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[Q] ZUK Z1 in Canada (4G)

So i am considering buying this phone, but I have only 1 concern about lte on this website: http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_230088.html it says that 4f bands are only:FDD-LTE 1800/2100/2600MHz, so will it work in Canada?? I checked http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/ and It only compatable with 2100, no 1700 is it fine if I only have 1?

Help please!!!

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Any canadians??

I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
- Peace BreadC

Carriers use more than 1 band cause the don't have full coverage with only 1 so sometimes you should have LTE coverage and sometimes don't , I'm in the same dilemma the phone is really good but not having the LTE bands used in US is a deal breaker, I'm waiting to October cause its supposed to be officially released to the US and maybe they'll release a revised version with the LTE bands used here.

Breadcrust said:
I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
- Peace BreadC
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Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.

Kamran9558 said:
Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.

Breadcrust said:
I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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Can you check it? Three use 1800 band and have launched their 800 band recently(not wide spread at the moment) which would improve their indoor 4G coverage, EE already use 800/1800 bands,
I think you can probably check in the service menu.

Mine hasn't come yet, I got scammed on zukphone.cc by a PayPal account called [email protected]. PayPal are investigating but my Dad has a OnePlus One and he has 4G on Three so I can only assume it will work.

Any Canadians bought it???

FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.

stangri said:
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).

Breadcrust said:
I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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It does.
Check on willmyphonework.net

mcgangsta said:
Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).
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Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.

Bump to see if anyone has got it working in canada and with which company.
stangri said:
Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.
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Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.

itskearny said:
Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.
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stangri said:
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (...) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Seriously dude, it's on the same page even.

stangri said:
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Why won't it work on Telus/Koodo? I checked the bands and it has the 3g bands that work on Telus/Koodo.

Verizon compatibility?

Has anyone heard if this model will work on Verizon? All other carriers suck in my area.

I highly doubt that it will, given that none of the previous models have been able to. From my understanding, GSM technology is faster and allows for better connectivity than CDMA networks like Verizon, which is why it is the only type supported by phones made in places other than North America. I could be wrong, but judging by the past I don't think it's very likely

Well they're trying to make this a global phone so if Verizon is CDMA:BC0 then it'll work as that's what it's listed to work on along with 33 others network bands.

AvRS said:
Well they're trying to make this a global phone so if Verizon is CDMA:BC0 then it'll work as that's what it's listed to work on along with 33 others network bands.
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No Band 13 = big problems for Verizon trying to get LTE working normally. It would work on the network I suppose but that is Verizon's main LTE band and also the only one that doesn't overlap with other carriers, like 2 and 4 do.

From the Oneplus website:
LTE/LTE-A
DL 3CA/256QAM, UL CA/64QAM
Supports up to DL CAT12/ UL CAT13(600Mbps/150Mbps) depending on carrier support
depending on carrier support
Bands
FDD LTE: Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/66
TDD LTE: Band 38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39
UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO: BC0
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

again a new phone...again completely ignoring the largest carrier in the US

They came so close... I have Verizon and T-Mobile, so when I get mine I'm going to pop a Verizon SIM in and just see what happens.

geoff5093 said:
They came so close... I have Verizon and T-Mobile, so when I get mine I'm going to pop a Verizon SIM in and just see what happens.
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same here. but it lacks band 13 which is a pretty major one

swieder711 said:
From the Oneplus website:
LTE/LTE-A
DL 3CA/256QAM, UL CA/64QAM
Supports up to DL CAT12/ UL CAT13(600Mbps/150Mbps) depending on carrier support
depending on carrier support
Bands
FDD LTE: Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/66
TDD LTE: Band 38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39
UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO: BC0
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
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So this should work on sprint?

I put my Verizon Sim in my OP5 and it did get signal, but it showed 1x and right above it 3G. I did a quick speedtest and I was at about 1MB/s. I get around 70MB/s with my iPhone. So I guess the answer is that it does work, but it does not work well. I also don't know about MMS, I tried SMS and phone calls and that worked fine.

