, and I could discretely look down at the other wise dark phone at any time and know what's up, or see it from across the kitchen.
It used almost no battery and was completely unobtrusive.
Bring back the LED!
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Only with the in-screen fp sensor. It's a gimmick that solves no problem and is sub-standard compared to rear fp sensor that preceded it.
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I completely disagree.
Every Android device I ever had before was able to use that light plus the Light Flow app, to silently notify me of different types of notifications. Blue for emails from friends, purple for email to my account shared with wife, yellow for commercial things like bills, red for incoming texts, white for voicemail waiting. Flashing in sequence for combinations of these.
No ring, no vibration to distract a meeting, and I could discretely look down at the other wise dark phone at any time and know what's up, or see it from across the kitchen.
It used almost no battery and was completely unobtrusive.
Bring back the LED!
Well, you should check out NoLED app. You can do most all of the above! I have every type of notification color coded and the dot(s) appear on the screen (and moves around to prevent any burn-in). Doesn't seem to use a lot of battery for me. :good:
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So far I am loving the 6T! I just went to the Verizon store and tried to talk my wife into letting me buy the S10. I do my normal routine and explain to her,,,as she is ignoring me LOL,, that the new S10 has all these new features and improvements. But, what really happened is that I talked myself out of buying the S10. I just couldn't justify spending 380 (which is what it would have been after trading in my older S9 and the Teacher discount she gets). The ram was the same, storage size the same, touch wiz in any form can be a pain (even though the new UI is pretty good I have to admit). It just wasnt that big of an upgrade to me. After putting a wireless charging receiver inside the case of my 6T now I have wireless charging, I am completely content.
this phone sucks....
i don't get why so many said its good phone or the best phone at all
i am actually having problem with dual sim, it won't lock to my data sim and it keeps on switching to the non data sim after i leave my house and wifi get disconnected so i have to manually switch back to my data everytime, its so annoying
also the finger print its a joke...its better off using face or pin
bluetooth keeps disconnect occasionally when it connected my car's bluetooth, not sure why and not sure why sometimes works
vibrate is very weak that missed all the calls and notifications
double tap to wake up doesn't work 100 percent of the time, maybe 80 percent work
with this price point, its sucks, its a super annoying phone
Must be worth something for TMobile to be offering a trade in value of 390 for it if you're buying the Galaxy S10.
I'm not disappointed as I did my research and knew what to expect from the phone from this price point. I do miss the stereo speakers set up and led notification but other than that it's a good phone.
If people want all the bells and whistles then they are going to have to spend £1000 on Samsung or Huawei. There are competition out there for OnePlus at the similar price point but they also make compromises sadly, like the Mi 9 looks great on paper but still mono speaker and early reviews say it's laggy.
Hello Everyone,
Hope I get some help from here, so long story short but not too short:
I moved to S10 Plus after 9 years of Apple phones and now struggling to cop up with few issues on this Samsung device:
- Accidental touches in the pocket - Had to turn off AOD, double tap to wake up and lift to wake (one of the reasons I made a switch lol)
- Batter drain - 1 hour of SOT and phone is down to 80%, killing me as it drains so quickly in standby, every 10 minutes it would drop 1%, on Optimised battery, 50% brightness with Full HD resolutions - tried all other tweaks you mentioned. Only thing I am feeling is that I used SmartSwitch to bring my messages, call history etc from iPhone - if Samsung techies here think that might be the issue then please help me on how to backup my messages etc to do a clean restore (sorry I am new to Android and only know iTunes until now)?
- NO glass protectors - It is a shame that after you spend and buy such an expensive phone, one is unable to protect it with a Glass protector: I read Dome glass protector works but some people mentioned it does not work with fingerprint scanner - also its very costly too , please share your thoughts on how you guys are protecting the screen?
- Face unlock - I was using it and its too fast as well but stopped after I read its not secure at all!!!! why have they removed IRIS scanner!
Guys - I am really looking for expert help here as I love this phone and do not want to go back to iPhone as with the issues I am having its highly pointing towards returning this one and buying Apple again......
Thanks in advance!
What firmware do you have?
Face Unlock: disable faster recognition and do won't have issues about it security, the people in YouTube that did the test, made it with this option enabled that is less safe.
