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THey guys i just created this petition for sony to add Camera2 API , in a Sony forum , Sony Xperia Staff stated that they will add this feature if there is a huge demand on it .
" we will consider this for the future if there is a popular demand "
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Camera2-API/td-p/974742
So i just created this petition to show the great demand of users , please share it all over xda
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobil...pport-to-xperia-smartphones?just_created=true
Thank you!
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I'm pretty sure a petition already exists
@muzab a
I looked everywhere i couldn't find one , now just share this one so we can reach thousands
Thank You
http://email.change.org/mpss/c/hQA/...YsbFj-2Fnr1tIwpy-2BPjoUzKExudIx-2BxnqUA-3D-3D
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Delete yr one and use this
This is something else , my petiotion is for Camera2 API , check the sony website they said they will support it if they find huge demand.
that petition has nothing to do with that
Guys please share it , just copy the link and post on other threads, we need to reach thousands so sony can see it and see the demand
Are you really that naive? Support for the device ended after ICS 4.0.4 and you really expect them to add support to Camera2 API (which by the way is an Lollipop feature)?
@RollingRoman uhh noobs again , this forum is for all sony devices and you can see it in any sony device forum , but for sure we only mean devices that are still in support
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Are you really that naive? Support for the device ended after ICS 4.0.4 and you really expect them to add support to Camera2 API (which by the way is an Lollipop feature)?
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Man..please, forgot about ended support 4.0.4, it's xperia 2011 series..... For that, hope that CM12 would release lollipop update with Camera2 API..
Now we're talking about the Z series (maybe T2 Ultra and C3 too) which got official lollipop update and yes, Camera2 API is a part of lollipop feature. We're hoping sony to release an update featured with Camera2 API and this is cross-sony device section.. So it means all "SONY" related thing is here.. sorry, no hard feeling no harshing.. PEACE NO WAR brother..
@daniLaLaLaLaLa Thank you
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Signed. I hope we succeed.I also wrote to Sony. Here is their answer:
Dear Mr. Tochev,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
With regards to your inquiry, we would like to inform you that Android™ 5.0 supports the new camera features via android.hardware.camera2, and Google™ defines three modes for the new camera features:
1.Legacy mode (no support RAW capture)
2.Limited mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
3.Full mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
Currently, Xperia™ supports Legacy mode in our Lollipop update which incorporate features and functionality in addition to our already renowned camera experience.
As always, we monitoring our customer expectations and regarding supporting taking pictures in RAW format, we will consider this for the future if there is a popular demand.
They write the exxact same thing everytime.We have to push them harder to succeed.
@BlAckXpeRia
Let's show them the demand
Actually i think its nothing more than scripted customer care reply...It will take a lot of work for them to incorporate camera 2 api in our devices and i don't think they will bother..maybe incorporate it in future devices or something.
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@BlAckXpeRia
Let's show them the demand
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I think we did it! Look at the Z3+. It supports all manual functions exept RAW.
BlAckXpeRia said:
I think we did it! Look at the Z3+. It supports all manual functions exept RAW.
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''We did it'' one may say only when Sony pushes this API on all LP devices. Untill then, and i think they will keep it that way because they need to seel the new phone somehow, we should keep raising our voice, as it is not fair to have a damn good hardware that is ''ruined'' by lousy software. They need to enhance it ASAP in my opinion, or else Sony is risking a bad reputation going even worse...
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''We did it'' one may say only when Sony pushes this API on all LP devices. Untill then, and i think they will keep it that way because they need to seel the new phone somehow, we should keep raising our voice, as it is not fair to have a damn good hardware that is ''ruined'' by lousy software. They need to enhance it ASAP in my opinion, or else Sony is risking a bad reputation going even worse...
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I think it will come atleast for Z2 and Z3. They are really similar. But no matter what Sony does, I am stuck with them. I just can't get away from that beautiful design and software. All other manufactures have things I hate(LG-plastic, Samsung-software, nexus line and motorola- awful camera). My only problem with Sony is the new API. And they don't forget their devices-even the 2012 xperia z has lollipop and may get M.