Will be tested on VZN as soon as mine arrives on Friday, if its not working on Verizon, I will be sending it right back to them.

trentbg said:
Will be tested on VZN as soon as mine arrives on Friday, if its not working on Verizon, I will be sending it right back to them.
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It should function but it DOES NOT have band 13, which was mentioned in a few places now. Considering the price and the potential compromise, it's not worth it.

It has bands 2 and 4 but missing 13. No go for me.
Why is it so hard to add band 13. You have all the rest on there. Idiots.
We Verizon users hate Verizon devices but i will not switch networks. If one plus wants to be a true flagship killer and sell a lot of phones, they should include all bands. Verizon is the biggest network out there.
Thats my opinion.

tolymatev said:
It has bands 2 and 4 but missing 13. No go for me.
Why is it so hard to add band 13. You have all the rest on there. Idiots.
We Verizon users hate Verizon devices but i will not switch networks. If one plus wants to be a true flagship killer and sell a lot of phones, they should include all bands. Verizon is the biggest network out there.
Thats my opinion.
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I totally agree with you my dear Bulgarian friend, makes no sense at all to me. But I will see and give feedback as soon as mine arrives on Friday. I know from a fact that if you live in a fairly big city, band 13 is really not needed, down in ATL I am good with 2 and 4 on all devices. Tested on Mi Mix, which also lacks the band 13, but it has 2 and 4. Anyway I will let you all know on Friday.

trentbg said:
I totally agree with you my dear Bulgarian friend, makes no sense at all to me. But I will see and give feedback as soon as mine arrives on Friday. I know from a fact that if you live in a fairly big city, band 13 is really not needed, down in ATL I am good with 2 and 4 on all devices. Tested on Mi Mix, which also lacks the band 13, but it has 2 and 4. Anyway I will let you all know on Friday.
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yeah, I'm usually on band 4 here in my town, but when I'm in my office building, it does switch to band 13 since it needs that lower frequency to penetrate the building. So I'd imagine I wouldn't have signal or very weak signal in my office. But I'll try it, mine's set to arrive on Friday as well.

co.ag.2005 said:
yeah, I'm usually on band 4 here in my town, but when I'm in my office building, it does switch to band 13 since it needs that lower frequency to penetrate the building. So I'd imagine I wouldn't have signal or very weak signal in my office. But I'll try it, mine's set to arrive on Friday as well.
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Yeah we will have to test, to be honest in the office I am on WiFi so not an issue, but then again are we going to have VoLTE, text and call is questionable.

trentbg said:
Yeah we will have to test, to be honest in the office I am on WiFi so not an issue, but then again are we going to have VoLTE, text and call is questionable.
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yeah, I have wifi at work too, but I wouldn't receive calls or texts (does Verizon send calls/texts over wifi? I don't think they do unless the phone supports that option, which I doubt this one will).

I dont think so too, it will be interesting to find out. I am glad they are going the step forward to include more bands, but VZN strikes again. I am sure even if they added band 13, without VZN whitelisting their IMEIs, its still unusable. We will see.

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So no Verizon compatibility?
Nope. It may look that way because the phone technically supports one of Verizon's legacy CDMA frequencies and a handful of its LTE bands, but OnePlus has no intention of ever officially supporting Verizon.
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So basically no official support but might work.

Pretty much.

LG V20 VS995 in the UK?

