The thing are importent to me is:
1.faster and powerfull phone (for games,emails,whatsapp,internet,apps).
2.Amazing camera.
3.Good battery.
4.A phone that will not "stock" in the future (i can change roms and more).
5.A good screen.
You need to get booth of them
meizu 4 5.36 inch, camera 2.0MP 20.7MP ,1920x1152,3100mAh
oneplus 5.5 inch camera 5.0 MP 13.0MP 1920x1080 ,3100mAh
I prefer to the meizu 4
oneplus
Have had mine almost a month and its a really nice phone.. Have owned Samsung's.. Nexus devices... And the one plus is tops.
lenteenes said:
meizu 4 5.36 inch, camera 2.0MP 20.7MP ,1920x1152,3100mAh
oneplus 5.5 inch camera 5.0 MP 13.0MP 1920x1080 ,3100mAh
I prefer to the meizu 4
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The battery of meizu mx 4 is not good. So I still prefer OPO.
i had the oneplus one and now i have the mx4
opo has a lot of problems ( search google ) touch screen wont work properly ,sometimes i had those ghost touches and a lot of touch issues ,microphone stopped working suddenly ...
the big problem is the support of this company ,in one word ,a big joke , just bought the mx4 with 2 years warrant in my local country, not as fast as the opo but perfect touch screen and a lot of nice features , im very pleased with it more then the opo
Hello maybe i can give some feedback, i actually used an Oneplus One for over 3 months and then switched to meizu, i didnt experience any issues with my oneplus one unit, now yellow band nothing stupid ~
i switched to the mx4 for the following reasons, for my hands the oneplus one wasnt as comfortable to hold due to how the phone is build up, the rouned design of the meizu is way better for me to hold in one hand and do something on the go ~
camera hands down i always thought the oneplus one takes descent shots untill i got my mx4..really compared to the mx4 pictures the oens of the oneplus just look washed out noisy and lack detail (they are still good but just way worse if you compare it to the mx4)
i also prefer the mx4 deisgn..performance wise they are equal..i dont see any difference even tho i score 51k in antutu while i had "only" 46k with my oneplus one, same antutu version
the only downside for me is the battery life, i get easily through the day with my mx4 but i would say i had around 20% more battery with the oneplus one
but as long i get through the day i'm fine, i would never switch my mx4 for a oneplus one.
Yeah I have an MX4 and the camera is probably the best I have ever experienced on a mobile phone and I'm just not saying that. Amazing detail in the pictures, good colors and many options to get the shot you want. Only thing I miss is image stabilization.
I consider buying the MX4. The only thing that bothers me is the software. Will there be the official CyanogenMod support? Or can we expect an upgrade of their OS to Lollipop?
What also bothers me is that there is no subforum here on XDA. Why is that? Is there really no custom software for this phone?
Lucenzo7 said:
I consider buying the MX4. The only thing that bothers me is the software. Will there be the official CyanogenMod support? Or can we expect an upgrade of their OS to Lollipop?
What also bothers me is that there is no subforum here on XDA. Why is that? Is there really no custom software for this phone?
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I don't know about Cyanogen but Lollipop is confirmed for the MX4 but I don't know when it will be released. Basically there is no development for the phone. But I like the stock software personally. One of the reasons I bought the phone.
Sent from my MX4
We find each time more models on the market, since the manufacturers have as goal to cover every single segment on the market, no matter what your budget is...there is a smartphone for you.
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During these past summer months, two of the big Chinese manufacturers have introduced an update for two of their most popular models. We are talking about the Meizu m2 Note (end of June) and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 (August).
The truth is that the only point they probably share is a FullHD 5,5” screen and low-medium segment they are both addressed.
Lets see the specifications:
Prices: Meizu m2 Note -> From $139 with Flash sales
Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 -> From $169.99 with current promos
As you can see, with this update Xiaomi has make much more emphasis on the “power” than his competitor. In addition, the version I’m trying is the Prime (2,2Ghz and 32GB of RAM) so the difference seems even more evident.
Appearance
Looking at the design, first thing to mention is that m2 Note is made on a single piece, meaning mainly a more “solid” terminal, or at least feels more resistant on the hand. It is slightly shorter and narrower than the Redmi Note 2, although thicker. The Redmi Note 2 on its side, has rear cover and removable battery.
Anyway, both are quite similar on size and weight, but they are figures difficult to notice on a daily basis.
