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I brought an unlocked LG G6 to Verizon store today to get it activated and they were unable to do this. It appears I have 3 options:
1. Return device to bhphotovideo.com. Not sure what their return policy is.
2. Switch from Verizon to T-Mobile. Live in Silicon Valley close to San Jose, California. Their network is probably fine here.
3. Get an imei from an Android device with nano sim. The Verizon tech person said if I had a friend or family member with this they could get the unlocked G6 working on Verizon. Trouble is that I do not know anyone with an Android phone with nano sim. My old G4 used micro sim. The friends and family members have either iPhones or older Androids with micro sim.
So I could really use some advice here.
And in addition let this be a warning to anyone trying to get unlocked devices working on Verizon. I had read elsewhere that Verizon was now more friendly towards unlocked devices, but this was clearly not the case in my experience. Perhaps this is one reason Verizon is starting to lose customers for the first time in its history.
Cut your old micro sim to nano size put it in the G6 and fire it up. Then your new G6 will work and be in the Verizon data base.
Than sometime go in to Verizon and get a new nano sim. I have been down this road with unlocked phones and its not LG it is Verizon.
If you want to use the old G4 again you need a nano to micro adaptor.
I am using the US997 G6 from BH right now but my old phone used the nano sim so I just had to swap it out. Works perfect so long as you start with a Verizon sim that is already activated.
Earlier this week I activated a new SIM/device with my ancient Galaxy S3 IMEI and verizon sent me a 3-in-1 card that I punched down to the nano size cutout. Which allowed me to put my US997 on the network.
By the way, can you share if VoLTE, WiFi Calling or Video Calling work?
jiggyman said:
By the way, can you share if VoLTE, WiFi Calling or Video Calling work?
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I would like to know the same thing! Thanks
I got this phone all I did was take my sim out of my iphone put it in the g6 and boom it works. Verizon has no idea I have this phone. Lol
Update: got the LG G6 working on Verizon after all. We had to make sure the LG G4 is powered down in order for the activation to complete since the G6 was replacing the G4 on Verizon. And boy do I feel like an idiot for not knowing that. Surprising most of the Verizon staff did not suggest to do this.
I received mine and activated it yesterday. VoLTE works perfectly. No Video/WiFi Calling though. I love this phone! No bloatware!
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jiggyman said:
I received mine and activated it yesterday. VoLTE works perfectly. No Video/WiFi Calling though. I love this phone! No bloatware!
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Are there any other differences between the US997 model and the Verizon VS988, other than lacking wifi calling? (I don't know anyone who actually uses verizon video calling, iphone people use facetime, and as android user I'd always just use duo, hangouts or skype)
How do you tst if VoLTE is working?
I'm also curious about this process. I've done a lot of searching, but haven't been able to find a direct answer yet.
I'm considering buying a Sprint G6, then unlocking it to use it on Verizon. Is this even possible? Obviously, they're both CDMA. And appear to have the bands necessary for Verizon. But I've had trouble in the past with unlocking Sprint devices to work on Verizon.
Any insight is greatly appreciated.
madmax988 said:
Are there any other differences between the US997 model and the Verizon VS988, other than lacking wifi calling? (I don't know anyone who actually uses verizon video calling, iphone people use facetime, and as android user I'd always just use duo, hangouts or skype)
How do you tst if VoLTE is working?
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VoLTE worked out the box for me on Verizon. I just inserted my SIM and checked, and it was enabled. WiFi calling does not work on most unlocked phones, and the US997 unlocked edition is no different here. Video calling through the carrier does not work either.
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htcnext said:
I brought an unlocked LG G6 to Verizon store today to get it activated and they were unable to do this. It appears I have 3 options:
1. Return device to bhphotovideo.com. Not sure what their return policy is.
2. Switch from Verizon to T-Mobile. Live in Silicon Valley close to San Jose, California. Their network is probably fine here.
3. Get an imei from an Android device with nano sim. The Verizon tech person said if I had a friend or family member with this they could get the unlocked G6 working on Verizon. Trouble is that I do not know anyone with an Android phone with nano sim. My old G4 used micro sim. The friends and family members have either iPhones or older Androids with micro sim.
So I could really use some advice here.
And in addition let this be a warning to anyone trying to get unlocked devices working on Verizon. I had read elsewhere that Verizon was now more friendly towards unlocked devices, but this was clearly not the case in my experience. Perhaps this is one reason Verizon is starting to lose customers for the first time in its history.
