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reasons for buying the i9000 Galaxy S

Hey guys,
I'm not that pretty sure anymore about the phone.
My main PRO is the big screen and Android.
The main CON is: Samsung...
My friends, who already owned a Samsung warned me.
One of them said:"I'll give you 3 month till you send it back, because it's not working anymore."
The missing camera LED, notification LED and the update policy of Samsung are reinforcing my concerns.
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?

iPhone - don't like the platform and Apple condescending BS.
Desire - have one currently, excellent phone, reasoning for trying the Galaxy S - better graphics prowess (I like gaming), TV Out & DLNA, more storage space for app installation, WiFi tether, DivX, the screen - both better display characteristics and multitouch, better audio SQ.
EDIT: Oh, and the Desire's bluetooth implementation is anoying with peripherals like keyboards/controllers/heart rate monitors.

You dont need to go for htc or apple. There's the new motorola coming out that also has Arm cpu
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xt720-hands-on-video-0788530/
I'm loving the cam on it.. and build quality.. but not super amoled but apparently they have great screens (motorola droids)
i still want the galaxy but build quality is worrying..
edit: just doesn't make sense why accessing the app drawer on the motorola is so sluggish lol... seriously it's just icons... I'm pretty sure it's Android's fault not the phone.
edit 2: btw you just worried me as well Knobibrot LOL with your story. though I've heard many but now I'm really thinking about it since I'll be traveling for a long time, I need a lasting phone that does 720p. and Motorola seems like it has strong build quality and a great camera. And it's still Android so hmm..
edit 3: I don't care about watching movies, I don't watch movies on cell phones. LOL count me in Knobibrot, why should we buy it ? haha Galaxy is a great phone but I am not sure all because of build quality and how long it may last.. since already many errors are being reported..
edit 4: arg it doesn't have wireless n the motorola and it's not amoled.

Still have my doubts too and am questioning the logic behind leaving out all leds. It does appear to be a long running design choice with Samsung phones from what I've read.
I'm ditching my HD2 due to unreliability issues, so the Galaxy does seem a bit of a gamble when the Desire has so many great reviews. It's that damn screen on the G that keeps pulling me back tho!

this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
its always the manufacturers fault if the user is too stupid, right ?
would you buy a car without ever testdriving it ? no you wouldn't even if the guy who wants to sell it to you says "its the greatest thing since sliced bread and it does 200 mph" !
but with phones it's seemingly totally different... the manufacturer tells you something and you do believe the **** out of it.. instead of just taking the goddamn device in your hand and use the features you need and check if it is ok for you.
yeah i know, its so much harder to get a phone into your hand than having a test-drive, right ?
oh, and when you save all your money for a phone its the best thing to confide in the manufacturers claims and blindly buy it without testing
either be a man and buy something without testing, because you have the money and don't care if its **** (its still YOUR DECISION to spend the money on something you never used before) or be "smart" and test the device, if the money does matter so much for you...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
and here the reasons for buying the i9000:
big super amoled screen
best videoplayer on a device so far (mkv, avi/divx support out of the box)
720p @ 30 fps so far (not "up to 30 fps" like the iphone 4 )
android os
nice samsung customization with touchwiz

Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.

Well the whole reason with pre-ordering without testing for me is that manufacturers these days don't seem too good (or perhaps intentionally) at judging demand, so if I'm not getting one in the first batch then I could end up waiting months. But that's why I've been checking every review and user opinion, so at least I've got an idea.

just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....

Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.

DonAndress said:
Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Well my heart goes out to you in not having a government strong enough to enforce better consumer laws.

v1rtu4l said:
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
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In that case you will simply love reading this....
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Like the bearded one, I shall be returning mine under UK distance selling regulations if I'm not entirely happy with it. But I am cautiously optimistic. Samsung is a big company with a lot of customers, it stands to reason they're gonna have some unhappy ones.
This phone is going to be such a big seller (over 1 million pre-orders in Europe), they will have to get it sorted if there are any little niggles, plus if they plan to be taken seriously on Android they do realize they need to change their support and policy towards upgrades. We've already seen them make a clear statement that 2.2 will be supported.
But my main reason for buying it, there's still nothing else out there that comes close in terms of overall capability.

Beards said:
In that case you will simply love reading this....
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I've got nothing against Apple, but that did make me chuckle.

Knobibrot said:
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
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The choice between iPhone and the GS is more a choice between android and iOS. I thought about buying the iphone, but then I realized I hated their push notification system (had a lot of bad experiences with it with my iTouch), the lack of widgets, the lousy multitasking (I use ebuddy a lot, and the multitasking implementation of the iphone only allows for push messages with IM's). The iPhone itself is a great device, technically, but the software just doesn't cut it for me.
The choice between the Desire and the GS is a bit more difficult. While the Desire is the nice looking, better built cheaper phone with the great Sense UI (although the touchwiz UI also has some nice things, like the app list and the ability to take screenshots), the Samsung is better in about every other aspect. For example:
-Better, bigger screen with better multi-touch (the Desire has trouble tracking as much as 2 fingers at the same time).
-Better processor AND better graphics processor.
-Better bluetooth and wifi and higher mobile upload speed (2mbps<5.76 mbps)
-Better media player and sound quality with support for Avi, FLAC, ...
-Extra memory, both ROM and general
I'm coming from a desire myself, because I really had trouble playing games on emulators with the bad multi-touch. The GPU also wasn't able to keep up in games like Asphalt.
With the GS already on amazon for 499 euros, I would definitly choose it over the desire, which is around 469 here in Belgium.

v1rtu4l said:
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
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I've only had one Samsung phone so far (i900 Omnia I) but in the 2 years that I owned it I never had a serious problem, even though I bought it 2nd hand on eBay. The only few times it crashed was when I installed a new app it didn't like.
The main reasons why I'm interested in this phone are the 4" Super AMOLED screen, 8GB/16GB on board storage plus SD card, 512mb RAM, 2GB ROM, 1GHz processor with 1500 mAh battery suggests good battery life (although reports so far are mixed), confirmed update to Froyo (as per gsmarena) and apparently good video player and sound quality. Also, I had good experiences with the camera of my Omnia so I'm hoping this bodes well for the Galaxy S camera (yes, I'm aware that it doesn't have a flash). I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
I'm keeping an eye on the iPhone 4 as well, but I'm put off by the small screen (smaller than previous iPhones), no flash support for the browser (not so much for youtube but so many websites use it) and I'm a bit suspicious about Apple potentially hobbling Google sync functions. Also not looking forward to iAds.

