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I really couldn't find a place to put this so thought I would ask here. On a Nexus 6p currently, considering the Note 8 or the 5t. I think the biggest difference between the two outside of software is going to be the quality of screen, the 2k on the 5t plus the quad hd on the note 8. has anyone compared their oneplus 5 to say a galaxy s8+, and how crazy is the difference? i've seen the samsung's latest phones in person, but nothing from oneplus, so i honestly don't know how they compare. reading pocketnow or gsmarena they seem to give the 1+ a little flack for not having quad hd screens, but how much that really means to the naked eye i do not know. Thanks for any feedback.
I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
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Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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These two comments are spot on. In recent memory, I've had a note 4, Axon 7, Nexus 6P, S8+, and Pixel XL, Pixel 2XL, all at quad hd on amoled.. I haven't been able to tell any difference between those displays resolution and the displays found on my oneplus 3, oneplus 5, Moto Z Play, and a few other 1080P amoled displays.. The display is too small to notice a difference. Pixel density is still satisfyingly high.
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I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
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Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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These two comments are spot on. In recent memory, I've had a note 4, Axon 7, Nexus 6P, S8+, and Pixel XL, Pixel 2XL, all at quad hd on amoled.. I haven't been able to tell any difference between those displays resolution and the displays found on my oneplus 3, oneplus 5, Moto Z Play, and a few other 1080P amoled displays.. The display is too small to notice a difference. Pixel density is still satisfyingly high.
If you have plans to use vr go for higher display resolution. Or else fhd is perfect for battery life
thanks guys. no VR here anytime soon.
What do you think the probability of some of the "software" features demoed on the Pixel 3 will be ported to the Pixel 2 via Magisk, Xposed, Root etc?
Features im most intrested in is:
Playground - Finally i can meet Iron Man. Lol (It kinda sounded like google said these will be coming to Pixel and Pixel 2 later although i dont remember Pixel 1 having the AR chip soooo.
Call screen - I WANT THIS!!!!!!!!
The rest of the phone was pretty "Meh" I guess "NightSight" looked pretty cool.
Many new features will be available on all Pixel phones in a month or so according the the Made by Google event. I've watched it twice now. Maybe I'll make a list this evening when I watch again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsoQGTA1SxY
edit - I do remember Night Sight will come to all Pixels.
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Many new features will be available on all Pixel phones in a month or so according the the Made by Google event. I've watched it twice now. Maybe I'll make a list this evening when I watch again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsoQGTA1SxY
edit - I do remember Night Sight will come to all Pixels.
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Interesting because after i watched the made by google event i watched MKBHD's impressions video. Turns out he was invited to Google HQ a few months ago to film and try out all the products he said that Google said other then the Hush feature they would all be exclusive to the Pixel 3
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Interesting because after i watched the made by google event i watched MKBHD's impressions video. Turns out he was invited to Google HQ a few months ago to film and try out all the products he said that Google said other then the Hush feature they would all be exclusive to the Pixel 3
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I've had the "Hush" feature for at least 5 years on a Galaxy Nexus, S4 Active, Nexus 6, Pixel 2 XL with Tasker!
P3 features coming to other Pixel phones.
https://www.androidcentral.com/night-sight-coming-pixel-2-and-original-pixels
Yeah I want call screen!
Hopefully some clever dev gets it ported to pixel 2.
Both night sight and call feature is coming to pixel and pixel 2s. Not sure about the new playmojis but I'm sure once someone get their hands on the apks. We can install them on our pixels.
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Both night sight and call feature is coming to pixel and pixel 2s. Not sure about the new playmojis but I'm sure once someone get their hands on the apks. We can install them on our pixels.
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Yup. I just went through the event video again. Night Sight is at ~1:18 and Playground at 1:20.
Photo Booth, High Res, Motion Auto Focus, and new Portrait features are not clear in the video if yes or no. If it is a software feature, Google seems to deliver it to all Pixel phones. (fingers crossed)
https://blog.google/products/photos/keep-your-favorite-photos-date-live-albums/
At the bottom, it says - "These new editing features will be available on Pixel 3 and other phones that support portrait photos including Pixel 2 and Motorola phones such as the Moto G6."
