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Quick Charge 2.0 Accessories

I know Google mentioned the 6P can charge quickly, but I don't recall hearing anything saying "QuickCharge 2.0 compatible". If it is compatible, which accessories are recommended? Based on a quick Amazon search, I've found:
Car Charger
Would it be possible to pair this with a USB A to USB C cable? I need to purchase all new adapters as I was relying on Qi charging pads. I need many new adapters, and just need to know which ones to purchase. Thanks!

I was wondering the same. The charger is 5v/3A rather than variable voltage
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Yea... I have the same question.. I have a couple quick charge 2.0s.. can I get a standard usb to usb-c adapter like https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable and plug it into quickcharge and will i get quickcharge capabilities?

I have the same question, i think we have to wait some guys to receive the sample and confirm if the Nexus 6P support qualcomm quick charge 2.0
for the car charger, here is my recommend.
You don't need to get another type c cable, just plug and charge.

Didn't Qualcomm announce quick charge 3.0 too?
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Cheater912 said:
Didn't Qualcomm announce quick charge 3.0 too?
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coming with the 820, I believe

This phone supports USB 3.1 and USB Type-C so therefore it supports the new usb power delivery spec which is capable of up to 100w. If I were to bet money, I would say google is referring to this as "quick charging", not to be confused with Qualcom's implemntation.
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...its-way-alongside-usb-3-1s-10gbit-performance

Doesn't have 3.1. Still 2.0
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Google has stated it does not support QuickCharge 2.0 but just the faster charging that USB C allows for.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
This phone supports USB 3.1 and USB Type-C so therefore it supports the new usb power delivery spec which is capable of up to 100w. If I were to bet money, I would say google is referring to this as "quick charging", not to be confused with Qualcom's implemntation.
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...its-way-alongside-usb-3-1s-10gbit-performance
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Not all USB type c devicess have to support 3.1 and power delivery. The 6p supports neither.
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donatom3 said:
Not all USB type c devicess have to support 3.1 and power delivery. The 6p supports neither.
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You are correct, some tech sites were originally posted that this phone supported USB3. Its now been confirmed that its only USB 2.

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Not all USB type c devicess have to support 3.1 and power delivery. The 6p supports neither.
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You say that the 6P doesn't support "power delivery". How is Google providing 15W to the phone via it's Type-C charger? From what I understand, the pins for Vbus in the Type-C cable/plug is the only way to provide that power? As you can see, I'm a little confused.

CNLiberal said:
You say that the 6P doesn't support "power delivery". How is Google providing 15W to the phone via it's Type-C charger? From what I understand, the pins for Vbus in the Type-C cable/plug is the only way to provide that power? As you can see, I'm a little confused.
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Maybe they used their magic to find a better way to do it

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Now I'm totally confused... so this doesn't support the same quick charging that's in the current line of micro USB phones, such as the Note 5 and S6? And it doesn't take advantage of the newer USB type C technology that allows for faster charging? So how the heck does it provide a "quick charge" for a quick boost in battery?

Here is a great article explaining Quick Charge and why the 2015 Nexus devices (possibly) do not have it; link

opt05 said:
Here is a great article explaining Quick Charge and why the 2015 Nexus devices (possibly) do not have it; link
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This was incredibly informative, thank you!!!!!!!!!

CNLiberal said:
You say that the 6P doesn't support "power delivery". How is Google providing 15W to the phone via it's Type-C charger? From what I understand, the pins for Vbus in the Type-C cable/plug is the only way to provide that power? As you can see, I'm a little confused.
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I think the wikipedia page may have been missing something important in what I quoted from them. That "Power Delivery 2.0" doesn't have to be supported for a Type-C cable. Based on the wattage of the new chargers though it does look like Power Delivery 2.0 is being used, just not the full 100 watts that Power Delivery 2.0 does support, but it's definitely over the 7.5 watt limit of usb 3.0.
What's important to note is that Power Delivery 2.0 can be supported on Type C cables with usb 2.0.

opt05 said:
Here is a great article explaining Quick Charge and why the 2015 Nexus devices (possibly) do not have it; link
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Helpful article, just not news I wanted to read.
I have 3 QC 2.0 adapters, and 1 QC 2.0 car charger. Luckily, I did just purchase this http://amzn.com/B0146FK3G0 for $12 using a coupon code. This should charge the Nexus 6P at 15W since it's a native USB-C charger, with an additional QC 2.0 port. Just need to find another wall adapter now.

