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It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
try snap camera from the store it have a option to enable..used the app if I was on aosp rom with the m8
Good to see
I forget where, but this was actually confirmed a looooooong time ago (well... long in tech time. Couple of weeks ago though).
I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
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It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
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Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
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I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
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It does, but due to driver limitations, the longest shutter you can choose in Manual Camera app is 1/10. The longest shutter the S6 and edge is allowed to use (when ISO is manually set in the stock camera app) is 1/7. And when Manual Camera opens, WB is all green, so you need to long press WB to make it normal. There is now RAW support wither.
Right now the best camera SW for the S6 and edge is the stock, which is extremely fast to open, very quick to focus and snap, and offers a wide variety of options including manual settings, without shutter control. The latter is a pity, but without long exposures, you can just indirectly control it via ISO, either way, you are maxed out at 1/7. On the bright side... the lens is very bright, offering dramatically better lit details at the same SP and ISO than the S5, Note 4 or One M9, and it makes it a solid snapper indoors. Overall camera2 API is a mixed bag at it's current state and I hope full manual control comes soon with long shutter options.
Not sure this is because of camera 2 API or not, but you guys notice you can now separate auto focus from exposure point in pro mode? You can press and hold to lock the focus point, while shifting the exposure point to elsewhere on the screen. Makes it much better while shooting in situations where background and foreground are in vastly different exposure brackets.
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
"Manual camera" app doesn't work with S6
vincent2167 said:
Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
... link ...
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
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I Installed "Manual camera" app (compatibility app said that it would work) but it doesn't work.
"Manual camera" interface appears, turns green and freezes, and phone either reboots or app
just shuts down. Camera gets a little warm too.
Was hoping to get DNG files from S6, but doesn't look good.
Very disappointed about this.
Uninstalled app and was refunded.
Thanks for the feedback!
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
Jason_V said:
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
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I don't think there's RAW support for any non-Nexus phone (maybe one of the Chinese ones, but not from the major OEMs).
Also, doesn't the shutter top out at 1/10 or 1/7?
Yeah when putting it into raw and gpeg you will get a crash we have to wait for Samsung to do an update . I have a feeling that the ois is the reason samsung cannot alow shutter speed variation as even dslr cameras don't use image stabilization when it's on long exposure and as ois cannot be switched of manually then this will be a problem .
Hello guys) How to enable Camera2 API?) Custom ROMs (MIUI, CM, etc)
1) Root!
2) Open build.prop, make string 'persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1' , save, reboot.
3) Check manual features by Manual Camera Compability utility.
4) Install FV-5, Manual Camera etc and enjoy by manual exposure,focus etc)
It's working on my xiaomi.eu latest MIUI7 and Mookee ROMs)
p.s. I have Snapdragon version, pls test on the MTK who have this devices.
Thanx to Nevio (4pda.ru) )))
BUG! Stock camera in MIUI7 crashed with this feature. MIUI8 is normal.
Tested with Krexus rom and working!
It's gooood)
it's for mediatek or snapdragon version ?
SD working. Try if you have MTK version. If this hint will work - I will change head of topic to both versions)
nevelaev said:
SD working. Try if you have MTK version. If this hint will work - I will change head of topic to both versions)
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Can you please test what is the longest shutter speed in Camera fv-5 or in AZ Camera. Thanks in advance!
I tried this feature on the Manual camera and AZ camera - 0.6s maximum shutter speed. And picture have a lag.
BUG found
BUG found - stock MIUI7 camera will not work with this ftr. Mi8 is normal)
News - bug only for MIUI7. MIUI8 - nice work with stock camera)
tested with official RR, working camera fv-5, now will try freedcam and manual camera
edit: tested other 2 apps, all working, very happy, to take all the juice from the camera
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I tried this feature on the Manual camera and AZ camera - 0.6s maximum shutter speed. And picture have a lag.
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Ok, thank you!
I enabled camera 2 api and I am experiencing a crazy battery drain with mokee ROM. Is it normal? The battery drops 10 % in a matter of 10min and the phone gets really hot
How many of the manual settings stated in the manual camera compatibility app are supported after enabling camera2 api?
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How many of the manual settings stated in the manual camera compatibility app are supported after enabling camera2 api?
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But RAW pictures are buggy on our phone, atleast on my phone
Edit: I had 3 reboots within a short time while opening camera apps since I've edited the build.prop. I'm on official RR, but the camera2 features are working fine (except raw), thanks for sharing!
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But RAW pictures are buggy on our phone, atleast on my phone
Edit: I had 3 reboots within a short time while opening camera apps since I've edited the build.prop. I'm on official RR, but the camera2 features are working fine (except raw), thanks for sharing!
