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Hi everyone ,
I got my Nexus 4 yesterday and I love it! Before I got the phone I did a bunch of research on loading custom ROM's and kernels, and even pre downloaded everything so when it arrived I could start tinkering right away. At the moment it seems Paranoid Android is an ideal ROM for me, as it strikes a nice balance between simplicity and customization. However, it seems that the Matr1x kernel doesn't run well on it due to the JSS/JWR incompatibility issue that came about with Android 4.3. I'd like to run the Matr1x kernel because it has a great balance between performance and battery life, and does some fancy GPU over clocking/CPU undervolting for you that I am too afraid to do on my own.
I found a zip file on the xda forums that remedies the incompatibility issue and allows Matr1x v11 and PA 3.99.1 to run together without issue. So my questions are these:
1. Is there any risk in using this JWR/JSS zip patch? Finding it was a pain in the butt and not many people have commented on its quality or where it comes from. Is it safe?
2. PA's gapps package has a bunch of G+ stuff included that I don't care about. Is there a way to remove it like in some of the slim gapps packages?
3. Has anyone else encountered a static hiss/ticking coming from their earpiece? It can only be heard faintly when the device is up to my ear but it's a little frustrating all the same. Is there a fix for this? Does the device's warranty cover it?
4. Finally, I have one thing I am confused about regarding rooting etc: I have CWMod installed on my phone and I have unlocked my bootloader. By unlocking my bootloader, have I also rooted my phone?
Thanks so much for your time!
Downloaded7 said:
Hi everyone ,
I got my Nexus 4 yesterday and I love it! Before I got the phone I did a bunch of research on loading custom ROM's and kernels, and even pre downloaded everything so when it arrived I could start tinkering right away. At the moment it seems Paranoid Android is an ideal ROM for me, as it strikes a nice balance between simplicity and customization. However, it seems that the Matr1x kernel doesn't run well on it due to the JSS/JWR incompatibility issue that came about with Android 4.3. I'd like to run the Matr1x kernel because it has a great balance between performance and battery life, and does some fancy GPU over clocking/CPU undervolting for you that I am too afraid to do on my own.
I found a zip file on the xda forums that remedies the incompatibility issue and allows Matr1x v11 and PA 3.99.1 to run together without issue. So my questions are these:
1. Is there any risk in using this JWR/JSS zip patch? Finding it was a pain in the butt and not many people have commented on its quality or where it comes from. Is it safe?
2. PA's gapps package has a bunch of G+ stuff included that I don't care about. Is there a way to remove it like in some of the slim gapps packages?
3. Has anyone else encountered a static hiss/ticking coming from their earpiece? It can only be heard faintly when the device is up to my ear but it's a little frustrating all the same. Is there a fix for this? Does the device's warranty cover it?
4. Finally, I have one thing I am confused about regarding rooting etc: I have CWMod installed on my phone and I have unlocked my bootloader. By unlocking my bootloader, have I also rooted my phone?
Thanks so much for your time!
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1. Should be safe, as long as you have a nandroid backup in case something goes wrong.
2. You just delete the apks from the gapps zip. (system/app)
3. Haven't heard of it. Hope someone else has a solution.
4. Well, no. The term "Rooted" only applies to ROMs, when you have a superuser app and binary installed (Supersu, superuser etc.). But, you are just one step from rooting (Flashing the supersu zip).
All custom ROMs are already rooted, so you don't worry about that.
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1. Should be safe, as long as you have a nandroid backup in case something goes wrong.
2. You just delete the apks from the gapps zip. (system/app)
3. Haven't heard of it. Hope someone else has a solution.
4. Well, no. The term "Rooted" only applies to ROMs, when you have a superuser app and binary installed (Supersu, superuser etc.). But, you are just one step from rooting (Flashing the supersu zip).
All custom ROMs are already rooted, so you don't worry about that.
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Gotcha, thanks very much for the help. So there's no threat of some 12 year old stealing my credit card if I use that JWR/JSS patch zip?
Downloaded7 said:
Gotcha, thanks very much for the help. So there's no threat of some 12 year old stealing my credit card if I use that JWR/JSS patch zip?
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Most probably not. Certainly not a 12 year old
Give me a link to the zip. I want to check it out a bit.
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Most probably not. Certainly not a 12 year old
Give me a link to the zip. I want to check it out a bit.
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This is the only thread I could find with a direct link to the .zip, which has me a bit skeptical since downloading it from a Google Drive account seems kind of sketchy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45690500
That said, it does work. It got PA and Matr1x running together very smoothly, but I reverted to my backup of stock PA before entering any private info because I wanted to see what others had to say about it first.
Thanks again!
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This is the only thread I could find with a direct link to the .zip, which has me a bit skeptical since downloading it from a Google Drive account seems kind of sketchy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45690500
That said, it does work. It got PA and Matr1x running together very smoothly, but I reverted to my backup of stock PA before entering any private info because I wanted to see what others had to say about it first.