Yeah, the performance of the phone and the screen are the things that are keeping me from waiting for another phone.
Hearing about bad build quality from those that tried it worries me.
But then again I come from an HTC Magic which has bad build quality but nothing happened to it in a year except dust under screen, but on Sammy that won't be a problem.

Reasons ?! i could write many reasons but this is all i have for now
1- Of course the Super Amoled Screen (best screen to date)
2- The screen is BIG!
3- The Hummingbird processor that means i wont have problems watching a movie on my phone and also it'll rock on game
4- Tv-out sulotions so you have:
a- Wired tv-out using S-video cable .
b- DLNA so you can stream your videos/images/music to your TV ,Media Player, PC , Laptop or PS3 wirelessly
5- Huge internal memory so you can throw anything you want in it .If it's not enough just throw in a 32 GB M-SD card
6- Codecs support so it's ready for your vids
These are the reasons i have for now that makes the galaxy s stands out between Desire , Legend and iPhone !
So if i made a comparison between each device the list will grately expand !

I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
I'll do a search on that!
Thanks for all these great comments.
And informations like the 1 million pre-orders in Europe and Cooki3s' review of the Desire really helps!

Knobibrot said:
I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
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Yeah, I think I read that too somewhere. You can deactivate it on the Omnia, so that would make sense. But the GS version looks like I might actually find some of it practical to use, e.g. the Daily Briefing (provided Samsung modify it to allow custom news feeds), unlike the Omnia version which I didn't find very useful.

If the GS build quality is as good as other Samsung's I've had I would be happy. I've always found the build quality excellent, especially compared to SE and Nokia.
However, Samsung haven't been the fasted at updates, so the sooner they confirm Froyo the better.

Evleaks - Xperia Z3

I really don't understand this.
If this is true, Z3 will actually be Z2
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http://evleaks.at/2014/07/23/sony-x...-330-5-15-1080p-3gb16gb-20-7mp2-1mp-kk-4-4-4/
Sony....sony....What's happening...
We won't buy new (same) device just for new firmware..
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It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!

May be Z2 will has unique features or better camera sensor or better build quality.

And maybe a higher mp front facing camera.
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Of you ask me - that's not enough to call it Z3 but OK...we'll see.
BTW, I think we don't have to wait 808 or 810, S805 will be and would be something you will expect now.
Sony built Z1 with new 800, then they built Z2 with overclocked 800 - S801... What now, they will overclock overclocked 800!?!
They, obviously can't follow 6 months cycle...
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bjornops said:
It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
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i agree there is a lot that could be better on the Z2/Z1 -- it seems that Sony is edging towards a perfect iteration of Xperia Omnibalance. the issue is that the Z3 is really what the Z1 should have been!
also hoping that there will be better speakers (but judging from the size of those speaker holes, not holding my breath), better heat dissipation for 4K, and less chance of self-cracking glass. better camera algorithms for HDR, 20MP automatic, etc.
wireless charging? that would be cool, but i'd rather see Sony get a magnetic charging port that doesn't fall out.
SD805 would have been expected, so that's disappointing. but maybe 32GB/64GB variants?

bjornops said:
It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
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64-bit performance will be negligible FYI; it's unnecessary for mobile products. Just as a QHD screen is on a ~5 inch device....

seh6183 said:
64-bit performance will be negligible FYI; it's unnecessary for mobile products. Just as a QHD screen is on a ~5 inch device....
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The first iteration might not improve the performance much, but it will continue to get better.
Calling it unnecessary for mobile products is making the same mistake as an IBM Senior Engineer did back in '68.
He said "Yeah, microchips, but what... is it good for?", and as you can see microchips are good for plenty of stuff.
Or another example of the same mistake is Ken Olson, President of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977 whom said "There is no reason anyone in the right state of mind will want a computer in their home."
There is always a reason to make better, cheaper, faster and more mobile computers.
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Oh, I just noticed you have an iPhone 4, that's why you are ignorant.

MiniDemonic said:
The first iteration might not improve the performance much, but it will continue to get better.
Calling it unnecessary for mobile products is making the same mistake as an IBM Senior Engineer did back in '68.
He said "Yeah, microchips, but what... is it good for?", and as you can see microchips are good for plenty of stuff.
Or another example of the same mistake is Ken Olson, President of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977 whom said "There is no reason anyone in the right state of mind will want a computer in their home."
There is always a reason to make better, cheaper, faster and more mobile computers.
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Oh, I just noticed you have an iPhone 4, that's why you are ignorant.
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Your comparisons are so unrelated to the topic at hand that it just blows my mind. You literally just fried my brain with your nonsense.You should have used some car references in there as well to drive your excellent and well thought out point home. If you new a single thing about 64 bit architecture, which you clearly don't, you would know that 64 bit even for computers is questionable.

seh6183 said:
Your comparisons are so unrelated to the topic at hand that it just blows my mind. You literally just fried my brain with your nonsense.You should have used some car references in there as well to drive your excellent and well thought out point home. If you new a single thing about 64 bit architecture, which you clearly don't, you would know that 64 bit even for computers is questionable.
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If YOU knew a single thing about anything you would know that 64 bit is undeniably better than 32 bit.. Please, just stop, you are making yourself look really really stupid.

