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The DVP was always the one phone I wanted to own but with all its issues I went ahead and bought an Omnia 7 (now updated to Mango).
I've heard Dell has released a new firmware that addresses all the initial issues so I'm wondering if:
a) all the issues are indeed fixed
b) the camera has been improved as it was pretty much terrible
I would appreciate very honest, objective answers so that I know what to expect.
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a) The stability issues have now been fixed. My phone is now very reliable. (Unfortunately, does not support the new wifi hotspot feature, however).
b) The camera seems to be improved. There's a thread with some pictures below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206192
One of the problems seems to be that the camera doesn't have image stabilisation hardware (which the Samsung phones do have). The suggestion I have found most useful to take better pictures is to tap the screen lightly to take a picture instead of pressing the camera button. (Pressing the camera button shakes the phone and the pictures sometimes turn out blurry).
Also, tweaking the settings helps get better results.
In my opinion, the camera is okay, not great but not terrible either. I think your Samsung will probably take better pictures though.
Thanks, some of these pictures actually look great. My issue is there isn't a new phone announced yet with 32GB storage so I might end up going for a DVP rather than a new and shiny device. We'll see.
camera is worthless.
Deep down I believe you, that phone should really have been a gem.
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Indeed, it needs more effort to keep still when taking a picture e.g. holding your elbows in to your chest and holding the phone with both hands. Also, easier in bright light than dim light as the phone needs to be held still for less time, so less chance of blurry pictures.
If you already have an Omnia, I'd suggest waiting.
The screen, thickness (i.e. bulk) and camera are probably worse on the DVP. The keyboard and storage capacity are better. So it's probably a side-step rather than an upgrade.
I've read about one Mango device so far that appears to be 32GB (unfortunately, Japan / Taiwan only atm):
http://www.phoneshop.co.uk/2011/09/fujitsu-toshiba-is12t-smartphone-review/
It's possible others might be unofficially upgradeable to 32GB - will know once people start using them. The new phones probably have the more powerful GPU too.
Download the Picture Lab app. You can take pictures within the app. It also has an overlay grid and most importantly an image stabilization feature using the phone's gyroscope.
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It also has an overlay grid and most importantly an image stabilization feature using the phone's gyroscope.
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Thanks - looks like a useful app. Unfortunately, I don't think the DVP has a gyroscope.
http://www.wpcentral.com/no-gyroscope-access-current-windows-phones-only-new-mango-devices2
Looks like the new Mango devices can optionally contain a gyroscope, so will probably be easier to get a good picture.
So really they need to release a DVP2.
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So really they need to release a DVP2.
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I am really skeptical of another dvp
While wpcentral reported a rumor of a dell wrigley for india, looking at the specs of the device are really placeholders for a device that is EXTREMELY OLD and it doesn't match the specs from the leak. Furthermore, very reliable contact indicated the wrigley does not EXIST
Unless there was a change in 3 months (which there may be) that ramped up manufacturing of a new device, is is unlikely the device exists...
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I am really skeptical of another dvp
While wpcentral reported a rumor of a dell wrigley for india, looking at the specs of the device are really placeholders for a device that is EXTREMELY OLD and it doesn't match the specs from the leak. Furthermore, very reliable contact indicated the wrigley does not EXIST
Unless there was a change in 3 months (which there may be) that ramped up manufacturing of a new device, is is unlikely the device exists...
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go back to wpcentral and look who sent in that tip!
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go back to wpcentral and look who sent in that tip!
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okay you submitted the tip
and your source is? because (thanks to beta testing) I got some pretty high tips there. I'm not invalidating your sleuthing, but if you take a look at every single page, it is a down grade in specs
Now it is likely that dell is focusing on developing countries in Asia, which is possible (as shown in Japan) but as far as the windows and tablet side, a lot has sort of been scrapped.
And again, it was reiterated in July that the Dell Wrigley does not exist. Further, Dell was making changes to its mobility and tablet strategy to best meet a more diverse demographic.