Looking at them from the front, both show at first the imposing 5,5” screen, even though they use different technologies for it (I’ll talk about it later). Above the screen, Meizu’s one shows the speaker and the secondary camera. Xiaomi model adds also a LED for notifications (Meizu model also has a LED but it’s not as useful or evident, and not as customizable as the Xiaomi LED). Both cameras have 5Mpx.
Below the screen, Meizu only has a physical central button, with 3 different functions depending if we touch, press or hold it. The Xiaomi has the 3 typical Android haptic buttons, although they work in a different way because they can be customized (that’s pretty cool) so we can decide what they’ll do when we press or hold each button.
For the rest, on the Meizu we have the buttons for volume and lock on the left side and the slot for SIM and microSD on the right side. The secondary microphone (for noise cancelation) is on the top side, together with the Jack 3.5 plug, so the micro USB plug and the main speaker are on the bottom side.
The Xiaomi is quite similar, but having all the buttons on the right side, not having anything on the left side and adding the infrared port on the top...the rest all the same.
When flipping it, the main camera (13Mpx) and the flash, which is dual LED on the Meizu and single LED on the Xiaomi. The camera is completely flat for the Meizu and protrudes slightly on the Xiaomi. This last also includes the main speaker on this rear side. Both have the logo on the bottom.
The perception of the finishing is high quality for the two models, and with both I had the impression of sliding from my hand at the beginning. However, once you get used to their shape, size and weight... they fit very comfortable on the hand.
Screen
The 5,5” screens on these models deliver FullHD resolution and excel 400ppi of density with a incredibly good quality of image. The only one difference is then, that Meizu chose IZGO technology and Xiaomi opted for the commonly used IPS LCD panel.
After using both daily, my impression is that Meizu screen offers better quality and dims more, which is very nice for reading during the night for example. Said that, both screens have a very good quality and have the option to adjust the color temperature.
There are some complaints about IZGO screens showing yellowish when it should be white, but I haven't noticed that effect at all.
Use and multimedia
Both models come with Android Lollipop 5, nonetheless each one has a very different and complete customization layer.MIUI is much more known than FlymeOS, although the people from Meizu is doing a great job with continuous improvements on the ROM. The goal surely is to make it each time more popular and compatible with more models, something that has worked very well in the favour of MIUI in the past years.
An important part of this customizations is the way we use the buttons and interact by using gestures.
Since I'm now comparing those two smartphones, I'm not going deeper on the ROMs (MIUI and FlymeOS) used, since it would make an endless review.
What I must say is that both will require a (small) adaptation time even for those coming from Android. In my case it was easier and faster with FlymeOS than with MIUI. Maybe also because MIUI has even more personalization options.
Something that I dislike from both is the number of things (apps, screens, messages) in Chinese, it's not excessive, but they simply appear sometimes and you don't have any other option. It's easier to avoid them in Meizu, since in Xiaomi their AppStore cannot be entirely disabled, and will continue suggesting you updates, which in some cases will just change the language of your apps... to Chinese.
Something good from MIUI (Xiaomi) on this point is that the account creation can be made in English (or other languages) and then it's later integrated with many other apps like their cloud app (called MiCloud... does it remember you something?) coming with 5GB for free and working pretty well for pictures, contacts, messages and some more things which look very similar to Apple iCloud.
As an extra in this section, Xiaomi Redmi Note 2, features an infrared port, and Xiaomi's MiHome app detects it automatically and helps quite good to control different devices at home (TVs, air conditioned, satellites,…). It could seem some silly thing, but it works pretty well.
This Redmi Note 2 also includes radio (digital and FM options), which is something I missed a lot on the Meizu, it works well, with good sound quality.
Regarding the proprietary apps, each one has some strengths and weaknesses. FOr example Meixu's weather app doesn't work for cities outside China, while you can select any city with Xiaomi one. The music app for both allow to browse their extensive catalogue ready to download, but for Xiaomi it's quite complicated to find international (non asiatic) artists. On its side, Meizu's app works very well, it's completely translated and have lots of international artists.
We will find a voice assistant in both smartphones, and both very similar to Apple's Siri, but in Chinese, so in any case it's really useful or something to highlight. The day any of them translates it to make it available internationally (English at least) it will be a good point I guess.
Camera
Here the competition becomes even more interesting (if possible). The pictures I've taken with both smartphones show very good quality, they focus very fast and you can do burst shoot, which is something I cannot say about most of smartphones (not talking about first brands).