MiniDemonic said:
If YOU knew a single thing about anything you would know that 64 bit is undeniably better than 32 bit.. Please, just stop, you are making yourself look really really stupid.
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Lol

seh6183 said:
Lol
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64 bit SoC's will allow more than 3gb RAM in a phone too, that's probably the more realistic benefit at the minute (IMHO).

This makes me happy. Now I can hold on to my Z2 longer without thinking it's an obsolete piece of ****.

bryanhayn said:
This makes me happy. Now I can hold on to my Z2 longer without thinking it's an obsolete piece of ****.
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Haha.. I wouldn't consider it a BAD phone based on that it isn't the latest model
I'm considering buying the Z2 now, and it seems it really doesn't matter regarding performance. Am I going to regret not waiting it out?!
OT: I'm assuming the "major" differences are going to be physical and UX. Sony has chosen a bumpy road trying to impress every half year. We really can't expect a revolution each time (and therefore not making the previous model obsolete)

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Lol
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Funny that you didn't have any better argument than "Lol".
But since you think 64bit is unnecessary why are you using 64bit on your computer?
I call it now, your argument is going to be something like "phones are not computers".

It's absolutely true that we don't need or use many things on our PC, phones or tablets...
But that doesn't mean we don't need it, or if you like, it doesn't mean it's not good for industry to grow...
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is not using 100% of any device, that's perfectly normal...
But...
First step will be 64bit architecture then it'll produce less heat, less heat means happy camera users, happy camera users will lead to something else...
That's industry and it's perfectly normal to go forward...
Someone said why QHD screens...well because that will sell devices...
Should they add CRT into Z3 plans?
Yes, we don't need many things but I like to have new and fancy things...
To be honest I don't need 4K recording on my phone but I like to have it
Back to topic...
Totally agree with statement that Sony can't build (not only Sony) and release revolution every six months but it's not cool to sell devices for 1000$, devices that are finished...
Z3 will be finished Z or Z1 - someone said that and I believe that's, sad but, true...
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waynekirby said:
64 bit SoC's will allow more than 3gb RAM in a phone too, that's probably the more realistic benefit at the minute (IMHO).
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3GB limit is x86 architecture specific and it is not directly linked to 32 bit architecture, google for PAE.
funky0308 said:
First step will be 64bit architecture then it'll produce less heat, less heat means happy camera users, happy camera users will lead to something else...
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Pure nonsense. I understand meaning of your statements, but this one is just simply not true.

If Sony does refresh their flagship as per EvLeaks tweet, then they're are going to piss off a huge portion of the customer base who bought into the Z2, me included, they seem to be going down the same road that HTC went down, re-releasing minor spec bumped versions of their flagship devices because they didnt cover all angles with the initial devices.
HTC have just won back their customer base and regardless of sales, they have the best Android phone out period, with the M8 they got the formula 100% correct and they are seeing a positive return, Sony has been playing the developers friend and that has opened up doors and they have grown a loyal fan base but they should be careful of this business practice where they do what the did with the Z > Z1.
The life span on a flagship is already down to 11 months maybe and cutting it shorter is going to piss people off and they will take their business elsewhere, while Sony doesnt have the capital expenditure problems that HTC has since Sony is a multi dimentional corporation but this 6 months refresh cycle with see them run at a loss in the long run.
I'm happy with my Z2 and would love for it to be the top dog till the next Mobile World Congress.

qbic2 said:
3GB limit is x86 architecture specific and it is not directly linked to 32 bit architecture, google for PAE.
Pure nonsense. I understand meaning of your statements, but this one is just simply not true.
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Haha...you shouldn't take everything so serious...take a deep breath and remember... We are on forum, not in North Korea...
Everyone has right to day what he/she thinks it's right...
If you really understood what I wanted to say, you won't be writing something like that...
I actually know what I'm saying and don't need to ask Google for opinion.
BTW - don't take everything from Google and wiki for granted...
I just simplified long statement....
If you want or need long version why it would lead to "cooler" cpu and device I'll write that for you...
I'm not talking about higher frequencies, I'm talking about new and better architecture and benefits.
And yeah...It's not problem in cpus, it's problem in OS (to add more RAMs)...
But one lead to other and it'll eventually lead to faster devices, powered with better chipsets, more RAM and less heat...
That all ends with happier users, or grumpy ones, like you...
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Seems all these phone companies are just greedy these days, rushing out different models!. The z2 ain't been out for 5 minutes! photo's on a leaked z3 is ridiculous. They shouldn't be allowed to bringft these flagship phones with minor updates so quickly!?

HTC One (M9) Reviews Thread

1st full review is released today and it's not looking good for HTC, will update this thread with more reviews when released.
HTC One M9 Review - Where are the improvements?
-Based on these pictures, and of course many other photos that we have made, we are not impressed by the camera of the M9. In good light it captures more detail than the M8, but sometimes blur on the right. In low light, aggressive noise reduction leads to a lack of detail. A high-end phone that costs a lot of money should we expect better.
-The One M8 was during the test just under 40 degrees. That is palpable, but not uncomfortable. The One M9 was the same load as much as 55.4 degrees. That is a fundamental difference and after the turning of the test was the M9 so hot that it was uncomfortable to hold him.
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-It is obvious that HTC simply exactly the same screen as used in the M8, but that is not the case. For reasons we do not understand is the manufacturer went for another panel that produces noticeably less beautiful picture. For example, the brightness is lower, although the difference is not large. With a maximum brightness of 474cd / m² of M9 screen is fortunately still bright enough to be still visible in the air.
If we look at the contrast ratio of the screen, we see a big difference. Where the M8 a ratio of 1624: 1 makes note, an excellent score for an LCD, the M9 does not exceed 911: 1. That is to see if you like both devices side by side; the image of the M8 look more impressive. Especially in a dark environment can be seen that the black on the M8 is much deeper; the M9 tends a bit more to very dark gray with a blue touch. Look you then even at an oblique angle to the screen, we see clear color shifting, something we expected earlier in cheaper phones.
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Battery is comparable with G3/Lumia 930, screen is worst than M8 according to them...

