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Connect Athena to external touch screen monitor, possibile?

Hi guys, i am currently trying to set up my Athena with my car, i wonder if it's possible to connect my Athena with a external touch screen monitor like this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-INCH-TOUCH-...9QQihZ005QQcategoryZ32826QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
throw the VGA cable.
I know it will display the screen throw VGA out, but I am not sure whether it will enable the touch screen function, any of you know this?
Thanks a lot
p.s. I will post some screen shot if I succeed in this project.

Is that a PS2 port?
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?

inframan said:
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?
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I am sure you don't need a pen, there are lots of touch screen out there, for example this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
I just don't know if we simply plug in the vga cable from our Athena to the touch screen, will that work?
Possibility not, I can kind of see a usb cable there, how about plug that in the usb host ? but then maybe we still need to install the driver.....
Basically, what I am trying to do here to use get a bigger screen to show for Athena in a car. So, I will then have much bigger TOMTOM, and also can watch movie or go on internet.
Any good suggestion guys? Thanks a lot for all your help.

I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.

johnwalk said:
I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.
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it seems like they all need to install driver, do you think it will work without driver?

thats the only problem, does it need specialist drivers? I havnt been able to come up with an answer yet.
But i wont be buying one for the car, somone nicked me vario yesterday from the car so not even chancing the Ameo.
I was just going to buy a little 7" tv I bought this tiny Keyboard out of Maplin on offer. thought it would look sweet in the car. but this is giving me other ideas, anybody shed light!

They ALL need specialist drivers.
Touchscreen is absolute position, mouse is relative. You NEED the custom driver. It may be possible, but I dont know how.

1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.

Basmelek said:
1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.
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Thanks for your answer, i just ask one of the seller there on ebay, and the answer I got is I will be able to plug the VGA cable in, that will enable the screen to display, but in order to get the touch screen working, I also need to plug in a USB, so now the question is whether the USB host will work on this....and of course the driver need to work too

The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.

IT WORKS!
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.

Pyrofer said:
The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.
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Your on the right track with this answer,
Look for a touch screen that has a protocol that is treated as a standard HID ( Human interface device ) Ie:mouse, keyboard etc.etc.
if you can find such a device then the built in drivers for plug and play HID's will work fine.
otherwise the rest are right

Did this really work??? What car? This would simply be quite fantabulous.
cyberlancer said:
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.
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Wireless Keyboard and/or mouse

Is there anyway to get a wireless keyboard/mouse working. I have a media center keyboard with trackball and nothing happens with just plugging in the USB.

Thats strange, I have plugged in many USB devices and have had no issues with them working, keyboard, mouse etc....are you on the newest firmware?

Yes, I am on the latest firmware but keep in mind I am talking about a wireless dongle for a wireless keyboard and not a usb keyboard. Are you using a wireless keyboard or mouse?

i have an old logitech wireless mouse - works goog, but klicking is a little bit hard to do - doubleklick and no good focus on the mouse.....maybe its my old mouse.....but in the german android-hilfe forums some users have the same issues...

A wireless dongle may either draw too much power or more likely require a funky driver. Does it require a special driver on a desktop system?
My suggestion would be to go with a Bluetooth keyboard, they seem to work well. I just got an Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard lashed up to my A70 today.

Yeah, I imagine it's a driver issue alright. Probably needs a software package to get it running correctly.
I have a wireless keyboard with a built in trackpad that works perfectly. This one is similiar but not the same. I normally have it for my media pc, but it works so well with the archos that I am thinking of buying a new one just for it.
IMO, if you can find a wireless device that works with just plug 'n play on a linux box then there is a good chance that it will work with your Archos.

Good to know guys. I don't think a specific driver is required in windows. I will give it another go.

Thanks for the input guys. I had to insert the usb before booting up and it works. Sure makes typing much much faster. One question though, how do you scroll up and down in Dolphin or any other browser?

[Q] Does any eInk Nook have hardware that could support a physical keyboard?