Thanks again!
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I think it may not work. It has Adreno 200 and MSM8960 libs in it, a GPU and CPU that have nothing to do with the N4's APQ8064 and Adreno 320. You can still try, because they most certainly don't do any "stealing credit card" stuff.
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I think it may not work. It has Adreno 200 and MSM8960 libs in it, a GPU and CPU that have nothing to do with the N4's APQ8064 and Adreno 320. You can still try, because they most certainly don't do any "stealing credit card" stuff.
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I did some more digging and found that the guy responsible for the patch has a profile on xda, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3873953 and he seems pretty legit. The patch is also linked in the Purified Kernel thread page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2368548 as a recommended work-around for the JSS/JWR graphical glitching. I installed v1.0 on my Nexus 4, which did nothing to help, then I installed v1.2 (linked in OP), and I now have Paranoid Android 3.99.1-RC running (so far) flawlessly on Matr1x v11. Pretty happy about that .
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I did some more digging and found that the guy responsible for the patch has a profile on xda, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3873953 and he seems pretty legit. The patch is also linked in the Purified Kernel thread page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2368548 as a recommended work-around for the JSS/JWR graphical glitching. I installed v1.0 on my Nexus 4, which did nothing to help, then I installed v1.2 (linked in OP), and I now have Paranoid Android 3.99.1-RC running (so far) flawlessly on Matr1x v11. Pretty happy about that .
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Nice! Good to know.
Yo i search the best rom and kernel for the G model
Not really sure man. I think its up to you to test them out and see which one gives you the best battery performance for your needs.
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Yo i search the best rom and kernel for the G model
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Just use Lineage with a totally black Substratum theme and Llama Sweet EAS kernel
Thanks for your advice, I had no big needs I just watch videos on Netflix ^^
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Just use Lineage with a totally black Substratum theme and Llama Sweet EAS kernel
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Can you confirm that this is working? I've been wanting to use a black substratum theme for ages, but until now I didn't dare to, since substratum doesn't officially support LineageOS as far as I know. On top of that I read a couple of comments of people having issues
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Can you confirm that this is working? I've been wanting to use a black substratum theme for ages, but until now I didn't dare to, since substratum doesn't officially support LineageOS as far as I know. On top of that I read a couple of comments of people having issues
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You're right, but I meant LineageOS as in an LOS-based ROM more than LOS itself. Most custom ROMs run better than LOS and have a bunch of features.
You may know that Substratum uses "OMS" to do the overlay stuff, so if you want a ROM with full substratum compatibility, it's as easy as finding one with the necessary commits, like NucleaROM or RR (I prefer NucleaROM over all of the other LOS-based ROMs to be honest). Just look at the description of the ROM for 'oms support'. Or you can try, I'm sure that I used Substratum on LineageOS stock for some time and I was getting 7 hrs SOT with heavy usage
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You're right, but I meant LineageOS as in an LOS-based ROM more than LOS itself. Most custom ROMs run better than LOS and have a bunch of features.
You may know that Substratum uses "OMS" to do the overlay stuff, so if you want a ROM with full substratum compatibility, it's as easy as finding one with the necessary commits, like NucleaROM or RR (I prefer NucleaROM over all of the other LOS-based ROMs to be honest). Just look at the description of the ROM for 'oms support'. Or you can try, I'm sure that I used Substratum on LineageOS stock for some time and I was getting 7 hrs SOT with heavy usage
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Alright, so thats how it is. But you say you had it running on LOS? Did you experience issues, or why don't you have it running anymore? To be honest I would currently prefer not flashing a new rom, since I'm kinda dependent on my phone working right now and at the moment, it works mostly fine would still love to use a totally black substratum theme though
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Alright, so thats how it is. But you say you had it running on LOS? Did you experience issues, or why don't you have it running anymore? To be honest I would currently prefer not flashing a new rom, since I'm kinda dependent on my phone working right now and at the moment, it works mostly fine would still love to use a totally black substratum theme though
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You have LOS on your phone though, right? If so, why don't you try? It's not like you have to flash anything so you can't brick your phone...
I think I used it on LOS yeah. But I prefer stock over custom ROMs by far. And now that the MiFavor 5 ROM is out (with the Android 7 QS tiles) I don't have any reason to use the buggy and laggy custom ROMs
I swear LOS was the worst of them all when I used it back in Feb/March. The worst thing was that a bunch of apps simply didn't feel like working...
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You have LOS on your phone though, right? If so, why don't you try? It's not like you have to flash anything so you can't brick your phone...
I think I used it on LOS yeah. But I prefer stock over custom ROMs by far. And now that the MiFavor 5 ROM is out (with the Android 7 QS tiles) I don't have any reason to use the buggy and laggy custom ROMs
I swear LOS was the worst of them all when I used it back in Feb/March. The worst thing was that a bunch of apps simply didn't feel like working...