So this part is surprisingly satisfying for both competitors.
With the Redmi Note 2, I was surprised by the face detection on the selfies, which in addition is capable of identifying sex and age very accurately :-O
With the main camera, the results are very good even with low light where the flash works very precisely.
Talking about the Meizu m2 Note... I sincerely have the impression that it can compete hand to hand with my iPhone 5 and recording video (1080 @ 30fps) can probably beat him.
Some samples taken with each one, always first the Meizu then the Xiaomi (If you want to see real size pics, I could just upload them to my spanish blog -> http://dabarsocialmarketing.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/meizu-m2-note-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-2.html):
Some samples of video
Meizu -> https://youtu.be/Epl1fUwMrjQ
Xiaomi -> https://youtu.be/ZePaimXFL3U
Battery
Not much to say in here. The manufacturers have bet for a size that covers perfectly the expectations, meaning around 3000mAh and 1 day of standard use.
We can find tools for managing the energy in both cases allowing us to choose between power, balance or power saving modes. We can even select if the power saving mode should be automatically enabled when reaching a percentage.
We can say that the Meizu m2 Note, having a less powerful processor and managing better the screen bright, wins by little this battle.
Conclusions
If I had to choose which one to keep, it would really be a hard decission.
A priori, the Redmi Note 2 is more powerful comes with some very interesting and useful extras (radio, infrared,…), however the user experience is more satisfying with the m2 Note and I like more the camera.
A table with pros and cons of each one would be like that:
As you can see, I find some more advantages on the Meizu, despite having less power. Specially strong in the camera, which is one of today's main uses for our smartphones.
In the present case, in addition, I'm using the Xiaomi's Prime version meaning an internal storage of 32GB and 2,2Ghz CPU's speed.
Personally, the FM radio is a very strong point, since I missed it a lot on the Meizu and one of the downside of iPhones for example, since you need data to listen to radio.
FlymeOS use is a little bit more agreeable, although you also get used to MIUI in some days.
For the power and the extras, I choose the Xiaomi as winner on today's competition.
Nevetheless, if you're not planning to play a lot of games, and so you don't require as much power, and you count on using one SIM and a microSD card, I recommend you the Meizu.
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If you want to see real size pics, I could just upload them to my spanish blog -> http://dabarsocialmarketing.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/meizu-m2-note-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-2.html
Agreed my wife has the redmi note and I had the m2 note, I personally preferred the meizu,battery life doubled my wife's redmi issue,she's currently struggling to get over two hours sot, I'm pretty sure this is a os problem
sutty86 said:
Agreed my wife has the redmi note and I had the m2 note, I personally preferred the meizu,battery life doubled my wife's redmi issue,she's currently struggling to get over two hours sot, I'm pretty sure this is a os problem
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Whoa, what? I'll hit 5 hours of SoT with 28 hour up-time now. Currently on 14%. And that's with 2 SIM cards active.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
what miui are you running? thanks
sunbriel said:
Whoa, what? I'll hit 5 hours of SoT with 28 hour up-time now. Currently on 14%. And that's with 2 SIM cards active.
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Which miui version installed? I run the latest (.24) and my SoT is max 3h00'-3h15" with 45% screen brightness and 3G data connection
sutty86 said:
what miui are you running? thanks
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geco4u said:
Which miui version installed? I run the latest (.24) and my SoT is max 3h00'-3h15" with 45% screen brightness and 3G data connection
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Xiaomi.eu dev 5.9.24. With brightness set to 25-45%, WiFi on and connected during the day and from 2AM-7AM WiFi off with 2G/3G on.
Great post!
So, the perfect phone would be the combination of these two
Maby I'll wait for a month or two.
I do want to correct the OP. M2 Note does have a LED for notifications. I didn't read the rest, but looking on the table, your pros and cons are somewhat subjective and depend on which version of OS you're running. For example, the Chinese bloat on RN2 can be easily dealt with and as far as I know, when Xiaomi releases RN2 globally, the ROM will be clean.
Other corrections: Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 supports 1080 video recording from front facing camera. It also supports touch-to-focus during video recording (back camera) but you must enable it from settings
So tables are not correct
sunbriel said:
I do want to correct the OP. M2 Note does have a LED for notifications. I didn't read the rest, but looking on the table, your pros and cons are somewhat subjective and depend on which version of OS you're running. For example, the Chinese bloat on RN2 can be easily dealt with and as far as I know, when Xiaomi releases RN2 globally, the ROM will be clean.