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How to know its working? And which camera app to use after editing the build prop?
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How to know its working? And which camera app to use after editing the build prop?
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Camera fv-5, snap cam (from play store), open camera and a lot others, they have to support camera2 api. On some camera apps you have to enable it manually in the settings. Then you can control shutter speed and some other things. I've attached also a picture, on the left side the shutter speed is short and on the right side the shutter speed is a lot longer. So for "normal" pictures you won't need manual controls, but in some cases it can be useful.
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Camera fv-5, snap cam (from play store), open camera and a lot others, they have to support camera2 api. On some camera apps you have to enable it manually in the settings. Then you can control shutter speed and some other things. I've attached also a picture, on the left side the shutter speed is short and on the right side the shutter speed is a lot longer. So for "normal" pictures you won't need manual controls, but in some cases it can be useful.
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Can u plz show the ss of build prop after the edit? And the settings in any camera app?
Thanks for the guide.....this has solve the problem of reboot while using third party camera apps......google camera is also working without any problem
At least. MANY DIGITAL COOKIES TO THE OP. This was a thing that I was asking before even buying the phone. Many thanks to the OP.
Hmm I am using Snap Camera with camera2 API. Best thing) But it's need to activate camera2 in the Snap Camera settings (menu--"other"tab--go down and check Camera2 API string). Nice manual focus and manual settings in the HDR mode) Snap camera may a RAW format. There opens in built-in viewer and (who installed) can be pen into Snapseed editor.
Example of the photo in HDR mode with manual settings) Sorry for my curved hands and academical English)))
My curved hands cannot make good man ual photos yet)) Who knows Russian - you can check 4pda.ru forum--Redmi Note 3 Pro Camera branch. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=750102&st=860 Many people tested this hint and VEEEEERY pleasured)))
Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful
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Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful
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Can't you just install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera on stock ROM? I think the camera2 api should be available.
Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.
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Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.
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So the app doesn't work? I can't test it cause I am not on stock.
Just tried open cam on stock rom and I can capture RAW dng files, so it seems like camera2 is supported try it out!
UPDATE: Enable "Use alternative flash method" in photo settings if it won't take pictures when camera2 is enabled.
Open camera is pretty buggy on this phone when shooting RAW. Try "Footej camera", seems to work better
yaa but for footej need to pay to have fully featured. I payed for this but for m there is no diference to open camera.
I didn't say that Footej is better than open camera. Just that open camera often bugs for me when using camera2 - eg nothing happens when pressing camera button.
Sry for reviving the thread, is there any way to increase max shutter speed in camera2 api? I'm really interested in shooting some raw stuff but apps like Opencamera or Adobe Lightroom won't allow me to set over 1 second shutter speed (apart from the built-in camera app that allows up to 8 secs, but without raw support...) so it's a pain in the butt if I want to take raw pictures at night.
Using the stock Marshmallow Emui
The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.
zgomot said:
The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.
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Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great
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Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great
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Have you tried Camera FV5?
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Have you tried Camera FV5?
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Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|
Krastinov said:
Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|
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Is it the trial version?
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Is it the trial version?
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Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case
Krastinov said:
Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case
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I Know This Is Quite Old But In Case Someone Is Still Wondering;
I'm Using Stock Nougat Firmware On My P9 Lite And It Does Support Raw Format, But You Have To Root The Phone And Enable Raw/DNG Format In Some System Files
Hello everyone,
is there anything known yet, if Moto G5 Plus camera has RAW shooting capability?
If not implemented in native camera app, does the phone support Googles' camera2 API, which would allow 3rd party apps to use full manual mode and shoot in RAW?
If information is not documented publically, could anyone already owning G5 Plus verify this, by installing a manual mode enabled camera app, e.g. "Manual Camera" and check if RAW mode can be turned on?
Thank you in advance!
siddie said:
Hello everyone,
is there anything known yet, if Moto G5 Plus camera has RAW shooting capability?
If not implemented in native camera app, does the phone support Googles' camera2 API, which would allow 3rd party apps to use full manual mode and shoot in RAW?
If information is not documented publically, could anyone already owning G5 Plus verify this, by installing a manual mode enabled camera app, e.g. "Manual Camera" and check if RAW mode can be turned on?
Thank you in advance!
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No!
None of the camera2 API has been implemented, tested on 4GB Indian variant
Thanks for the quick check.
I had asked for RAW, as i read and heard in several reviews now, that G5 Plus camera does have some issues with overexposure and softness caused by too aggressive noise reduction maybe. This is somewhat disappointing as it seems that software processing of the pictures does not get the optimum out of sensor and lense.