I'm in the UK and about to buy a LG V20 VS995 from Hong Kong off of Ebay. Pretty sure I've checked the available frequencies here especially the 800 & 900MHz bands as these are the ones which travel the furthest and are able to penetrate buildings better than the higher frequencies. I've attached a table of the main UK networks and what bands they use. So can anyone let me know I've got this right before I purchase. Many thanks

Hi
I am in the UK also and currently using O2 with no problems. I have also used an EE SIM again with no problems. The only thing you need to be aware that the VS995 will not pick up the SIM APNs automatically, at least that is what I found, so you will need to find the APN for whichever network you use. There are off-line APN finders you can find via Google. Hope this is of some help.
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Ferg8080 said:
I'm in the UK and about to buy a LG V20 VS995 from Hong Kong off of Ebay. Pretty sure I've checked the available frequencies here especially the 800 & 900MHz bands as these are the ones which travel the furthest and are able to penetrate buildings better than the higher frequencies. I've attached a table of the main UK networks and what bands they use. So can anyone let me know I've got this right before I purchase. Many thanks
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Hi, the LG V20 VS995 doesn't support ALL the bands used in the UK. It doesn't support one of the LTE bands used by Vodafone - the 2100Mhz band. So if you're on the Vodafone network, you may find that 4G/LTE speeds might be slightly slower.
I got all of this information from frequencycheck.com and it's usually where I get all my information on the bands that smartphones support.
The best option if you want to get a V20 that supports ALL bands in the UK (at this current time), is the LG V20 H990DS (Taiwanese Version).
That is the variant that I own and it supports every single band used in the UK.
The only other variant that supports all bands is the LG V20 H990N (Hong Kong version), but it only has Cat6 capability as opposed to the H990DS's Cat12 capability. Therefore, the maximum speed you'll be able to get is 300Mbp/s on the H990N - whereas on the H990DS you can get up to 600Mbp/s.
I got this information from techwalls.com/lg-v20-model-numbers-differences/
I hope that helped.

rikstar555 said:
Hi, the LG V20 VS995 doesn't support ALL the bands used in the UK. It doesn't support one of the LTE bands used by Vodafone - the 2100Mhz band. So if you're on the Vodafone network, you may find that 4G/LTE speeds might be slightly slower.
I got all of this information from frequencycheck.com and it's usually where I get all my information on the bands that smartphones support.
The best option if you want to get a V20 that supports ALL bands in the UK (at this current time), is the LG V20 H990DS (Taiwanese Version).
That is the variant that I own and it supports every single band used in the UK.
The only other variant that supports all bands is the LG V20 H990N (Hong Kong version), but it only has Cat6 capability as opposed to the H990DS's Cat12 capability. Therefore, the maximum speed you'll be able to get is 300Mbp/s on the H990N - whereas on the H990DS you can get up to 600Mbp/s.
I got this information from techwalls.com/lg-v20-model-numbers-differences/
I hope that helped.
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I'm not really sure that's true according to gsmarena it does support band 4(1700/2100) admittedly that's not the same as 1(2100). I'm sorry but in my ignorance I don't know . Maybe someone who is more enlightened could tell us what the difference is. See here.
Also the bit about the Cat 6, 9, 12 with LTE does not really bother me. For the VS995 it's LTE-A (3CA) Cat12 600/150 Mbps but for the H990N it's LTE-A (2CA) Cat6 300/50 Mbps. Now I ask you is anyone on this planet going to realistically even touch or even dream of a download speed of 300Mbps on a mobile network. I'm not even remotely getting this on my home fibre and we're watching UHD movies!!

Did find this
LTE Band 1: This is one of the paired bands that was defined for the 3G UTRA and 3GPP rel 99.
LTE Band 4: This LTE band was introduced as a new band for the Americas at the World (Administrative) Radio Conference, WRC-2000. This international conference is where international spectrum allocations are agreed. The downlink of band 4 overlaps with the downlink for Band 1. This facilitates roaming.
I guess I'll soon find out, not sure how though

Ferg8080 said:
Did find this
LTE Band 1: This is one of the paired bands that was defined for the 3G UTRA and 3GPP rel 99.
LTE Band 4: This LTE band was introduced as a new band for the Americas at the World (Administrative) Radio Conference, WRC-2000. This international conference is where international spectrum allocations are agreed. The downlink of band 4 overlaps with the downlink for Band 1. This facilitates roaming.
I guess I'll soon find out, not sure how though
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To be on the safe side, I would just go for the H990N or H990DS. You also don't get the horrible, disgusting Verizon watermarks and logos (software and hardware) if you go with either of the H990 variants. But if you're not going to be using Vodafone, it doesn't really matter - because Vodafone is currently the only UK network that uses B1(2100) for 4G/LTE. Have you already ordered the phone?