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Yeah, Meizu has the LED, but only in white color. So You cant set different colors for few apps.
And Xiaomi with MIUI has a lot of updates and fixes. Meizu not .. Thats why i will buy Xiaomi.
xiaomi redmi note 2 and meizu m2 note are really the best rivals, but i like xiaomi redmi note 2 more, because it has better performance and price. there is one problem about xiaomi redmi note 2, we really don't know the shipping time. many Chinese sellers just presells it, so can anyone give me the idea about when the international version of Xiaomi redmi note 2 released?
galakty said:
Yeah, Meizu has the LED, but only in white color. So You cant set different colors for few apps.
And Xiaomi with MIUI has a lot of updates and fixes. Meizu not .. Thats why i will buy Xiaomi.
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Are you sure? I can check it this weekend when I'll have access to an M2N. But somehow I can't recall the LED flashes white only.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
sunbriel said:
Are you sure? I can check it this weekend when I'll have access to an M2N. But somehow I can't recall the LED flashes white only.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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I watched two reviews and they said that. But if You can check it, will be great
FumiJ said:
xiaomi redmi note 2 and meizu m2 note are really the best rivals, but i like xiaomi redmi note 2 more, because it has better performance and price. there is one problem about xiaomi redmi note 2, we really don't know the shipping time. many Chinese sellers just presells it, so can anyone give me the idea about when the international version of Xiaomi redmi note 2 released?
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There won't be an international version of xiaomi's devices.
Buy from a reseller with a spedition from Europe/USA
SkiFire13 said:
There won't be an international version of xiaomi's devices.
Buy from a reseller with a spedition from Europe/USA
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ok, too sad for me!
Meizu has a notification LED, better battery, better design, proper software and camera. Xiaomi has a better chipset but a lame battery life so if you're buying it get yourself a power bank just in case[emoji23]
Redmi Note2 has a notification LED as well, the battery is replaceable and battery times are rather good on 5.9.18 - .24 had some problems with that.
I think I also like Redmi's post processing more than the Meizu, as seen here (look at the clouds for example, they're hideous). Redmi also has the bonus of being able to use dualSIM + µSD, while in Meizu's Note 2 µSD uses SIM2.
Also, I can't seem to find any TWRP/custom ROMs for m2 note, while there are some for Redmi, plus an official dev ROM with root. That's clearly an advantage for me.
Hi all, I've been some weeks out and couldn't check here. Some comments.
1- it's true that Meizu m2 Note had Led for notifications, but it's much less customisable and evident than the one in the Xiaomi. It's more discrete.
2- I was really tired of Chinese intrusion on the Xiaomi (really horrible, it started to install apps without asking me through the Chinese AppStore), so I tried to manually disable that store... Not a good idea, since it went soft bricked :[email protected] some hours later I found a new, European ROM. I lost some of the interesting aspects like the music downloads, but HUGE IMPROVEMENT in terms of battery life, much more hours of use with screen on, watching movies for example. This version is Xiaomi.EU 5.9.24 (still beta) based on Android 5.0.2
100% recommendable. The MiHome app works slightly worse.
3- I've tried but I cannot record 1080p video with the front camera, maybe because of the ROM.
4- I could change the video focus to "Tap" so I guess not I can focus when and where I want.
5- With the video in HD (720p) it's possible to use Slow-Motion and Time-Lapse. However, when selecting FullHD quality, only Time-Lapse is available.
Summary, after changing to this new ROM, this device (Redmi Note 2) has earned a few more points. So very happy and good feelings
Not everything is great, it's still a beta so I guess this is one of the bugs pending: sometimes when I take it and press unlock button... The phone doesn't responds, the screen remains black :-/ only option is to remove the battery and boot it again. This happens randomly.
mdabar said:
Hi all, I've been some weeks out and couldn't check here. Some comments.
1- it's true that Meizu m2 Note had Led for notifications, but it's much less customisable and evident than the one in the Xiaomi. It's more discrete.