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Yes I do. Personally I don't feel like it's that bad so you think it's save to try it out?
Hmm so you feel like stock is better right now? I switched to LOS because I was kinda mad at the stock rom (at least the German one) since updates weren't coming at promised times and when they did come they were full of bugs like apps not working and more.... Which was mostly fixed afterwards, but I wasn't that happy with the situation. I also didn't like the look and feel, which now wouldn't be as much of a problem, since I'm using Nova + KLWP to change most of the visuals. Is the "Tiles-App" with more QS tiles working with stock now? It didn't when I went to LOS. How's battery life? What are your main reason to go back to stock?
And least but not last.... How would I get back to stock? Just flashing a zip from the ZTE website?
And another weird thing which didn't bother me too much until now: I bought my phone in Germany so I had the G model. Ever since going to LineageOS, which included unlocking the boot loader etc. My phone tells me /shows up as the U model.... Is that bad in any way? Other than that it seems to work alright though
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Yes I do. Personally I don't feel like it's that bad so you think it's save to try it out?
Hmm so you feel like stock is better right now? I switched to LOS because I was kinda mad at the stock rom (at least the German one) since updates weren't coming at promised times and when they did come they were full of bugs like apps not working and more.... Which was mostly fixed afterwards, but I wasn't that happy with the situation. I also didn't like the look and feel, which now wouldn't be as much of a problem, since I'm using Nova + KLWP to change most of the visuals. Is the "Tiles-App" with more QS tiles working with stock now? It didn't when I went to LOS. How's battery life? What are your main reason to go back to stock?
And least but not last.... How would I get back to stock? Just flashing a zip from the ZTE website?
And another weird thing which didn't bother me too much until now: I bought my phone in Germany so I had the G model. Ever since going to LineageOS, which included unlocking the boot loader etc. My phone tells me /shows up as the U model.... Is that bad in any way? Other than that it seems to work alright though
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-I like stock because it runs better, and even though I thought I would hate ZTE's UI, I actually like it after using it for a long time. And the 5.0 UI is awesome, nuff said. They use blur on the volume pop-up and when you pull down the status bar.
MiFavor 5.0 is not official, it's just the A2017 ROM that's been ported by the Russians. You need to install a special A2017 bootstack (it seemed really dangerous but it's not that bad really) and then the system zip, which formats /system anyways. After that you have to format /data (which will format the internal storage too, just saying) because of the encryption, and it should boot just fine.
I have an A2017G too and flipped out when they f00ked up with B02 with Google Play Store, then B03 with exfat, and went to LOS. Then i tried to go back and DFU-bricked my phone. After I fixed it I preferred to stay stock, and in B04 they fixed everything there was to fix. Tried NucleaROM, best so far but it still has that WIP feel...
Anyways, make a backup of your current system on an SD card if you want to go 5.0.
The A2017U thing is normal, it's because the universal bootloader is actually the U bootloader without the NON-HLOS.bin which you flash later via the A2017G-MODEM.zip (which is ancient lol)
Thank you again for your aid! I have another question....
I downloaded substratum now and installed some themes but somehow I can't get them to work...
For example "Flux" tells me everything went good and I need to restart, but nothing changes after the reboot...
Swift Black has some errors compiling :/
Any ideas?
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Thank you again for your aid! I have another question....
I downloaded substratum now and installed some themes but somehow I can't get them to work...
For example "Flux" tells me everything went good and I need to restart, but nothing changes after the reboot...
Swift Black has some errors compiling :/
Any ideas?
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well, it's not working with LOS then. I guess I used it on RR
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well, it's not working with LOS then. I guess I used it on RR
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Alright thank you! How did RR compare to LOS?
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Alright thank you! How did RR compare to LOS?
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Okay but laggy. again, I prefer NucleaROM, you should check that one if you'll change ROMs
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Okay but laggy. again, I prefer NucleaROM, you should check that one if you'll change ROMs
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I will thank you! You are awesome! So I can just flash that rom over LineageOS? Or do I have to wipe my phone first?
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I will thank you! You are awesome! So I can just flash that rom over LineageOS? Or do I have to wipe my phone first?
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The best would be wiping everything, but you can try wiping system only. after that if the phone doesn't work well just wipe data
It seems to be that all the ROMs have bugs or are laggy. Stock is best right now if my research is correct.
Stock...
Edit* with a few things added and removed...
So I am running Nuclear Ron now, everything went smoothly and I've got Magisk installed correctly for root access. So far when I'm using the rom I love everything and substratum works well as well.....
But.... Whenever I turn of the screen it almost immediately reboots... when using my phone I don't get any random reboots, but when the screen is off it restarts every time. This is a real bummer and I keep my phone off most of the time right now, to prevent the reboots every minute :/
Any ideas what the reason for this issue could be? Would love to stay with this rom, but only if I can get this fixed!