i have a h990n in the uk all networks with full 4g

Don't buy CDMA phones for use on GSM carriers, or phones not specific to your region! Though nearly all CDMA phones from Sprint and Verizon in the USA support GSM protocols like 2G: GSM, 3G: UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+, and some LTE bands, they are not always accessible. VS995 doesn't support Vodafone UK's LTE B1. I ran into problems with invalid sims and poor coverage because not all bands were unlocked by Verizon. If you want a V20 save the hassle and buy a GSM unlocked V20: US996, H990, H910 (won't get OTA, so flash H915 KDZ), H915, H918.
More info: https://www.frequencycheck.com/countries/united-kingdom

patato21 said:
Don't buy CDMA phones for use on GSM carriers, or phones not specific to your region! Though nearly all CDMA phones from Sprint and Verizon in the USA support GSM protocols like 2G: GSM, 3G: UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+, and some LTE bands, they are not always accessible. VS995 doesn't support Vodafone UK's LTE B1. I ran into problems with invalid sims and poor coverage because not all bands were unlocked by Verizon. If you want a V20 save the hassle and buy a GSM unlocked V20: US996, H990, H910 (won't get OTA, so flash H915 KDZ), H915, H918.
More info: https://www.frequencycheck.com/countries/united-kingdom
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Had a look at the above link and have got the following compatibility
GSM: 2G, 2.5G 100% (2/2)
UMTS: 3G, 3.5G, 3.5G (4G speed) 100% (2/2)
LTE: 4G 75% (3/4)
So I'm chuffed especially after reading this concerning the band/frequency I'm missing...
2.6GHz frequency band
The 2.6GHz band is the other frequency which was auctioned by Ofcom and it’s essentially the opposite of the 800MHz band. So it’s not great at travelling over long distances, meaning that masts need to be closer together to deliver reliable coverage and as such it’s not so suited to rural areas.
It’s also not all that adept at penetrating walls so indoor signal on the 2.6GHz band won’t always be perfect.
But on the other hand with 35MHz blocks available it has a high capacity. So it can cope with thousands of simultaneous connections, which in that sense makes it a good fit for cities and other busy areas.
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I ordered the phone and hope to get it in the next couple of weeks and I will post back my experiences. I ended up getting it at a good price too

Stransky said:
Hi
I am in the UK also and currently using O2 with no problems. I have also used an EE SIM again with no problems. The only thing you need to be aware that the VS995 will not pick up the SIM APNs automatically, at least that is what I found, so you will need to find the APN for whichever network you use. There are off-line APN finders you can find via Google. Hope this is of some help.
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Out of curiousity were you able to update from Nougat to Oreo? I had a quick preliminary look and didn't see any straightforward method via official channels.

Ferg8080 said:
Out of curiousity were you able to update from Nougat to Oreo? I had a quick preliminary look and didn't see any straightforward method via official channels.
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No, very few American V20 users have been able to update to Oreo as the providers have not released Oreo for the phone. To keep ahead with security updates I use a custom Rom on my V20 (Alpha Rom ) but you need to have the Bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted to use it. Hope this offers some clarity.
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No, very few American V20 users have been able to update to Oreo as the providers have not released Oreo for the phone. To keep ahead with security updates I use a custom Rom on my V20 (Alpha Rom ) but you need to have the Bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted to use it. Hope this offers some clarity.
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Will probably stick with the stock ROM for a while until I'm settled in with the phone. Has choosing the Alpha rom negatively affected the performance of the camera or sound quality at all?
Some of the reasons for getting this phone is the renowned DAC and the camera esp in manual mode (apparently auto could be disappointing).