I'll make sure by dropping a few emails though
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Email dropped. It DOES NOT exist. It's fake! Sorry bro
After the issues I had getting this phone replaced (took over a month) and the fact Dell has completely closed off all of it's North American call centers and all we can get now is india.
Even if there was a DVP2 and it was the best phone on the market bar none, with no problems at all. I wouldn't buy it.
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Funny How my experience w/ Dell is so different. I first bought my Brand new DVP back in Jan.'11 Had problems in Mar.'11 and Dell replaced it with-in the week.. Then Recently(days ago) My DVP had problem that it kept restarting whenever I slide the KB, Dell Replaced it with-in 3days.
No Extra cost.
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Funny How my experience w/ Dell is so different. I first bought my Brand new DVP back in Jan.'11 Had problems in Mar.'11 and Dell replaced it with-in the week.. Then Recently(days ago) My DVP had problem that it kept restarting whenever I slide the KB, Dell Replaced it with-in 3days.
No Extra cost.
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All i'm gonna say is you are lucky.
I haven't had any problems with mine at all and it was manufactured 30th March 2011. I even forced it to upgrade to mango and haven't had any issues.
Even put a generic class10 32gb microSD card in it with no issues so far.
The camera is actually quite good now. Possibly even the best wp7 camera, with the exception of flash photos.
Here are some comparison photos of the DVP and my HD7.
The quality is good if you're a statue. I do not think it has an image stabilization. A slight movement causes the photo to be blurry.
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The camera is actually quite good now. Possibly even the best wp7 camera, with the exception of flash photos.
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The DVP's camera does not compete at all favorably with that of the Mango HTC phones either on quality or features. The new phones feature superior optics (f2.2 lenses), and burst and panorama modes. On top of that, the Titan's is also 8 megapixel.
And once the lights go down, it gets even worse. The DVP's flash is utterly anemic, and introduces a yellow banding effect onto pictures.
The DVP's might be better than the HD7's, but there can't be any serious claim to the best WP7 camera.
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The DVP's camera does not compete at all favorably with that of the Mango HTC phones either on quality or features. The new phones feature superior optics (f2.2 lenses), and burst and panorama modes. On top of that, the Titan's is also 8 megapixel.
And once the lights go down, it gets even worse. The DVP's flash is utterly anemic, and introduces a yellow banding effect onto pictures.
The DVP's might be better than the HD7's, but there can't be any serious claim to the best WP7 camera.
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the titan camera is not all that...even with the major changes htc has done the camera to me is still a smidge above mediocre
Hello. Today I bought a brand new Galaxy S8. Everything was working fine until I decided to test out my camera. It is either wrongly set up or I have a faulty sensor. Take a look at these 2 samples:
http://imgur.com/a/6qGCO
It does gain focus and take a decent pic in very close distance to photographed object. However, when moving it a little bit far, the image gets completely blurry. I have no idea what should I do now, I am kinda disappointed and it's a terrible first impression as for a newly bought phone. Should I return it or shall I tinker with camera app a litle more? The same thing happens in Snapchat so I'd rather opt for camera sensor being faulty
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Hello. Today I bought a brand new Galaxy S8. Everything was working fine until I decided to test out my camera. It is either wrongly set up or I have a faulty sensor. Take a look at these 2 samples:
http://imgur.com/a/6qGCO
It does gain focus and take a decent pic in very close distance to photographed object. However, when moving it a little bit far, the image gets completely blurry. I have no idea what should I do now, I am kinda disappointed and it's a terrible first impression as for a newly bought phone. Should I return it or shall I tinker with camera app a litle more? The same thing happens in Snapchat so I'd rather opt for camera sensor being faulty
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Try downloading another camera app and test to see if you still get the same problems. I'd try the stock Google camera app. I'd be curious to know if you get the same results.
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Try downloading another camera app and test to see if you still get the same problems. I'd try the stock Google camera app. I'd be curious to know if you get the same results.