So it confirms that the portrait editing shown WILL be on Pixel 2 devices too!
ALSO:
https://www.blog.google/products/go...fferently-playground-and-google-lens-pixel-3/
This states - " Google Lens is available on all Pixel devices, with Playground on Pixel 3 first and coming to Pixel 1 and 2 soon"
Therefore all older pixel devices will be getting Playground too!
Google lens is working with the new camera app 6.1 on pixel 2 xl. Also blur effect is now adjustable
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Google lens is working with the new camera app 6.1 on pixel 2 xl. Also blur effect is now adjustable
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Hell yeah!!
Any issues with the 6.1 camera apk on the pixel 2 xl? The APK targets a lower dpi than the phone's value.
I'll wait for the Pixel 3 ROM Port to Pixel 2 ?
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Google lens is working with the new camera app 6.1 on pixel 2 xl. Also blur effect is now adjustable
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How to do adjust the blur?
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How to do adjust the blur?
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After you take the photo, go to edit and in the second option look for depth. That's your blur setting
I use Nova launcher but they have the Pixel launcher and new clock and alarm here as well. I am using the clock from here.
Android Police: The Pixel Launcher from the Pixel 3 brings the Assistant button back [APK Download].
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...back-forces-adaptive-icons-apps-apk-download/
The ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm really curious as to the screen quality. I realise its gonna be different from an AMOLED panel that I'm used to, but all the other specs are so appealing!!
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I'm really curious as to the screen quality. I realise its gonna be different from an AMOLED panel that I'm used to, but all the other specs are so appealing!!
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Asus zenfone 6 , Honor 20 pro , Oneplus 7 pro camera test side by side .
OnePlus 7 vs 7 Pro / Zenfone 6 / Pixel 3a XL / Mi 9 Battery Life DRAIN Test.
Between these two videos you should get a decent idea of the display compared to other led displays .
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I think the zenphone looks a shade darker than the other led display due to its ips
I can confirm that there is a noticeable difference to a AMOLED display (coming from the Lenovo P2) and a side by side comparison clearly shows a better contrast in the Lenovo. But I also have to say that I only noticed that after a couple of hours with the Asus when checking back on the Lenovo. The display of the Asus is good and also in the dark not too bright.
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I can confirm that there is a noticeable difference to a AMOLED display (coming from the Lenovo P2) and a side by side comparison clearly shows a better contrast in the Lenovo. But I also have to say that I only noticed that after a couple of hours with the Asus when checking back on the Lenovo. The display of the Asus is good and also in the dark not too bright.
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Off topic but damn I loved that phone, really sad when I cracked the screen.
hi, i am using zenfone 6(2019) with latest update installed. the videos on the social media (twitter, fb, instagram) plays pixelated and in poor quality.
how can i fix this?
i think it's the same problem mentioned in android issuetracker: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/124593215
I'm having same problem. Did you find fix to that? I fear that we need to wait for update. Twitch video quality is poor too. @megamefta
Apparently the max brightness the phone can go is application dependent, in Chrome it's 600 nits and in photos or its 550 or something. Can we expect a mod or anything to make it even that is 600 across everything in the future?
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Apparently the max brightness the phone can go is application dependent, in Chrome it's 600 nits and in photos or its 550 or something. Can we expect a mod or anything to make it even that is 600 across everything in the future?
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Does anyone actually own this phone here?
How is the display in the real world . ALOT of folks on youtube are saying its pretty dark . I want to get it and understand its not oled but I dont want a dark display .
Yes sir, i own it. [emoji23] From left to right- P30 Pro, Zenfone 6, P20 Pro, i was outside under the tree, max brightness.
In general: for me the display is very good, just needs to be a bit more brighter.