Its not guaranteed to come to z3 or even z2, z1 and grampa z we can now easily forget since z has an expired 18 months period and z1 is close to expiration... Further on, LG G$ as it stands has way more superior camera then z3, Samsung is also investing hugely in marketing, and only thing Sony needs to do basically to survive is to a) improve software department, not so much the overall UI but software in camera for instance, it lags behind Samsung, Apple and LG as things stand, but they mosty use Sony's hardware, more limited one, so there is no objection for not handling software part more effectivley. and B) to improve customer relations, as we all know Sony is always lagging with announcments for new software features, heck they event dont know if the M2 or T3 are in plans for LP upgrade (which is lousy)!!!!
Onwards, remember the explanation provided for question wheter Sony will publish and software update for camera2 API or not, Sony gave as a bunch of c**p and basically told us ''oh, go f**k yourself with that'' masked in ''if there will be public demand we will then see...''
Of corse there is public demand, why wouldn't there be on since people always appreciate good featured updates. Look at Samsung, they are doing everything they can to fix camera things, publishing updates more oftenlly then Sony Social networks CM published something on either Social network used by Sony.
To all those who want to know more about Project Treble please use this thread to discuss about it.
What is Project Treble?
Ans. Treble is the most significant low-level change to the Android platform to date. To simplify heavily, it separates the vendor implementation from the Android framework in an effort to avoid lengthy waits for updates. . Let’s break things down a bit more:
The full update process to bring a new Android version to devices is a long and complex topic.
The “vendor” usually refers to silicon-manufacturers such as Qualcomm, but can also refer to the maker of any other proprietary hardware found in a device. The “device maker” or “OEM” usually needs to wait for the vendor to update their code so the proprietary hardware works with the Android OS framework in a newer version of Android.
However, what is happening with Project Treble is that Google is requiring that any vendor-specific code be separated from the Android OS framework and instead live in its own vendor implementation. Usually this means that there is now a separate /vendor partition on Treble-enabled smartphones that contains a bunch of HALs (Hardware Abstraction Layers).
Furthermore, vendors must implement code that lets the Android OS framework communicate with HALs in a standardized way. This is done via HIDL (HAL Interface Definition Language). With this in place, an OEM can work on an Android update without having to wait on vendors to update their HALs. Theoretically, this should speed up the entire Android update process as vendors can update their code at any time through the Play Store.
For indepth information check out this pagehttps://www.androidauthority.com/project-treble-818225/
Devices with Treble support:
- Essential PH-1
- Google Pixel
- Google Pixel XL
- HTC U11 Plus
- Huawei Honor 8 Pro
- Huawei Mate 9
- Huawei Mate 10 Pro
- Sony Xperia XZ1
- Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact
- Asus Zenfone 4 (ZE554KL)
- Honor V10
- Huawei P10/ P10 Plus
Devices which will ship with Android 8.0 Oreo will be Treble compatible by default.
Older devices will become treble compatible if the OEM creates a vendor partition via OTA update, like the Honor 8 Pro.
Custom Roms:
As of now @phhusson is working hard to make his AOSP rom boot as a fully functional rom on all the Treble supported devices, go check out the rom thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...evelopment/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659"]
Check Treble Compability
Open a terminal app on your device and simply type the following command:
getprop ro.treble.enabled
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If it returns a boolean value true, your device supports Treble and if false it doesn’t.
[NOTE: New devices with Treble support are launching so its not possible for me to update the supported device list, so they'll not make their name on my list, but you can surely ask about your device on the discussion thread]
My understanding of Treble is, from the *big picture* anyway, that the responsibility for hardware access shifts from Google to the individual device mfgs.
The hope for us is that new versions of Android can be distributed much more rapidly, because testing of new hardware (or changes to existing hdw) won't have to wait for the new OS to be done, and that the interface to the hdw will be separate from the OS.
Another hope would be that a devices 'life span' would increase? (or at least stay current longer).
AsItLies said:
My understanding of Treble is, from the *big picture* anyway, that the responsibility for hardware access shifts from Google to the individual device mfgs.
The hope for us is that new versions of Android can be distributed much more rapidly, because testing of new hardware (or changes to existing hdw) won't have to wait for the new OS to be done, and that the interface to the hdw will be separate from the OS.
Another hope would be that a devices 'life span' would increase? (or at least stay current longer).
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Treble means separating the vendor source from the software source, the treble devices will have a separate vendor partition, in which the vendor source will be. Now the manufacturers will only require to make the Software bug free so that the user dosent face any problems in day to day usage. From @phhussons AOSP treble rom we can get a clear picture that by separating the vendor source, the Treble based AOSP roms will run on any Treble compatible device regardless of the SOC/hardware configuration.