Please forgive my ignorance - I'm a fairly new developer and know very little about hardware.
The subject line of the post pretty much says it all. I'm looking for something inexpensive with an eInk screen that I can use to type on, as regular monitors tire out my eyes after a while. If no software exists, I'd be very happy to contribute to that development, which is part of why I was looking to the Nook (I'm most comfortable in Java).
Does the current model or any previous eInk model have the capacity to connect a physical keyboard? If not, are there any other eReaders that do have this ability? (I know I can get an eInk screen for a netbook, but I don't want to spend that much if I can avoid it.) I saw a few old threads discussing whether or not USB Host was possible, but none seemed to have a conclusive answer one way or another.
Thanks for your help!

I'm not quite sure if the current version has Bluetooth. But since it is android and if it does have Bluetooth. Chances are there would be the possibility of connecting a Bluetooth keyboard.
Another possibility is getting an eeepc network and replacing the screen yourself with a pixelqi screen. That should be easier on your eyes (though probably not so easy on your wallet)
Sent from a Galaxy S 2 Far Away

Sorry, Volcanolotus, but the STR does not have bluetooth. One further option for that would be use the usb connector, converting it to usb host, and adding the physical keyboard. It is just a concept, but it may work.

apeine said:
Sorry, Volcanolotus, but the STR does not have bluetooth. One further option for that would be use the usb connector, converting it to usb host, and adding the physical keyboard. It is just a concept, but it may work.
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Hm. I thought so too. Fret not! I just thought of a solution. It has wifi right... Use this! https://market.android.com/details?...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS52b2xvc3l1a2l2YW4iXQ..
Though its really a clumsy solution but a solution nonetheless

Though i love the nook, would not a kindle, already having a keyboard be a better option?
Now, in regards to using the USB port as a USB host, in regards to cell phones running android, the hardware is there, though software uses have been hit/miss on. ICS (Android 4.0) enables usb host functionality natively in the operating system, this will probably be your best bet for the functionality you want. The downside is that I would expect it to be atleast a year or longer before ICS comes to the nook.

keyboard now working
I asked verygreen to work on this and 24 hours later, voila.
(Nook Touch Android Development) USB Host support (working)

[GUIDE] USB Gaming on Nexus S

Greetings,
The purpose of this post/thread is to describe how to use a USB gaming controller on the Nexus S, which is now possible thanks to the work of fellow XDA member sztupy. Before proceeding, I highly recommend that you read his Galaxy S thread, especially the first few posts (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450298).
First, some demonstrations:
Using USB Host Controller app and Super Mario 64
Batman: Arkham City
Metro 2033
Dirt 3
DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility for any damage you do to your phone.
1.) FLASH KERNEL AND DOWNLOAD APP
First things first, you will need ICS and to flash a kernel that has USB OTG support in it. At the time of this posting, some kernels with USB OTG are:
-steve.garon’s kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427352)
-mathkid95’s Matr1x kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361477)
-Ezekeel's GLaDoS kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336529)
If you do not know how to flash a kernel, please Google it. You will also need to download sztupy’s app “USB Host Controller” (https://market.android.com/details?id=hu.sztupy.android.usbhostcontroller).
2.) ACQUIRE USB CONTROLLER
Next, you will need a supported USB controller. The following should work:
-wired Xbox 360 controller
-Logitech DualAction controller
-Logitech WingMan RumblePad
-wireless Xbox 360 controller WITH wireless receiver
-wired Sony Playstation 3 controller (not yet tested)
...probably many others
3.) OTG SET UP
Thirdly, you’ll need a working USB OTG set up. Sztupy’s thread shows you a few ways of accomplishing this. Below is a (crappy) diagram of MY current working set up.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15806590/diagram2.png
I think this is the best set up because you don't have to buy any fancy OTG cables or USB hubs. But that's just my opinion.
In terms of the order for connecting things, I find it works best if you connect the phone LAST.
4.) FINAL STEPS
Once everything is connected, open up the “USB Host Controller” app, select the “Settings” pane, and set the Operation Mode to “Auto-host” (if you are using a set up that involves an OTG connector/cable, then you'll likely need to select OTG mode instead). If everything went right, the app will close automatically and you should be able to navigate your phone with the controller. You are now ready to game!
Just a note with the 360 controller. The middle button will always flash on and off, and will not stay lit on one quarter of the circle as on an actual Xbox. AFAIK there's no way to fix this (unless you use tape heh).

