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This may be a known issue but my wife's (non-rooted, completely stock) A500 has been getting a 4.0 OTA notification since yesterday. It says it's invalid, after downloading it, so I ASSUME it's not actually for this device but is that the case? If it is for the A500, do I need to do a factory reset to get it to update?
Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
What version is it running currently? 7.014.02
I have not seen anything since the 7.014.01/02 releases a few days back.
It would be nice to see Acer taking the lead on releases but I will believe it when it happens. The. 02 release did have a new to me update screen when it installed....
Wowsher
I think I know what one of the issues is- This must have been some really old stock (bestbuy.com) because it's running 3.0.1 and the kernal version is 26.36.3-00001-g9b3ce2b. Is it possible that it's somehow "skipping" the OTA updates in the correct order (or maybe they aren't available OTA anymore?) and thus giving me the "invalid" message?
yep would not surprise me at all... you should be able to download from a thread in the rom area a thread by vache has links to almost all of them.
You should probably change the thread title if you can.
Wowsher
There have been others with similar issues.Seems like acer did not and is not pushing the updates to some devices.
I would first call acer if you. Not likely to help but would atleast let them know they have issue.
For a right now fix.
Get iconiaroot. Root tablet.
Get acer recovery installer. Install custom recovery.
Look on forums for a stock 3.1 or 3.2 rom.
You can get a ore rooted rom if you wish but would kill all updates in future.
There are lots of information in the dev forums on step by step instructions and downloads.
Be careful fallow instructions.
Good luck.
The 4.0.xxxx update, is an update for UI. It should come in 2 notifications for stock tablets.
The first, is a preparatory update. The second, is the actual update.
Note, if you have a rooted tab, as some people can tell, it is not advisable to take any OTA update from acer.
In the forum, if you want to take the update, there is a thread which has rooted versions of these updates.
Hey everyone,
Just wanted to ask a quick question regarding the firmware
I got my UK unlocked S5 last week and as soon as I set it up, an update came through, which is 100mb, the note regarding say "Improved performance", the update download, but I haven't installed it yet. Mainly because of a bad experience I had after updating my S3. I haven't come across any bugs since I've been using it, and I'm concerned that if I update, the battery will drain quicker, or perhaps cause an error in the recovery mode(these things happened to my S3 after updating to 4.3). So 2 main questions.
1. Has anyone here downloaded this 100mb software update their S5? If so, what differences did you notice?
2. Suppose I updated and wasn't happy with the new changes? Would it be possible to go back to the original firmware version that my phone came with when I took it out of the box, *without rooting my S5?
Hope some people on here can shed some light on these questions.
Thank you in advance*
1. It's just a system update. The phone is new there are bound to be updates as issues are ironed out
2. You can odin any firmware whenever you want
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Has anyone here downloaded this 100mb software update their S5? If so, what differences did you notice?
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Your instincts are dead on. Updates may fix bugs or add a desireable feature. But just as often they introduce new bugs, break root or disable root exploits, break a few apps and add noxious DRM frameworks like the Knox qfuse warranty bit. They can seriously mess up a custom ROM and may depreciate features like MSC or car dock that may be important to you personally.
Updates cannot always be reverted. Try downgrading your Kitkat baseband to Jellybean and see what happens. Or try removing the Knox security bit after you take the update that introduced it. I disable automatic updates and wait to hear what early adopters find before upgrading.
Unfortunately you didn't tell us the all important version of your update. Or even tell us what your current firmware version and carrier are. Your update might be similar to the recent ATT /Verizon OTA adding the mixed blessing of reactivation lock. That is causing bootloops for some people with custom kermels. 4.4.3 is mostly bug fixes, with a few UI tweaks. And I believe 4.4.4 took aim at closing yet another open-SSL exploit and reverting some of the new 4.4.3 bugs.
No matter what an update intends to do, a few new bugs and unexpected conflicts usually turn up. A quick Google finds reports like this:
International Business Times said:
Issues Spotted for the Android 4.4.3 Kitkat
The Android 4.4.3 Kitkat system update is pretty much all about improving performances, strengthening stability and fixing a couple of bugs. However, it reels in a couple of issues experienced by users of Nexus devices that have already been upgraded to the latest update.
According to IT Pro, some of these issues include wi-fi problems, crashes and reboots and bugs found in apps. Google has not yet given any statement about how to deal with these issues nor has there been any word if these issues are only experienced by a handful.