Powell730 said:
Helpful article, just not news I wanted to read.
I have 3 QC 2.0 adapters, and 1 QC 2.0 car charger. Luckily, I did just purchase this http://amzn.com/B0146FK3G0 for $12 using a coupon code. This should charge the Nexus 6P at 15W since it's a native USB-C charger, with an additional QC 2.0 port. Just need to find another wall adapter now.
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The specs say that the Type-C port only does 5V/2.4A (12W) so you're not going to get fast charging off of that on your 6P (which needs 15W). You need to find something that does 5V/3A over Type-C.

Car Charger with 5V/3A

Does anyone know of a car charger, preferable with proper Type C ports or attached cable that actually does 5V/3A? Most I've seen are 2.4A and often only with Quickcharge voltages (e.g., 9V, 15V).
I see this one from JOTO but it's not available until December: http://www.amazon.com/Charger-JOTO-Attached-Adapter-OnePlus/dp/B0179HN184

ChronoReverse said:
Does anyone know of a car charger, preferable with proper Type C ports or attached cable that actually does 5V/3A? Most I've seen are 2.4A and often only with Quickcharge voltages (e.g., 9V, 15V).
I see this one from JOTO but it's not available until December: http://www.amazon.com/Charger-JOTO-Attached-Adapter-OnePlus/dp/B0179HN184
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This one by Tronsmart is Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified. I have it bookmarked.

ChronoReverse said:
Does anyone know of a car charger, preferable with proper Type C ports or attached cable that actually does 5V/3A? Most I've seen are 2.4A and often only with Quickcharge voltages (e.g., 9V, 15V).
I see this one from JOTO but it's not available until December: http://www.amazon.com/Charger-JOTO-Attached-Adapter-OnePlus/dp/B0179HN184
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You could also take a look at:
http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-5...tablet-Google-Chromebook-Pixel-p-1008254.html
OR
http://www.banggood.com/YooBao-5_2V...r-Charger-Adapter-for-Cellphone-p-996565.html
I to have been looking for a Type C car charger these seem to be the best i could fine with 5v 3A Type C output, it may help you out.
Cheers.

Does anyone know of an A to C adapter that's been approved to get us by until these C chargers are more available?

ChronoReverse said:
Does anyone know of a car charger, preferable with proper Type C ports or attached cable that actually does 5V/3A? Most I've seen are 2.4A and often only with Quickcharge voltages (e.g., 9V, 15V).
I see this one from JOTO but it's not available until December: http://www.amazon.com/Charger-JOTO-Attached-Adapter-OnePlus/dp/B0179HN184
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Please search before creating a new OP. A car charger OP already exists here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/car-charger-nexus-6p-t3214316

subhani said:
This one by Tronsmart is Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified. I have it bookmarked.
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It's not 100% legit, look at the response by the Google Engineer:
Hi, Benson again reviewing USB Type-C accessories. After many requests, I am finally reviewing the Tronsmart 36W 2 Port Car charger.
The Tronsmart 2 port car charger has one green USB Type-A port on top, and then a USB Type-C captive cable, meaning it has a Type-C plug on one end, and the other end cannot be removed from the charger.
For this review, I am going to focus closely on the Type-C captive cable. For my analysis I am using my Chromebook Pixel 2015 and my USB PD Sniffer device (search chromium.org for twinkie), also available here : Plugable USB 3.1 Type-C (USB-C) Power Delivery Sniffer
According to the USB PD sniffer, the CC line on the charger connected via the captive cable is pulled up to Vbus using a 10kΩ resistor. According to the USB Type C specification Section 4.11.1, this indicates to the device being charged that this power source is capable of supplying 5V 3A.
However, please look carefully at the rating text on the side of the charger. I have attached a picture of it. It says "Output(each port): DC 5V/2.4A"
This means that the tronsmart charger is using the incorrect CC pullup, as the charger itself is not rated at 3A.
When I plugged in my somewhat discharged Chromebook Pixel 2015, the Pixel would not charge (my twinkie current meter measured 0mA current), and it appeared that the charger itself had browned out. The Chromebook Pixel made a high pitched squealing sound until I disconnected it from the charger.
As an experiment, I also tried connecting Pixel to the Tronsmart's OTHER usb port using a compliant (56kΩ terminated) USB A-C cable. Using the other port, the Pixel charged properly.
In conclusion, this charger is using the wrong CC termination given its rating of only being able to handle 5V 2.4A out of each port. Fast charging Type-C devices like the Chromebook Pixel may try to pull 3.0A out of the captive cable, improperly browning out the charger.
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Good spot, man.