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I have performed a factory reset through recovery and somehow it fixed the issue, hopefully
Unfortunately i am having the same issue with my s8 plus, i tried resetting through recovery but still having the problem
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I have performed a factory reset through recovery and somehow it fixed the issue, hopefully
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Unfortunately i am having the same issue with my s8 plus, i tried resetting through recovery but still having the problem
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The steps I have done:
On system level:
- clear camera cache
- clear data
- force close
*did not help*
then I booted into recovery, done factory reset, it solved the issue. if it still doesn't work you may need to return it and get replacement :/
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I already returned the first sm-g950f because of the same problem. It started sporadically, restarting the camera app or the phone helped in the first few days. On day 8 I tried factory reset but the camera was still out of focus. Only object closer than 6-7 cm were OK, everything else was blurry. I tested the camera in the *#0*# service menu: blurry.
The second device started showing the same symptoms a few minutes ago. Now focusing to a close object then focusing away helped. I keep monitoring for the next days.
Update:
Day #11: blurry camera, stuck focus in macro for a minute. Refocusing did not help. Closing and starting camera app again, focus now working normally.
Don't have this issue, but in general if there is dirt on the lens, it could affect focus.
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i have the same problem
any help how to slove it?
I have a similar issue, when launching the camera after some time the rear camera is completely out of focus no matter the distance of the object. After "shaking" the phone, it works fine.
Looks like the stabilizer or the autofocus is stuck and the shake fix it. What do you think?
I think I'll contact the support tomorrow
I have the S8+ European version, G955F
Is this okay? I got a blurry back cam for my newly bought s8, but after reading the suggestion to "shake" it, it became clearer. Is this normal? Is this how that is suppose to be?
hi everyone. just want yo share my experience. i bought a brend new s8 at launch . everything ok. but 3 weeks ago it started to give blurry rear cam at times. let say one for five camera app launch..... i called samsung. they told me to bring the phone to them for testing. and eventually replace the camera sensor. oh noooo. never i will accepe an opened s8............the story solved with an ota update the last week. everything ok since
Envoyé de mon SM-G950F en utilisant Tapatalk
Samsung s8 is Rubbish
Bought the phone for my wife as a replacement for her 32GB s6 Edge. After 3 weeks of use this blurry rear camera started occurring. Started with once in awhile and then continued to happen more often. Shaking the phone would get it to work until the next time it faulted. It eventually was occurring every time you would launch the camera app. Searched online and found that there are MANY instances of people all over the world experiencing the same issue and shaking their phones to get the camera to work. Clearly a hardware fault.
Contacted Samsung NZ who proceeded to take me through all the typical troubleshooting steps which I had already followed from online. Eventually did a factory reset to appease them and what do you know, the issue remained and started as soon as I opened the camera app after the factory reset.
Took it to the Vodafone provider who sent it to Samsung. Received the phone back 4 days later (sent Monday, received Friday), the Samsung report states that the camera was replaced and Samsung replicated the issue on the phone. Now the camera will work and won't be blurry as soon as you open the camera app but the pictures are horrible quality. Doing a picture compare between my s6 Edge / Note 5 and the repaired s8. The s8 pictures are of terrible quality.
Very disappointed, $1000 phone, broken after a month of use. I will be taking this up with Samsung again soon.
My theory on why this issue has occurred. Samsung were trying to stick the fingerprint reader in the screen like what the iPhone 8 is doing. Samsung ran out of time and made the bad design decision to stick the fingerprint reader next to the camera. This caused the hardware fault of the blurry camera and proceeds to cause the bad quality of images.
This is not a software fault, it is a hardware fault.
I'm sure Samsung would want to save as much face as they can after the Note 7 incident. As the s8 is the first flagship after the Note 7.
This issue is not limited to the s8, s8 plus users are experiencing the same issue. The Note 8 has been designed the same way and will most likely have the same issue.