An option would have been to shoot RAW and process out of the phone to get better results.
Professional mode would at least help to fix the exposure issues, but is there a way to get into the noise reduction settings?
May this advanced camera settings mentioned here be of help to that?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/how-to-unlock-advanced-camera-settings-t2884035
siddie said:
Thanks for the quick check.
I had asked for RAW, as i read and heard in several reviews now, that G5 Plus camera does have some issues with overexposure and softness caused by too aggressive noise reduction maybe. This is somewhat disappointing as it seems that software processing of the pictures does not get the optimum out of sensor and lense.
An option would have been to shoot RAW and process out of the phone to get better results.
Professional mode would at least help to fix the exposure issues, but is there a way to get into the noise reduction settings?
May this advanced camera settings mentioned here be of help to that?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/how-to-unlock-advanced-camera-settings-t2884035
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maybe when custom roms hits?
siddie said:
Thanks for the quick check.
I had asked for RAW, as i read and heard in several reviews now, that G5 Plus camera does have some issues with overexposure and softness caused by too aggressive noise reduction maybe. This is somewhat disappointing as it seems that software processing of the pictures does not get the optimum out of sensor and lense.
An option would have been to shoot RAW and process out of the phone to get better results.
Professional mode would at least help to fix the exposure issues, but is there a way to get into the noise reduction settings?
May this advanced camera settings mentioned here be of help to that?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/how-to-unlock-advanced-camera-settings-t2884035
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Came here to post the same question. The camera tends to over expose the picture a lot or the softness kills it. Anyway to enable the camera 2 api?
siddie said:
Hello everyone,
is there anything known yet, if Moto G5 Plus camera has RAW shooting capability?
If not implemented in native camera app, does the phone support Googles' camera2 API, which would allow 3rd party apps to use full manual mode and shoot in RAW?
If information is not documented publically, could anyone already owning G5 Plus verify this, by installing a manual mode enabled camera app, e.g. "Manual Camera" and check if RAW mode can be turned on?
Thank you in advance!
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try
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-enable-camera2-shoot-raw-root-t3582392
Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
Leriche-Fontaine said:
Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
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Good question, i had issues with this too (coming form Nokia Lumia with manual controls) , now this android camera seems lame.
So this is almost the best i could come up with overall quality of pictures and features : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
Apart from that Pro shot is a good app too but i cant find a way to go above 12 MP in that app which is a dud for the powerful 16 MP we have as a rear cam.
Thank you surya, do you happen to know what's the shutter speed range with those apps?
Leriche-Fontaine said:
Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
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Hi!
If we're talking about 3rd party camera apps, they are dependent on how well the manufacturer of the phone has implemented the Camera2 API into Android that was introduced with Lollipop. If the Camera2 API has not been implemented properly the developers can't really do a lot in terms of manual controls (shutter speed etc) because the system doesn't give them access to it. You can test the level of Camera2 support on your phone with the app "Camera2 probe". The hardware support levels are "Legacy" (worst), "Limited", "Full" and "Level 3" (best). Would be interesting to know the results if you test it. Depending on the level of implementation, you can run certain apps or not or have certain manual controls available or not. If you use "Open Camera", you have to activate Camera2 features in the settings, it's not switched on by default.
Hope this helps a bit.
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fgnm.baconcamera&hl=en
NOt based on camera2 api though..
Using camera2 probe -
Model : TA-1003
Build Version : 7.1.1
SDK version : 25
Hardware level category : Level 3
Exposure : All exposures are ticked.
Focus - Auto Focus EDOF is not ticked but all else is.
Whitebalance - All whitebalance options have been ticked
RAW capture is available.
So the TA-1003 is able to access the camera features properly, all except the Auto Focus EDOF.
There may be a discrepancy with the TA-1000 so someone with that model can try...
Cheers guys...
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Using camera2 probe -
Model : TA-1003
Build Version : 7.1.1
SDK version : 25
Hardware level category : Level 3
Exposure : All exposures are ticked.
Focus - Auto Focus EDOF is not ticked but all else is.
Whitebalance - All whitebalance options have been ticked
RAW capture is available.
So the TA-1003 is able to access the camera features properly, all except the Auto Focus EDOF.
There may be a discrepancy with the TA-1000 so someone with that model can try...
Cheers guys...
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Good to see it has the best implementation level (Level 3).
So can you shoot in raw? If yes, this would be one of the cheapest phones with raw!
This app shows what is supported: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
Could anyone post the result?
Any news?
Raw is supported and tweaked google camera hdr+ works. Quality is amazing.