I just bought this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
It came from China. It just came Friday or Saturday but I haven't tested it out yet.
Someone in a review said it wasn't charging theirs "rapidly" with their 5x but some people responded saying he was probably using USB a to C cable and someone else said they used this charger with their 6p with googles USB-C cable and it was charging rapidly.

Can we move this discussion over to the original very charger OP. Also let's try to not create duplicate OPs since this is the 3rd one I've had to report today.

Yup, no need for multiple threads discussing the same thing. Please bring the discussion here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/car-charger-nexus-6p-t3214316
Thanks! And thread closed.
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Quick charge 2.0 or 2A charger?

Which one will charge faster?

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Which one will charge faster?
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Depends on which class quick charger. It can go up to 3 amps I believe.

Either one will only charge up to 1.5A, considering they both use chargers with a USB Type-A port (the traditional rectangular port). This phone doesn't support Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0.
If you want the faster 3A charging mode, you'll need a charger with a USB Type-C connector and a cable with USB Type-C connectors on both ends.
While the marketing says this is "fast-charging" It's actually part of the USB Type-C specifications.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3221676

Devhux said:
Either one will only charge up to 1.5A, considering they both use chargers with a USB Type-A port (the traditional rectangular port). This phone doesn't support Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0.
If you want the faster 3A charging mode, you'll need a charger with a USB Type-C connector and a cable with USB Type-C connectors on both ends.
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Thanks for your explanation. I thought pairing a 3A USB-A charger with a USB-A-to-C cable will still work, but in reality it's limited to 1.5A which baffled me a lot. Now I know the reason... Goddamn Google, there's no way I could buy a second original charger set in my country!
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AndyYan said:
Thanks for your explanation. I thought pairing a 3A USB-A charger with a USB-A-to-C cable will still work, but in reality it's limited to 1.5A which baffled me a lot. Now I know the reason... Goddamn Google, there's no way I could buy a second original charger set in my country!
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Yeah its kind of lame. Supposedly its where all android devices are headed, but not very helpful for us 6p owners right now. I got a good car charger USB C cable that charges it as quick as the stock charger through amazon for only $13(prime member). I also use a USB 3.0 A to USB 3.1 C cable on a charger that supports quick charge and it goes up to 1700 amps which is almost two thirds of stock.

QC 2.0 hardware is present on the Nexus 6P
So does anyone, then, know why QuickCharge 2.0 isn't supported, despite that the hardware necessary for supporting it IS available?
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6P+Teardown/51660?revisionid=HEAD
If you head down to Step 14, you can see that this device does, in fact, support the SMB1351 that is the power management piece necessary for QC 2.0.
Do we just assume that it's disabled in the firmware of the device?
Devhux said:
Either one will only charge up to 1.5A, considering they both use chargers with a USB Type-A port (the traditional rectangular port). This phone doesn't support Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0.
If you want the faster 3A charging mode, you'll need a charger with a USB Type-C connector and a cable with USB Type-C connectors on both ends.
While the marketing says this is "fast-charging" It's actually part of the USB Type-C specifications.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3221676
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AndyYan said:
Thanks for your explanation. I thought pairing a 3A USB-A charger with a USB-A-to-C cable will still work, but in reality it's limited to 1.5A which baffled me a lot. Now I know the reason... Goddamn Google, there's no way I could buy a second original charger set in my country!
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XxMORPHEOUSxX said:
Yeah its kind of lame. Supposedly its where all android devices are headed, but not very helpful for us 6p owners right now. I got a good car charger USB C cable that charges it as quick as the stock charger through amazon for only $13(prime member). I also use a USB 3.0 A to USB 3.1 C cable on a charger that supports quick charge and it goes up to 1700 amps which is almost two thirds of stock.
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Can I use regular 2A charger with N6p?