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Your instincts are dead on. Updates may fix bugs or add a desireable feature. But just as often they introduce new bugs, break root or disable root exploits, break a few apps and add noxious DRM frameworks like the Knox qfuse warranty bit. They can seriously mess up a custom ROM and may depreciate features like MSC or car dock that may be important to you personally.
Updates cannot always be reverted. Try downgrading your Kitkat baseband to Jellybean and see what happens. Or try removing the Knox security bit after you take the update that introduced it. I disable automatic updates and wait to hear what early adopters find before upgrading.
Unfortunately you didn't tell us the all important version of your update. Or even tell us what your current firmware version and carrier are. Your update might be similar to the recent ATT /Verizon OTA adding the mixed blessing of reactivation lock. That is causing bootloops for some people with custom kermels. 4.4.3 is mostly bug fixes, with a few UI tweaks. And I believe 4.4.4 took aim at closing yet another open-SSL exploit and reverting some of the new 4.4.3 bugs.
No matter what an update intends to do, a few new bugs and unexpected conflicts usually turn up. A quick Google finds reports like this:
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Thank you very much for your detailed answers! That's exactly it! And I know from experience that updating firmware can cause a negative affect to the phone's performance. My iPhone 4S is still on iOS 5.1 but runs perfectly, while friends who updated their 4S to 7.1 experience freezes and heavy lag. Maybe companies do this deliberately, so people get frustrated and end up having to get the latest, more powerful model so the OS to run smoothly?
I do exactly the same, I always wait to see what people about an update before updating. The only difficulty with Android updates is that there seem to be so many different versions of updates. For example, when I researched the 100mb one for the S5,* various sites mentioned it, but others say the size of the update was 30mb, which were called "improved performance" I also heard about updates not always being able to be reverted to the previous version,* and also about Knox. So, you can see why I'm hesitant to update.
I know quite a bit about using Android, but have very limited knowledge regarding rooting and custom roms and so on. Also, after reading that rooting a phone incorrectly can turn it into a brick, I'm happy to just leave it as it is. I've attached a photo which shows my current firmware version, as well as other information. Also, as my S5 is unlocked, the only updates I'll receive will be from Samsung. I asked my carrier (T-Mobile UK) and that's what they told me. Only phones from bought from them include added apps that they put on, and I think they may also be able to tweak the updates received, by adding their own features.
Some more questions for you;
1. Do you recommend a factory reset after each software update?(I had to factory reset my S3 to stop the battery draining issue that 4.3 caused. But was wondering if it's best to factory reset after each and every update on Android devices)
2. I know you said that sometimes reverting back to a previous firmware isn't always possible, but can't using Odin with the correct firmware version work? Like Goldie mentioned in the above reply. And does changing the firmware via Odin require rooting the phone?
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Thank you very much for your detailed answers! That's exactly it! And I know from experience that updating firmware can cause a negative affect to the phone's performance. My iPhone 4S is still on iOS 5.1 but runs perfectly, while friends who updated their 4S to 7.1 experience freezes and heavy lag. Maybe companies do this deliberately, so people get frustrated and end up having to get the latest, more powerful model so the OS to run smoothly?
I do exactly the same, I always wait to see what people about an update before updating. The only difficulty with Android updates is that there seem to be so many different versions of updates. For example, when I researched the 100mb one for the S5,* various sites mentioned it, but others say the size of the update was 30mb, which were called "improved performance" I also heard about updates not always being able to be reverted to the previous version,* and also about Knox. So, you can see why I'm hesitant to update.
I know quite a bit about using Android, but have very limited knowledge regarding rooting and custom roms and so on. Also, after reading that rooting a phone incorrectly can turn it into a brick, I'm happy to just leave it as it is. I've attached a photo which shows my current firmware version, as well as other information. Also, as my S5 is unlocked, the only updates I'll receive will be from Samsung. I asked my carrier (T-Mobile UK) and that's what they told me. Only phones from bought from them include added apps that they put on, and I think they may also be able to tweak the updates received, by adding their own features.
Some more questions for you;
1. Do you recommend a factory reset after each software update?(I had to factory reset my S3 to stop the battery draining issue that 4.3 caused. But was wondering if it's best to factory reset after each and every update on Android devices)
2. I know you said that sometimes reverting back to a previous firmware isn't always possible, but can't using Odin with the correct firmware version work? Like Goldie mentioned in the above reply. And does changing the firmware via Odin require rooting the phone?