I Uninstalled substratum and the substratum themes by the way, but that didn't help either...
Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!!
I get phenomenal battery life and speed on NucleaROM. Stability is so-so, however.
Hello, I'm a new user this device, my previous smartphone was S8 (Exynos) but i swapped on OP5 8/128 gb
Now i have a question, which rom + kernel make better performance combo ?
I am running PureFusion with Lightning Kernel V15 and my phone performs like a beast
dzesiu2002 said:
Hello, I'm a new user this device, my previous smartphone was S8 (Exynos) but i swapped on OP5 8/128 gb
Now i have a question, which rom + kernel make better performance combo ?
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+1 for Pure Fusion, I get up to 10 and a half hours screen on time with better performance than I get on OOS, noticeable by eye.
Ultimately, you may find a better combination out there, but the baseline for me is Fusion, it just works as it should, stamina and power.
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I am running PureFusion with Lightning Kernel V15 and my phone performs like a beast
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Thanks for answer, i will try your combo for sure
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+1 for Pure Fusion, I get up to 10 and a half hours screen on time with better performance than I get on OOS, noticeable by eye.
Ultimately, you may find a better combination out there, but the baseline for me is Fusion, it just works as it should, stamina and power.
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Thanks for answer, which kernel do you use with Pure Fusion ?
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Thanks for answer, i will try your combo for sure
Thanks for answer, which kernel do you use with Pure Fusion ?
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the one that comes with it mate, lightening, I tried blue spark which some people swear by but I didn't like it compared to lightening.
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the one that comes with it mate, lightening, I tried blue spark which some people swear by but I didn't like it compared to lightening.
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what governer and governer settings do you use with it?
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what governer and governer settings do you use with it?
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I haven't changed anything. So as it comes.
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the one that comes with it mate, lightening, I tried blue spark which some people swear by but I didn't like it compared to lightening.
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Thanks again, do you use latest version of rom ? Kernel include in rom is latest too ?
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Thanks again, do you use latest version of rom ? Kernel include in rom is latest too ?
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Go for the beta-build. Really stable and awesome battery-life. That doesn´t include the latest version of Lightning kernel but you can flash that easy in your recovery.
ROM: https://download.purefusionos.com/r...n_cheeseburger-7.1.2-20171001_140503-BETA.zip
Latest Lightning Kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=27265
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Go for the beta-build. Really stable and awesome battery-life. That doesn´t include the latest version of Lightning kernel but you can flash that easy in your recovery.
ROM: https://download.purefusionos.com/r...n_cheeseburger-7.1.2-20171001_140503-BETA.zip
Latest Lightning Kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=27265
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Ok, what about performance ? Please tell me which gapps version to use and how perform installation.
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Ok, what about performance ? Please tell me which gapps version to use and how perform installation.
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Super smooth, absolutely as fast as Oxygen OS. I always use "GApps" and here U should choose "ARM64" and "7.1". I recommend you to use either "Nano" or "Pico", but you could choose whatever you want!
1. Flash the ROM in TWRP
2. Flash GApps
3. Flash Magisk/Super SU (If U want to be rooted)
4. Flash "no_verity_op5.zip" (If your phone are dectrypted, otherwise skip this one)
GApps: http://opengapps.org/
Magisk (Will not break SafetyNet): https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4302781&d=1508010356
Super SU (Will break SafetyNet): https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/supersu/download/zip/SuperSU-v2.82-201705271822.zip
No_verity = https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfpoa2x8g1x98k3/no_verity_op5.zip?dl=0
Gustav Karlsson said:
Super smooth, absolutely as fast as Oxygen OS. I always use "GApps" and here U should choose "ARM64" and "7.1". I recommend you to use either "Nano" or "Pico", but you could choose whatever you want!
1. Flash the ROM in TWRP
2. Flash GApps
3. Flash Magisk/Super SU (If U want to be rooted)
4. Flash "no_verity_op5.zip" (If your phone are dectrypted, otherwise skip this one)
GApps: http://opengapps.org/
Magisk (Will not break SafetyNet): https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4302781&d=1508010356
Super SU (Will break SafetyNet): https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/supersu/download/zip/SuperSU-v2.82-201705271822.zip
No_verity = https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfpoa2x8g1x98k3/no_verity_op5.zip?dl=0
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Thanks a lot mate Can u tell me more about what decrypted and uncrypted is ? and how check which status my device have ?
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Thanks again, do you use latest version of Rom ? Kernel include in rom is latest too ?
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Yea mate it's always the latest version of the Rom, I always clean flash too.
I've tried all the Rom's on XDA for the Oneplus, No limits for me is the best OOS Rom (personal choice) but overall and for the things I need from it, plus Displaylink technology works indefinitely on it, on OOS Rom's it cuts out after around 9 minutes which is a deal breaker for me.