PS: unfortunately this picture was shot by Galaxy A5 2015 [emoji16]
I'm coming from a OnePlus 3 and haven't compared to other recent phones, but I'm impressed with this display. It can get bright enough, at least for my usage, and even though blacks aren't as black as an AMOLED display, they're still black and not what you see on some cheap displays. Is a <Samsung-flagship> display better? Yeah, but the price is also higher than the ZF6.
The only setting I had to change was the colour mode. The two pre-defined options are "wide color gamut" (used by default) and "standard", which is more like sRGB. This is completely personal preference, for me "standard" looks more what I'd expect to see, not super vibrant colours that almost look fake. Anyway, it can be changed so it's not really a problem.
I didn't use the "always on" feature on my OP3 in order to save battery, but I can see users that liked that feature missing it on this phone.
Is the oled panel made by Samsung? K20 owners please type *#*#6484#*#* and show the display section screenshot. Also does it have hdr support and dc dimming?
Choosing display only tests the display by showing colors, no info on manufacturer. Any programs that will tell me if it supports HDR or DC dimming? I tried googling "HDR on mobile" and it only brought info like for example a youtube video named "Why HDR is useless on a mobile"
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Choosing display only tests the display by showing colors, no info on manufacturer. Any programs that will tell me if it supports HDR or DC dimming? I tried googling "HDR on mobile" and it only brought info like for example a youtube video named "Why HDR is useless on a mobile"
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Sorry, yes tapping the display section will take you to the color check, tap the Version Info(or something similar) which is usually at the top of the screen. Scroll down to get the ram and emmc and display version.
No useful information even when scrolled all the way down. Mainly serial/IMEI numbers.
I know earlier xiaomi phones had more info here, remember using it for my redmi note 3 pro to determine LCD panel.
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No useful information even when scrolled all the way down. Mainly serial/IMEI numbers.
I know earlier xiaomi phones had more info here, remember using it for my redmi note 3 pro to determine LCD panel.
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What's above the barcode
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What's above the barcode
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Only IMEI amd serial numbers for the phone.
I checked some of my other xiaomi phones; poco f1: only shows the same limited info as Mi 9T. Redmi note 5 PRO: Shows full info including display info (Tianma TD4310).
So it is clear that xiaomi doesn't want us to see this information anymore.
Kimovil.com says it's the same panel as the pro, but heard one youtuber saying it's not
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Only IMEI amd serial numbers for the phone.
I checked some of my other xiaomi phones; poco f1: only shows the same limited info as Mi 9T. Redmi note 5 PRO: Shows full info including display info (Tianma TD4310).
So it is clear that xiaomi doesn't want us to see this information anymore.
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How is the display quality? On par with the Samsung amoleds? Need quality over branding.
Where are you from and how much did you pay?
The display is great, I can't see any quality difference comparing this to my Samsung A70. The calibration is slightly different "out of the box" tho, Mi 9T has slightly cold/blueish tint whites while A70 has warm yellowish whites. The Mi 9T feels slightly oversaturated (colors are slightly too intense, but this also makes image look like they have better contrast). The A70 has a more "true to life" calibration. Both have impressive max brightness, outdoor use is no problem.
I ordered the phone the exact day it was put up for sale on aliexpress, from the seller fantacy which I've had good experience with earlier as well. And sure enough the phone arrived just over two weeks later here in Norway. Paid $374 for the 128Gb, I have seen it as low as $335 for the 128Gb or $295 for the 64Gb after coupons on aliexpress during the midsummer sale. Ordering early never gives you the best price
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The display is great, I can't see any quality difference comparing this to my Samsung A70. The calibration is slightly different "out of the box" tho, Mi 9T has slightly cold/blueish tint whites while A70 has warm yellowish whites. The Mi 9T feels slightly oversaturated (colors are slightly too intense, but this also makes image look like they have better contrast). The A70 has a more "true to life" calibration. Both have impressive max brightness, outdoor use is no problem.