Ferg8080 said:
Will probably stick with the stock ROM for a while until I'm settled in with the phone. Has choosing the Alpha rom negatively affected the performance of the camera or sound quality at all?
Some of the reasons for getting this phone is the renowned DAC and the camera esp in manual mode (apparently auto could be disappointing).
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No negative affects. Alpha Rom is actually based on the last stock Rom from Verizon with some modifications.
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No negative affects. Alpha Rom is actually based on the last stock Rom from Verizon with some modifications.
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Okay thanks for all your help. I'm expecting to get my phone sometime before Christmas
Just looked at the delivery estimate and it was anywhere between Sept 4th and October??th and it was ordered about 10 days ago. I guess it's to be expected coming from Hong Kong.
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Stransky said:
No, very few American V20 users have been able to update to Oreo as the providers have not released Oreo for the phone. To keep ahead with security updates I use a custom Rom on my V20 (Alpha Rom ) but you need to have the Bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted to use it. Hope this offers some clarity.
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Well picked up my new V20 VS995 today and before I launch myself head long into customising it I've posted some questions in the main thread here I would really appreciate any help you might be able to give. I was going to post it here but I thought that would be unfair to load you with a barrage of questions.
The whole process seems so much more complicated than with my Note 4 and I there is a lot less handholding esp with the AΩ ROM'S initial post. For a relative novice it seems an absolute minefield.

Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the ASUS ROG Phone II's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.

What I'd like to know since it's related to the subject is does anyone think it will work on Verizon given it has most of the bands Verizon needs. I'm cautious about this. Especially with the tencent version because for example, I bought the Razer phone 2 and it was compatible with their imei system, but would not give me more than a random interval of 2sec data, which making a call would kill said data.
I use att but I'd really like to buy the rog 2 and use it on Verizon if I can..

More info if it'll have bands 66 and 71; if VoLTE is supported, if Wifi Calling is supported would be great. Getting conflicting info.

I have the TEncent edition. Is there any app I could use to find out what LTE bands the phone could support?

Cellendril said:
More info if it'll have bands 66 and 71; if VoLTE is supported, if Wifi Calling is supported would be great. Getting conflicting info.
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for chinese 5999 version
band 66 yes
band 71 no
intl version may be the same. information from ASUS taiwan website.

whyou said:
for chinese 5999 version
band 66 yes
band 71 no
intl version may be the same. information from ASUS taiwan website.
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I hope they add Band 71. My Razer Phone 2 sports it:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 1/2/3/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/14/17/18/19/20/26/28/29/30/32/66/71
TDD LTE: 38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: 34/39
LAA: 46
4x4 MIMO: 1/2/3/4/7/30/38/66​

XDAForumMember said:
What I'd like to know since it's related to the subject is does anyone think it will work on Verizon given it has most of the bands Verizon needs. I'm cautious about this. Especially with the tencent version because for example, I bought the Razer phone 2 and it was compatible with their imei system, but would not give me more than a random interval of 2sec data, which making a call would kill said data.
I use att but I'd really like to buy the rog 2 and use it on Verizon if I can..
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This does not currently work with Verizon because the IMEIs are "not certified for use on their network". Asus is probably not going to pay to certify the China model so they might never work.

cellular band tencent version 128 amd 512
does the tencent 128 has a different cellular band with its 512 variant? im curious about it since i cant find any full phone scpecification and comparison of those variants from tencent.

Cellendril said:
More info if it'll have bands 66 and 71; if VoLTE is supported, if Wifi Calling is supported would be great. Getting conflicting info.
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I wish that I could cleanly translate their manual. It has specific volte comments in it bc even though it's in Chinese, some phrases like volte are English.

standupdad said:
I wish that I could cleanly translate their manual. It has specific volte comments in it bc even though it's in Chinese, some phrases like volte are English.
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Translated...
Description: The Nano SIM card slot supports GSM / GPRS / EDGE, WCDMA / HSPA + / DC-HSPA +, FDD-LTE and TD-LTE DSDV network bandwidth. Two Nano SIM cards can simultaneously standby VOLTE 4G call service, but cannot connect two FDD-LTE and TD-LTE mobile data at the same time. Please ask your service operator if your region can support DSDV warnings! Do not use sharp tools or solvents to avoid damage to your phone. ROG Phone (ASUS_1001DA / ASUS_1001DB) requires a SIM card of Nano SIM size, please ask your service carrier. If you cut your SIM card yourself, it may cause a SIM card list.
I don't understand the VoLTE comment. Is that provided on different bands in China than here in the states? Hence why it would be my work here but will in the China?