There are no many adapters on the market and I couldn't find original huawei adapter. Can I use a regular adapter (samsung 2A for example) with my Nexus?
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Yes, but you must use a certified cable. Check Benson Leung's reviews on Amazon to find a good one or use the cable provided in the box.
However you can buy original charger from Google Store or a valid alternative from Amazon like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Type-..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1461623244&sr=1-1
If I understand correctly some articles USB A chargers doesn't support type-c power profile, so the phone will charge at a constant rate without lowering amperage to be gentle with the battery. Furthermore the quick charge is a very useful feature, so I suggest you to buy a compatible charger.

Absolutely. Just be aware that charging of the Nexus 6P/5X is limited to 1.5A over a proper USB Type-A to USB Type-C cable. With a USB Type-C to USB Type-C cable and a Type-C charger, it charges at up to 3A (as it does with the official charger).
So if you're worried about speed of charging, you may want to get yourself a new USB Type-C charger, as a Type-A charger will take about twice as long! (a 3A USB Type-C charger takes about 90 minutes) Personally, I just have a USB Type-A charger by my bed, since it will definitely finish charging while I sleep. Then I keep the original charger in my work bag, in case I need to quickly recharge during the day!
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If I understand correctly some articles USB A chargers doesn't support type-c power profile, so the phone will charge at a constant rate without lowering amperage to be gentle with the battery. Furthermore the quick charge is a very useful feature, so I suggest you to buy a compatible charger.
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I don't know if that's the case, but if it is, I'm not sure it matters. With the USB Type-C charger it's drawing 3A and then lowers as the battery gets full, but I don't know how low it gets. Whereas a USB Type-A charger will be drawing 1.5A maximum, so it may not even need to lower.

Any good USB type A charger that you can recommend?
I Have a good opinion about Samsung adaptive charger that my wife uses with her note edge.
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I am partial to Anker brand chargers. I would suggest the PowerPort 2 (as I own a couple), it is capable of charging two devices at up to 2.4A each (while the Nexus 6P can only draw 1.5A, iPads can draw the full 2.4A because of their proprietary tech). But as you can see on the Anker website, they have a ton of different options!

Quick Charge specs? Outlet?

So what do we call the "Quick Charge" that was used for the Nexus 6P? I know it wasn't the same as the quick charge in other phones at the time and it was kind of proprietary when it came out.
The reason I ask is because I need a new charger, but I was curious if there was a wall outlet (with usb ports) that would do the same thing.....Most of the wall outlets say 2.1amp 3.1amps or 4amps, which I assume is divided between the 2 ports if both are in operation. I also have a Nexus 9 so I'd like to be able to charge that.
Any tips or info on what specs I need to look for?

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So what do we call the "Quick Charge" that was used for the Nexus 6P? I know it wasn't the same as the quick charge in other phones at the time and it was kind of proprietary when it came out.
The reason I ask is because I need a new charger, but I was curious if there was a wall outlet (with usb ports) that would do the same thing.....Most of the wall outlets say 2.1amp 3.1amps or 4amps, which I assume is divided between the 2 ports if both are in operation. I also have a Nexus 9 so I'd like to be able to charge that.
Any tips or info on what specs I need to look for?
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You can look over in the Accessories sub-forum where there is plenty of charger and cable discussion, but basically the 6P does not support the quick charge standard and ANY charger or cable that uses a USB-A port will NOT rapid charge your phone. You need a charger that either has a USB-C female outlet or integrated (non-removable) USB-C cable that supports the USB-C 5V-3A standard. That is the only way the phone will rapid charge. The N9 does not support the quick charge or turbo charge standards either. Mine came with 1.5A charger. You just need a good 5V charger that puts out at least 1.5A and the tablet will safely limit the input amperage. Since you have two devices to charge, you may consider a charger that has both a USB-C and USB-A port.