I ordered the phone the exact day it was put up for sale on aliexpress, from the seller fantacy which I've had good experience with earlier as well. And sure enough the phone arrived just over two weeks later here in Norway. Paid $374 for the 128Gb, I have seen it as low as $335 for the 128Gb or $295 for the 64Gb after coupons on aliexpress during the midsummer sale. Ordering early never gives you the best price
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You got dc dimming update? And please give a small feedback about the overall build quality.. Does it feel cheap anyways? And also the in hand feel (8.8mm thicc:-\).. And any other noticeable thing about this phone you didn't like or something?
Ps. What about the standard display mode. Offers better true to life colors right?
As for DC dimming I have no idea. I know what it is, but not how to check if I have it. Not noticed any eyestrain during low brightness so far, but not sure if I am able to notice the difference. (Not all people notice the PWM flicker).
The inhand feel is good, but this is no light phone! The most perfect phone I've used lately is Mi 9 SE, 6" screen and 155 grams is perfect size.
It has the best in-screen fingerprint reader I've used. (A70 one is soooo crappy, slow and 50% failure rate).
Nothing to dislike so far, maybe except the price is slightly high compared to chinese Redmi k20 pro which can be had for $387 with 128Gb storage now with SD855, but K20 pro misses LTE band 20 which I need.
I also have my concerns about the popup camera, how will dust/dirt affect it over time? But this is a concern for any phone with popup camera.
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As for DC dimming I have no idea. I know what it is, but not how to check if I have it. Not noticed any eyestrain during low brightness so far, but not sure if I am able to notice the difference. (Not all people notice the PWM flicker).
The inhand feel is good, but this is no light phone! The most perfect phone I've used lately is Mi 9 SE, 6" screen and 155 grams is perfect size.
It has the best in-screen fingerprint reader I've used. (A70 one is soooo crappy, slow and 50% failure rate).
Nothing to dislike so far, maybe except the price is slightly high compared to chinese Redmi k20 pro which can be had for $387 with 128Gb storage now with SD855, but K20 pro misses LTE band 20 which I need.
I also have my concerns about the popup camera, how will dust/dirt affect it over time? But this is a concern for any phone with popup camera.
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Can you do a Androbench memory benchmark and share the results?
Sure.
Androbench results.
On par with other phones with sd7xx and UFS 2.1 storage.
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9t-review-1950.php
Says it is HDR10 capable samsung amoled display.
I've tried 4 or 5 apps, none of them tell you the screen manufacturer.
I have 2 9T and both have a yellow tinge. Display are not good here. Both devices therefore go back.
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I've tried 4 or 5 apps, none of them tell you the screen manufacturer.
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Try AIDA.. Gsmarena says that Aida reports the display to be a sammy one.
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I have 2 9T and both have a yellow tinge. Display are not good here. Both devices therefore go back.
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What about the display calibration. Mi gives you full freedom to calibrate the display tint color
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What about the display calibration. Mi gives you full freedom to calibrate the display tint color
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It has nothing to do with it.
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Try AIDA.. Gsmarena says that Aida reports the display to be a sammy one.
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Don't know why the say that, but AIDA doesn't.
Recently famous tech review channel "Unbox Therapy" posted a first impressions unboxing video of the Note 20 and Note 20 Ultra.
While comparing the 2 devices he happened to noticed when comparing the 2 models that the display of the ULTRA was way LESS vivid and LESS bright than the STANDARD Note 20.
He confirmed both were set to 100% brightness, both had adaptive brightness OFF, both were set to Vivid Screen Mode, and both had the white point in the center.
You can view the video and see the difference yourself in the video here....
Time stamp 8:50 if you just want to jump right when he realizes the display difference between them, and starts to troubleshoot this strange difference.
I was planning on potentially preordering the Note 20 Ultra so this really bothered me since I prefer a Vivid display. It shows on video he checked every setting except "Adaptive Color Filter" and "Enhanced Video."
My Testing and Results
So I knew I had to go to the store to see for myself and I went to Best Buy today and they had both the Note 20 & Note 20 Ultra on display.