Bummer, the Asus Rog Phone 2 USA version (ZS660KL-S855P-12G512G-BK) is listed on B&H and still has the same crappy bands listed as the Tencent version.
That means no Verizon, and T-Mobile will not have Band 71 so you won't get the full speeds there either.

RogPhoney said:
Bummer, the Asus Rog Phone 2 USA version (ZS660KL-S855P-12G512G-BK) is listed on B&H and still has the same crappy bands listed as the Tencent version.
That means no Verizon, and T-Mobile will not have Band 71 so you won't get the full speeds there either.
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On the ASUS website the US version is listed as having bands 12 and 66. Those two bands are missing on the Tencent Version. The only missing band on the US release is band 71.
From what I've researched, T-Mobile only uses band 71 in rural areas and is reserving band 71 for 5G. Bands 12 and 66 might just be enough.

I was bummed after hearing no band 71 - which my Razer Phone 2 has - then found out that the place I go regularly in the mountains doesn't use band 71. Must just be my iPhone XS (which has band 71 and an Intel modem) is worse than the RP2.

mzahiri said:
On the ASUS website the US version is listed as having bands 12 and 66. Those two bands are missing on the Tencent Version. The only missing band on the US release is band 71.
From what I've researched, T-Mobile only uses band 71 in rural areas and is reserving band 71 for 5G. Bands 12 and 66 might just be enough.
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Wait.. I thought Tencent version has band 66?

Are you getting band 66 somehow? I have the tencent version and don't receive band 12 or 66. I also looked online again and don't see any mention of band 66.

I think the CN version did not have band 66. The USA version does.

hello any one notice beter reception with phone over older phone you had?

XDAForumMember said:
What I'd like to know since it's related to the subject is does anyone think it will work on Verizon given it has most of the bands Verizon needs. I'm cautious about this. Especially with the tencent version because for example, I bought the Razer phone 2 and it was compatible with their imei system, but would not give me more than a random interval of 2sec data, which making a call would kill said data.
I use att but I'd really like to buy the rog 2 and use it on Verizon if I can..
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I put in my Verizon sim and it registered with 4G+ data worked, called tech support and they put in a form to add the IMEI to the whitelist database.
Takes a few days.
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xyrockrain said:
I have the TEncent edition. Is there any app I could use to find out what LTE bands the phone could support?
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LTE Discovery.
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RogPhoney said:
This does not currently work with Verizon because the IMEIs are "not certified for use on their network". Asus is probably not going to pay to certify the China model so they might never work.
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That is not correct, I contacted Verizon Tier 2 support yesterday after inserting my Verizon sim, it registered on the Network and gave me a 4G+ data signal.
They indicated after giving them my IMEI that it registered on the network and they submitted a form to add it to the database. The process takes about 3 business days.

NA edition on Project Fi / T-Mobile. 2 out of 3 incoming calls I've had today have NOT been delivered successfully to my phone. On one it came through to my computer (gmail / hangouts) and on the other I didn't know until I got the voicemail. My phone didn't ring and shows no missed calls!
Might have to try a different carrier. What US carrier works best with this phone? I really want to keep it!
Edit - Today (the next day) was better. 4 / 4 got through to me. Mysterious!