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That's great news that you got most of the functionality working, OP. Do you happen to know if the phone was factory unlocked? Or was it tied to a carrier, then unlocked afterward? Again, thanks for any additional info!
ctyonthehil said:
I'm also curious about this process. I've done a lot of searching, but haven't been able to find a direct answer yet.
I'm considering buying a Sprint G6, then unlocking it to use it on Verizon. Is this even possible? Obviously, they're both CDMA. And appear to have the bands necessary for Verizon. But I've had trouble in the past with unlocking Sprint devices to work on Verizon.
Any insight is greatly appreciated.
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Unlikely to work. Stick with the unlocked version, model us997. Keep in mind Verizon sometimes blocks phones from their network that have the necessary hardware, like the ZTE Axon 7.
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Unlikely to work. Stick with the unlocked version, model us997. Keep in mind Verizon sometimes blocks phones from their network that have the necessary hardware, like the ZTE Axon 7.
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That's wrong. Im using Axon 7 on Verizon right now. No issues at all.
I really like the G6, not sure if i should get it. I have the Axon 7 as i stated above.
tolymatev said:
That's wrong. Im using Axon 7 on Verizon right now. No issues at all.
I really like the G6, not sure if i should get it. I have the Axon 7 as i stated above.
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If you want OOB compatibility, the device must be certified through Verizon's Open Development process. See below.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless.com/content/open-development/home.html
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If you want OOB compatibility, the device must be certified through Verizon's Open Development process. See below.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless.com/content/open-development/home.html
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OOB???
Axon 7 is just like Moto X Pure or this us997. They are unlocked with Verizon's bands. Stick an activated sim in them and they will work.
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OOB???
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Out of The Box, without any mods.
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https://community.zteusa.com/thread/14776
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https://community.zteusa.com/thread/14776
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This is old. And only one build. I went through that. They fixed it right away. I had the phone since launch. MM was great out of the box, 7.0 had a hiccup with service, GSM sim after the update fixed it on 1st boot, then you could put your CDMA sim back in.
If you buy the device now, the 7.1.1 build will work out of the box.
If you look through the zte forums people have had a lot of problems getting the Axon 7 to work with Verizon. Anyway, I am glad to hear you got it working all right. I like the Axon 7 a lot but was not willing to go through the extra effort that others reported to get it working. And some people could not get it working at all, not a risk I was willing to take. I blame Verizon, I do not think they are supportive of unlocked phones.
I ordered the 6t from T-Mobile website and will have the phone next week.
Would really like to see what we can get with the dual SIM difference. Is it just the SIM holder that's restricting the dual SIM or is the actual circuitry different.
If it's just the holder, then flashing the global room for the 6t should enable the dual SIM functionality.
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coolmaster121 said:
I ordered the 6t from T-Mobile website and will have the phone next week.
Would really like to see what we can get with the dual SIM difference. Is it just the SIM holder that's restricting the dual SIM or is the actual circuitry different.
If it's just the holder, then flashing the global room for the 6t should enable the dual SIM functionality.
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From what's been said by others (And confirming myself with the T-Mo model in hand), there is only one IMEI number assigned to the phone, and thus I doubt the dual sim functionality can be made to work at all.
coolmaster121 said:
I ordered the 6t from T-Mobile website and will have the phone next week.
Would really like to see what we can get with the dual SIM difference. Is it just the SIM holder that's restricting the dual SIM or is the actual circuitry different.
If it's just the holder, then flashing the global room for the 6t should enable the dual SIM functionality.
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Also... As some mentioned in the other thread... We can't flash the global ROM on the tmobile device.. There's some specifics to the modem that can't be changed.
Dual SIM might be an issue but custom rooms/ports based on then global version will not be an issue at all once bootloaders are unlocked after the first month.
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Can someone with the 6 see if the dual sim tray will fit the 6t and pop in two Sims that work on the T-mobile network? This worked with other phones with single imei so it might work here too...
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Also... As some mentioned in the other thread... We can't flash the global ROM on the tmobile device.. There's some specifics to the modem that can't be changed.
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True, but that doesn't mean that we can't flash a new radio once these devices start getting unlocked.
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Also... As some mentioned in the other thread... We can't flash the global ROM on the tmobile device.. There's some specifics to the modem that can't be changed.