2- I was really tired of Chinese intrusion on the Xiaomi (really horrible, it started to install apps without asking me through the Chinese AppStore), so I tried to manually disable that store... Not a good idea, since it went soft bricked :[email protected] some hours later I found a new, European ROM. I lost some of the interesting aspects like the music downloads, but HUGE IMPROVEMENT in terms of battery life, much more hours of use with screen on, watching movies for example. This version is Xiaomi.EU 5.9.24 (still beta) based on Android 5.0.2
100% recommendable. The MiHome app works slightly worse.
3- I've tried but I cannot record 1080p video with the front camera, maybe because of the ROM.
4- I could change the video focus to "Tap" so I guess not I can focus when and where I want.
5- With the video in HD (720p) it's possible to use Slow-Motion and Time-Lapse. However, when selecting FullHD quality, only Time-Lapse is available.
Summary, after changing to this new ROM, this device (Redmi Note 2) has earned a few more points. So very happy and good feelings
Not everything is great, it's still a beta so I guess this is one of the bugs pending: sometimes when I take it and press unlock button... The phone doesn't responds, the screen remains black :-/ only option is to remove the battery and boot it again. This happens randomly.
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For use 1080p in front camera you must open camera, select video mode, select front camera, open settings and set 1080p.
The ROM you have choosed has many bugs. Please, download other ROM from xiaomi.eu like 5.10.8 and i suggest to do a wipe data. If you don't want to wipe data try if wipe dalvik and cache may be enough.
Download from here miuif.celogeek.com/5.10.8/
(Hermes)
jack_21 said:
For use 1080p in front camera you must open camera, select video mode, select front camera, open settings and set 1080p.
The ROM you have choosed has many bugs. Please, download other ROM from xiaomi.eu like 5.10.8 and i suggest to do a wipe data. If you don't want to wipe data try if wipe dalvik and cache may be enough.
Download from here miuif.celogeek.com/5.10.8/
(Hermes)
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Thanks for the advice, the true is I'm very happy with the general working (specially the battery) although the random blockades and those options you mention... (now I have no way to go to settings when I select the front camera).
I'll try that ROM as soon as I can and share my comments
Have a nice one!
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Huawei P30 Pro's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
In fact, Huawei has done a great job in bringing up few additional features and optimizing the camera on P30 pro. Wide angle dual window, 50X zoom are just couple of additions.
https://youtu.be/hma0DC1aMsA
I had a Google pixel 2xl before switching to the p30 pro. Before that I had either nexus phones or Samsung Galaxy phones. I have a strong preference for stock android Vs manufacturers muddling with android. After messing about with the p30 for s couple of hours I have a fairly close to stock experience So it is possible to get a google stock feel Vs EMUI. I moved away from pixel as allot of the promised features such as call screening have still to make it to the UK. Plus the notch on the pixel 3 XL is far to big. Could not bring my self to purchase it.. yuck. Tear drop is just about bearable especially when using dark theame which I think was switched on in the power settings.
So you can get an android stock feel from the Huawei and this is from someone who used to be a dedicated nexus / pixel boy. I wish manufacturers would concentrate on getting the hardware correct Vs messing with the software.
The camera app itself looks a little dated from the vs the pixel. I prefer Google's camera app. However as soon as you use the zoom function wow. The UI is not important. The feature is a game changer for a phone. Massive step forward and it is so easy to use.
How near to stock?
andyzarins said:
I had a Google pixel 2xl before switching to the p30 pro. Before that I had either nexus phones or Samsung Galaxy phones. I have a strong preference for stock android Vs manufacturers muddling with android. After messing about with the p30 for s couple of hours I have a fairly close to stock experience So it is possible to get a google stock feel Vs EMUI. I moved away from pixel as allot of the promised features such as call screening have still to make it to the UK. Plus the notch on the pixel 3 XL is far to big. Could not bring my self to purchase it.. yuck. Tear drop is just about bearable especially when using dark theame which I think was switched on in the power settings.
So you can get an android stock feel from the Huawei and this is from someone who used to be a dedicated nexus / pixel boy. I wish manufacturers would concentrate on getting the hardware correct Vs messing with the software.
The camera app itself looks a little dated from the vs the pixel. I prefer Google's camera app. However as soon as you use the zoom function wow. The UI is not important. The feature is a game changer for a phone. Massive step forward and it is so easy to use.
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Hi just curious as to what you used to get the P30 Pro as near to stock as you could?
I am using Nova Launcher on a Oneplus 3T with Google Contacts and Dialer installed (non root) and it's great, but due an upgrade.Do you miss the double press power button to open the camera?