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Bought the phone for my wife as a replacement for her 32GB s6 Edge. After 3 weeks of use this blurry rear camera started occurring. Started with once in awhile and then continued to happen more often. Shaking the phone would get it to work until the next time it faulted. It eventually was occurring every time you would launch the camera app. Searched online and found that there are MANY instances of people all over the world experiencing the same issue and shaking their phones to get the camera to work. Clearly a hardware fault.
Contacted Samsung NZ who proceeded to take me through all the typical troubleshooting steps which I had already followed from online. Eventually did a factory reset to appease them and what do you know, the issue remained and started as soon as I opened the camera app after the factory reset.
Took it to the Vodafone provider who sent it to Samsung. Received the phone back 4 days later (sent Monday, received Friday), the Samsung report states that the camera was replaced and Samsung replicated the issue on the phone. Now the camera will work and won't be blurry as soon as you open the camera app but the pictures are horrible quality. Doing a picture compare between my s6 Edge / Note 5 and the repaired s8. The s8 pictures are of terrible quality.
Very disappointed, $1000 phone, broken after a month of use. I will be taking this up with Samsung again soon.
My theory on why this issue has occurred. Samsung were trying to stick the fingerprint reader in the screen like what the iPhone 8 is doing. Samsung ran out of time and made the bad design decision to stick the fingerprint reader next to the camera. This caused the hardware fault of the blurry camera and proceeds to cause the bad quality of images.
This is not a software fault, it is a hardware fault.
I'm sure Samsung would want to save as much face as they can after the Note 7 incident. As the s8 is the first flagship after the Note 7.
This issue is not limited to the s8, s8 plus users are experiencing the same issue. The Note 8 has been designed the same way and will most likely have the same issue.
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that doesnt sound good and i was thinking of getting one too the camera is sumthink i would use alot erm would u say it would be better to get the s7 edge insted of the s8?
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that doesnt sound good and i was thinking of getting one too the camera is sumthink i would use alot erm would u say it would be better to get the s7 edge insted of the s8?
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Yup! Avoid the s8 at all costs. Get the s7! Or wait for the iPhone 8. Depending on preference of course.
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Yup! Avoid the s8 at all costs. Get the s7! Or wait for the iPhone 8. Depending on preference of course.
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thanks for the info ill keep looking not really into iphones tho
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My theory on why this issue has occurred. Samsung were trying to stick the fingerprint reader in the screen like what the iPhone 8 is doing. Samsung ran out of time and made the bad design decision to stick the fingerprint reader next to the camera. This caused the hardware fault of the blurry camera and proceeds to cause the bad quality of images.
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What a horrible theory, you just got a bad phone, ask for a replacement.
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What a horrible theory, you just got a bad phone, ask for a replacement.
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If this wasn't a widespread issue I would think the same. Google "s8 blurry rear camera" and see how many search results it turns up. This isn't a once off. Plenty of people around the world are experiencing the same issue.
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If this wasn't a widespread issue I would think the same. Google "s8 blurry rear camera" and see how many search results it turns up. This isn't a once off. Plenty of people around the world are experiencing the same issue.
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Perhaps, but your theory on why its happening is asinine.
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Perhaps, but your theory on why its happening is asinine.
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Thank you for your most gracious wonderful opinion. It's greatly appreciated.
Same issue here, found that shaking the phone fixed the camera problem but it happens entirely too often. That being said I do have a few energy saving apps and wondering if it is putting the camera components in hibernation until I shake the phone. Anyway, did the OP findnout what was causing his blurriness?
So who is not satisfied with their OnePlus 5 and wants to return is using the 15 day no-hassle return system. If you can please state your reason why.
I'm not returning it, because my unit is not defective, and it's a great phone. Sure, it's not perfect, and the camera isn't that it was hyped to be, but it's still an amazingly snappy phone at a not unreasonable cost.
You should have an option for not returning as that's the question you've asked.
for design reasons '? really ? you guys need a kick on your head...