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You should be able to flash the unlocked version of OOS once your device is unlocked from T-Mobile
We should be able to but the official line atm is that due to modem specific changes the global version cannot be flashed on to the tmo variant..also due to this the tmo variant won't be included in the Oxygen is beta releases..lastly ppl are saying that the tmo variant doesn't have a secondary imei for the 2nd SIM slot that is disabled/not present..in order to confirm any of this we need a tmo variant bootloader unlocked..we likely won't see any developments till the 2nd month of the phones release.
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We should be able to but the official line atm is that due to modem specific changes the global version cannot be flashed on to the tmo variant..also due to this the tmo variant won't be included in the Oxygen is beta releases..lastly ppl are saying that the tmo variant doesn't have a secondary imei for the 2nd SIM slot that is disabled/not present..in order to confirm any of this we need a tmo variant bootloader unlocked..we likely won't see any developments till the 2nd month of the phones release.
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I got my T-Mobile varient carrier unlocked already by asking them so I'll try using the global firmware and see if it works. Now that the phone is unlocked it should
TechOut said:
I got my T-Mobile varient carrier unlocked already by asking them so I'll try using the global firmware and see if it works. Now that the phone is unlocked it should
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Just picked one up this afternoon. The reps told me I couldn't get it unlocked until the$300 monthly trade in credits were dolled out... How did you convince them to unlock it?
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Just picked one up this afternoon. The reps told me I couldn't get it unlocked until the$300 monthly trade in credits were dolled out... How did you convince them to unlock it?
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No trade in I paid in full and showed the receipt to them on Twitter and they sent and unlock to it
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No trade in I paid in full and showed the receipt to them on Twitter and they sent and unlock to it
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Paid in full, as I'm even the $300 credit? Or are you still receiving that?
You're phone is SIM unlocked from T-Mobile..to unlock the bootloader u need to request a token unlock from one plus before u can experiment..which they say will be sent after requesting in 7 days..or did OnePlus already send u the bootloader unlock token. SIM unlock is simply one requirement in order to request the bootloader unlock.
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Just picked one up this afternoon. The reps told me I couldn't get it unlocked until the$300 monthly trade in credits were dolled out... How did you convince them to unlock it?
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TechOut said:
I got my T-Mobile varient carrier unlocked already by asking them so I'll try using the global firmware and see if it works. Now that the phone is unlocked it should
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fischwrap said:
Paid in full, as I'm even the $300 credit? Or are you still receiving that?
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No credit I paid the $579
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Also... As some mentioned in the other thread... We can't flash the global ROM on the tmobile device.. There's some specifics to the modem that can't be changed.
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If the phone isn't locked to T-Mobile I don't see why it can't be changed it would be treated as any other unlocked device
What about the the new 600Mhz crappy spectrum (Band 71) on Note 9 is a joke not FULL LTE only 4G and like -500db this is absurd so I need to know if the T-Mobile version is only software (modem) or the change something to the CPU or wait to someone extract the modem of the T-Mobile version and flash it to the Global Dual Sim and done.
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What about the the new 600Mhz crappy spectrum (Band 71) on Note 9 is a joke not FULL LTE only 4G and like -500db this is absurd so I need to know if the T-Mobile version is only software (modem) or the change something to the CPU or wait to someone extract the modem of the T-Mobile version and flash it to the Global Dual Sim and done.
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Without knowing location I can easily assume that:
1.) -500dB means you are stupid far from a tower that's using said band
2.) ...because you're so far from said tower you will not get optimal speeds
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Without knowing location I can easily assume that:
1.) -500dB means you are stupid far from a tower that's using said band
2.) ...because you're so far from said tower you will not get optimal speeds
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1 is a exaggeration joke because honestly I doubt T-Mobile say the total truth about Band 71
2.no not far but their network is not very reliable now what they did not know but for now in wait
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1 is a exaggeration joke because honestly I doubt T-Mobile say the total truth about Band 71
2.no not far but their network is not very reliable now what they did not know but for now in wait
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Use the app Cell Mapper & look on your desktop PC for the site with the same name.
It'll give you a look at where each band is deployed.
Band 71 is still sparsely in use, I'm guessing less than 10% of all T-Mobile towers have it
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KOLIOSIS said:
Use the app Cell Mapper & look on your desktop PC for the site with the same name.
It'll give you a look at where each band is deployed.