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1. Yes, a data factory reset after a update/flash a rom is remmended and gives best performance and stability;
2. I haven`t tried flashing a older rom itself but it should be possible i guess as this is not dowgrading like from 4.4.2 to 4.3. You could try it and if it fails there`s no harm done as you can flash your current rom back.
3. Installing a update or flash a rom usualy will kill root, though superSU Pro offers a survival mode to keep root after a update. You can also flash a rom with Mobile Odin Pro and enable everroot and the 2 other options so you will not loose root.
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I don't automatically accept updates. Someone more impulsive, or indifferent can be the guinea pig. That approach is effective in avoiding some unpleasant firmware surprises. Often an older firmware version runs smoother and is more stable as in your IOS 5 vs 7 example. Running an older firmware means that you may have unpatched security vulnerabilities but in practice this usually isn't a great or unmanageable problem. It is a point to keep in mind though.
Rooting isn't nearly as dangerous as many people think it is. Someone who can follow directions and avoid flashing firmware from a completely different device will rarely brick a phone. And even if you did, you can usually recover from the mishap. I mention this because one of the best ways to maintain a stable phone OS is to install a decent custom ROM (which typically requires root). And then most of the heavy lifting is done by the developer who has already removed bloat, restrictions and other objectionable pieces. And monitors and releases tailored and usually stable updates for those using his ROM.
Android updates vary in size because they are screened by carriers, each deciding what update components and /or custom bits goes into their version of the update. More restrictive Apple manages all IOS updates centrally from their California servers i.e. they don't relinquish direct control to carriers. Still it isn't hard to find articles giving a good summary of what issues android firmware updates are addressing.
Some people believe that you should accept every update and as soon as it becomes available. I don't see a compelling need to update unless you are trying to resolve a current bug or are enticed by a specific new feature. I don't recommend a factory reset after each update. I do recommend that you clear the system cache from recovery mode though. A factory reset usually won't benefit you but it is time consuming to reinstall and reconfigure your phone.
Having said that, if you have a specific issue, such as the 4.3 battery drain then you have a rationale for doing so. But I have to say that I experienced the same S3 issue and clearing the cache was sufficient to stabilize the phone for me. Some phones will develop corruption or configuration conflicts over time, especially if you install a lot of apps. Or if you have a specific app that makes a mess of your file system. With that in mind, I do do a factory reset about once a year to clean up the phone, the same as I would do for a laptop OS. But I don't see a reason to do it after every update.
Odin is a Samsung product, complete with DRM. So no, you cannot flash anything with Odin. You can flash most stock firmware and in particular Odin will look for OEM signatures if you try to change the bootloader or modem. In the case of downgrading, it is the Knox qfuse on your phone that will cause the Odin flash to fail. If you try to downgrade you end up with a partial flash which can soft brick your phone and trip the Knox flag.
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Just for the purpose of tracking the rolling out process in the north America region, let's try collecting some date information when you receive the rollout. The process of this upgrade could become a helpful guideline for future upgrade events in the region! Models L04 and L14 might be involved. Let's also comment on your state, wireless service provider, if you are in the beta group and when you got the phone to see if anything is correlated. Please take a minute to fill out the form:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XULbGwxpO0s_RH9EzbvWjLP48MNCz7vkolbT0TiMf7s/edit?usp=sharing
Thank you!
Now, on the official Honor_USA social account, https://twitter.com/Honor_USA, N is coming on Feb 11th. Period.
Update: from Rox_honor, it's officially released on Feb 10th in the US. Some people have had this update already.
To force the update, you can check the method posted on Page 2, #16: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70992090&postcount=16.
Reserve for updating statistics, if possible. Again, the Google Spreadsheet to fill out is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XULbGwxpO0s_RH9EzbvWjLP48MNCz7vkolbT0TiMf7s/edit?usp=sharing
Feel free to add more columns if you think they are helpful.
So far it seems that only T-Mobile users are getting the update. Just tried to update my Mom's phone, we are on Cricket (AT&T) and there was no update for her. Tried putting it on airplane and restarting but still nothing. I'll probably try again tomorrow.