Games/Apps TESTED & WORKING: (This list is not meant to be comprehensive, and will be occasionally updated)
Note: Pretty much any app/game that supports button remapping (such as emulators) should work
Emulators
-nes.emu
-SNES 9X EX
-N64oid (the right analog stick is not functional)
-Mame4droid
-FrodoC64USB
-Mupen64Plus AE
-FPse
Native/Regular Android Games
-Shadowgun
-Grand Theft Auto 3
-Samurai II: Vengeance
-Riptide GP
-Meganoid
-Reckless Getaway
-Cordy
-EVAC HD
-Radiant HD
-Muffin Knight
Some (not all) of the Xperia Play compatible games will work too. See here for a comprehensive list of Xperia Play titles: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217060
Other
-OnLive (!!! This means you can play the majority of onlive games that are game pad compatible)

thanks man i was thinking of a way to do this.

This is amazing !

I tested the Logitech Dual Action controller yesterday, it works also fine.

Hi! May I use your first diagram in my post too?

Sure! Be my guest.

Cool! 10 chars

3 new gameplay videos added.

nice. any idea if this works with the controllers for the original Xbox? I have a modded Duke I use on the computer, just replaced the Xbox!usb male with a regular usb male, and would love to be able to use it on my Cappy. I know it works perfectly on the mainline Linux kernel, but I'm having no luck finding how the drivers were implemented in ICS. I can't test myself just yet, still waiting for the otg cable and download mode jig to come in.

neoman4426 said:
nice. any idea if this works with the controllers for the original Xbox? I have a modded Duke I use on the computer, just replaced the Xbox!usb male with a regular usb male, and would love to be able to use it on my Cappy. I know it works perfectly on the mainline Linux kernel, but I'm having no luck finding how the drivers were implemented in ICS. I can't test myself just yet, still waiting for the otg cable and download mode jig to come in.
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I can't say for certain, but I think it should work. I found another thread here: http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-accessories/1014-what-game-controllers-work.html for the Acer Iconia tablet, and one user claims their original xbox controller works.
I suppose the only way to know for sure is to try it out yourself. Once you get your OTG set up and running, let us know how that works out for you.

Nice thread, very useful for me, I sold my wired 360 controller, and i thought i will buy a new one when i asked at sztupy's thread if the 360 controller would work with this method, he mentioned me about this thread, and i saw on the 1st page that a wireless controller would work with the receiver...luckily i have one of those but on the op says only it was not tested...so could anyone give me some info about that?

Szighy said:
Nice thread, very useful for me, I sold my wired 360 controller, and i thought i will buy a new one when i asked at sztupy's thread if the 360 controller would work with this method, he mentioned me about this thread, and i saw on the 1st page that a wireless controller would work with the receiver...luckily i have one of those but on the op says only it was not tested...so could anyone give me some info about that?
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Well the reason I suspect that it will work is because I saw this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrTmsZIb0a8&feature=related. Since we now have OTG it is reasonable to assume this would work for us as well.
I tried looking around for a wireless receiver to test but unfortunately all stores near my area only seem to sell it with the controller.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

developersdevelopers said:
Well the reason I suspect that it will work is because I saw this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrTmsZIb0a8&feature=related. Since we now have OTG it is reasonable to assume this would work for us as well.
I tried looking around for a wireless receiver to test but unfortunately all stores near my area only seem to sell it with the controller.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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hm...i'm gonna try it, so, i didn't understand the diagram show in the OP (from the dropbox link, i'm not too good in this), but would it work, if i use a USB Hub, connect the hub to the phone, a usb charger to the hub, and also the receiver?