That review is so bad that I almost want to believe it was a bad unit..
Will wait for a couple more before getting worried

You are funny.
Anandtech said they didnt find the S810 overheating. Some dutch website says a pre release version of the M9 gets hot.
There will be plenty of reviews coming in the next week or so.. lets just wait and see

rkial said:
You are funny.
Anandtech said they didnt find the S810 overheating. Some dutch website says a pre release version of the M9 gets hot.
There will be plenty of reviews coming in the next week or so.. lets just wait and see
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Yes, and Anandtech was using a reference device the size of a tablet, whose size helped with the thermals. We also don't know what else Qualcomm stuffed inside that tablet. There might have been some expensive cooling technology that we don't know of that won't be in the consumer devices.
Hell, that tablet scores a 62k on antutu, when we all know that 810 devices score 50-55k.

Applesexual said:
Yes, and Anandtech was using a reference device the size of a tablet, whose size helped with the thermals. We also don't know what else Qualcomm stuffed inside that tablet. There might have been some expensive cooling technology that we don't know of that won't be in the consumer devices.
Hell, that tablet scores a 62k on antutu, when we all know that 810 devices score 50-55k.
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As for the underlying SoC, it seems that a lot of the concerns with the Snapdragon 810 remain unfounded, as the One M9 was quite smooth even with this non-final build of software. It’s likely that while the Snapdragon 810 SoC itself is without issue, properly tuning all of the controls in Qualcomm’s big.LITTLE implementation is a much more difficult than a standard aSMP solution. Unfortunately, due to the non-final state of the software we are unable to present benchmarks of the device, but we will be sure to do this for the full review of the device. In general use, the phone remained cool and comfortable to use, and it was hard to really tell if the phone got any hotter than the M8 in practice, even in benchmarks. The One M7 is definitely far hotter in comparison due to its 28LP process used on the SoC in comparison.
From their M9 hands on.

amidabuddha said:
Dude no offense, but looking at your forum history I can see that you have signed up a couple of days before the official announcement of S6, spend a good amount of time to praise the greatness of Sammy, flaming severely Apple and HTC, demonstrating quite good amount of in-depth knowledge without providing any sources (except few posts) and using a lot of marketing methods to influense the rest of the readers with your opinion.
IMHO you are paid and your advise should be not taken seriously
Just my two cents, I am sorry if I am too suspicious, but people do all kind of weird stuff in the name of the holy Dollar
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I had the great desire to second this in that thread as well.
Looks like the OP here just like you has participated in marketing discussions only since his signing up in a Development forum isn't it strange? No ROMs, no Kernels discussions, no mods, just plain prasing on great Samsung.
Lol Sammy guys stop this please, we will all see is it worth once the devices get to the shops and the real-life reviews come as @rkial already said

Thread cleaned. This is a Reviews thread, not a bun-fight. Neither is it a vehicle to bash HTC.
Keep it civil and on-topic please or it will disappear for good.

Why is it that everybody that says something negative about the M9 is trolling?? I am the biggest HTC fan and im not liking what im hearing about the M9! Im actually really disappointed because I really do think HTC builds the best phones in the market but the M9 just isnt stacking up too well. Considering the phone is so close to launch, I honestly dont think last minute software tweaks are gonna save it from everything. Do I think it can help some? Yes, but I really dont think HTC would have released test units if the software wasnt semi close to final. Companies know leaks happen so if you know the software is that bad then why risk bad press by releasing test units with buggy software that dont show off the phones potential? I dunno I really hope things turn around but HTC seems to be running out of steam. And before anybody says im "trolling" or a Samsung fanboy or whatever, just know I hate TouchWiz, never owned anything Apple and my last 6 devices have all been HTC outside of the Note 2....

SPreston2001 said:
Why is it that everybody that says something negative about the M9 is trolling?? I am the biggest HTC fan and im not liking what im hearing about the M9! Im actually really disappointed because I really do think HTC builds the best phones in the market but the M9 just isnt stacking up too well. Considering the phone is so close to launch, I honestly dont think last minute software tweaks are gonna save it from everything. Do I think it can help some? Yes, but I really dont think HTC would have released test units if the software wasnt semi close to final. Companies know leaks happen so if you know the software is that bad then why risk bad press by releasing test units with buggy software that dont show off the phones potential? I dunno I really hope things turn around but HTC seems to be running out of steam. And before anybody says im "trolling" or a Samsung fanboy or whatever, just know I hate TouchWiz, never owned anything Apple and my last 6 devices have all been HTC outside of the Note 2....
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Thanks for your great post. Not everyone who's being critical is trolling. I hope people have a more open mind when reading internet comments.
In any case, here are the battery life figures for the M9 since the OP didn't include the charts in his post:

Qualcomm will NOT release a processor they know is this bad and HTC would not release a device if it was this much of a failure.
I got the htc one m8 and loved it even on kit kat was super fast everyday use was perfect but got caught up in the hype of samsung marketing and got the plastic Note 4 have hated it since I got it should i mention Note 4 STILL HASNT GOT LOLLIPOP Just pitiful!!!
I suggest trying the HTC One M9 yourself before making bold statements and your personal use will always be different trying it out is worth the restocking fee.
Dont fall for the samsung marketing samsung can keep their plastic phone with glass and no microsd card slot. 64gb cards these days are only 25$
I'm sure somebody will say they cant follow my post mostly likely a samsung lover....lol

nabzilla1990 said:
Qualcomm will NOT release a processor they know is this bad and HTC would not release a device if it was this much of a failure.
I got the htc one m8 and loved it even on kit kat was super fast everyday use was perfect but got caught up in the hype of samsung marketing and got the plastic Note 4 have hated it since I got it should i mention Note 4 STILL HASNT GOT LOLLIPOP Just pitiful!!!
I suggest trying the HTC One M9 yourself before making bold statements and your personal use will always be different trying it out is worth the restocking fee.
Dont fall for the samsung marketing samsung can keep their plastic phone with glass and no microsd card slot. 64gb cards these days are only 25$
I'm sure somebody will say they cant follow my post mostly likely a samsung lover....lol
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At this point, I'd rather take the Note 4 over the M9.

At this moment I'm more worried about all these devices coming out with the broken Android 5.0. Even Android 5.1 produces memory leak problems on the Nexus 6, and all these radio issues and signal loss regardless of the device and software is something should've never happened under Google's guidance.

"Author of the article on Tweakers here:
Actually, there was a worldwide embargo on reviews today at noon (Amsterdam time), but on Friday HTC contacted everybody and told them they were postponing the lifting of the embargo until Monday next week.
However, there were two sites who didn't really get this email: British PcAdvisor and Dutch blog AndroidPlanet, one of our competitors in the tech scene in Holland. We had an agreement with htc that we would publish if one or more websites broke the embargo, so that's what we did: publish it.
After the fact, HTC contacted PcAdvisor and persuaded them into removing the benchmarks and renaming it a 'hands on', while AndroidPlanet took their whole review offline.
That's when they called us to ask if we got take it offline as well, but we never do that (because our site is so well read and commented on, that a lot of links people shared won't work anymore for instance) and we felt we were not at fault because we made an agreement and stuck to it.
For the record, to the best of my knowledge the lifting of the embargo was postponed because of a boot issue, not because of issues with the processor or battery life.
Somehow, even after we published htc persuaded all the big media to not publish the review, although they must be ready to publish and the other media would have all the right in the world to consider the embargo broken and thus lifted. How htc persuaded all of them, I just don't know.
So yeah, basically htc did **** up an embargo, by resetting the date a few days in advance.
We did not expect the story about the heating problems becoming hot news (pun definitely intended ) in the English speaking world. We are writing in Dutch after all, a language only like 30 million people in the world understand (we always brag about having more unique visitors than there are Dutch speaking people, but that's ofcourse nonsense, because of the subjects on our site readers like technology a lot and probably use 2 or 3 or more devices to visit our site )"
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.

Applesexual said:
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.
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The phone got delayed for software updates, so yes people could use that "excuse". We get that you dislike HTC and love Samsung but just give it a rest - Adam

Adam182 said:
The phone got delayed for software updates, so yes people could use that "excuse". We get that you dislike HTC and love Samsung but just give it a rest - Adam
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Software can fix dull screen? Nope
Btw no word about RAW, why htc is postponing it perhaps the only thing that could help the camera. Htc is acting like an amateur company this year I can't recognise them anymore
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Yes, non-final software is still a possibility because the review was still done on a phone running pre-final software. You can't deny the possibility that HTC is working on camera post-processing and other software bugs now. Plus, even during MWC, HTC employees continued to tell us that the phone's software was indeed not finalised, so there's that.
P.S. Tbh, your little story was interesting to read, but it didn't suggest anything about "non-final software" at all. It was simply an illogical conclusion

Applesexual said:
"Author of the article on Tweakers here:
Actually, there was a worldwide embargo on reviews today at noon (Amsterdam time), but on Friday HTC contacted everybody and told them they were postponing the lifting of the embargo until Monday next week.
However, there were two sites who didn't really get this email: British PcAdvisor and Dutch blog AndroidPlanet, one of our competitors in the tech scene in Holland. We had an agreement with htc that we would publish if one or more websites broke the embargo, so that's what we did: publish it.
After the fact, HTC contacted PcAdvisor and persuaded them into removing the benchmarks and renaming it a 'hands on', while AndroidPlanet took their whole review offline.
That's when they called us to ask if we got take it offline as well, but we never do that (because our site is so well read and commented on, that a lot of links people shared won't work anymore for instance) and we felt we were not at fault because we made an agreement and stuck to it.
For the record, to the best of my knowledge the lifting of the embargo was postponed because of a boot issue, not because of issues with the processor or battery life.
Somehow, even after we published htc persuaded all the big media to not publish the review, although they must be ready to publish and the other media would have all the right in the world to consider the embargo broken and thus lifted. How htc persuaded all of them, I just don't know.
So yeah, basically htc did **** up an embargo, by resetting the date a few days in advance.
We did not expect the story about the heating problems becoming hot news (pun definitely intended ) in the English speaking world. We are writing in Dutch after all, a language only like 30 million people in the world understand (we always brag about having more unique visitors than there are Dutch speaking people, but that's ofcourse nonsense, because of the subjects on our site readers like technology a lot and probably use 2 or 3 or more devices to visit our site )"
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.
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Did you even read what you posted? It didn't mention their unit having final software or even being a non preproduction unit. You're trolling way too hard. Let the phone get released, then if it has issues you can come back out from under your bridge.
You could also just not get an m9.