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So far it seems that only T-Mobile users are getting the update. Just tried to update my Mom's phone, we are on Cricket (AT&T) and there was no update for her. Tried putting it on airplane and restarting but still nothing. I'll probably try again tomorrow.
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There is one entry reporting received the update while on Straight Talk. We need to have more data in order to figure out the rollout sequence. GOOD LUCK!
i purchased the Unlocked Honor 8 from US (amazon). But I'm an indian user and I'm using it with an indian carrier . will i get the update as the other north american devices or do i have to wait longer
Did not get the update (FRD - L04)
But I forgot whether or not the L04 is international or US (i live in the US though)
yeah i havent gotten it either still says no updates available
I haven't received the update either on L04. I read on the other thread that it rolls out in small batches.
Edit: Here's the post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70964112&postcount=392
Nothing on L04 AT&T yet. Purchased from NewEgg and first activated in December.
Got it 3 weeks ago. L04 from b&h.
Bought it unlocked at Frys a week ago and received the update yesterday. I just want to caution all rooted and unlocked users! I received the update yesterday and upgraded it like a fool. I cant get into twrp recovery and the stock recovery seems to be broken. I even installed a newer twrp thru fastboot but im still not able to go into recovery. Im looking through all the forums but no one seems to have this problems yet. Im still waiting on some help if anyone has a solution. So please be aware before updating. Hopefully Im the only one with this problem.
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Bought it unlocked at Frys a week ago and received the update yesterday. I just want to caution all rooted and unlocked users! I received the update yesterday and upgraded it like a fool. I cant get into twrp recovery and the stock recovery seems to be broken. I even installed a newer twrp thru fastboot but im still not able to go into recovery. Im looking through all the forums but no one seems to have this problems yet. Im still waiting on some help if anyone has a solution. So please be aware before updating. Hopefully Im the only one with this problem.
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Ahh, I was an idiot and had the same thing.
What happened is that I was rooted, and installed via Charles app, and it bugged out.
The reason for that is that TWRP can't install the stock ROM.
You need to get into fastboot, and reflash the stock recovery, and use it to dload the emui 4.1 file. Make sure you get the full package version.
After that it will be all wiped. You might run into a few errors but let the recovery do its thing.
You'll eventually be able to boot into the OS and then run the update normally.
I want to root my honor 8 on nougat, but I'm waiting for a patch from Huawei first because of all the bugs, just because of this.
Also I don't think rooting the honour 8 on nougat works that we'll yet, hopefully someone comes up with a method that doesn't suck so hard.
Hopefully they'll do it quickly.
Do you mind pointing me to the right direction to find those files? stock recovery and the 4.1.
Ive seen the rollback files... is that what you're talking about?
yomomsbigpimp said:
Do you mind pointing me to the right direction to find those files? stock recovery and the 4.1.
Ive seen the rollback files... is that what you're talking about?
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I used the firmware finder tool for it. You can get it for Windows. It's somewhere around the forum, but you can probably Google it.
Once you get the full package you can extract the recovery.img from it.
Unlocked FRD-L04 bought from Amazon. Living in Argentina. Got update yesterday. Really happy with it.
Folks, if you are impatient, you can use the Firmware Finder to send the Firmware B360 (I am using the Jan 3 one) to your Updater for a full package update. More information can be found at https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/news-huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3550882
A few notes here from my personal experience:
1. Once you set up the proxy from the Finder's proxy app which should be downloaded after you enabled the "send firmware to updater" (check notification afterward), you then click on the latest firmware # and "send firmware to updater".
2. On the Setting/Updater, click the menu and use "Download full update package", which should direct you to a 2.27Gb package (not the 1.28Gb package, or you will not be able to login!) and click on the "Quick update" button. You may need to wait for a while to see this option. Up to now, you may not be able to download anything yet.
3. Go back to the wifi setting and turn on proxy setting to "None" again and reconnect with the wifi network. Now you should pause the Updater and then resume it. You should now be able to download the full package and install it.
4. After all the update process, it could be helpful to charge your phone without the screen turning on. This is told to be useful to optimize the battery performance immediately after the update. The phone might be slow in a couple of hours as optimizations are going on in the background. But everything will become normal afterward
Good luck!
bought L04 from newegg using it in Pakistan no update for me as of yet
This is all bulls*it. Same update we got in january, and by the way, it's buggy.