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Treble means separating the vendor source from the software source, the treble devices will have a separate vendor partition, in which the vendor source will be. <snip>
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Ah yes that makes sense, it's not only the hardware source (vendor specific), it's also the vendors software (their mods and bloatware) that will be in the separate partition.
It really does sound as though this should speed up the time it takes for users to get updates of all kinds. It also seems pretty certain, non-Treble enabled devices will fall by the wayside. Doesn't seem there's any way around that?
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Ah yes that makes sense, it's not only the hardware source (vendor specific), it's also the vendors software (their mods and bloatware) that will be in the separate partition.
It really does sound as though this should speed up the time it takes for users to get updates of all kinds. It also seems pretty certain, non-Treble enabled devices will fall by the wayside. Doesn't seem there's any way around that?
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For non-treble devices the only way is that the OEMs must release an OTA update which will create a separate Vendor partition, but OEMs won't do(except some recent flagships) that bcz they want sales of newer devices with Treble support. As far as time is concerned, suppose it takes 2-3months for an OEM to build a fully bug free update, but it will require 3-4weeks for the OEM to build that same update
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For non-treble devices the only way is that the OEMs must release an OTA update which will create a separate Vendor partition
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Yes, it seems the consensus is that mfg's won't risk bricking the phones by doing that kind of an OTA update? We'll see fairly soon what they'll do with the older devices.
It's good that google is calling the shots with this and is insisting new Oreo devices have it. It's bad though that devices just a few months old that cost mucho bucks may go without it.
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Yes, it seems the consensus is that mfg's won't risk bricking the phones by doing that kind of an OTA update? We'll see fairly soon what they'll do with the older devices.
It's good that google is calling the shots with this and is insisting new Oreo devices have it. It's bad though that devices just a few months old that cost mucho bucks may go without it.
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The honor 8 pro got Treble via OTA because it was one of the best selling device, but some OEMs will prefer not to do that so that customers will shift to newer devices. Like OnePlus could have easily added Treble to atleast 5/5T but they thought of not doing it, just depends upon the OEM
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The honor 8 pro got Treble via OTA because it was one of the best selling device
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Wow, I did not know that, thanks. I better read more of the Treble threads to keep up to date
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Wow, I did not know that, thanks. I better read more of the Treble threads to keep up to date
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yep surely
Mate 9 as well
AsItLies said:
Wow, I did not know that, thanks. I better read more of the Treble threads to keep up to date
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Mate 9 got treble as well with the Oreo update, major repartitioning as well.
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Mate 9 got treble as well with the Oreo update, major repartitioning as well.
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Mate 9 is in the list bro, check OP
revjamescarver said:
Mate 9 got treble as well with the Oreo update, major repartitioning as well.
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Thanks Neighbor. Huawei is rapidly moving to the top of my list of phone mfg to buy. It doesn't look like the kirin processors have much los support, but with treble... well, it seems previous prerequisites are being turned upside down.
For sure, when one evaluates (buying) a phone, many factors are relevant. But for most (if not all) of us, how long the phone will stay up to date is probably at the top of that list.
Hope the other mfg's follow Huawei's lead here, else we'll have a lot of recently mfg phones with outdated sftwr soon.
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Thanks Neighbor. Huawei is rapidly moving to the top of my list of phone mfg to buy. It doesn't look like the kirin processors have much los support, but with treble... well, it seems previous prerequisites are being turned upside down.
For sure, when one evaluates (buying) a phone, many factors are relevant. But for most (if not all) of us, how long the phone will stay up to date is probably at the top of that list.
Hope the other mfg's follow Huawei's lead here, else we'll have a lot of recently mfg phones with outdated sftwr soon.
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Huawei is the 3rd most fastest growing OEM after Apple and Samsung. What stops me from buying a Honor Device is the Kirin SOC and apps like Google Camera port dosent work on the devices except devices with Snapdragon SOC, so will wait for a device with the specs like the Mi A1 and a 18:9 display
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Huawei is the 3rd most fastest growing OEM after Apple and Samsung. What stops me from buying a Honor Device is the Kirin SOC and apps like Google Camera port dosent work on the devices except devices with Snapdragon SOC, so will wait for a device with the specs like the Mi A1 and a 18:9 display
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Very good point. So even with Treble, which SOC (the phone has) will still be relevant in some respects. I have a G6 and think a wide angle lens is da bomb, but could easily do without all the glass 'bling'.