I have double tap enabled, for now the screen is no accidentally turned on
Battery is solved in ASCA firmware
erviren said:
Hello Everyone,
Hope I get some help from here, so long story short but not too short:
I moved to S10 Plus after 9 years of Apple phones and now struggling to cop up with few issues on this Samsung device:
- Accidental touches in the pocket - Had to turn off AOD, double tap to wake up and lift to wake (one of the reasons I made a switch lol)
- Batter drain - 1 hour of SOT and phone is down to 80%, killing me as it drains so quickly in standby, every 10 minutes it would drop 1%, on Optimised battery, 50% brightness with Full HD resolutions - tried all other tweaks you mentioned. Only thing I am feeling is that I used SmartSwitch to bring my messages, call history etc from iPhone - if Samsung techies here think that might be the issue then please help me on how to backup my messages etc to do a clean restore (sorry I am new to Android and only know iTunes until now)?
- NO glass protectors - It is a shame that after you spend and buy such an expensive phone, one is unable to protect it with a Glass protector: I read Dome glass protector works but some people mentioned it does not work with fingerprint scanner - also its very costly too , please share your thoughts on how you guys are protecting the screen?
- Face unlock - I was using it and its too fast as well but stopped after I read its not secure at all!!!! why have they removed IRIS scanner!
Guys - I am really looking for expert help here as I love this phone and do not want to go back to iPhone as with the issues I am having its highly pointing towards returning this one and buying Apple again......
Thanks in advance!
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Accidental touches in the pocket
I think it got fixed in the last update, if you're on Snapdragon, Snapdragon unlocked or Carrier Exynos you'll get it a bit later
- Batter drain
Did you follow every single step of the guide? You must be doing something wrong, one of your apps is clearly not giving a f about letting your phone rest, you need to find what is causing the problem, that's how it works on Android phones with more generous RAM management.
- NO glass protectors
They don't really protect anything, if the strike is well delivered both the protector and your display will crack anyway, plus they don't adhere to curved edges and they become a sticky mess.
The Dome costs way too much for what it does, it gives 50% chances of making your fp scanner useless and the protection it offers is limited to scratches, you can find clear TPU protectors for £2 that still protect the display from scratches and allow the fingerprint sensor to work.
- Face unlock
This is a gimmick tech pushed by Apple for easily impressed people that have no notion of security, even with a ToF sensor this is not a valid authentication protocol in any way, rare similar faces, siblings of even different gender and carefully crafted masks with open eyes will unlock it, it also requires more modules and processing power every single time you use it compared to fingerprint sensors.
Some Android OEMs jumped on the face reco tech train to use the trend, Samsung chose to remove the iris sensor to completely abandon it, sure face recognition is still there as in stock Android but it's not meant to be used on this device, there won't be face recognition tech in the future and you should stop using it now.
It's normal to be tempted to return to Apple after such a short period, but you need to be ready to leave the forced comfort zone you were used to.
The "I'm afraid to walk through cold water" phenomenon is why Apple is not losing customers quickly enough, they are not a fair playing company and every other competitor has something better to offer.
I left Apple devices during the iPhone 4s era once I realized that Jailbreaking and Cydia were dying, they all moved to Android, if you are not a completely tech ignorant person then you deserve better than some iOS toy that won't even let you manage files or customize a system properly.
citytrader said:
What firmware do you have?
Android 9, G975FXXU1ASBA with Feb 2019 Security patch.
Face Unlock: disable faster recognition and do won't have issues about it security, the people in YouTube that did the test, made it with this option enabled that is less safe.
Ok thanks
I have double tap enabled, for now the screen is no accidentally turned on
I had to turn it off as accidental touches are there sadly..
Battery is solved in ASCA firmware
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Is there a way I can check ETA for March 2019 update for Australian unlocked version of S10 Plus?
Thanks!
Corv0 said:
Accidental touches in the pocket
I think it got fixed in the last update, if you're on Snapdragon, Snapdragon unlocked or Carrier Exynos you'll get it a bit later
I am on Australian unlocked device, how to check if I have SD or Exynos?
- Batter drain
Did you follow every single step of the guide? You must be doing something wrong, one of your apps is clearly not giving a f about letting your phone rest, you need to find what is causing the problem, that's how it works on Android phones with more generous RAM management.
Yes I tried most of steps from guide, I would dig more into it..
- NO glass protectors
They don't really protect anything, if the strike is well delivered both the protector and your display will crack anyway, plus they don't adhere to curved edges and they become a sticky mess.
The Dome costs way too much for what it does, it gives 50% chances of making your fp scanner useless and the protection it offers is limited to scratches, you can find clear TPU protectors for £2 that still protect the display from scratches and allow the fingerprint sensor to work.