I'm still testing my phone but for now, i'm really not impressed by the camera. After 7 years of using iPhone i finally decided to buy an Android phone. OnePlus 5 is a beast in terms of performance. But even my iPhone 6 can make better photos sometimes and video recording is all blurry and can't focus at all. If I keep OP5, i will keep it just for near stock android experience but i'm not sure yet. Maybe i will wait for Pixel 2 and hope for some reasonable price.
returned, camera *****
other things ok
Really? You guys knew what the phone was like before you bought it.
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for design reasons '? really ? you guys need a kick on your head...
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Agreed. I mean you saw what the phone looked like before you ordered it...
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Really? You guys knew what the phone was like before you bought it.
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No i didn't know that the camera can be so bad i. I can't record any video without having focus issues. Even the code was Clearer Photos but it's not the case at all.
im very happy with the phone and camera. However, I came from the Honor 8 to this one, so the upgrade was extreme. And both cameras on this phone seem to be working extremely well after the update released yesterday(or saturday?). with that said video recording might still need some tweaking in 4K mode without using a stabilizer aside from that, i have no good reason to return this phone.
i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
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i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
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Seems people was expecting a true DSLR camera on a 500$ phone. Come on people, think about yourself 10 seconds please.
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Seems people was expecting a true DSLR camera on a 500$ phone. Come on people, think about yourself 10 seconds please.
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true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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Totally agree !
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true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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+1
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true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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I think its more that OP made the camera a big selling point. I never really expected it to be as good as the Pixel or S8 but more about a step below. This camera seems to be much much worse than what people were expecting
I hate Samsung and would never buy a galaxy but I have to admit with recent deals, the S8 would be a better phone to buy
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I think its more that OP made the camera a big selling point. I never really expected it to be as good as the Pixel or S8 but more about a step below. This camera seems to be much much worse than what people were expecting
I hate Samsung and would never buy a galaxy but I have to admit with recent deals, the S8 would be a better phone to buy
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Yeah, I agree with you when you say that they made their selling point on the camera. But don't forget the fact that it can change a lot with software update, and maybe we are only at the beginning of a great journey with it. Look, already an update yesterday.
With every iteration of OnePlus, I think it was like this: many updates. to improve software sides of components.
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i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
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s7 edge
submitted an RMA already, Wifi hotspot issue w/ Echo Dot music playback...
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s7 edge
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I had An s7 before the op5 and most definitly its slower/worse battery/camera slow as hell. So sorry but no lol
I waited too long for the 6GB variant but my patience is at the end now. I recently got the Real Me 1 6GB/128 and that phone is pure bull**** in terms of software (kinda love stock os), crappy iOS looks, bad features like can't see battery sot, no unlock bootloader option for OPPO phones etc. I returned it back to Amazon.
I'm still waiting for the 6GB variant, I already had Redmi Note 5 pro so I wouldn't get that same device again, tired of miui and flashing roms so gave it to my bro.
Should I wait or get the 4GB? 6GB phone launch timeline was Mid June but I don't see it in next sale too. I know nobody knows that in real but I'm desperate to get a new phone. Help or suggestions please? Next phone is Mi A2 which will also be stock Android but no idea when it will be released.
I'm waiting too for the 6gb variant, read somewhere that they started production of the 6gb variant after announcing it, so I guess will take a while, I'm going for the 4gb variant this Thursday because can't wait any longer now!
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I'm waiting too for the 6gb variant, read somewhere that they started production of the 6gb variant after announcing it, so I guess will take a while, I'm going for the 4gb variant this Thursday because can't wait any longer now!
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I think I can't wait anymore too. I'm sure I'll regret getting the 4GB model and later will get the 6GB at a loss of selling the older one. Still trying to control myself.
I wish we had more such phones on stock Android.
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I think I can't wait anymore too. I'm sure I'll regret getting the 4GB model and later will get the 6GB at a loss of selling the older one. Still trying to control myself.
I wish we had more such phones on stock Android.
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agreed, I'd have taken realme1 in a heartbeat had it have unlockable bootloader or stock android out of the box.