Unfortunately where you se some smoke, usually, there is fire.
Lets wait and hope the tested Unit is a faulty one or without final hardware.
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The guy saying 28nm will be hotter than this new tech... In semiconductor physics, it's the opposite (smaller process at these limits runs hotter and is much harder to control.)
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th3 said:
The guy saying 28nm will be hotter than this new tech... In semiconductor physics, it's the opposite (smaller process at these limits runs hotter and is much harder to control.)
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The number of cores went from 4 to 8, meaning that the size of each core probably had to be shrunk in order to fit inside a smartphone SoC.
Smaller cores = hotter cores

Overheating Issues

Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?

The interesting thing is that my M8 also gets really hot when I use it, screen on and charging. Almost too hot to hold.
It may well be an issue with the HTC One phones and not the SoC. I don't know.

Maybe restart the phone again to see any applications not optimized/run properly? I'm also worried about this issue, hope there is fix otw

There's just an OTA out now which fixes the overheating.
Link: http://tweakers.net/reviews/3921/4/...nder-de-motorkap-de-64bit-snapdragon-810.html
Just because a device is shippped with release software, that doesn't mean it's final software.

This question is very easy to answer.
The HTC One M9 uses a S810 wich get hot faster than others recent SoCs used in iPhone 6 and S6.
Same thing happens in the LG G Flex 2 and both use heavy throttling to prevent the phone being too warm.
We can discuss why the S810 get warmer than Apple A7 and Exynos 7 but essentially, I think it's because A7 use less core with a lower frequency and Exynos 7 use a 14nm FinFET manufacturing process.

jaaystott said:
Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
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Please check if there is an update available. The issue should've been fixed.

The M9 has been shown to run hot, even after the thermal throttling "hotfix", pun intended (hotter than its competition). This isn't even disputed anymore.
Why? I don't know, but damn, am I curious.
One suggestion is that they have processor hotspots not being dealt with due to a high localized power density... so while the SoC power is OK, two or more hotspots in a localized area are exacerbating the situation (they quickly make the situation run out of control).
It only take one hotspot to trip the Tjunction profile. The rest of the SoC could be running fine. And this is either a problem with the Thermal Profiling and Cooling Spec (design or data sheet) or the Snapdragon 810 itself.
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@th3
HTC One M9 - 41.7C
LG G3 - 42.6C
That's not hotter than competition. That's within the comptetion.

I can't help but think it is an issue with some handsets. I've read reviews that state that it isn't an issue and reviews that show some concern.
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Mr_Bartek said:
@th3
HTC One M9 - 41.7C
LG G3 - 42.6C
That's not hotter than competition. That's within the comptetion.
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You chose the hottest one?
If you read the major reviews, they still state it runs very skin warm.
M8, S6 and IP6 are the M9 competition. And upcoming G4. G3 isn't.
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@th3 - yes, because what you said was incorrect. Also, the difference between hottest and coolest is 3.6C. That's not a lot.

jaaystott said:
Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
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The display and the battery performance are also worse.
I think Qualcomm has tried to cover the problem as much as they could but it's very obvious that they have screwed up with this processor, that they're even starting to talk about the "much better much cooler" S815 already.
It's not HTC's problem (nor was it LG's when they tried to pin it on LG earlier), it's the processor. All HTC (or LG) can do is try to cut the load on the processor and basically run it at lower speeds so it doesn't get too hot. Obviously that will impact the performance, but that's all they can do with the software updates. They will just try to find the right balance between temperature and performance.

I was avoiding the S6 because of the Exynos not being favored in the Rom-developing community. But the rumors-turned-facts about the 810 SoC have me worried. Not particularly blaming Qualcomm, but it seemed like this issue has had almost half a year to be ironed out.
I think the most troubling is that I've read the SoC's clock speed has been reduced to lower overheating, and the thing still overheats. So even if you've been waiting nearly 15 months for Snapdragon 810 like me because they said it'd be a beast, its disappointing to know that having the chip run ans intended might melt your phone.
Also even if early reviews are to be taken with a grain of salt, I've been hearing about underclocking, overheating, screen and boomsound quality being a step back from the M8's, and camera being not that great. I'm positive in time they might fix alot of the issues the early releases have been suffering from, but I am not one to wait many months longer for those updates. Just the updates to get a new android version can be grueling, so I can't imagine waiting for an update to make the device finally comfortable to use. With the S6 just a few weaks away, without all the nasty rumors the M9's been having, I just might have to bite the bullet.
The good news, I hear Exynos is naturally better at emulated gaming which is something I always consider when buying a new mobile device. The bad news, it isn't Qualcomm, and I already bought screen protectors and cases for the M9, despite it not being out yet in America
Edit: I take back what I said about getting an S6. I did a search on release date, and it's released in India for $950 for the 32GB model. Unless they can make the 64GB model less than $720 in America, I'm not interested. Which isn't likely. I would have already had a Xiomi Mi Note 4 Pro if the damn thing wasn't impossible to get, and would have got a G Flex 2 if it came with more RAM.

Mr_Bartek said:
@th3 - yes, because what you said was incorrect. Also, the difference between hottest and coolest is 3.6C. That's not a lot.
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Read the reviews. What you initially suggested is wrong and so is your selective comparison against the worst, non-competitor. It's still running hot, as every major review says. Even though it's not too much hotter, I agree and now acceptable to hold, it's still hotter, and still warm to hold.
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.

Mr_Bartek said:
@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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So the previous update wasn't dealing with the thermal?
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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that update underclocked cpu to 1.6 ghz i wouldnt say that a "fix"

I believe with people finally getting the phone, we will see if this problem is solved.