Bad news... SAME exact results that Lew from Unbox Therapy had. See the pictures of all settings and testing I did below.
In all pictures the Note 20 Ultra is on the Left, the Standard Note 20 on the Right.
Brightness at Max for both displays, and Adaptive Brightness disabled for both devices, and Blue Light Filter disabled for both devices, and both devices set to Vivid mode.
Display Settings
Adaptive Color was also disabled on both devices.
Adaptive Color Filter
Notice the Standard Note 20 on the right has a brighter white point.
White Balance Comparison
This is a 4K UHD wallpaper I downloaded onto both devices. It's the exact same image from the same website. Notice that the Standard Note 20 on the right has more Vivid looking colors with better contrast.
Color Comparison
CONCLUSION:
After spending literally 30+ minutes standing there playing around with both phones, it seems the brightness is pretty close to the same on both. But the Standard Note 20 did seem to have a slight edge on 100% brightness. However the main big difference is the Standard Note 20 has more Vivid colors and Higher Contrast.
I do not think this is because the Note 20 Ultra display is not able to produce colors and contrast as Vivid as the Regular Note 20. I believe it just has to do with the display calibration in the hard coded software of the Ultra that is causing the colors to be more Natural than Vivid.
I came to the conclusion it was a software issue when I was watching the same YouTube video on both displays (Video Enhancer was disabled for both devices), and when playing the video the Ultra suddenly kicked into a more Vivid mode making it look nearly identical to the Regular Note.
Then when closing out of the video and to the YouTube home page it went back to a more Natural color and less contrast mode. Of course that was strange since video enhancer was disabled for both devices.
So this proves the display is capable of being Vivid with High Contrast, but just something in software that Samsung needs to calibrate in the Ultra model. Or maybe worse... potentially this was intentional by Samsung to help preserve battery since it is a 120hz display?
So Samsung needs to.... 1.) Crank up the Vividness of the Vivid mode to at least be Equal to the Standard Note and 2.) Fix video enhancement from turning on during YouTube videos when it's disabled in settings.
So I'm holding off to make a decision on whether to preorder or not since there is still about 12 days left. Meanwhile I hope that they push out a early release software update to fix the Vivid color profile on the Ultra. This is technically preproduction software so it COULD change with a software update, but there's of course no guarantee Samsung will fix this.
So if you prefer a Vivid display that Samsung is typically known for, then it is up to us as consumers to bring this to the attention of Samsung and popular Tech Reviewers, because Samsung doesn't know to fix this color calibration in software unless we make noise to let them know we want a Vivid display.
What is everyone's thoughts on this? Would this be a deal breaker for you on a $1,300 phone if the Vivid Colors and Contrast is noticeably less when compared to your Note 10+ or your S10/S10+ or S20/S20+? or do you prefer a more natural less vivid display?
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Hopefully also @dylanraga does a detailed display test on the Note 20 Ultra just like the awesome job he did with the OnePlus 8 Pro right here. That way we can see the actual technical results to further our evidence to bring to Samsung's attention.
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Further Confirmation of This Issue....
I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from a previous Galaxy will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and now Hayato from Android Central, and my personal testing have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't as Vivid as standard Note or Galaxys. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
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New Update!!! Some Note 20 Ultras might have dimmer and less vibrant display than other Note 20 Ultras.
This entire post was originally dedicated to the Note 20 Ultra having a less bright and less vivid display than the standard Note 20, and even the Note 10 Plus, Note 9, Note 8, S20/S20+/S20 Ultra, and OnePlus 8 Pro.
However this issue just took a more crazy turn for the worse. Now it has been discovered that some Note 20 Ultra phones have dimmer less vibrant displays than other Note 20 Ultra phones. Thats right... 2 of the same phones with [different looking displays. This was discovered thanks to Zack at JerryRigEverything YouTube channel when he was testing the 2 different processors.