Kirin SoC
venom928 said:
Huawei is the 3rd most fastest growing OEM after Apple and Samsung. What stops me from buying a Honor Device is the Kirin SOC and apps like Google Camera port dosent work on the devices except devices with Snapdragon SOC, so will wait for a device with the specs like the Mi A1 and a 18:9 display
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Nothing at all wrong with the Kirin SoC, performance is on par with the Qualcomm SoC, only real downfall is that Huawei doesn't sell the Kirin to other oems, otherwise it would be more widespread. The Kirin 970 with its built in NPU and and gigabit LTE modem is going to give the Qualcomm 835/845 a run for their money. Of course the port of the new Google camera app is not going to give you more than the basic functionality as it was written specifically for Google pixel devices (it doesn't give you all the features on older Google or snapdragon devices either), I installed the port on my mate 9 and it was acceptable for basic camera functions but no matter what you do you're never going to get a port of something written for another device to have the same features or performance as the stock app written for your device.
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Nothing at all wrong with the Kirin SoC, performance is on par with the Qualcomm SoC, only real downfall is that Huawei doesn't sell the Kirin to other oems, otherwise it would be more widespread. The Kirin 970 with its built in NPU and and gigabit LTE modem is going to give the Qualcomm 835/845 a run for their money. Of course the port of the new Google camera app is not going to give you more than the basic functionality as it was written specifically for Google pixel devices (it doesn't give you all the features on older Google or snapdragon devices either), I installed the port on my mate 9 and it was acceptable for basic camera functions but no matter what you do you're never going to get a port of something written for another device to have the same features or performance as the stock app written for your device.
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I agree that the Kirin Processors are good, and the reason is Kirin is Huawei's home made processor so the pairing between Hardware and Software is perfectly optimisez for better performance and as far as Better Processing is concerned, after Apple Qualcomm holds the 2nd position no doubt, yeah in near future Kirin might surpass Qualcomm interms of performance no idea.
As far as the ported app is concerned I prefer stock android/custom roms over stock roms(MIUI/EMUI) and if someone ports the stock huawei camera for Los/RR running on Huawei devices itself, I'll surely go with a Kirin device but right now thats not available so after installing a custom rom I'll prefer Google camera app, if not the ported one, I'll go with the one available in Apkmirror, though this is my own preference as I'm addicted to using stock android and google apps suite, lets see how much development the Honor 7X gets, if it gets Treble support via OTA I'll go with it else the Mi A1 as of now is my 1st choice
I'm wondering, and the answer may be 'We don't know yet', but...
Many of us have used custom ROM's to avoid using an OEM's UI, bloatware, etc. Because Treble enabled phones will have a 'Vendor' partition (which will include these UI's etc), will that then mean the mfg's specific stuff can't really be (completely) removed the way an after market ROM does?
Of course, there's always ways of disabling mfg stuff, but Roms like Los just do it all in one fell swoop (much easier).
Do we know at this point how this will work with Treble?
Cheers and Happy New Year
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I'm wondering, and the answer may be 'We don't know yet', but...
Many of us have used custom ROM's to avoid using an OEM's UI, bloatware, etc. Because Treble enabled phones will have a 'Vendor' partition (which will include these UI's etc), will that then mean the mfg's specific stuff can't really be (completely) removed the way an after market ROM does?
Of course, there's always ways of disabling mfg stuff, but Roms like Los just do it all in one fell swoop (much easier).
Do we know at this point how this will work with Treble?
Cheers and Happy New Year
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The SOC source code will reside in the vendor partition, for example The Pixel XL has SD835 so the source code of the SOC will be there in itz Vendor partition. So if you are using a Treble enabled device such as the Huawei Mate 9 which has its own custom UI, if u flash a custom rom on it, the stock OS will get completely removed and the run ROM will run on it.
The Mgf's UI is a part of the system nd not of the vendor partition.
I am planning to buy Honor 7x, I found a thread on 7X forum which has Mount points and partition layout details for 7x. In the details, i can see below line, does this mean that phone supports Treble once updated to Oreo?
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Dec 24 10:46 vendor -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p47
Orignal thread link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/mount-partition-layout-profile-xml-t3727990
Thanks:good: in advance!!
indigo110 said:
I am planning to buy Honor 7x, I found a thread on 7X forum which has Mount points and partition layout details for 7x. In the details, i can see below line, does this mean that phone supports Treble once updated to Oreo?