I too know I'll regret not going for the high end model because the processor is weak and I'm coming from a snapdragon 820 so it'll feel slow for sure, atleast 6gb ram would be a good thing if I could get it
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agreed, I'd have taken realme1 in a heartbeat had it have unlockable bootloader or stock android out of the box.
I too know I'll regret not going for the high end model because the processor is weak and I'm coming from a snapdragon 820 so it'll feel slow for sure, atleast 6gb ram would be a good thing if I could get it
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Let's hope we could get one each in the upcoming sale. Good luck.
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Let's hope we could get one each in the upcoming sale. Good luck.
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Wait for the 6GB version. I have a 3 GB version and am regretting the buy. The software is down right pathetic and buggy. There are stutters all over,its super laggy. I mean, its to the point of being disgusting. The cameras are beyond pathetic. I heard they have a different module on the 6gb version. Also the battery is crappy. The launcher is ****load of crap. And their official forum "zentalk" is well....crap!! I mean, spend your money some where else if you can or wait for the release of Lenovo z5 or Mi8 SE. Telling you guys, dont buy this piece of junk.
Also, My main driver is the OP6, so I suppose this brick's performance comes out even ****tier. Sad part is cashify does not give on offer for this paper weight and for selling on ebay, you require GSTIN. My two cents......Stay away from ASUS only.
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Wait for the 6GB version. I have a 3 GB version and am regretting the buy. The software is down right pathetic and buggy. There are stutters all over,its super laggy. I mean, its to the point of being disgusting. The cameras are beyond pathetic. I heard they have a different module on the 6gb version. Also the battery is crappy. The launcher is ****load of crap. And their official forum "zentalk" is well....crap!! I mean, spend your money some where else if you can or wait for the release of Lenovo z5 or Mi8 SE. Telling you guys, dont buy this piece of junk.
Also, My main driver is the OP6, so I suppose this brick's performance comes out even ****tier. Sad part is cashify does not give on offer for this paper weight and for selling on ebay, you require GSTIN. My two cents......Stay away from ASUS only.
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That's a very strong review of the phone. I have been using it for more than a month ago and while it doesn't compare to the fastness and quality of the OP6, the Zenfone Pro M1 is a remarkable phone.. The software is definitely not buggy or lagging, the cameras are definitely good in this price range (maybe the front camera is not upto the mark), battery is defintely good giving about 10 hours SOT/2days moderate use. ZENtalk is definitely crap - that's why we have XDA and the launcher can always be replaced with NOVA or LAWNCHAIR. Either you have got a defective phone or you are just trying to bad mouth a very good value for money phone.
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That's a very strong review of the phone. I have been using it for more than a month ago and while it doesn't compare to the fastness and quality of the OP6, the Zenfone Pro M1 is a remarkable phone.. The software is definitely not buggy or lagging, the cameras are definitely good in this price range (maybe the front camera is not upto the mark), battery is defintely good giving about 10 hours SOT/2days moderate use. ZENtalk is definitely crap - that's why we have XDA and the launcher can always be replaced with NOVA or LAWNCHAIR. Either you have got a defective phone or you are just trying to bad mouth a very good value for money phone.
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Stop being a fanboy, no good comes out of such an attitude. And stop making these insinuations. If you don't agree then say so and leave it at that. Now coming back to the point.Its not remarkable, its down right pathetic. It stutters everywhere except the App drawer. Gosh even the dialer stutters. The google cards stutter,Facebook....don't even get me started on that. Cameras are pathetic and nothing can improve that situation, not even GCAM. It can certainly make it it better but to a limited extent. The battery is not optomized at all. SOT is around 7-8 hours on avg, but the question, that quite pathetic from a 5000 Mah battery. Finger print and Face Unlock is also pathetic and it speaks volume that they had to release three updates to make it work and still can't get them to work properly. My two cent. take it or leave it.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/06/21/6gb-ram-asus-zenfone-max-pro-m1-seen-on-flipkart/
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I waited too long for the 6GB variant but my patience is at the end now. I recently got the Real Me 1 6GB/128 and that phone is pure bull**** in terms of software (kinda love stock os), crappy iOS looks, bad features like can't see battery sot, no unlock bootloader option for OPPO phones etc. I returned it back to Amazon.