And is it possible to use normal OSD navigation buttons?
beardybuck said:
Hi just curious as to what you used to get the P30 Pro as near to stock as you could?
I am using Nova Launcher on a Oneplus 3T with Google Contacts and Dialer installed (non root) and it's great, but due an upgrade.Do you miss the double press power button to open the camera?
And is it possible to use normal OSD navigation buttons?
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You can double tap the volume down button and it opens the camera (default is take a picture).
Coming from Note 8 running OneUI I can certainly say that Samsung with one UI is much more refined and easy to use as compared to EMIUI 9.1.0. One hand usage of the phone isn't so great as most of the options are still located at the top of the screen, unlike one UI. and sadly even the camera UI isnt as refined as the one UI, of course the quality of p30 pro camera is beyond a match. Also there is a weird bug no matter how many times I disable an app like gmail or drive or any other google service if there is any update the app will pop up on my home screen once again.
If the screen is off i can use fingerprint sensor properly. . If i go into the lockscreen its working only with the pin method and no fingerprint are accepted. Is there an option to disable this or its a bug?
resolution of the camera
Hello everyone
I bought a Huawei P30 pro 3 days ago and I wonder why with a 40MP camera we can not take pictures in 16: 9 when holding the phone horizontally
We only have 40MP in 4:3
the full screen format is only available with 6MP
today all screens are 16: 9, if we look at our pictures on the TV we would like to display them in full screen and not with black stripes on each side
I don't understand
cordially
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
It's not only the best phone I've ever used, I think it's clearly far & away the best in class for a phone today and I genuinely want it to raise bars for what's possible with the hardware. As a package, it's remarkable. Best in class overall & in many areas.
I just love it. Nothing is a disappointment. Getting on the xiaomi.eu ROM negated the ill effects of importing a deGoogled phone. It's reliable, charges in ludicrously quick time, is a fantastic camera, seems unofficially pretty splashproof. Feels good, looks good, sounds good, works with everything
Yes, it gets five snowflakes
A few weeks in I have an update!
I'm in the UK. I switched to EE as they confirmed what I figured out: band 20 is not their only 4g band for rural areas. All the old 3g bands are now 4g bands.
So I get 4g everywhere. I live in semi rural Cheshire. If you didn't tell me this had no band 20 I wouldn't know.
And the phone is running Xiaomi.eu rom. As no root yet I also run Blockada. The combination of both means no web ads and no app adverts either.
I feel like I've solved 75% of the software problems. Between this and the flawless hardware I think it's a flawless phone. As long as you're not a lazy user who never reads threads or works things out.
No notification light? TrueEdge works a dream for edge lighting customisable by app or even contact
Headphones quiet? Not with the EU ROM, no stupid warning either
Google maps? Working. I can see where I was yesterday
Everything else is just gravy. I can manage over a day between charges but it's a struggle. This can only go up with root, Greenify works without root to an extent but I do miss lspeed.
I would like to say. You're still importing a phone built for China. I cannot recommend this if you're too lazy to read the EU thread and put on that ROM which makes it westernised and with Google. You'll end up with a phone stuck in Chinese you leave to waste.
In that sense it's not a full recommendation. However if you're on XDA you should at least be open to the idea of modifying your phone for the best performance.
But it's my daily phone now. I use it for work and play. For music , video, streaming to Chromecast, amazing photos (seriously. Plus you can set it to RAW)..
If you buy it and never want to modify it you're either a fool or live in China.
If you buy it and want to unlock it welcome to XDA! You are reading a review of the best phone I've ever used (and I've been modifying phones since jailbreaking my iPhone 3g)
I miss my stereo speakers on the mi 10 pro and that's it!
If this phone had the same speakers this would be untouchable!
Build quality is amazing. I got the silver 16gb ram with 512 memory and I can't be more happy. Some websites like gsm arena state the silver model is actually ceramic not glass. Can't confirm
Antipecterial screen protector and case in the box are a wonderful touch by xiaomi
Screen is fantastic. Haptic feedback is too notch. Great hardware from all aspects
Speakers are good. Samsung level I believe but no where near the amazing ones on the mi 10 pro!
Battery is good. this beast just changed how I use my phones. Now I don't leave it overnight to charge it worry if I run out of juice. Between the 120w charger at home. 100w car charger and 55w wireless on my desk it is never below 80% at any given time on a busy day
Camera is good. Wide-angle videos looks like a GoPro. This is the first xiaomi I don't install gcam on.