Check out his video here
At time stamp 4:05 he says... "You might have also noticed the screen color is a bit different with both phones. I'm pretty sure I have the brightness turned up all the way on each. But it makes you wonder if there are other components that don't match up between the variants as well."
I have also attached a picture on page 6 of a post to show the difference. My Note 20 Ultra is a US Snapdragon variant and my display looks like the display on the left (Zach's exynos). I also noticed today that adaptive brightness is NOT fully turning off. I thought a few times over the past couple weeks I saw my display suddenly get brighter or dimmer. But I figured it was just my imagination because I always keep the adaptive brightness off.
However I am able to consistently reproduce it. If I put the brightness at 100% with adaptive brightness Off, then open chrome, the phone immediately dims 1 second after. Then brightens back at the home screen. Try it on your phone. Maybe the out of wack adaptive brightness is a separate issue, or maybe this could be the culprit to these dimmer less vivid displays. So I wanted to mention it too.
I also was able to reproduce it in a different scenario by putting my phone inches away from a bright light in my bathroom while on 100% manual brightness, notice it get brighter without me touching anything, then take it away from the light quickly, then see it dim right in front of my face. Looks like its dropping a solid 20% brightness but the slider doesn't change position. Still shows 100%!
Please test those 2 scenarios on your phone let everyone know if it happens to you too. Also if someone happens to have 2 Note 20 Ultras or know someone who does, then please compare the displays and post 2 pictures. One showing the 2 displays on the google.com homepage in chrome and 1 showing the display section in settings.
Anyone who had a noticeably dimmer display than 1 of your previous Samsung phones made in the past 2 years, then please contact Samsung support and report this. I will be contacting them for the first time about this issue and pushing them for a resolution. Even if that means exchanging for another Note 20 Ultra.
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Yep! I mention that in my original post. Read in the conclusion section.
Also the picture of me comparing colors is not a video. That is a downloaded a wallpaper. So even if it was turned on, that setting should not affect pictures to my knowledge.
cpufrost said:
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
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Yes! Exactly!! Everyone has different preferences. The option should be there for those who want. Plus what's the point of having a vivid display option when it's not that vivid? That kind of defeats the purpose of the setting existing.
Plus Samsung says on their website that the Ultra is the most Vivid display on any Galaxy. Clearly that's not the case when comparing it to the standard Note 20. Since their website claims it's supposed to be the most vivid, that indicates the Ultra display is not supposed to be this way and something might be messed up in the software that is preventing it from being as vivid as they claim it should be, so they just need to roll out an update to fix it.
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Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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It's definitely not more vivid than my S10+ but I didn't take any pictures of that. It seems to be about the same Vividness as my S10+ which is strange.
Not sure about the Note 10+ but probably same results since it wasn't more Vivid than my S10+. I highly recommend going to compare it to your Note 10+ in person.
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
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Good point! I actually did briefly put the Note 20 Ultra into 60hz then compared again. I got the same results. Still not as Vivid as the Standard Note 20. I just didn't mention it in my original post because results were the same as using 120hz from what I could tell.
Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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abax4401 said:
I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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Lol! Okay fair enough! Although what I worry about the most is they are doing this limit on Vividness to save battery. In which case means they would not fix it.
The only reason I don't think that it's on purpose is because they claim on their website the Ultra display is the most Vivid Galaxy ever.
I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from an S20 or S10 will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and my in store comparison testing, and Hayato from Android Crntral have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't very Vivid. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I love how optimistic you are! I hope you're right! Still gonna hold off on the preorder until reviews start to come out over the next few days. Then make my final decision.
Hopefully a reviewer with close connections to Samsung brings it to their attention, so then we can get confirmation they are aware of the issue and working to fix it. Then I will feel better about pre-ordering. I really hope it is fixed, because it seems like the perfect phone in every other way besides this.
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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Ah Okay I see. I'm not really sure either. I searched that on Google and the display on the S20 Ultra was also called that. I think it's Samsung's way of saying like version 2 of their Dynamic AMOLED. But not sure either. Couldn't really find any explanation.