I'm still waiting for the 6GB variant, I already had Redmi Note 5 pro so I wouldn't get that same device again, tired of miui and flashing roms so gave it to my bro.
Should I wait or get the 4GB? 6GB phone launch timeline was Mid June but I don't see it in next sale too. I know nobody knows that in real but I'm desperate to get a new phone. Help or suggestions please? Next phone is Mi A2 which will also be stock Android but no idea when it will be released.
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Is asus is planning to remove 6GB variant ?
they removed it from their website there is no sign of 6gb variant in indian official website
https://www.asus.com/in/Phone/ZenFone-Max-Pro-ZB601KL/Tech-Specs/
mehtasu said:
Stop being a fanboy, no good comes out of such an attitude. And stop making these insinuations. If you don't agree then say so and leave it at that. Now coming back to the point.Its not remarkable, its down right pathetic. It stutters everywhere except the App drawer. Gosh even the dialer stutters. The google cards stutter,Facebook....don't even get me started on that. Cameras are pathetic and nothing can improve that situation, not even GCAM. It can certainly make it it better but to a limited extent. The battery is not optomized at all. SOT is around 7-8 hours on avg, but the question, that quite pathetic from a 5000 Mah battery. Finger print and Face Unlock is also pathetic and it speaks volume that they had to release three updates to make it work and still can't get them to work properly. My two cent. take it or leave it.
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Ahh..well! I gave you my experience. You are free to take it whatever way you want. Maybe you should go through some youtube videos about the Zenfone Max Pro M1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqy6H_NpjL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvPnRPTAI
Maybe according to you, they are fanboys too.. Anyways “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"....So, I am out of here.. Cheers!
spunxhoe said:
Ahh..well! I gave you my experience. You are free to take it whatever way you want. Maybe you should go through some youtube videos about the Zenfone Max Pro M1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqy6H_NpjL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvPnRPTAI
Maybe according to you, they are fanboys too.. Anyways “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"....So, I am out of here.. Cheers!
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Well, sadly all these review are worthless. They are more concerned about opening the app rather than the experience while using the APP. There is lag and stutter everywhere from the dialer, to google cards to facebook. Everything lags and its horrendous. Anyways, I know how to put in place people who are results of worthless procreation between individuals who were clearly not thinking properly at the time. . Cheers!!
mehtasu said:
Well, sadly all these review are worthless. They are more concerned about opening the app rather than the experience while using the APP. There is lag and stutter everywhere from the dialer, to google cards to facebook. Everything lags and its horrendous. Anyways, I know how to put in place people who are results of worthless procreation between individuals who were clearly not thinking properly at the time. . Cheers!!
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can you please at least record it when it stutters?
i dont have any stutters problem when using facebook and dialer (and other apps too)
and i dont think its laggy
maybe you have a deffect phone?
sorry for my bad english
aslam31319 said:
Is asus is planning to remove 6GB variant ?
they removed it from their website there is no sign of 6gb variant in indian official website
https://www.asus.com/in/Phone/ZenFone-Max-Pro-ZB601KL/Tech-Specs/
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I think the same, it seems they just fake promised the 6GB model. Anyway, I got Redmi Note 5 pro in the meantime back from my cousin ( just unlocked the bootloader and will flash custom rom to get rid of MIUI) will use it till Asus releases the 6GB version if EVER in future. I think I will be old, get married and couple of kids waiting for this phone.
mehtasu said:
Well, sadly all these review are worthless. They are more concerned about opening the app rather than the experience while using the APP. There is lag and stutter everywhere from the dialer, to google cards to facebook. Everything lags and its horrendous. Anyways, I know how to put in place people who are results of worthless procreation between individuals who were clearly not thinking properly at the time. . Cheers!!