For a week I am using this gorgeous handheld, tons of blowing away emotions - no any significant overheat yet..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the software updates are, simply, throttling the chip to approx 1.5 it is no better than an m8, which I have ? Plus, Sense 7 will be on m8 "soon", so no need to upgrade.
Sense 7, custom, roms are available now.
NOT having "a go" at HTC, I've had about 7 different handsets in last 5 years.
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[REPORT] Nexus 5 2015 and Android M Will Born Together

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Android fans got an insight into what Android M or Android 5.2/6.0 will be like. Besides learning about features and new integration possibilities, the news about Android M and its development stage immediately sparked rumors about how the final OS will be introduced. There’s no doubt that the Nexus 5 2015, as it is being called in the rumors will be the flagship device to show off Android M.
Indeed, there’s whispers of a neat new duo (or possibly trio) in the form of the upcoming Nexus 5 2015 and Android M.
Although there are still a few months to go until Google reveals the latest and greatest in terms of hardware, possibly in conjunction with LG and Huawei, speculation about the whole affair has only been increasing.
However, Sources did confirm that at least the joint launch of the new Nexus and Android M is a sure thing. But whether the new Nexus will actually be the Nexus 5 2015, with inspiration from the more popular Nexus of them all, is still a bit of a mystery. Anyone’s guess actually.
Aside from Nexus 5 2015 and Android M pairing up, there are rumors about the line-up, too. Apparently, most people expect to see LG making the Nexus 5 2015 and Huawei making the new Nexus tablet. Huawei has been slowly drilling into the American market recently, and if these rumors are true, they might have just found a sure fire way in.
Although specs and designs are definitely not announced or even leaked, most of us do have realistic expectations of the new devices. Apparently, the Nexus 5 2015 will focus on meeting user demands more than doing improvements to lesser requested things. As such, we’ve heard from some developers that the Nexus 5 2015 will not be appealing nor impressive visually, but it will be a powerhouse specifically directed at power users.
Even if the Nexus 6 is an overall awesome device, the big screen was a risk that Google should have postponed to a later date, as the international audience was and maybe still not ready for a 6 inch daily driver. Apparently, the Mountain View giant has learned its lesson and is focusing more on the inside of the phone rather than on the presentation. That being said, the screen size will still increase to the most popular 5.3 inch size, according to our insiders. The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560, but there’s a strong possibility of a QHD panel as well. I would vote FHD if Google and LG go for the 5.3 inch format.
The Nexus 5 2015 will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810, stock Android M of course, 3 GB RAM, 64 and 128 GB internal storage, wireless charging, fast charging, USB Type C, an well-improved 16 MP camera with optical image stabilization on the rear and a 5 MP selfie camera with a wide-angle lens on the front. There will also be a fingerprint sensor on the rear of the device, for easy access. One particular individual, close to the engineering team at Google, said that the Nexus 5 2015 will have one major design improvement, in the form of a durable body that will be covered by some sort of resistant carbon fiber. That sounds a bit weird, but designing more durable phones would be a good idea.
The only thing we don’t know much about is whether the Nexus 5 2015 battery will be user removable. That’s one thing people are beginning to love and hating its absence. A removable battery is not only beneficial for when there’s no power source around except a spare battery, but it’s a well-known thing that batteries wear out and die after a year or two. For the people who intend to buy Nexus 5 2015, and keep it as a daily driver for a year and then make it a secondary driver for another 2 years, having a removable battery is crucial.
Consumerism in our society does indicate that your smartphone should be refreshed yearly, but thankfully, many of us know that is not necessary. Software updates are a good way to keep a smartphone future-proof, but so are removable batteries and durable bodies. Whether the Nexus 5 2015 will be suitable for this long-term relationship is once again, anyone’s guess. We sure hope it will be. How about you?

This reads like a clickbait blog.
Nothing to see here folks.

Couple of things;
"The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560"
What the hell ever had a resolution of 2560x1080? That resolution doesn't even make sense. Its like 16x6.5. Crazy.
N5/2013 was 1920x1080.
N6 is 2560x1440.
Second part of it that is entirely *insane* is...
"will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810".
Since when has a Nexus *EVER* shipped with "last year's" SoC?
The ONLY chip they can use that won't result in a DEAD DUCK will be the Snapdragon 820;
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/29/snapdragon-820-benchmark-annihilates-competition/

doitright said:
Couple of things;
"The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560"
What the hell ever had a resolution of 2560x1080? That resolution doesn't even make sense. Its like 16x6.5. Crazy.
N5/2013 was 1920x1080.
N6 is 2560x1440.
Second part of it that is entirely *insane* is...
"will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810".
Since when has a Nexus *EVER* shipped with "last year's" SoC?
The ONLY chip they can use that won't result in a DEAD DUCK will be the Snapdragon 820;
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/29/snapdragon-820-benchmark-annihilates-competition/
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Your reading into an article that has no facts to back it up. The phone hasn't been announced, hell no one knows if we're getting 2 nexus or one and what it's going to be.
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Smallsmx3 said:
Your reading into an article that has no facts to back it up. The phone hasn't been announced, hell no one knows if we're getting 2 nexus or one and what it's going to be.
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Exactly.
This is just another of countless blogs out of india that just regurgitate various rumors that have already been around for a while but have no confirmation, and in this case, no sources.

doitright said:
Couple of things;
"The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560"
What the hell ever had a resolution of 2560x1080? That resolution doesn't even make sense. Its like 16x6.5. Crazy.
N5/2013 was 1920x1080.
N6 is 2560x1440.
Second part of it that is entirely *insane* is...
"will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810".
Since when has a Nexus *EVER* shipped with "last year's" SoC?
The ONLY chip they can use that won't result in a DEAD DUCK will be the Snapdragon 820;
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/29/snapdragon-820-benchmark-annihilates-competition/
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820 most likely won't be ready...
Past rumours has said 810 Huawei and 808 LG
Articles click bait anyway, its obvious itll launch with Android M