Agree they are sticky mess - Samsung might realise and may release flat screen phone next time its still kind of satisfaction even of little chance to saving your expensive screen from falls, my iPad saved from a fall because of glass protector!
- Face unlock
This is a gimmick tech pushed by Apple for easily impressed people that have no notion of security, even with a ToF sensor this is not a valid authentication protocol in any way, rare similar faces, siblings of even different gender and carefully crafted masks with open eyes will unlock it, it also requires more modules and processing power every single time you use it compared to fingerprint sensors.
Some Android OEMs jumped on the face reco tech train to use the trend, Samsung chose to remove the iris sensor to completely abandon it, sure face recognition is still there as in stock Android but it's not meant to be used on this device, there won't be face recognition tech in the future and you should stop using it now.
I am using Face unlock for now as its faster than on screen FP scanner.
It's normal to be tempted to return to Apple after such a short period, but you need to be ready to leave the forced comfort zone you were used to.
The "I'm afraid to walk through cold water" phenomenon is why Apple is not losing customers quickly enough, they are not a fair playing company and every other competitor has something better to offer.
I don't think I am going back to Apple as I love this display and phone so much and ready to learn the OS and dig into it with the help of you guys Using S10 Plus with S3 Frontier - what else one needs - just love it
I left Apple devices during the iPhone 4s era once I realized that Jailbreaking and Cydia were dying, they all moved to Android, if you are not a completely tech ignorant person then you deserve better than some iOS toy that won't even let you manage files or customize a system properly.
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Android Rocks!
erviren said:
Is there a way I can check ETA for March 2019 update for Australian unlocked version of S10 Plus?
Thanks!
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You can find the update here
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3908710&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
I'm on New Zealand unlocked exynos and flashed that. Just check your csc is in the oxm multi csc list in that thread.
Use Odin with all 4 files using csc home file so you dont lose all your data.
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use the minimum display resolution is definitely your battery problems, i've compared the max and minimum resolution and not only is it such a small (i think, not entirely sure i can see anything i'm not wanting to see hard enough) improvement, if any worthwhile one that you'll never notice the difference anyway.
i can do two full days of moderate use easily with the minimum resolution, with the maximum the percents tick off nearly as fast as the minutes did.
edit: it was around two minutes for every 1% of battery from my experience on maximum.
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use the minimum display resolution is definitely your battery problems, i've compared the max and minimum resolution and not only is it such a small (i think, not entirely sure i can see anything i'm not wanting to see hard enough) improvement, if any worthwhile one that you'll never notice the difference anyway.
i can do two full days of moderate use easily with the minimum resolution, with the maximum the percents tick off nearly as fast as the minutes did.
edit: it was around two minutes for every 1% of battery from my experience on maximum.
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I can clearly see the difference between minimum and FHD resolution and WHD, what's the point in buying so expensive phone if you only using it with 720p resolution in 2019 just to save battery?!! Honestly, I would rather prefer higher resolution than battery....
MRDOCA said:
You can find the update here
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3908710&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
I'm on New Zealand unlocked exynos and flashed that. Just check your csc is in the oxm multi csc list in that thread.
Use Odin with all 4 files using csc home file so you dont lose all your data.
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Thanks but I would wait for another week for official release for Australian variants before trying to flash.
And the March update is here, wohooooo
Hopefully accidental touches would be fixed, let's see
Corv0 said:
- Face unlock
This is a gimmick tech pushed by Apple for easily impressed people that have no notion of security, even with a ToF sensor this is not a valid authentication protocol in any way, rare similar faces, siblings of even different gender and carefully crafted masks with open eyes will unlock it, it also requires more modules and processing power every single time you use it compared to fingerprint sensors.
Some Android OEMs jumped on the face reco tech train to use the trend, Samsung chose to remove the iris sensor to completely abandon it, sure face recognition is still there as in stock Android but it's not meant to be used on this device, there won't be face recognition tech in the future and you should stop using it now.
It's normal to be tempted to return to Apple after such a short period, but you need to be ready to leave the forced comfort zone you were used to.
The "I'm afraid to walk through cold water" phenomenon is why Apple is not losing customers quickly enough, they are not a fair playing company and every other competitor has something better to offer.
I left Apple devices during the iPhone 4s era once I realized that Jailbreaking and Cydia were dying, they all moved to Android, if you are not a completely tech ignorant person then you deserve better than some iOS toy that won't even let you manage files or customize a system properly.
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Had to log in to this ancient account just to call you out on some Android fanboyism.