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Don't blame Asus, blame Android. Even my Google pixel 2 XL sometimes take blind pictures cause of ram issues or reload apps. I can feel your pain, anything below 4GB ram is unacceptable in today's standard. That's one of the reason I'm waiting for 6GB variant.
I'm actually sold for a 15k phone with near about stock Android. If there's Mi A2 by Xiaomi before Asus releasing it, I will forget Asus and buy that phone.
I have the 2023 version running 10.5.11.IN11AA and I have the photochrome tab but when I switch to it I just get the regular camera view (no effect at all), screenshot included.
From what I gathered, the IN2023 model should still have the photochrome filter, and in any case the fact that it's there but does nothing seems weird to me.
ideas?
EDIT: nvm, it's just so weak now that I haven't noticed that it does anything. Shame.
Oneplus just released a patch with the latest update disabling the camera responsible for the filter because it had the potential to see through certain fabrics and plastics.
AppEx213 said:
I have the 2023 version running 10.5.11.IN11AA and I have the photochrome tab but when I switch to it I just get the regular camera view (no effect at all), screenshot included.
From what I gathered, the IN2023 model should still have the photochrome filter, and in any case the fact that it's there but does nothing seems weird to me.
ideas?
EDIT: nvm, it's just so weak now that I haven't noticed that it does anything. Shame.
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those days are gone , you better sell your phone like im doing and buy huawei or samsung ultra or wait for note 20
Stop talk about what you don't know, oneplus has not disabled the sensor. Now it use the 48mp camera together with the 5mp camera to capture the colors and create the filter
alleshi said:
those days are gone , you better sell your phone like im doing and buy huawei or samsung ultra or wait for note 20
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DavideRodeo said:
Stop talk about what you don't know, oneplus has not disabled the sensor. Now it use the 48mp camera together with the 5mp camera to capture the colors and create the filter
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The 48MP + filter combination is useless, I couldn't care less about the colors, I wanted to just check how the "xray" camera looks like. That said, I'm not going to sell the phone just because they disabled a camera. I still think it is the best Android phone right now, and if you bought it just for a 5MP filter camera you should reconsider your consumer choices.
The photo filter works. Needs more light. So basically works only outside. Details it takes now is lot better than 5mp camera before it, buy requires lot light since sensivity is on high range. And sell the phone just coz some filter is not working and downgrade to other android phone by paying more, that's just st....
alleshi said:
those days are gone , you better sell your phone like im doing and buy huawei or samsung ultra or wait for note 20
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That's pitiful advice.
Sell the most developed for and fastest android device in the world to buy the slowest and most locked down device in the world..
Cool story bro
dladz said:
That's pitiful advice.
Sell the most developed for and fastest android device in the world to buy the slowest and most locked down device in the world..
Cool story bro
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i was just joking mate
but i'll take your advise and keep it
the phone is great i must admit it
fast good battery great performance etc etc
dladz said:
That's pitiful advice.
Sell the most developed for and fastest android device in the world to buy the slowest and most locked down device in the world..
Cool story bro
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Hahah, most developed phone... not in 10 lifes, fastest android device YES, but it's far away form developed phone... lets start with low light screen calibration...
OnePlus 8 Pro is the worst flagship device that I ever had...
alleshi said:
i was just joking mate
but i'll take your advise and keep it
the phone is great i must admit it
fast good battery great performance etc etc
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Lol soz
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Vecera said:
Hahah, most developed phone... not in 10 lifes, fastest android device YES, but it's far away form developed phone... lets start with low light screen calibration...
OnePlus 8 Pro is the worst flagship device that I ever had...
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Then sell it and stop moaning!! Do us all a favour. If you didn't research it then that's your fault.
Also if it's not the most developed phone at this time? Amongst flagships, please elaborate with all your wisdom what is??
Just got the dreaded update to 10.
Simply disregarded it then took to Twitter to tear OnePlus a new bum hole.
Poor judgement and poor decisions by OnePlus.
I'll not be taking it until they sort their heads up out
I am disappointed.
Does anyone know how to get it back on the latest firmware?