I had a Mi 11 Ultra in 2021 but it broke after 2 months and requested a refund.
Last month I bought Mi 10 Ultra used for 320€. Very good deal, but.. taking consideration of being a used phone let me says these thoughts..
Cons first:
The fingerprint sensor doesn't work Calibration missing, suspected that it had a screen replaced, bought the 4 in 1 Calibration tool RL-071B(Yellow striped instead, wonder if thats the issue) and i cant manage to calibrate it on CTI menu, tried dozens of times, white paper black paper, diferent positions of the finger, diferent fingers, disabled dark mode, bright room, dark room, replaced twrp persist.img from stock and custom roms, tried diferent roms, official, xiaomi.eu. only havent rooted the device yet.
It's 3 step calibation, "Put flesh flat", "Put black flat" and "Put flesh chart horizontaly", and most of the error is "1505 bad point cluster".
I saw tones of videos of people succeding it but I grow tired of this and almost lost hope, most local repair shops in my city don't even know these workarounds.
So i'm only using pattern and facial unlock sadly. If anyone want to help me find another solution for the fingerprint, PM me.
The camera while using either Xiaomi.eu or oficial china stock miui 13.0.4.0/13.0.5.0, Miui 12/A10 12.0.9.0 have camera focus issues. Just tonight on 13.0.5.0 xiaomi.eu recorded a video at night and it keeps loosing focus and take too long to recover with objects more then at 3 meter distance.
Sometimes even close objects and specially in low light.
The battery charges from 5% to 100% in 40min with 120w charger (i have a 120w chinese charger and a 120w european charger both bought by the previous user) in 13.0.4.0/13.0.5.0. Read somewhere that from 12.0.6.0 to 12.0.9.0 Xiaomi started to cut down on charging speed. making the 120w useless. This is mostly a 67w charger time like the Mi 11 Ultra. Maybe to avoid damaging the battery since its a Li-polimer and not a Si-O2 like the Mi 11/12 Ultra.
I have the Xiaomi 80W wireless charger adapter when i bought the mi 11 ultra but i don't like cause it makes abit of noise while chargind by blowing fans to it to keeping the device cool down. Charging times are around 1hour 30min more or less.
Display autobrightness during low light is too low but this is a simpthom of most Xiaomi devices. (fixed by flashing a fix but might lead to bootloop on certain roms)
Sadly, only way to use stock navigation gestures with third party launchers like my Nova launcher was to use a Android 10 rom, now i have to resort to keep navigation buttons and use 3rd party navigation gestures like "My Gestures" if i want to use Nova launcher. This is fixed in Samsung devices including my Galaxy Note 10+ Android12. Damn you Xiaomi..
I don't use Android 10 cause Bluetooth might glitch as it happen to me where i couldnt turn it on on miui 12, if you dont update Bluetooth and the update only happens in miui 13 to my knowledge. Fixed it by flashing miui 13/A12 again.
Longest wait i ever had on unlocking bootloader, 360 hours, my Mi 11 Ultra was around 168 hours back then.
Pros now:
Excelent detail of cameras ofc. Specialy during day shots the automatic swtich to ultrawide for macros is great (Missing that option on Mi 11 ultra back then)
The ultrawide lens is so wide that need to have special care not to put my fingers in front of them. xD
And the Zoom lens has OIS and its good. But there were alof of misconceptions that it was a 10x zoom but it ain't its 120mm so its closer to 5x, the good thing it's a 48mp zoom so it can binn zoom shots for extra detail.
The curve display is not that curved, like some curved smartphones, which is a good thing to avoid acidental touches and the Miui setting also helps on that.
The display brightness outdoor during sunlight is also good.
I had a Galaxy Note 10+ and i liked the Vivid colors option and for the mi 10 ultra to have the same kind of colors they need to be in "saturated option, Warm temperature".
My used battery is showing excelent quality in settings and it's lasting a good ammount. I have everything turn on (120hz, Dual Wifi(see bellow), Bluetooth on with Honor magic watch 2 connected and Health app with no battery optimization, location on, dark mode on, NFC on, Always on display with mountain superwallpaper on, exception is mobile data off).
With accubattery is showing bettween 7hour20min use and now recently with xiaomi.eu 13.0.5.0 it's showing 8hours30min but it's probably still updating to my use since i flashed it)
The sound is loud (not as loud as Mi 11 Ultra is i recall) and has a good balance between stereo speakers.