Pointmanipo said:
That is not correct, I contacted Verizon Tier 2 support yesterday after inserting my Verizon sim, it registered on the Network and gave me a 4G+ data signal.
They indicated after giving them my IMEI that it registered on the network and they submitted a form to add it to the database. The process takes about 3 business days.
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It was correct when I tried, back when there was only the Tencent version of the phone. Is yours the Tencent one or international or US?
skrowl said:
NA edition on Project Fi / T-Mobile. 2 out of 3 incoming calls I've had today have NOT been delivered successfully to my phone. On one it came through to my computer (gmail / hangouts) and on the other I didn't know until I got the voicemail. My phone didn't ring and shows no missed calls!
Might have to try a different carrier. What US carrier works best with this phone? I really want to keep it!
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Did you make sure you don't have Google Voice spam filtering turned on? When I was getting incoming calls from Apple, Google was blocking them all as spam, which caused them to ring in Hangouts on my PC but not on the phone, same as you. See if the numbers show in the voice.google.com call log and if so you can flag them as "not spam" to see if that fixes it.

T-Mobile 7T Pro McLaren device 5G N71 is disabled?

Maybe I'm not reading this correctly, but when I use activity launcher to view what bands are available to enable, band N71 doesn't show as being enabled or a option to enable this. Comparing what shows as 5G on my McLaren vs my 7T show no difference at all between the two connections. Attaching the photo from what I'm looking at

This phone's 5G is currently non-standalone and probably difficult to configure. Or menus haven't kept up with the tech.

Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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chakra said:
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.

sixxkilur said:
I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.

js042507 said:
Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.
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I have not received my 5G device yet; we have only the display McLaren; no Note10+ 5G's in store they are ship to only so I have not tinkered with the devices as of yet. I can take a look at the McLaren when I go in tomorrow and see if there are any settings that have to be enabled. To my understanding it was all done via signal detection and based on the area you are in. I will have a look and get back to you guys.

sixxkilur said:
I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?

aaronc_98 said:
Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?
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Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map

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Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map
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So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?

aaronc_98 said:
So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?
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All three of these are part of 5G
T-Mobile has multiple 5G bands just not all of them are implemented on large scale across the nation yet. For example the millimeter wave spectrum above 24 GHz, it is also referred to as High Band.
"Millimeter wave is incredibly fast, but the signal does not travel very far from the tower and can be disrupted by trees and windows.
We currently have 5G millimeter wave available in 6 major cities.
Speed: Fastest.
Coverage: A couple city blocks."
"Mid Band consists of spectrum between 1 GHz and 8 GHz.
Mid Band has the benefit of being fast while also covering a larger area than millimeter Wave. The breadth of coverage is vast and still delivers a fast experience.
T-Mobile has not yet deployed Mid Band 5G service.
Speed: Fast."
'Low Band consists of spectrum under 1 GHz, this includes our new 600 MHz signal.
Our newest, most powerful 600 MHz low band signal is the foundation of our 5G network. No signal goes farther or is more reliable, so with T-Mobile you’ll get 5G in more places.
Our 600 MHz signal travels several miles from the tower so we have a wide footprint. The signal also penetrates walls and deep inside buildings so it’s better indoors.
Speed: Average.
Coverage: Hundreds of square miles from the tower."

chakra said:
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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The speed difference for you is that drastic that you would return it? Was it purchased outright or you paying monthly into your bill? Curious since speed itsnt my main issue, it's the terrible GPS locking issues.

Looking at the configurations of the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren in the store; the 5G only shows when WiFi is off. All of the other settings is automatic unless they have been changed manually. You can check the main configurations in Settings>Wifi>Sim>Preferred Network.

I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.

savage25rcracer said:
I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.
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At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.

js042507 said:
At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.
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I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time

K4laz said:
I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Thanks for the tip. It didn't work though. :crying:

I got mine on Saturday, and I've had 5G without doing anything. Yeah, there's a few spots where it falls back to 4G LTE, but that's expected. I'm in southern California FYI.

Didn't work for me in Chicago north burbs.

K4laz said:
I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?

savage25rcracer said:
Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?
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I got the latest update on it I live in Grand rapids Michigan
I still use my 6 months old SIM