10 hours SOT is superb.
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Yea mate it's always the latest version of the Rom, I always clean flash too.
I've tried all the Rom's on XDA for the Oneplus, No limits for me is the best OOS Rom (personal choice) but overall and for the things I need from it, plus Displaylink technology works indefinitely on it, on OOS Rom's it cuts out after around 9 minutes which is a deal breaker for me.
10 hours SOT is superb.
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Thanks, well if i flash latest version of rom then i dont need download manually latest kernel because last version of rom have in latest version kernel ? Can i please link to version which you use ? I need install gapps, if yes which one ? And magisk is for root ? Big please for flash instruction step by step.
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Thanks a lot mate Can u tell me more about what decrypted and uncrypted is ? and how check which status my device have ?
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Basicly:
Encrypted = Makes it more difficult for people who are not authorized to access information stored on the phone. You are thus safer when the phone are encrypted.
Decrypted = Opposite to Encrypted. The benefit with this one compared to Encrypted is a better performance.
You can check what U use by going to the settings menu, then head over to "Security & fingerprint", scroll down to the bottom and done.
PS: I am Decrypted!
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Basicly:
Encrypted = Makes it more difficult for people who are not authorized to access information stored on the phone. You are thus safer when the phone are encrypted.
Decrypted = Opposite to Encrypted. The benefit with this one compared to Encrypted is a better performance.
You can check what U use by going to the settings menu, then head over to "Security & fingerprint", scroll down to the bottom and done.
PS: I am Decrypted!
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Thanks, a lot Well decrypted mean better performance ? My device is encrypted how to decrypt ?
before anyone drops any more advice here to this user, please be aware that narrating the entire learning process for flashing makes you partially responsible for what happens to this users phone.
@dzesiu2002 i strongly advise you to do research on all of these topics before going any further. you could end up wasting a lot of your time or worse: breaking your phone.
research research research. for everyone's sake. i'm not trying to be mean. this is the best advice anyone can give you.
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before anyone drops any more advice here to this user, please be aware that narrating the entire learning process for flashing makes you partially responsible for what happens to this users phone.
@dzesiu2002 i strongly advise you to do research on all of these topics before going any further. you could end up wasting a lot of your time or worse: breaking your phone.
research research research. for everyone's sake. i'm not trying to be mean. this is the best advice anyone can give you.
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This. Also, not trying to be rude and it's awesome that everyone is so willing to help, but I don't think spoonfeeding is the best option. OP has tons of questions (many that are simple and can easily be answered with self-research).
As the user I quoted mentioned, you should visit other threads that have instructions and information on flashing, encrypt vs. decrypt and so on!
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before anyone drops any more advice here to this user, please be aware that narrating the entire learning process for flashing makes you partially responsible for what happens to this users phone.
@dzesiu2002 i strongly advise you to do research on all of these topics before going any further. you could end up wasting a lot of your time or worse: breaking your phone.
research research research. for everyone's sake. i'm not trying to be mean. this is the best advice anyone can give you.
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Man, i have much phones all of them always have custom rom and kernel, so i never brick the device... All rom, kernel have in own thread installation process and i going with it, newbie for sure will brick the device, if i flashed much devices without a break them, then really you still think im newbie ? Cmon in my thread in #1 post, i dont write " its my first time with flashing the device, am noob or something like that " Newbies having 100% understandable tutorial about unlocking BL, install TWRP or Root the device, but they still ask for help, did you see anywhere in OP5 section about i needed help with that ? First of all, im not stupid and know any flash is risk, but if device bricked then this is not the fault of the author of the topic, only it is the fault of the user who carried out the installation wrongly. This post is for you and means you have to post something like this in threads people who really are green and dont know anything about flashing.
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Man, i have much phones all of them always have custom rom and kernel, so i never brick the device... All rom, kernel have in own thread installation process and i going with it, newbie for sure will brick the device, if i flashed much devices without a break them, then really you still think im newbie ? Cmon in my thread in #1 post, i dont write " its my first time with flashing the device, am noob or something like that " Newbies having 100% understandable tutorial about unlocking BL, install TWRP or Root the device, but they still ask for help, did you see anywhere in OP5 section about i needed help with that ? First of all, im not stupid and know any flash is risk, but if device bricked then this is not the fault of the author of the topic, only it is the fault of the user who carried out the installation wrongly. This post is for you and means you have to post something like this in threads people who really are green and dont know anything about flashing.
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i am NOT calling you stupid. i AM definitely calling you a newbie.
the questions you have been asking are very rudimentary when it comes to flashing ROMs. regardless of your previous experience, it is still best that you do a lot more reading. this obviously isn't what you want to hear, but it is as true as truth can be. if you don't know what encryption is, then you shouldn't be trying to work around it. you should be figuring out what encryption is in the first place.