The Equalizer options with Bluetooth earbuds and probably work with usb-c are amazing. Lets you Amp those your earbuds to levels i rarely see in other phones, and lets you choose Xiaomi earbuds presets even if they are not Xiaomi earbuds like my Soundcore Life A2 NC. It's an amazing feature to be honest. The virtual surround option there is mostly a gimmick and adds abit of eco.
Wifi range is trully wonderful, i had several phones, Sony, Samsung and a Vivo Nex S xD and none compare to the MI 10/11 Ultras, My opinion is probably based by the restrictions of Specific Absorption Rate(SAR) that in Europe and the US has, that limits wifi and network quality and on China these must be diferent. This is the radiation that the phones produce. If i ever get cancer you can say i told you so... just kiding really.
My Galaxy note 10+ was always leaving me in a bad spot when it comes to that where i couldn't show my friends a proper youtube video cause it was always loading.
Despite not metting my country requirments for 5g and 4g networks, missing 4g B20 and 5G N78 i still have good signal quality and 5g connects alot of times in my city. Never done a speed test cause my traffic is very limited but no problem watching a 1080p youtube video, and i had issues with my 4g Galaxy Note 10+.
Haptic feedback motor is also very good, not as good as Mi 11 Ultra, but it only works for MIUI UI and not youtube videos or games for example to my knowledge.
There are hidden options that can be recalled using the App called Miui Hidden settings from NetVor.
These hidden settings include Dual Wifi that was only Mi 11 Ultra and connect to a 2.4g and 5G wifi at same time to have better speeds and stable connection, or have 2 diferent wifi at home and stay connected to them all the time. At my home i have 1gb speeds and im getting 550-720mb wifi speeds but with dual wifi 2.4gz+5ghz i get 850mb.
They let you enable better HDR videos if that works (not sure) and also enable the never enabled tecnology called MEMC for smoother videos (also not sure it works properly).
That's it.
Despite some mishaps it's a wonderful device, if one day i grow tired of it and want to buy another phone it's going to be hard to sell if fingerprint is not working properly.
*Spoiler alert, grumpy post ahead*
Had many cameraphones in the past,but the choice that Oppo made running along with the IXM766, the sensor is disappointing in every aspect, like, come on! 1.56" sensor with 1.0 microns?! Seriously?!
Camera quality is noisy day or night.
Photos are over exposed.
hdr mode is a joke, the Pixel 6 and 6A murdering this phone blindfolded.
Portrait mode is like storm trooper trying to hit a tank 2 meters away and still miss the target.
Using video mode killing both battery and heats up the device badly, even without tapping the Record button the phone heats up..
Macro mode not kick's in automatically.
Using the Pro mode showing same results
Thought that upgrading to Android 13 will do any better but nothing was changed in the camera department...shame..
I have the Oppo Find X5 btw..
Came to see in the forum if other people are having such a worse camera experience with this phone as me.
This phone is the perfect textbook example of "doesn't matter how many/or high quality camera sensors you put in a phone, if the software is crap, the whole experience is crap".
Instead of making such a marketing about this "Marisilicone x" thing and other technical crap advertisement, Oppo could have spend this time more useful in the camera software development.
I'm surprised to say that my 7T Pro takes a lot better photo's than this phone.
My opinion of course...
Had Xiaomi Mi 11 before the Oppo and the Pixel, it actually demolishes the Oppo in every aspect.
With GCAM? it's perfect!
The Oppo does not have a proper GCAM either...
Try Shamim Oppo package.
Shamim: SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42
Download SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42 by Shamim.
www.celsoazevedo.com
null0seven said:
Try Shamim Oppo package.
Shamim: SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42
Download SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42 by Shamim.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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best XML for X5 Pro with this Gcam? Thanks
algugo said:
best XML for X5 Pro with this Gcam? Thanks
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Which xml you're using?
I really enjoy speed and fast charging, but just had p30 pro come back from repair and night photography destroyed x5 pro..., tried so many different setting, options, nothing help to come even close, I really hope future updates will fix this issue, now I am thinking what to do as p30 pro got brand new battery, motherboard and latest november patch.., should I keep it and sell x5 pro or other way...
that bad, I hoped it would be good
HDR is really a joke, for the price paid it seems like a bad joke... so far no update