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Dec 24 10:46 vendor -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p47
Orignal thread link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/mount-partition-layout-profile-xml-t3727990
Thanks:good: in advance!!
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It is evident from past experiences that the Honor 7X might get Treble via OTA update as the case was with Honor 8 Pro. The Honor 7X's source code got released a few weeks ago and I got some info that the Open Kirin team will also support the 7X so I guess the Open Kirin team will also release a Treble supported rom
So i know that everybody has been requesting that camera 2 API to be enabled by default. There have been multiple requests made to Xiaomi from social (mainly twitter) to MI forums and even in Google bug tracker to request the feature to be enabled in the next OTA. Thankfully one of Google employees asked their DEV teams directly and this is the response he got :
vi.. @google.com <vi.. @google.com> #9 Nov 2, 2018 05:44AM
Please find the below comment received from our development team:
"We continually talk with various Android manufacturers about camera quality and work to improve performance and features available to camera applications across the Android ecosystem. Starting with Android Pie, newly launching devices are expected to have newer camera HAL versions, which will enable better support for camera2."
Bug tracker issuetracker.google.com/issues/117853983 link
Thanks for the effort everyone :highfive:
We did it
I fail to see where the "confirmation" for the Mi A2 is , baited and outsmarted
Let's hope the A2 is included in "newly launching devices"
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I fail to see where the "confirmation" for the Mi A2 is , baited and outsmarted
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In the issue tracker, the response was to this thread ( Mi A2 Camera2 API support request )
Now we just need fingerprint gestures....
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So i know that everybody has been requesting that camera 2 API to be enabled by default. There have been multiple requests made to Xiaomi from social (mainly twitter) to MI forums and even in Google bug tracker to request the feature to be enabled in the next OTA. Thankfully one of Google employees asked their DEV teams directly and this is the response he got :
vi.. @google.com <vi.. @google.com> #9 Nov 2, 2018 05:44AM
Please find the below comment received from our development team:
"We continually talk with various Android manufacturers about camera quality and work to improve performance and features available to camera applications across the Android ecosystem. Starting with Android Pie, newly launching devices are expected to have newer camera HAL versions, which will enable better support for camera2."
Bug tracker issuetracker.google.com/issues/117853983 link
Thanks for the effort everyone :highfive:
We did it
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aww man it's a really great news now people see the power of mia2 Camera ? #Sonyimx486
But I already unlocked enabled camera2api with no OTA update loss. It's great news though!
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But I already unlocked enabled camera2api with no OTA update loss. It's great news though!
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Great Brother But i don't want to unlock now?
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Great Brother But i don't want to unlock now?
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Good news for you then! Hope we get the pie update soon
hope that also brings with it the arcore support.
Sorry but this is neither a confirmation nor proof we will see this enabled by default. Xiaomi will simply tell us that the A2 didn't launch with PIe so we dont give a *
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Sorry but this is neither a confirmation nor proof we will see this enabled by default. Xiaomi will simply tell us that the A2 didn't launch with PIe so we dont give a *
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Great Brother But i don't want to unlock now?
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Same here man ?
Benjamin_L said:
Sorry but this is neither a confirmation nor proof we will see this enabled by default. Xiaomi will simply tell us that the A2 didn't launch with PIe so we dont give a *
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Absolutely, in my opinion this is gonna happen, but also we don't lose anything keeping the hope
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They never did it for Mi A1 despite being an android one device.
Don't keep your hope's high.
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A1 didn't get pie though yet so we'll have to wait and see. But it's Xiaomi after all..
this thread is click bait
Well I have the Pie update for the Mi A2, and tried to installed the lastest apk from CelsoAzevedo, and it didn't work. Keep stopping. So I guess they didn't enabled it yet.
I updated my mi max 3 to android pie . unfortunately camera 2 api is not enabled.
this thread needs to be closed.
Can someone explain the reason that ARCore is not supported on the Pro M2? I also see a lot of camera apps listed as incompatible and I am assuming it has to do with no support for the Camera 2 API. Any ideas why Asus chose not to support these technologies and what (if anything) they will do about it? This phone which I just bought has less support than my 2 year old phone which supports both of these technologies. I feel like I moved backwards. Thanks in advance for any insights.
No one knows? I have searched and searched and came up with nothing.