I just ordered a 5T and wonder, how compatible it is with the 5.
Unlike last years 3T compared to 3, this time there is no hardware changed. AFAIK the display has a different resolution - being 18:9 instead of 16:9 and the fingerprint reader MIGHT be different.
But all the internals are the same. So can I just install my favorite 5 ROM onto my 5T? Or - like last year - will I have to wait a while until unified ROMs become custom?
AFAIK the 2nd camera is different in the OP5T so I think devs will wait to see what's what before confirming if they can be unified.
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AFAIK the 2nd camera is different in the OP5T so I think devs will wait to see what's what before confirming if they can be unified.
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Yeah, I forgot about that one. Camera changed quiet a bit. Still, if one can live with crappy/no camera, question still stands: Does a 5 ROM run on 5t? Looking at LineageOS 15 here.
The display has the same resolution, it just a different aspect ration.
Rhoban said:
The display has the same resolution, it just a different aspect ration.
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According to gsmarena - who I trust quiet a bit in tech specs - the 5T got 1080x2160 where the 5 got 1080x1920
This is in sync with other sites I read about the 5T. This could be the biggest issue in using a standard 5 ROM.
You can always just do a nandroid backup in twrp and flash some ROM. My bet is in it not working tho.
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You can always just do a nandroid backup in twrp and flash some ROM. My bet is in it not working tho.
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IF twrp can handle the display, that is exactly what I am going to test. Also "fastboot boot"ing twrp will answer already how the bigger display might be handled.
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IF twrp can handle the display, that is exactly what I am going to test. Also "fastboot boot"ing twrp will answer already how the bigger display might be handled.
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Good luck
mad-murdock said:
IF twrp can handle the display, that is exactly what I am going to test. Also "fastboot boot"ing twrp will answer already how the bigger display might be handled.
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Could you provide us with an update after you test it?
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Could you provide us with an update after you test it?
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I can leave my findings in this thread if you like, sure.
About using 5 Roms on 5T:
It does not work. Kernel does not boot in the first place. If you replace the kernel with 5T kernel, like done for TWRP, TWRP works, full display is used - no borders.
Custom ROM cannot be installed because of Firmware check. I modified latest Lineage15 and removed the check - even being sure it probably wont boot. And it didn't. Kernel wont boot. Kernel is not even detected as a kernel by fastboot. I did not dare to try the 5T OOS/TWRP kernel on that installed Lineage15 ROM.
I did dare to try the bluespark kernel for 5T OOS on LineageOS tough. A long shot that should not work. And it did not work.
After OEM Unlocking the phone, stock ROM wont boot anymore. It's the old dm-verity issue I know from oneplus 3. So I flashed jcadduono's no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0.zip from https://build.nethunter.com/android-tools/no-verity-opt-encrypt/
Now I got an unlocked 5T with stock Oxygen, twrp and magisk. Waiting patiently for ROMs - especially Lineage - to catch up and work on 5T.
If any dev needs a test slave, I am available.
Thanks for testing, just got my op5t and was looking for lineage to replace the stock rom.
No the Oneplus 5T have a resolution of 2.160 x 1.080.
I unpacked OP5T system folder ans kernel and it's quite similar to the one of OP5. It should be easy to get it ported with minimal modifications to the code (maybe not a single file will need to be edited and we just need to ensure we don't use files from OP5T that relate to parts of the hardware that are different).
I tried to boot the system.new.dat of OP5T (removing some OP5T files and adding some OP5 files) but it was the first time I tried to create a room with this system.new.dat format so it didn't even got flashed.
When I have time I will try to create a port ROM with the old style (meta-inf, system folder, radio files and boot.img only), but as I said it doesn't seem complicated to get it ported so probably someone will have done it before I try again
Isn't the main camera the same on the 5T? The second one had been changed but the 1st afaik is the same. So the low light certainly wouldn't work.
Soc is the same, not sure about other components, but definitely very similar, I think some cross platform ROMs may work but they would need to some changes made.
Not 100% what's been altered tbh, but from what I can tell they have used quite a bit from the 5 for the 5T.
Time will tell I suppose.
Would project treble (if we ever get it) help in this instance ?
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Isn't the main camera the same on the 5T? The second one had been changed but the 1st afaik is the same. So the low light certainly wouldn't work.
Soc is the same, not sure about other components, but definitely very similar, I think some cross platform ROMs may work but they would need to some changes made.
Not 100% what's been altered tbh, but from what I can tell they have used quite a bit from the 5 for the 5T.
Time will tell I suppose.
Would project treble (if we ever get it) help in this instance ?
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If I'm not wrong only the second camera, fingerprint and display are different.
And yes the ROMs are almost identical. Even the kernel doesn't have much differences
titooo7 said:
If I'm not wrong only the second camera, fingerprint and display are different.