Band 71 is still sparsely in use, I'm guessing less than 10% of all T-Mobile towers have it
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I already use few ones to check it. right now I using OP 5T with T-Mobile and Att (dual sim) honestly with T-Mobile got few hiccups on the road here and there I do test with both but the Att Signal is strong all the way I ever go with T-Mobile I got HD Voice and voLTE (no need buy the phone from theirs the services are SIM Card provided) but Att have it if you bought a branded phone from theirs.
I will wait few months more I don’t think T-Mobile will stand near Att yet.
Hi there, I'm looking at buying an S10+ on eBay, and I see quite a few from AT&T (unlocked) that don't support Band 71. I'm on T-Mobile, and was wondering if I can install the T-Mobile firmware, since all of the G975U models supposedly support all the US firmwares, correct? If I do install the T-Mobile firmware on one of the AT&T unlocked models, will it activate Band 71? I live in a city and don't really need Band 71, but I do travel frequently and was just recently in an area of Band 71 coverage that my current phone LG G6 couldn't support, so I'm curious.
I'm using the following page for reference on which firmwares/phone models support which bands:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-model-number-sm-g975-differences/
Thanks!
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Hi there, I'm looking at buying an S10+ on eBay, and I see quite a few from AT&T (unlocked) that don't support Band 71. I'm on T-Mobile, and was wondering if I can install the T-Mobile firmware, since all of the G975U models supposedly support all the US firmwares, correct? If I do install the T-Mobile firmware on one of the AT&T unlocked models, will it activate Band 71? I live in a city and don't really need Band 71, but I do travel frequently and was just recently in an area of Band 71 coverage that my current phone LG G6 couldn't support, so I'm curious.
I'm using the following page for reference on which firmwares/phone models support which bands:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-model-number-sm-g975-differences/
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I'f you flash to t.mobile firmware then you should be good to go.
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Thanks, LimeyBastard. So just to confirm I understand this correctly, all of the Snapdragon/US based models have the exact same hardware, which supports Band 71, but only Tmobile and US Cellular activate Band 71 support in the firmware? Therefore, simply flashing the tmobile firmware onto any G975U unit will result in a phone that can use Band 71?
The ATT phones for sale seem considerably cheaper than the tmobile ones for some reason, so this seems like a good way to save money.
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Thanks, LimeyBastard. So just to confirm I understand this correctly, all of the Snapdragon/US based models have the exact same hardware, which supports Band 71, but only Tmobile and US Cellular activate Band 71 support in the firmware? Therefore, simply flashing the tmobile firmware onto any G975U unit will result in a phone that can use Band 71?
The ATT phones for sale seem considerably cheaper than the tmobile ones for some reason, so this seems like a good way to save money.
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Correct.
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Excellent, thank you! As it turns out, there's also a flamingo pink phone that is only sold by AT&T. I'd love to use that on T-Mobile. Of course, I can without Band 71, but now if I find myself stuck somewhere in the country, I might be able to have a pink phone to ward off the wolves! Haha. Now I just have to see if it's easy to unlock an AT&T carrier locked phone.
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Excellent, thank you! As it turns out, there's also a flamingo pink phone that is only sold by AT&T. I'd love to use that on T-Mobile. Of course, I can without Band 71, but now if I find myself stuck somewhere in the country, I might be able to have a pink phone to ward off the wolves! Haha. Now I just have to see if it's easy to unlock an AT&T carrier locked phone.
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You remind me of me, likes to go unique colors if possible [emoji106]
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gwbyrd said:
Excellent, thank you! As it turns out, there's also a flamingo pink phone that is only sold by AT&T. I'd love to use that on T-Mobile. Of course, I can without Band 71, but now if I find myself stuck somewhere in the country, I might be able to have a pink phone to ward off the wolves! Haha. Now I just have to see if it's easy to unlock an AT&T carrier locked phone.
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The U1 S10s have B71. Why do you want to bother with the ATT variant?
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The U1 S10s have B71. Why do you want to bother with the ATT variant?
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He or she said its because they can get hold of this variant at a better price.
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The U1 S10s have B71. Why do you want to bother with the ATT variant?
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Hi Ace42! I don't need the ATT variant, it just so happened the cheapest model I found on eBay was an ATT variant, so I thought I could save money that way. I'd be perfectly happy if I could find a U1 variant, or at this stage any of the unlocked carrier variants. It seems unlocking these phones isn't a guaranteed thing yet? There are some really cheap ones from Sprint.