ARCore requires certification, my best guest is it's not free so it does not work well in keeping the cost low. From list of devices, they are mostly not budget devices. I wouldn't know for sure. Check out this link https://developers.google.com/ar/discover/supported-devices
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ARCore requires certification, my best guest is it's not free so it does not work well in keeping the cost low. From list of devices, they are mostly not budget devices. I wouldn't know for sure. Check out this link https://developers.google.com/ar/discover/supported-devices
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You may well be right but Google generally likes to make these types of things free so that they can get market share a lot quicker for any given app, tech, etc. Curious if a modified arcore.apk would work to bypass whatever checks it is looking for.
Other possibility might be the cost of hardware requirement to comply with Google's standard.
well as many , i bought this from lenovo supposed official store on aliexpress and with a so called global rom
upon receipt i found that this version is a dissapointment in games while i expected 855 to run as expected 270k on antutu shows me that something is wrong with this , the rom is obviously a hacked hybrid rom with no rom upgrade capability ota. and i know this as i saw the chinese rom upgrade to july release.
the rom is here https://boycracked.com/2019/06/27/official-lenovo-z6-pro-l78051-stock-rom/
In the same boat here; Antutu is about 100k short of the norm, 3D mark scores (OpenGL especially) just as bad or worse.
I found enabling "Force GPU rendering" and especialy "Disable HW overlays" in Developer options an improvement. But this rom needs updates.
The Chinese rom has had a bunch of updates, reportedly fixing lots of bugs, improving camera quality and performance.
I'm waiting to hear back from the AliExpress 'official' Lenovo store if there will be official OTA updates for this phone. That's what they advertised with, so they can expect a dispute when they come up empty.
May be it's need open Lenozo Z6 forum, it seems that many people buy it and need forum to discuss about it
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May be it's need open Lenozo Z6 forum, it seems that many people buy it and need forum to discuss about it
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I agree with You. Lenovo z6 pro will need dedicated subforum.
For now i have seen 2 rom upgrade tutorials global and chinese version. As well as some issues reported like: notifications not working properly due to battery optimization issues. We need this subforum to make discussion possible.
So, how do we get a dedicated Z6 Pro subforum?
I think we need write to moderators xda
Hi guys,
I am considering buying this phone as it's the cheapest SD855 phone right now.
Just a few questions,
1. Is the global ROM an "official" Lenovo Z6 Pro Global ROM or it's only a rooted device running a stock-ish looking Android like Motorola?
2. In Aliexpress, there is a seller called "Lenovo Aliexpress Store"
https://lenovotech.aliexpress.com/store/5015097?spm=a2g0o.detail.100005.1.17ed620exNtnAc
- is this the "official" Lenovo store in Aliexpress?
3. I'm reading complaints about Global ROM having lower antutu benchmark scores but in real-life usage, is the performance like a midrange device (laggy, delay response when opening apps, etc).
I hope someone can help me decide if i should give it a go.
P.S. I bought the Motorola P30 (ZUI-based) from Aliexpress last year and in all honesty, ZUI s*cks.
There are too many bugs like
1. Special access to apps (accessibility, draw over apps), you NEED to give access every.single.time you open the app. ZUI will DISABLE access once you exit or turn off your phone!
2. Notifications will NOT work on 3rd party apps (even if you disabled battery optimizations, allowed notification per app etc).
3. Problem changing wallpaper of your 3rd party launcher (ex Nova launcher).
4. You can only watch 360p videos on Facebook
5. You can only upload 360p videos on Instagram stories
4&5 -- means, all the videos you watch on Facebook/Instagram are PIXELATED.
Too many bugs that I have decided to give it to my mom.
Regret buying this so called global version of Z6 Pro, with 8gb ram from a dodgy official seller on AliExpress as the purchase invoice that I received is from an unknown reseller.
Well this Z6 Pro unit has visible chromatic aberration on screen and warm tone which cannot be corrected from display options, FHD videos are not sharp or realistically 1080p enough. Has third class cheap user interface, 3D rendering is also jurky.
There are lots of other issues and bugs in it. To summarize I think ROM requires a major overhaul and the features that Lenovo marketed are not at all of any flagship handset but of a midranger.
If only Lenovo will just stop customizing their software and leave it as stock a la Motorola, at least for their global ROM.
Mainland Chinese consumers are different from the rest and i get that ZUI is important.
The bugs are due to ZUI not compliant to Google Services.