And yes the ROMs are almost identical. Even the kernel doesn't have much differences
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Then there is potential
Dear members,
My Nexus 6 is in desperate need of some new life. It's been terribly laggy for the last year, and I can't buy a new phone right now.
I have very little experience with rooting, recoveries, kernels and other jargon words, and I really need your help!
What's the best combination of Kernel and OS at the moment? I was thinking about LineageOS 16 stock Kernel, but would like to be sure. Do I need root access?
Also, can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial to install what I need that can be done on Mac? I know you guys can probably get things done based on your experience and with little information, but I need a step-by-step or I will brick my phone.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Thank you!
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Dear members,
My Nexus 6 is in desperate need of some new life. It's been terribly laggy for the last year, and I can't buy a new phone right now.
I have very little experience with rooting, recoveries, kernels and other jargon words, and I really need your help!
What's the best combination of Kernel and OS at the moment? I was thinking about LineageOS 16 stock Kernel, but would like to be sure. Do I need root access?
Also, can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial to install what I need that can be done on Mac? I know you guys can probably get things done based on your experience and with little information, but I need a step-by-step or I will brick my phone.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Thank you!
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Actually ROMs and kernels aren't a mix and match. Use the kernel coming with the ROM or be prepared for funny things to happen.
Lineage has a pretty straightforward step by step guide for installation: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/shamu/install
You don't need root - if you want it you can flash https://mirrorbits.lineageos.org/su/20190709/addonsu-16.0-arm-signed.zip and enable it in the settings.
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Actually ROMs and kernels aren't a mix and match. Use the kernel coming with the ROM or be prepared for funny things to happen.
Lineage has a pretty straightforward step by step guide for installation: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/shamu/install
You don't need root - if you want it you can flash https://mirrorbits.lineageos.org/su/20190709/addonsu-16.0-arm-signed.zip and enable it in the settings.
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Thank you! Do you think that just installing LineageOS will be enough to make my phone usable again?
Caio 73 said:
Thank you! Do you think that just installing LineageOS will be enough to make my phone usable again?
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Depends of your definition of usability. Of cause it's slower then newer devices as shamu was developed in 2014.
But I still use it as secondary device for browsing and watching youtube. Also I am a bit biased as I am the maintainer for shamu on LineageOS. Maybe you should ask other users in the Lineage-16.0 thread.
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Depends of your definition of usability. Of cause it's slower then newer devices as shamu was developed in 2014.
But I still use it as secondary device for browsing and watching youtube. Also I am a bit biased as I am the maintainer for shamu on LineageOS. Maybe you should ask other users in the Lineage-16.0 thread.
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That's so cool that you kept working on the Nexus 6! Thank you for that and for replying.
I have been using my phone for more than a year with terrible lag. Really awful. So my bar for usable is pretty low. I am sure your build is great. I will give it a try.
Thank you
Caio 73 said:
That's so cool that you kept working on the Nexus 6! Thank you for that and for replying.
I have been using my phone for more than a year with terrible lag. Really awful. So my bar for usable is pretty low. I am sure your build is great. I will give it a try.
Thank you
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My combination Is LineageOS with Magisk and NFS Injector module, i think it's your best bet to eliminate lags without tinkering too much, everything it's literally "install and forget"
Sent from my Motorola Nexus 6 using XDA Labs
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My combination Is LineageOS with Magisk and NFS Injector module, i think it's your best bet to eliminate lags without tinkering too much, everything it's literally "install and forget"
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Hi, thanks for joining the thread. I have no idea what a module is. Would you mind explaining and showing me where I can a tutorial to get it installed?
I use LOS16 and Franco Kernel with ondemand CPU module and this is really great. Almost no lags, but sometimes, once a week it will freeze and reboot itself, dont know why.
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Hi, thanks for joining the thread. I have no idea what a module is. Would you mind explaining and showing me where I can a tutorial to get it installed?
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If you search on Google about Magisk, you can directly go where you can download the zip and you can install it immediately after LineageOS and Google Apps. Then, once you booted the device, from inside the Magisk app, you can install from its internal repository the modules you want to use, every one of them does something you can find useful I think. In the end, I recommend you NFS Injector module to have your device good as a new one in terms of performance. I hope to have everything cleared for you
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Hi guys,
I came back here to give some feedback on what I have done.
I followed the instructions on the Lineage wiki link and installed Lineage OS 16. I kept it as simple as possible and didn't do anything besides that. No module, no magisk, no root, no TWRP. Just Lineage. It's not that I didn't want to go further, but I don't know enough about android to do it. Even just installing Lineage was kind of a challenge. It was not a smooth process, but I managed to do it.
In any case, it fews like an entirely new phone now. Lag has been reduced to almost none. It was almost unusable before and know it's actually enjoyable to use. Thank you very much for your help and to everyone that kept support for Shamu alive.