Szighy said:
hm...i'm gonna try it, so, i didn't understand the diagram show in the OP (from the dropbox link, i'm not too good in this), but would it work, if i use a USB Hub, connect the hub to the phone, a usb charger to the hub, and also the receiver?
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Read sztupy's post here for some ways you can connect a hub: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21503413&postcount=2. As you can see, it is indeed possible to power the controller/receiver from the hub if you have things connected properly.
When you're setting up USB OTG/host for the first time, use a simple device like a USB flash/thumb drive to verify that your connections and everything else are working properly. Then you can try hooking up other peripherals like the 360 wireless receiver.
To be honest, I haven't had much luck getting USB OTG/host to work with a hub, which is why I went and created my own 'Y' cable. It really isn't that difficult to make, and it's cheaper than using a hub, provided that you have soldering equipment already.

developersdevelopers said:
To be honest, I haven't had much luck getting USB OTG/host to work with a hub, which is why I went and created my own 'Y' cable. It really isn't that difficult to make, and it's cheaper than using a hub, provided that you have soldering equipment already.
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you don't even need soldering equipment. I twisted and taped the wires and it worked fine.

Epic_VS said:
you don't even need soldering equipment. I twisted and taped the wires and it worked fine.
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Nice lol.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Word of caution, the 360 controller wireless adapter draws a lot of power, i recall there being high incidences of it dropping out when plugged into PCs, so be sure to power it adequately.

tiuk said:
Word of caution, the 360 controller wireless adapter draws a lot of power, i recall there being high incidences of it dropping out when plugged into PCs, so be sure to power it adequately.
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woah...i really don't know anything about this electronic thing how should i do?

Just look at your charger and check the output rating. It should say something like: 5.0 V, 0.75 A. Ideally you'll want the second number to be higher (like 1 A for example).
As a point of reference, my wired 360 controller works fine on 0.7 A. But as tiuk pointed out, the wireless receiver may be more demanding.
But really I think you should be okay if you stick with the standard Samsung Nexus S charger. If you need more current for your peripheral, you can simply disable the current draw of your phone with the USB Host Controller app. This way, all of the current from the charger will be directed to the device instead of being split between the device and your phone.

[PSA] Shield Controller DOES work with other Android's via USB OTG

Thought I would quickly put this out there, since I posed the question whether this could work in the "Shield Tablet revealed" thread while I awaited my controller and nobody seemed bothered to test it out. Background info is that Nvidia's site states that it can be used for wired play also, although the controller manual itself specifically states it won't work with other Androids or PC at the moment.
Plugged it in via USB OTG to my Note 3, and whattaya know, it works fine.
Tried Dead Trigger 2, perfect. Riptide 2, perfect. Jet Set Radio, perfect. Should note that even the capacity keys for volume/back/recent apps etc work. Tried PPSSPP and no problems there either, was even able to map the capacitive keys.
Next up: test with PC. May not have time tonight, so if someone else wants to take a punt and help the community out by all means try it and report back.
[UPDATE] Plugging into PC saw some generic USB input device drivers installed, which seemed very hopful, but couldn't get it to work with Dolphin. Will try again tomorrow with a couple of other programs.
Should add too that the controllers volume buttons have a nice distinct tactile click to them - I'm no having issues with them of the kind several reviews mentioned. I wonder whether Nvidia taking a moment to fix them following initial reviews resulted in the shortage of controllers for a time (as well as I think they underestimated how strong demand would be).

I'm really hoping there will be PC compatibility in the future. i have too many controllers. my laptop has an OK keyboard so I get away with not taking a full size keyboard with me on trips, but I always have at least a mouse, moga pro, and Xbox 360 controller. now that I have the shield controller I can leave the moga behind, but I'd like to dump the mouse and 360 controller as well.

Yes, adding PC use would make this a much more valuable gamepad. If you're listening Nvidia, make a small receiver dongle with micro USB OTG and full sized PC connectors so that we can keep it wireless in all use-case scenarios.
Worth noting I've only tried it on one program on PC, and even there only briefly, some others should take a look and see what they can do.