I have been using tech all my life. On phones I've used Windows Mobile 6, Symbian, Android, Linux, Windows Phone, Windows 10 Mobile and iOS. There is nothing obviously better or worse in Android. For most people, a smartphone nowadays needs to do a few things... social media, pictures, media consumption and calling. There is about zero difference in handling these things between iOS or Android. I am using an iPhone XS Max and the S10+ right now. Practical differences? Well, one has a biometric security lock that works basically 100% of the time, the other some gimmicky under screen ultrasonic fingerprint scanner that is having a ton of issues .
Really, bringing up carefully crafted masks as a security risk :silly:. If you are a regular person, FaceID is going to be secure enough, probably even more secure than fingerprints (easier to get your prints off of something than to do an accurate 3D recreation of your face to create a mask). Don't forget that fingerprint scanners have been fooled plenty as well. If you want security, go use an old fashioned PIN all the time.
I'm sorry man, I understand you like Android and I'm not saying you shouldn't. Just drop it down a notch on the anti Apple stuff. One of the reasons Apple is still very popular is simply because it does what people need it do. It doesn't have all that much to do with people being scared of Android or a change, they just don't feel a need to change.I am probably going to sell the S10+ again. Not because it is a bad phone or Android is so scary to me, but because the iPhone suits my needs already and the S10+ doesn't really do anything much better.
Propanium said:
Had to log in to this ancient account just to call you out on some Android fanboyism.
I have been using tech all my life. On phones I've used Windows Mobile 6, Symbian, Android, Linux, Windows Phone, Windows 10 Mobile and iOS. There is nothing obviously better or worse in Android. For most people, a smartphone nowadays needs to do a few things... social media, pictures, media consumption and calling. There is about zero difference in handling these things between iOS or Android. I am using an iPhone XS Max and the S10+ right now. Practical differences? Well, one has a biometric security lock that works basically 100% of the time, the other some gimmicky under screen ultrasonic fingerprint scanner that is having a ton of issues .
Really, bringing up carefully crafted masks as a security risk :silly:. If you are a regular person, FaceID is going to be secure enough, probably even more secure than fingerprints (easier to get your prints off of something than to do an accurate 3D recreation of your face to create a mask). Don't forget that fingerprint scanners have been fooled plenty as well. If you want security, go use an old fashioned PIN all the time.
I'm sorry man, I understand you like Android and I'm not saying you shouldn't. Just drop it down a notch on the anti Apple stuff. One of the reasons Apple is still very popular is simply because it does what people need it do. It doesn't have all that much to do with people being scared of Android or a change, they just don't feel a need to change.I am probably going to sell the S10+ again. Not because it is a bad phone or Android is so scary to me, but because the iPhone suits my needs already and the S10+ doesn't really do anything much better.
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Shouldn't have logged in your account at all, because there's no fanboyism and you should give another read or two to what I said.
As a fact, I'm only using Android because there is nothing better, I don't like it, even less love it, all these years and it is still a very fragmented and unstable system, I'm using it purely for adaptation, iOS died for me and for anyone else with a brain.
iPhones aren't the only devices with strict face recognition and I have criticized the technology of all of them, not just the one implemented by Apple, so you can tell Tim **** that he sent you here for nothing.
Twins and relatives can still easily fool faceID and youtube is full of reports about that, your face is also EVERYWHERE, and it will never change unless something bad happens to you.
Fingerprints are different, you have many, you can use your toe too if you want, your twins or clones will never have the same replicas and you can alter them yourself at any time.
Ultrasonic fingerprint sensors aren't used only for security and they can be used for health tracking too, even if no implementations have been published regarding that side yet.
It's all about a very versatile emerging technology vs a pure future-less gimmick for people that can't aim with a finger, really nothing else to discuss about it.
I can also see the difference in screen res, spending most of the day working on my phone. Battery is fine with WQHD and screen using adaptive brightness , battery lasts all day for me.
No need to turn resolution down at all none whatsoever
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I wish I could see a difference between the resolutions. Apparently I'm getting old ?
Android as OS doesn’t even adopted on screen fingerprint leave a lone 3D Face ID. Huawei add already 3D Face ID same as iPhone X with mate 20 Pro and it does works way better than unreliable on screen fingerprint that can be hacked with easy even lol. Don’t blame Apple for android failure since android can’t adopt one screen finger print, no true 3D Face ID and no [email protected] adopted on android last and not least there’s no even proper screen colors management unless of android OEM’s add, so fix your staff first then blame Apple lol.
Still cant believe they didn't put a front facing 3d depth camera on this device.
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