I did run into a few problems so far, but nothing really significant. The flashlight and camera sometimes won't work and need a reboot to come back (thankfully boot time is really quick now). The Netflix app also won't work anymore, but that's expected with no magisk, right?
If I wanted to go back and install magisk and a few modules, can I do that now without having to wipe the phone again? Or would I have to redo the whole process?
Thank you!!
Caio 73 said:
If I wanted to go back and install magisk and a few modules, can I do that now without having to wipe the phone again? Or would I have to redo the whole process?
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No need to Wipe.
Just reboot to recovery and flash magisk installer ZIP.
Now reboot to system, and you see new Magisk App installed.
Just open it and install any of the Modules you want, just make sure to reboot after every Install/Update/Uninstall of any Module.
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No need to Wipe.
Just reboot to recovery and flash magisk installer ZIP.
Now reboot to system, and you see new Magisk App installed.
Just open it and install any of the Modules you want, just make sure to reboot after every Install/Update/Uninstall of any Module.
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Thank you for answering. Do you mind telling me what a module is / what is it for?
Also, this is day 4 since I have installed lineage and I have already been prompted two updates. Is that normal?
I have just experienced my first crash / weird behavior today. I hope it doesn't deteriorate too much over time.
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Caio 73 said:
Thank you for answering. Do you mind telling me what a module is / what is it for?
Also, this is day 4 since I have installed lineage and I have already been prompted two updates. Is that normal?
I have just experienced my first crash / weird behavior today. I hope it doesn't deteriorate too much over time.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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If you are using your Nexus 6 as a Daily Driver like Me, I would recommend you to install LineageOS 15.1 (Android 8.1) which is much more stable and responsive than LineageOS 16 (Android 9.0).
About updates it is fine, because LineageOS 16 is in active development and updates are released regularly, as compared to LineageOS 15.1 which is almost finalized and its updates are released every weeks/months.
About Module:
A module is a mod or a customization for your device which can be installed systemlessly(without modifying your android system files) using Magisk.
For Example: If you want to enhance your audio of the headphone you can install Viper4Android.
ovais_43 said:
If you are using your Nexus 6 as a Daily Driver like Me, I would recommend you to install LineageOS 15.1 (Android 8.1) which is much more stable and responsive than LineageOS 16 (Android 9.0).
About updates it is fine, because LineageOS 16 is in active development and updates are released regularly, as compared to LineageOS 15.1 which is almost finalized and its updates are released every weeks/months.
About Module:
A module is a mod or a customization for your device which can be installed systemlessly(without modifying your android system files) using Magisk.
For Example: If you want to enhance your audio of the headphone you can install Viper4Android.
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I am using it as a daily. For the last few days it's been really good. It was stock before and pretty much unusable. Do you think it's worth redoing the process to put lineage 15.1 on? I am not that confident with these things. I am at that point where I think "I can't believe I've done it and it's working". And if I redo it and screw things up I am gonna be furious I tried to fix what was not broken.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Caio 73 said:
I am using it as a daily. For the last few days it's been really good. It was stock before and pretty much unusable. Do you think it's worth redoing the process to put lineage 15.1 on? I am not that confident with these things. I am at that point where I think "I can't believe I've done it and it's working". And if I redo it and screw things up I am gonna be furious I tried to fix what was not broken.
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I will recommend installing LineageOS 15.1
I have installed this ROM for 2 months and never had any issue, even my battery is also bad but this ROM handles it very well.
I think it will worth installing.
I am using LinagesOS 15.1 with stock gapps and without any mod or Magisk.
jacomail95 said:
My combination Is LineageOS with Magisk and NFS Injector module, i think it's your best bet to eliminate lags without tinkering too much, everything it's literally "install and forget"
Sent from my Motorola Nexus 6 using XDA Labs
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Are you also using Lineage 15.1 sir?
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I will recommend installing LineageOS 15.1
I have installed this ROM for 2 months and never had any issue, even my battery is also bad but this ROM handles it very well.
I think it will worth installing.
I am using LinagesOS 15.1 with stock gapps and without any mod or Magisk.
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Hi,
Coming back to share my experience. Lineage 16 was performing really well, but it got unstable after a few days. I was having 3-4 random reboots per day, mainly when scrolling through pages in multiple apps. The flashlight and camera also wouldn't work quite often and needed restart.
So I decided to take the advice given here and flashed lineage 15.1 (with mindthegaps, no root, no magisk). Performance isn't as good, but stability has been much better. No reboots so far. A few app crashes, but nothing major.
Once again I few like my phone has gotten new life and I will be able to squeeze a few more months out of it.
Thank you for all the replies to this thread. You guys helped a lot!
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Caio 73 said:
Are you also using Lineage 15.1 sir?
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16
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16
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Is it stable for you? When I had 16 I would have random reboots in the two digits per day.
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Is it stable for you? When I had 16 I would have random reboots in the two digits per day.
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It's solid, absolutely no issues