On this subject, does anyone know if these 3rd party unlock services are reliable/safe? I hate to spend money to unlock my phone, but if it costs $25 and I can use my phone on another network, I suppose it's worth it. I believe I can request an unlock from the carrier in many cases, but if they turn me down, I don't want to spend money on a phone I can't use, as there isn't currently a DIY method to unlock the G975U, correct?
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On this subject, does anyone know if these 3rd party unlock services are reliable/safe? I hate to spend money to unlock my phone, but if it costs $25 and I can use my phone on another network, I suppose it's worth it. I believe I can request an unlock from the carrier in many cases, but if they turn me down, I don't want to spend money on a phone I can't use, as there isn't currently a DIY method to unlock the G975U, correct?
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I can only go by who I've used in the past. Cellunlocker net. Used them twice.
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He or she said its because they can get hold of this variant at a better price.
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Ah, makes sense! SIM unlocking ATT phones is the annoying bit so I generally keep my distance.
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Hi Ace42! I don't need the ATT variant, it just so happened the cheapest model I found on eBay was an ATT variant, so I thought I could save money that way. I'd be perfectly happy if I could find a U1 variant, or at this stage any of the unlocked carrier variants. It seems unlocking these phones isn't a guaranteed thing yet? There are some really cheap ones from Sprint.
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I've used ATT's device unlock multiple times in the past. The only issue is that requests are denied for no reason, which means resubmitting your request. You don't have to be an ATT subscriber (T-Mobile user).
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/
I know this is an old thread, but were you ever successful in enabling band 71 on the S10?
I am curious as to doing the same thing on an S10e - which also has a US and an international version. My main reason for wanting to do it is not cost, but the fact that the S10e comes with dual-SIM support, whereas for some insane reason, the US version does not. It seems to be that many of Samsung's US phones drop 2-SIM support.
So I ordered a oneplus 6t factory unlocked on ebay. What I got was a T-mobile locked device, that when I tried to unlock actually did.
My question though is are there annoyances with using the t-mobile version on another carrier (t-mobile apps or any radio differences) that would warrant me to return it or should I just give them a low rating.
thanks!
Uh. Not sure. I have an International Variant but I've heard that there is the usual T-MOBILE Bloatware. But you can easily convert it to Global Variant by following the Guide in the Guides Forum. Just search T-MOBILE to International Conversion OnePlus 6T
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So I ordered a oneplus 6t factory unlocked on ebay. What I got was a T-mobile locked device, that when I tried to unlock actually did.
My question though is are there annoyances with using the t-mobile version on another carrier (t-mobile apps or any radio differences) that would warrant me to return it or should I just give them a low rating.
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That's on the seller to provide as MUCH information he can provide before he lists. I'd say if it works out for you in the end, it's fine. But....I would message him and see if he does know the difference between T-Mo and Int'l.
I would take the T-mo and flash Int'l, honestly. T-Mo is slow to update, and there's an Int'l Beta release almost every month. I think the official T-mo is 4 or 5 months behind.
Let us know!
The TMobile version is not the international version in my opinion. On top of not getting regular updates like the unbranded version. They have been trying to do things in newer software versions to prevent people from flashing it to international versions by adding extra checks, not that it has worked so far. The international version is also dual SIM and has two IMEI, the TMobile version only has one. I guess it depends what you paid for it, but I would not accept a TMobile version personally.
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The TMobile version is not the international version in my opinion. On top of not getting regular updates like the unbranded version. They have been trying to do things in newer software versions to prevent people from flashing it to international versions by adding extra checks, not that it has worked so far. The international version is also dual SIM and has two IMEI, the TMobile version only has one. I guess it depends what you paid for it, but I would not accept a TMobile version personally.
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I agree completely.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter considering you can very simply convert a T-Mobile version into an International version.
The T-Mobile version by default is a few updates behind and doesn't support dual sim iirc. Like I said though, you can easily convert it and buy a sim card tray that supports dual sim if that's your thing.
Does anyone know if it's possible to get the dual SIM working on the T-Mobile version? Im fully unlocked I just don't want to go through that whole process
I only need the second SIM for data only on Visible if it matters (it's a long story as to why lol)
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No, it's the only way. Converting to the international version is easier than you think, and it's really worth it, believe me.
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I can agree. Soon as I could I converted mine to international back in November/December 2018. Best decision ever for this phone
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Bought a used Tmobile 6T at a phone shop in Vegas, converted it the next day, unlocked, rooted, debloated, and put google on a leash. Worth doing!