L04 here, bought from Amazon about a month ago. Running on T-Mobile US. Still no update yet.
Is there any way to change the white notification background? I prefer the old color scheme, Mich easier on the eyes at night.
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Edit: Received update on US single SIM L04 on Straight Talk, ATT towers.
If i install the UK fingerprint version here . Will the update still come to my phone? I see they have new updates now and oreo 8 is coming. Will i be able to install those from within the device or will i run into issues?
Also are there any issues using the UK rom over the US rom?
Also are there any better ways to enable the fingerprint sensor without install the UK version?
Does it also void warranty?
Thanks!
I'm in the US & I installed the UK ROM you link to above. It works as advertised. I wondered about receiving the update as well and read through the entire thread. It says you will be able to receive updates and you won't void your warranty since you are flashing official firmware. Of course that is just a post on an internet forum and carries no weight. Other than the warranty does it really matter? You can always update using Flashtool.
Yesterday I updated to 8.0 following this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/stock-8-0-root-recovery-t3747479 and now I have 8.0, my bootloader is unlocked, I have root, adaway, my phone passes safetynet, and most importantly it still works..
There are some subtle differences between N & O that have made it worthwhile. Sorry I can't be of more help, I can only share my positive experience.
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I'm in the US & I installed the UK ROM you link to above. It works as advertised. I wondered about receiving the update as well and read through the entire thread. It says you will be able to receive updates and you won't void your warranty since you are flashing official firmware. Of course that is just a post on an internet forum and carries no weight. Other than the warranty does it really matter? You can always update using Flashtool.
Yesterday I updated to 8.0 following this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/stock-8-0-root-recovery-t3747479 and now I have 8.0, my bootloader is unlocked, I have root, adaway, my phone passes safetynet, and most importantly it still works..
There are some subtle differences between N & O that have made it worthwhile. Sorry I can't be of more help, I can only share my positive experience.
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if you unlocked your bootloader, while you might be if there is an update, you can't just download and apply it from phone. If you're only interested in major android upgrade, this won't be a problem as at most we probably will only got one more android major version update (or none, it will be close to two years after device release).
If you are interested on monthly security update though, this could be a pain to flash manually each month
So if i just install the UK via the xperia flash tool method here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/fingerprint-reader-version-flash-t3470154) , will i get OTA updates for security patches? Or do i have to manually do it every time?
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So if i just install the UK via the xperia flash tool method here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/fingerprint-reader-version-flash-t3470154) , will i get OTA updates for security patches? Or do i have to manually do it every time?
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Yes, you will receive updates as long as you do not tamper with the bootloader or recovery. If for some reason it doesn't work you can always use flashtool to apply an update. The convenience of the fingerprint reader working far outweighs the inconvenience of having to update a phone with a computer.
Greetings devs and members:
I have recently begun using a Moto G5 Plus (XT1687 - N. American SKU) that was never updated (due to being in a drawer someplace).
I know that many things have been unlocked and improved by the devs for this particular handset. My question is simply this:
How should I update it? Should I update it?
Should I go OTA (retus) (currently blocking), or should I bypass everything and go directly to Oreo (using the update file, after a factory reset and such)?
Or, hell should I stick with Nougat right now? It seems that lots of folks are having issues, and I just wanted a more informed opinion.
Thank you.
sinister008 said:
Greetings devs and members:
I have recently begun using a Moto G5 Plus (XT1687) that was never updated (due to being in a drawer someplace).
I know that many things have been unlocked and improved by the devs for this particular handset. My question is simply this:
How should I update it? Should I update it?
Should I go OTA (retus) (currently blocking), or should I bypass everything and go directly to Oreo (using the update file, after a factory reset and such)?
Or, hell should I stick with Nougat right now? It seems that lots of folks are having issues, and I just wanted a more informed opinion.
Thank you.
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To stay with Nougat is not a bad choice, it's a well working system.
If you want to get to Oreo just apply all the OTA updates until you're there. No need to do anything else if your device isn't rooted or the system has been tampered in any other way.
Both firmwares seem to work well.
If the phone is not rooted, then OTA updates are the easiest. Make sure the phone is fully charged or plug it in first. Go to about phone, go to check system updates, accept OTAs until it says up to date, which is likely be Oreo. If it stops at -18 the it may take a few days before the phone alters you to Oreo update.