Anyway, I still think Lenovo Z6 Pro is a good buy among all other SD855 devices just because it's the cheapest.
And take note, you CAN install GCam apk with the device and the quality is comparable to a Pixel 3.
I do own a Z6 Pro (official Firmware): it is nice (if you can use the english firmware), but you have to configure and personalize a lot and even then it is not comparable with other (more known) Smartphone brands. Launcher und UI is different. Battery and & Display is very nice. If you rely on WhatsApp/Telegram or other Push services: simply don't buy it.
AnTuTu is 359528, latest firmware is 11.0.575
My review (in German): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThSfE9riv8
I also own a Lenovo Z6 Pro aqcuired from from Lenovo official store (aliexpress /store/900160001) With so called Global ROM (11.0.211 ST). No OTAs after arrival, around 2 weeks ago.
It punctuates low on Antutu (~278k) because of GPU problems, but quite high on Geekbench (3.5k single, 10.5k multi).
Doesn't seem laggy to me.
I don't have problems with notifications on Whatsapp or Telegram.
Photos are quite good in rear camera, and good to average with tele and wide-angle. Don't use front camera, can't tell.
To get EIS on videos taken with main camera I use Google Photos.
To make rear camera great instead of very good I use arnova8g2 's Gcam 6.2.030 advanced mod.
I've claimed a dispute with AliExpress over the global Z6 Pro from the 'official' AliExpress Lenovo store. I'm offered a €70,- refund, or the option to return the phone for free for a full refund.
I'm not sure what to do. I like the phone, but if it wont be updated from the current 11.0.211, or gains any community mod support, I'd rather return it.
What would you guys do?
Regards,
Marc
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dragon-tmd said:
I do own a Z6 Pro (official Firmware): it is nice (if you can use the english firmware), but you have to configure and personalize a lot and even then it it not comparable with other (more known) Smartphone brands. Launcher und UI is different. Battery and & Display is very nice. If you rely on WhatsApp/Telegram or other Push services: simply don't buy it.
AnTuTu is 359528, latest firmware is 11.0.575
My review (in German): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThSfE9riv8
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Sorry if this was answered in your review, but you are running official Chinese firmware which has an English language option? Were you able to install google play store?
Just watched your review, very informative I must say. I wish I had opted for the Chinese version, as that seems to work just fine in your review. English language suits me nicely, and installing Play store seemed quite straightforward in your review.
Anyone know of a way to install an official chinese rom on our global versions? Because that would make my Z6 Pro a lot more desirable.
To answer my own question; I found the below thread on how to flash an official chinese Lenovo rom on our Global Z6 Pro's.
I'm away from home for another week, but will hang on to my Z6 Pro for a bit to see how I like it with the Chinese rom and manually added Google Play store.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/rom-lenovo-z6-pro-l78051-qpst-edl-t3947149
the Chinese rom is arguably better than the global hacked so I do not advise buying the device with the global rom. you can install the play store and everything works correctly.
Below is a short video of the mobile phone's desktop and setup.
alexeei said:
I think we need write to moderators xda
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Please refer to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
Rivaven said:
the Chinese rom is arguably better than the global hacked so I do not advise buying the device with the global rom. you can install the play store and everything works correctly.
Below is a short video of the mobile phone's desktop and setup.
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I have installed and WhatsApp does not notify with sound and phone apk do does not initiate call from recent or contacts
Any hopes for the custom rom devs to support the Z6 lineup?
nakarmkir69 said:
I have installed and WhatsApp does not notify with sound and phone apk do does not initiate call from recent or contacts
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Yes no sound for WhatsApp and I use the phone app to make calls.
Same issue here. Chinese rom, amazing performance, but no notification sound for Whatsapp. And sometimes i have to open Whatsapp to receive messages, even with the app locked (configured in Security). If someone has the original global rom please share with us.
guys, who have 11.0.211st pseudo global version, do not update it to 11.0.257st, it brings lots of troubles. The navigation buttons work wrong, the cellular connection is unstable. All that makes the phone as a tool tp crack the nuts. I do not know how to downgrade the firmware back to 211, because Lenovo does not give the firmware.
All pushes in whatsapp and other apps fixed, if you have root and installed microG (use signature spoofing with magisk module) instead of preinstalled Gapps. I install it, set doze mode for whatsapp, send message after 1 hour of sleeping phone and message successfully showed.