King p1n said:
820 most likely won't be ready...
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Considering that the chip is already hitting benchmarks (with insanely good single threaded performance numbers)... why would you assume that?
Past rumours has said 810 Huawei and 808 LG
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If they use those, the device will be dead.
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Your reading into an article that has no facts to back it up. The phone hasn't been announced, hell no one knows if we're getting 2 nexus or one and what it's going to be.
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Think harder.
IM MAKING FUN OF THAT "ARTICLE".

doitright said:
Considering that the chip is already hitting benchmarks (with insanely good single threaded performance numbers)... why would you assume that?
If they use those, the device will be dead.
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Think harder.
IM MAKING FUN OF THAT "ARTICLE".
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Because its too early.
I wouldn't expect the 820 to actual be seen in devices until q1 2015 or December if your lucky.
They're not dead tbh, as pretty much majority of the phones will use 810/808 this fall too.
All im saying is if you expect the 820 your likely to be very disappointed. 810/808 is much more believable.

King p1n said:
Because its too early.
I wouldn't expect the 820 to actual be seen in devices until q1 2015 or December if your lucky.
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q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
They're not dead tbh, as pretty much majority of the phones will use 810/808 this fall too.
All im saying is if you expect the 820 your likely to be very disappointed. 810/808 is much more believable.
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808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
I wouldn't even consider a device with one of those. If there's a Nexus with 820? Then we might be going for an upgrade for the wife's N5. Less than 820 and there's no point.

doitright said:
q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
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Q1 2016 you know what I mean.
How do you know? And even if it is, its only Sampling. Which takes several months. How does it make no sense?
Fine its okay if you believe it will but 810/808 is much more likely.
Well revisit this in a few months, I'm confident itll be correct as per Androidpolices source.
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King p1n said:
Q1 2016 you know what I mean.
How do you know?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_820_benchmarked_close_to_exynos_7420_performance-news-12837.php
(worth pointing out that multithreaded performance is tougher to get in terms of software, and more dependent on ability to dissipate heat, but since this unit would be running on a work bench, its heat dissipation will be chip-to-air rather than being able to soak into a phone)
And even if it is, its only Sampling. Which takes several months.
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Several months from whenever it started, so ready to ship... ANY time.
Fine its okay if you believe it will but 810/808 is much more likely.
Well revisit this in a few months, I'm confident itll be correct as per Androidpolices source.
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It doesn't matter unless they want to actually sell phones this year. No *POINT* in selling phones with 808/810. But people do things that make no sense all the time, so whatever happens, happens.

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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_820_benchmarked_close_to_exynos_7420_performance-news-12837.php
(worth pointing out that multithreaded performance is tougher to get in terms of software, and more dependent on ability to dissipate heat, but since this unit would be running on a work bench, its heat dissipation will be chip-to-air rather than being able to soak into a phone)
Several months from whenever it started, so ready to ship... ANY time.
It doesn't matter unless they want to actually sell phones this year. No *POINT* in selling phones with 808/810. But people do things that make no sense all the time, so whatever happens, happens.
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Sampling does not = ready to ship.
doitright said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_820_benchmarked_close_to_exynos_7420_performance-news-12837.php
(worth pointing out that multithreaded performance is tougher to get in terms of software, and more dependent on ability to dissipate heat, but since this unit would be running on a work bench, its heat dissipation will be chip-to-air rather than being able to soak into a phone)
Several months from whenever it started, so ready to ship... ANY time.
It doesn't matter unless they want to actually sell phones this year. No *POINT* in selling phones with 808/810. But people do things that make no sense all the time, so whatever happens, happens.
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Sampling does not = ready to ship.
It's a process to gather feedback etc.
As doesn't benchmarks...810 appeared in benchmarks around this time last year and wasn't found in devices until Q1 2015.
As I said we will revisit.

I'd say 810, it takes awhile for these silicone manufacturers to build up production levels on a new chip to the point where they can actually start releasing them for supply.
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IMO and unfortunately I'll think they will go for the 810 v2.1. It was hyped about a few weeks ago which suggest there is life in it yet. Plus there is a good chance the phones are already being or produced or v. Soon. Don't think the 820 quite there yet. However this is all part of the fun lol.
We shall see!
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I don't know. All four mainstream phones with the 805 like ours were released in October/November 2014. So, sitting back in July last year, we may have been saying the same thing about a phone using the 805 as folks here are saying about a phone using the 820. I think the Droid turbo actually hit a few weeks before the N6, but its not like the N6 used a chip that had been our for months and months.
I know the leaks say at least one of the rumored phones is using the 810, but at one point there were leaks that said all GS4's were going to use an Exynos SoC.

doitright said:
q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
I wouldn't even consider a device with one of those. If there's a Nexus with 820? Then we might be going for an upgrade for the wife's N5. Less than 820 and there's no point.
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As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
Nexus
doitright said:
q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
I wouldn't even consider a device with one of those. If there's a Nexus with 820? Then we might be going for an upgrade for the wife's N5. Less than 820 and there's no point.
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As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...s-snapdragon-820-devices-wont-come-until-2016

King p1n said:
As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
Nexus
As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...s-snapdragon-820-devices-wont-come-until-2016
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What's your point? Why bring back old topics?
Too bad if the 820 is that late, means that 2015 nexus phones will be pointless.

doitright said:
What's your point? Why bring back old topics?
Too bad if the 820 is that late, means that 2015 nexus phones will be pointless.
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Old topics lol, last post was less than a month ago lmao.
And as I told you we will revisit the topic as you claimed it wasn't too early and I said it was I just wanted to confirm that it was and that was right????
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